Margo MacDonald has suggested to Alex Salmond a new plan that might help the independence cause. In a letter sent today to the First Minister, the Lothian independent and ex-SNP MSP suggested voters turning out for the European elections in June next year should also be given a form asking if they think there should be a referendum on independence.
This would not be a referendum, she insists, but a sort of referendum on a referendum, or at least a very large polling sample. It would appeal to the Nationalist cause by raising pressure or at least keeping the pot boiling ahead of the referendum the SNP wants in autumn 2010. Margo MacDonald also suggests the survey could raise turnout at the European elections.
Don't expect this idea to go down too well with the Scotland Office, which reminded us again today that it jealously guards its role in running non-council elections. With the running of elections heavily surrounded by legislation and regulation, there are sure to be reasons why an unofficial survey will be kept outside the polling station.
An odd aspect of this is that one of the main reasons for Margo MacDonald's split from the SNP was her vehement disagreement with its strategy of having an independence referendum at all. It now seems she wants a pre-referendum too.
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Simon Pia, spokesman for Wendy Alexander, dropped by The Herald office today to serve notice that I have joined the list of those male journalists deemed to be misogynist for daring to suggest that his boss's "bring it on" handling of the independence referendum was somewhat less than politically smart.
Here was me with this this old-fashioned notion that misogyny had to do with hatred of women. Now I know better. It is any male criticism of the Labour leadership.
It is true Holyrood needs a better gender balance in its reporting, or indeed any gender balance. But would female reporters really appreciate how much Wendy Alexander's leadership is a model of clarity, vision and success, putting the SNP on the run while positioning herself perfectly to seize power when the opportunity arises?
Posted by: Grassy Knollington at 9:08pm on Tue 24 Jun 08
That Simon Pia revelation is quite magnificent.
Lay off criticising her Wendiness or you'll stand accused of being a misogynist. You couldn't make it up.
I've always been a bit wary of Margo since reading in the Sunday Herald ( just before the election in May 2007) her view that Jack McConnell would make a better First Minister than Alex Salmond.
That Simon Pia revelation is quite magnificent.
Lay off criticising her Wendiness or you'll stand accused of being a misogynist. You couldn't make it up.
I've always been a bit wary of Margo since reading in the Sunday Herald ( just before the election in May 2007) her view that Jack McConnell would make a better First Minister than Alex Salmond.
I sincerely hope Pia wouldnt be intefering in political output by journalists in Scotland? If he was out for a walk he couldve like most of us walked by the water or through a park but er no ... he walked to the Herald offices to seemingly offer friendly advice.
Hope you asked him Douglas, where is this so called bunker of Wendy's? Hope you can enlighten us next time he drops by, getting a bit boring to play hide and seek with her all the time.
That aside, here's to the Scottish independence referendum in 2010. Bring it on. Now where have i heard that before ... or did i?
I sincerely hope Pia wouldnt be intefering in political output by journalists in Scotland? If he was out for a walk he couldve like most of us walked by the water or through a park but er no ... he walked to the Herald offices to seemingly offer friendly advice.
Hope you asked him Douglas, where is this so called bunker of Wendy's? Hope you can enlighten us next time he drops by, getting a bit boring to play hide and seek with her all the time.
That aside, here's to the Scottish independence referendum in 2010. Bring it on. Now where have i heard that before ... or did i?
Below is a link to an online poll using the exact question proposed in the Scottish Government's White Paper, "Choosing Scotland's Future."
[bold]VOTE NOW[/bold]
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Please [bold]forward on this link[/bold] to anyone eligible to vote in Scotland, the aim is to have atleast 1000 votes.
Thankyou
Below is a link to an online poll using the exact question proposed in the Scottish Government's White Paper, "Choosing Scotland's Future."
VOTE NOW
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Please forward on this link to anyone eligible to vote in Scotland, the aim is to have atleast 1000 votes.
Posted by: george alexander at 10:17pm on Tue 24 Jun 08
[quote]...suggested voters turning out for the European elections in June next year should also be given a form asking if they think there should be a referendum on independence.....It would appeal to the Nationalist cause......[/quote]
No it wouldn't, it would be labeled a stunt by Labour and would be headlined as such by yourself. The SNP would be accused of hijacking the Euro elections and of confusing the electorate by asking them to fill in this form.
As for the Simon Pia revelation, it won't wash. Too many Labour press releases are dressed up by your goodself and portrayed as journalism.
I don't suppose Pia handed you the emails that were supposedly already in the public domain? Did you ask Pia where Wendy got the 'black hole' figures from that were routinely headlined in this paper?
I note that my predictions of a plethora of contrived headlines, with a Trump story thrown in, have come to pass. Two days to go, can The Herald contrive any more.........'fresh blow to LIT' or 'Labour seized on figures' still to come.
...suggested voters turning out for the European elections in June next year should also be given a form asking if they think there should be a referendum on independence.....It would appeal to the Nationalist cause......
No it wouldn't, it would be labeled a stunt by Labour and would be headlined as such by yourself. The SNP would be accused of hijacking the Euro elections and of confusing the electorate by asking them to fill in this form.
As for the Simon Pia revelation, it won't wash. Too many Labour press releases are dressed up by your goodself and portrayed as journalism.
I don't suppose Pia handed you the emails that were supposedly already in the public domain? Did you ask Pia where Wendy got the 'black hole' figures from that were routinely headlined in this paper?
I note that my predictions of a plethora of contrived headlines, with a Trump story thrown in, have come to pass. Two days to go, can The Herald contrive any more.........'fresh blow to LIT' or 'Labour seized on figures' still to come.
Dougoie, well done for telling us about Pia's latest wee ploy.
The Labour Leadership, 'the little wimmin' as I belive they called themselves during the 'leadership campaign' (Cathy, wendy, Jackie) are descending into some kind of feminist paralysis, it reminds of the last deathrows of the Socialists as the left disintegrated before our eyes in a puff of radical student politic smoke....
For Pia to claim that criticisms of Wendy has been anything other than for her utter incompetence beggars belief and dare I say it points to the final exasperation of Pia.....
Is this spokesmen numero trio?
Dougoie, well done for telling us about Pia's latest wee ploy.
The Labour Leadership, 'the little wimmin' as I belive they called themselves during the 'leadership campaign' (Cathy, wendy, Jackie) are descending into some kind of feminist paralysis, it reminds of the last deathrows of the Socialists as the left disintegrated before our eyes in a puff of radical student politic smoke....
For Pia to claim that criticisms of Wendy has been anything other than for her utter incompetence beggars belief and dare I say it points to the final exasperation of Pia.....
Interesting to see the labour party tactics ar work over the past day or two. Suddenly, all the more odious of their posters appear en masse, after a coupla weeks away. What was it - retraining camp?
Anyway, no coincidence then that as the word has come up from dahn saff in Lahndon town to their tame journos in Jockistan to up the attack on the extremely successful Scottish Government - we find at least 4 articles of pure anti-SNP propaganda in the past two days: serious criminals to escape justice, class sizes, UK jobs loss on the Clyde and the best one yet, which even out trumps Trump for banality the missing disc. Took quite a bit if creative spin to blame the SNP for that one but the media made a gallant effort.
Cue the arrival of the vitriolic defenders of the unionist faith - in no particular order - awh, Hamish Mawhatever, Exiled Aussie and PtbS. Now, I'm not for one moment suggesting that they all got the same email from Labour HQ to ready themselves for the onslaught, but it is amusing to see them buzzing about on these particular articles. Again, I'm not suggesting that, in fact, there are at most two individuals using multiple logins to create the impression of numbers, but when you examine the consistently atrocious spelling mistakes and the syntactical similarities of the above posters, it does made one wonder...
Interesting also that the articles which are of most importance to the future of the country are those from which comments are either barred or removed - the Calman article was a particular disgraceful example.
Remember, Labour lie - it's what they do best...they've had 50 years or so of practice at it...trouble is the lies are becoming repetitive and people are begining to see through them.
Interesting to see the labour party tactics ar work over the past day or two. Suddenly, all the more odious of their posters appear en masse, after a coupla weeks away. What was it - retraining camp?
Anyway, no coincidence then that as the word has come up from dahn saff in Lahndon town to their tame journos in Jockistan to up the attack on the extremely successful Scottish Government - we find at least 4 articles of pure anti-SNP propaganda in the past two days: serious criminals to escape justice, class sizes, UK jobs loss on the Clyde and the best one yet, which even out trumps Trump for banality the missing disc. Took quite a bit if creative spin to blame the SNP for that one but the media made a gallant effort.
Cue the arrival of the vitriolic defenders of the unionist faith - in no particular order - awh, Hamish Mawhatever, Exiled Aussie and PtbS. Now, I'm not for one moment suggesting that they all got the same email from Labour HQ to ready themselves for the onslaught, but it is amusing to see them buzzing about on these particular articles. Again, I'm not suggesting that, in fact, there are at most two individuals using multiple logins to create the impression of numbers, but when you examine the consistently atrocious spelling mistakes and the syntactical similarities of the above posters, it does made one wonder...
Interesting also that the articles which are of most importance to the future of the country are those from which comments are either barred or removed - the Calman article was a particular disgraceful example.
Remember, Labour lie - it's what they do best...they've had 50 years or so of practice at it...trouble is the lies are becoming repetitive and people are begining to see through them.
george alexander at 10:17pm today
Agreed George, the SNp should be diverted from what they promised at the Holyrood Election.
If the SNP are successful at the european elections then by all means take it as an indication of support for independence.
Otherwise, lets have the full discussion over the next two years and await that special day in 2010
george alexander at 10:17pm today
Agreed George, the SNp should be diverted from what they promised at the Holyrood Election.
If the SNP are successful at the european elections then by all means take it as an indication of support for independence.
Otherwise, lets have the full discussion over the next two years and await that special day in 2010
[bold]Is Douglas beginning to see the light?[/bold]
We have on his blog this article about Simon Pia trying to influence all these investigative journalists at the Herald, maybe stopping them winning their Pulitzer Prize. Are they close to the truth about dodgy donations, do they know where the emails are, how many people wrote to Labour MSPs about conditions a Vale of Leven Hospital when Labour were in power?
Then under Comment, which we are not allowed to comment on, eh!!! we find an article from Douglas, [bold]Browns moral compass spins unpredictably[/bold]. Does Douglas think he will get away with an article which is not very flattering to the morally bankrupt Brown.
Another visit from Pia coming up Douglas, along the lines of "keep this up and the MBE is right out of the window"
Is Douglas beginning to see the light?
We have on his blog this article about Simon Pia trying to influence all these investigative journalists at the Herald, maybe stopping them winning their Pulitzer Prize. Are they close to the truth about dodgy donations, do they know where the emails are, how many people wrote to Labour MSPs about conditions a Vale of Leven Hospital when Labour were in power?
Then under Comment, which we are not allowed to comment on, eh!!! we find an article from Douglas, Browns moral compass spins unpredictably. Does Douglas think he will get away with an article which is not very flattering to the morally bankrupt Brown.
Another visit from Pia coming up Douglas, along the lines of "keep this up and the MBE is right out of the window"
Just read your excellent article on Jack McConnell's dilemna...again no comments allowed. Why is that?
What do you reckon then? Now that Simon's been over to give you the latest articles, did he give any reason for the bridgetly-challenged one hanging on like grim death to his seat in the labour lands of lanarkshire? It can't be because of fear the SNP might win, wee Jokie himself wants some African sun to ease his aching bones, having suffered so much backstabbing from his pals, so what's the reason for the delay? Don't tell me they can't afford the deposit! After all, wee Wendy's got plenty salted away...
Just read your excellent article on Jack McConnell's dilemna...again no comments allowed. Why is that?
What do you reckon then? Now that Simon's been over to give you the latest articles, did he give any reason for the bridgetly-challenged one hanging on like grim death to his seat in the labour lands of lanarkshire? It can't be because of fear the SNP might win, wee Jokie himself wants some African sun to ease his aching bones, having suffered so much backstabbing from his pals, so what's the reason for the delay? Don't tell me they can't afford the deposit! After all, wee Wendy's got plenty salted away...
Dougie i dont think that wendys "bring it on" was very clever either does that make me a female misogynist and if I am does that mean i hate myself????
I also dislike simon pia does that make me a pianist?
Dougie i dont think that wendys "bring it on" was very clever either does that make me a female misogynist and if I am does that mean i hate myself????
I also dislike simon pia does that make me a pianist?
Rather surprising for you to admit Mr Pia drops by your office Douglas. Somehow I have a feeling a member of the SNP noticed him sneaking in your door and would have blown his cover if you hadn't done.
Mind you it took courage to write it on here so well done. Think your journalist of the year award will have to wait now though but we can't win 'em all can we Douglas.
Rather surprising for you to admit Mr Pia drops by your office Douglas. Somehow I have a feeling a member of the SNP noticed him sneaking in your door and would have blown his cover if you hadn't done.
Mind you it took courage to write it on here so well done. Think your journalist of the year award will have to wait now though but we can't win 'em all can we Douglas.
Bluidy ell Duggie, just read your [bold]Brown’s moral compass spins unpredictably[/bold] piece in the comments section. What happened to you???? Found some cojones??? Now, just how liberating was it to write an article like that, eh? I'm stunned man, absolutely stunned! Congratulations!
Bluidy ell Duggie, just read your Brown’s moral compass spins unpredictably piece in the comments section. What happened to you???? Found some cojones??? Now, just how liberating was it to write an article like that, eh? I'm stunned man, absolutely stunned! Congratulations!
Does anyone remember that potentially big story that Robbie Dinwoodie was threatening to release onto the main article about Simon Pia and Arthur Midwinter releasing fakey statistics......
Are these the tel tale signs of Simon Pia loosing what little grip he had, no-one even hears of Wendy these days....
Labour are crashing out of the headlines faster than Brown's poll ratings.....
Dougie, I think it's time for the 'leadership' article on Wendy, who will succeed her, who are the runners and riders for the top job in the Scottish Branch......
Does anyone remember that potentially big story that Robbie Dinwoodie was threatening to release onto the main article about Simon Pia and Arthur Midwinter releasing fakey statistics......
Are these the tel tale signs of Simon Pia loosing what little grip he had, no-one even hears of Wendy these days....
Labour are crashing out of the headlines faster than Brown's poll ratings.....
Dougie, I think it's time for the 'leadership' article on Wendy, who will succeed her, who are the runners and riders for the top job in the Scottish Branch......
i heard the only newspaper that wendy alexander can still get a picture in is the greenock telegraph and only then because duncan mcneil is known to the editor.
i heard the only newspaper that wendy alexander can still get a picture in is the greenock telegraph and only then because duncan mcneil is known to the editor.
[quote][bold]Karin[/bold] wrote:
i heard the only newspaper that wendy alexander can still get a picture in is the greenock telegraph and only then because duncan mcneil is known to the editor.[/quote] So you don't read Horse & Hound then?
Karin wrote:
i heard the only newspaper that wendy alexander can still get a picture in is the greenock telegraph and only then because duncan mcneil is known to the editor.
[quote][bold]Karin[/bold] wrote:
i heard the only newspaper that wendy alexander can still get a picture in is the greenock telegraph and only then because duncan mcneil is known to the editor.[/quote] So you don't read Horse & Hound then?
Karin wrote:
i heard the only newspaper that wendy alexander can still get a picture in is the greenock telegraph and only then because duncan mcneil is known to the editor.
[quote][bold]WJ[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Karin[/bold] wrote: i heard the only newspaper that wendy alexander can still get a picture in is the greenock telegraph and only then because duncan mcneil is known to the editor.[/quote] So you don't read Horse & Hound then?[/quote] dont tell me she is in that as well. Whit next womans own?
WJ wrote:
Karin wrote: i heard the only newspaper that wendy alexander can still get a picture in is the greenock telegraph and only then because duncan mcneil is known to the editor.
So you don't read Horse & Hound then?
dont tell me she is in that as well. Whit next womans own?
Here douglas who else is on the misogynists list?
Tell you what douglas lets set up a subscription service to it. You will be able to retire on the proceeds. Not that i want you to retire douglas
(looks upword with innocent expression)
Here douglas who else is on the misogynists list?
Tell you what douglas lets set up a subscription service to it. You will be able to retire on the proceeds. Not that i want you to retire douglas
(looks upword with innocent expression)
Welcome aboard Douglas - even if it is only onto the liferaft trailing behind the SNP speedboat.
Good to see you've taken the tinfoil off your head and realised that New Labour are in a real jam - rudderless and compass-less - floating about - does that make them "floaters"???
Slainte Mhor
Welcome aboard Douglas - even if it is only onto the liferaft trailing behind the SNP speedboat.
Good to see you've taken the tinfoil off your head and realised that New Labour are in a real jam - rudderless and compass-less - floating about - does that make them "floaters"???
Slainte Mhor
Posted by: Disgusted Dorothy at 10:12am on Wed 25 Jun 08
Did Mr Pia not have this little outburst before?
I seem to remember a wee article on him accusing several people of having a mysoginist attitude to Ms Alexander.
It's rather like playing the racist card is it not?
All you can say in your own defence is " No I'm not"
which always appears weak followed by the protestation " some of my best friends are Pakistani/ English / whatever " and in your case " women"
You could always argue " Heavens ! I even married one!"
Did Mr Pia not have this little outburst before?
I seem to remember a wee article on him accusing several people of having a mysoginist attitude to Ms Alexander.
It's rather like playing the racist card is it not?
All you can say in your own defence is " No I'm not"
which always appears weak followed by the protestation " some of my best friends are Pakistani/ English / whatever " and in your case " women"
You could always argue " Heavens ! I even married one!"
Posted by: George Laird at 5:20pm on Wed 25 Jun 08
Dear Douglas
“Margo MacDonald has suggested to Alex Salmond a new plan that might help the independence cause. In a letter sent today to the First Minister, the Lothian independent and ex-SNP MSP suggested voters turning out for the European elections in June next year should also be given a form asking if they think there should be a referendum on independence”.
That would be a dreadful mistake, referendum on a referendum, far too serious a business to play stunts with. Margo MacDonald has been involved in politics for a long time so anyone is entitled to a mistake.
I am sure that Alex Salmond will bounce that one.
As to your “war” with the Labour Party’s Holyrood leader, Wendy Alexander, is this a phoney war to deflect attention away from the decision of the Standards Committee?
Wendy Alexander, GUILTY!
“Simon Pia, spokesman for Wendy Alexander, dropped by The Herald office today to serve notice”.
Where you in or did he leave a message?
I trust you or one of the plebs showed him the door and told him to pi$$ off. I remember when I brought in my complaint about Muir Russell being corrupt and involved in criminal fraud that Barclay McBain (Herald) said my complaint was “too specific”.
Did Pia have evidence against you? If he did, why was he bothering talking to you in the first place? If he had a complaint surely he would sling it across McGhee’s desk and pour out his tale of woe?
“that I have joined the list of those male journalists deemed to be misogynist for daring to suggest that his boss's "bring it on" handling of the independence referendum was somewhat less than politically smart”.
I would find it hard to believe you are a misogynist for voicing that Alexander hasn’t got it upstairs. Wendy Alexander goes from disaster to disaster and to add to her trouble she is personally despised as a human being and as shallow as two inch of bath water.
“Here was me with this this old-fashioned notion that misogyny had to do with hatred of women”.
Did you attend the Labour Party School when notions and concepts were adjusted post 2007 defeat?
Since you have been accused of misogyny will you be publishing the “evidence” or are you judged by accusation equals guilt?
Accusation equals guilt is practiced by the University of Glasgow and since Alexander went there she probably picked it up.
“Now I know better. It is any male criticism of the Labour leadership”.
I see, your defence is unintentional wrongdoing and your blog is a plea of mitigation, kind of along the lines of section 191 (1) of the Criminal Procedures (Scotland) Act 1995. You are asking for a lighter sentence around 20% off?
“It is true Holyrood needs a better gender balance in its reporting, or indeed any gender balance”.
You should consider going a profile on Duncan “Cretin” McNeil, the man who would be sheep!
There are a lot of thick Labour people but the trouble is that women like Alexander, Curran, Bailiie and Jamieson shove themselves forward as they think they have something to say and that we should hear it.
The thick guys just are smart enough to keep walking and duck out, probably under orders from their wives.
“But would female reporters really appreciate how much Wendy Alexander's leadership is a model of clarity, vision and success, putting the SNP on the run while positioning herself perfectly to seize power when the opportunity arises?”
I doubt it; some of your female reporters are suffering from subjective opinion equals facts.
“Only a misogynist would ask that”.
Or a troublemaker, Douglas!
Finally if Pia keeps this up you should load up for some heavy retaliation and get it in first, you have the classic school yard defence of, “he started it”! In the court of public opinion, they never convict on that.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Dear Douglas
“Margo MacDonald has suggested to Alex Salmond a new plan that might help the independence cause. In a letter sent today to the First Minister, the Lothian independent and ex-SNP MSP suggested voters turning out for the European elections in June next year should also be given a form asking if they think there should be a referendum on independence”.
That would be a dreadful mistake, referendum on a referendum, far too serious a business to play stunts with. Margo MacDonald has been involved in politics for a long time so anyone is entitled to a mistake.
I am sure that Alex Salmond will bounce that one.
As to your “war” with the Labour Party’s Holyrood leader, Wendy Alexander, is this a phoney war to deflect attention away from the decision of the Standards Committee?
Wendy Alexander, GUILTY!
“Simon Pia, spokesman for Wendy Alexander, dropped by The Herald office today to serve notice”.
Where you in or did he leave a message?
I trust you or one of the plebs showed him the door and told him to pi$$ off. I remember when I brought in my complaint about Muir Russell being corrupt and involved in criminal fraud that Barclay McBain (Herald) said my complaint was “too specific”.
Did Pia have evidence against you? If he did, why was he bothering talking to you in the first place? If he had a complaint surely he would sling it across McGhee’s desk and pour out his tale of woe?
“that I have joined the list of those male journalists deemed to be misogynist for daring to suggest that his boss's "bring it on" handling of the independence referendum was somewhat less than politically smart”.
I would find it hard to believe you are a misogynist for voicing that Alexander hasn’t got it upstairs. Wendy Alexander goes from disaster to disaster and to add to her trouble she is personally despised as a human being and as shallow as two inch of bath water.
“Here was me with this this old-fashioned notion that misogyny had to do with hatred of women”.
Did you attend the Labour Party School when notions and concepts were adjusted post 2007 defeat?
Since you have been accused of misogyny will you be publishing the “evidence” or are you judged by accusation equals guilt?
Accusation equals guilt is practiced by the University of Glasgow and since Alexander went there she probably picked it up.
“Now I know better. It is any male criticism of the Labour leadership”.
I see, your defence is unintentional wrongdoing and your blog is a plea of mitigation, kind of along the lines of section 191 (1) of the Criminal Procedures (Scotland) Act 1995. You are asking for a lighter sentence around 20% off?
“It is true Holyrood needs a better gender balance in its reporting, or indeed any gender balance”.
You should consider going a profile on Duncan “Cretin” McNeil, the man who would be sheep!
There are a lot of thick Labour people but the trouble is that women like Alexander, Curran, Bailiie and Jamieson shove themselves forward as they think they have something to say and that we should hear it.
The thick guys just are smart enough to keep walking and duck out, probably under orders from their wives.
“But would female reporters really appreciate how much Wendy Alexander's leadership is a model of clarity, vision and success, putting the SNP on the run while positioning herself perfectly to seize power when the opportunity arises?”
I doubt it; some of your female reporters are suffering from subjective opinion equals facts.
“Only a misogynist would ask that”.
Or a troublemaker, Douglas!
Finally if Pia keeps this up you should load up for some heavy retaliation and get it in first, you have the classic school yard defence of, “he started it”! In the court of public opinion, they never convict on that.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
[quote][bold]subrosa[/bold] wrote:
Rather surprising for you to admit Mr Pia drops by your office Douglas. Somehow I have a feeling a member of the SNP noticed him sneaking in your door and would have blown his cover if you hadn't done.
Mind you it took courage to write it on here so well done. Think your journalist of the year award will have to wait now though but we can't win 'em all can we Douglas.[/quote] Sub Rosa,
I'll put your snide remark down to ignorance rather than spite. Spin doctors from all parties regularly the visit the offices of all journalists.
There is nothing strange in Pia visiting the Herald's offices, which are just as likely to be visited by Ramsay of the Tories, Will of the SNP or NEil of the Lib Dems.
It astonishes me that someone like you - who clearly has no grasp of how the political system works - should be so quick to comment.
subrosa wrote:
Rather surprising for you to admit Mr Pia drops by your office Douglas. Somehow I have a feeling a member of the SNP noticed him sneaking in your door and would have blown his cover if you hadn't done.
Mind you it took courage to write it on here so well done. Think your journalist of the year award will have to wait now though but we can't win 'em all can we Douglas.
Sub Rosa,
I'll put your snide remark down to ignorance rather than spite. Spin doctors from all parties regularly the visit the offices of all journalists.
There is nothing strange in Pia visiting the Herald's offices, which are just as likely to be visited by Ramsay of the Tories, Will of the SNP or NEil of the Lib Dems.
It astonishes me that someone like you - who clearly has no grasp of how the political system works - should be so quick to comment.
I heard she was a bit of a rug muncher. I noticed that on the banner on their juntas website yesterday. All women and one guy on photo.
I gues it's part of her strategy. Her core voters will consist of legions of doc martin booted man haters circa viz 1990.
I wonder what goes on after their saturday night curries?
I heard she was a bit of a rug muncher. I noticed that on the banner on their juntas website yesterday. All women and one guy on photo.
I gues it's part of her strategy. Her core voters will consist of legions of doc martin booted man haters circa viz 1990.
I wonder what goes on after their saturday night curries?
Heard the latest - Team Wendy has signed up a psychiatrist to watch over Wee Wendy. Yes this is a true story, the poor wee lassie has psychological problems in being a leader.
At FMQs Wendy's every move will be monitored and reported on, every word spoken will be recorded and dissected. Wendy's mental state will be graphed and sent to Downing Street by courier pigeon.
It is little wonder Simon Pia has been sent to the editorial rooms to chastise and press the Scottish newsroom flesh. The last thing he wants to see in print now is:
OFFICIAL - WENDY ALEXANDER IS A NUTTER.
Heard the latest - Team Wendy has signed up a psychiatrist to watch over Wee Wendy. Yes this is a true story, the poor wee lassie has psychological problems in being a leader.
At FMQs Wendy's every move will be monitored and reported on, every word spoken will be recorded and dissected. Wendy's mental state will be graphed and sent to Downing Street by courier pigeon.
It is little wonder Simon Pia has been sent to the editorial rooms to chastise and press the Scottish newsroom flesh. The last thing he wants to see in print now is:
[quote][bold]Karin[/bold] wrote:
i heard the only newspaper that wendy alexander can still get a picture in is the greenock telegraph and only then because duncan mcneil is known to the editor.[/quote] Unfortunately for us Donkey McNeil and that ither wee erse licker Cairns photies are never out of the Greenock Telegraph. The "tele" is well known hereabouts for always being in awe of politicians and usually will hear no words spoke against them, the same with Trish Godman.
Karin wrote:
i heard the only newspaper that wendy alexander can still get a picture in is the greenock telegraph and only then because duncan mcneil is known to the editor.
Unfortunately for us Donkey McNeil and that ither wee erse licker Cairns photies are never out of the Greenock Telegraph. The "tele" is well known hereabouts for always being in awe of politicians and usually will hear no words spoke against them, the same with Trish Godman.
[quote][bold]Karin[/bold] wrote:
i heard the only newspaper that wendy alexander can still get a picture in is the greenock telegraph and only then because duncan mcneil is known to the editor.[/quote] Unfortunately for us Donkey McNeil and that ither wee erse licker Cairns photies are never out of the Greenock Telegraph. The "tele" is well known hereabouts for always being in awe of politicians and usually will hear no words spoke against them, the same with Trish Godman.
Karin wrote:
i heard the only newspaper that wendy alexander can still get a picture in is the greenock telegraph and only then because duncan mcneil is known to the editor.
Unfortunately for us Donkey McNeil and that ither wee erse licker Cairns photies are never out of the Greenock Telegraph. The "tele" is well known hereabouts for always being in awe of politicians and usually will hear no words spoke against them, the same with Trish Godman.
here i just heard dougie fraser is leaving the herald?
here did someone mention rats and a sinking ship?
cue vermin comments......................................
Anyway dougie good luck when are ye going?
here i just heard dougie fraser is leaving the herald?
Posted by: George Laird at 3:10pm on Thu 26 Jun 08
Dear Douglas
Congratulations on your new job.
You may remember that some time ago I was going on about you jumping ship and even urged it.
When are you going to spill the beans on this blog offically?
The Herald as you know is suffering under its support for New Labour and Wendy Alexander, you are doing the right thing baling out.
Finally I suspect that part of the reason is that the Herald is headed for a political shift to embed in with the SNP Government.
The Herald wants to be part of the SNP Government establishment.
Anyway good luck.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Dear Douglas
Congratulations on your new job.
You may remember that some time ago I was going on about you jumping ship and even urged it.
When are you going to spill the beans on this blog offically?
The Herald as you know is suffering under its support for New Labour and Wendy Alexander, you are doing the right thing baling out.
Finally I suspect that part of the reason is that the Herald is headed for a political shift to embed in with the SNP Government.
The Herald wants to be part of the SNP Government establishment.
Anyway good luck.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Yes - "Good Luck" Douglas.
Really hope that you gain an "independent" impartial perspective on politics over in the BBC. Play your cards right and you could be presenting the Scottish Six - or perhaps "Fits-like Newsnicht" at 10.30pm - followed by EBC's NewsNight at 11pm.
Slainte Mhor
Yes - "Good Luck" Douglas.
Really hope that you gain an "independent" impartial perspective on politics over in the BBC. Play your cards right and you could be presenting the Scottish Six - or perhaps "Fits-like Newsnicht" at 10.30pm - followed by EBC's NewsNight at 11pm.
Slainte Mhor
Posted by: George Laird at 5:19pm on Thu 26 Jun 08
Dear SteveFury
Let's just stick around and see if my prediction comes true.
I would say that The Herald's possible decision has nothing to do with Freedom of the Press rather sales figures.
I imagine they will be campaigning and cheerleadering a bit.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Dear SteveFury
Let's just stick around and see if my prediction comes true.
I would say that The Herald's possible decision has nothing to do with Freedom of the Press rather sales figures.
I imagine they will be campaigning and cheerleadering a bit.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
It's interesting that Douglas - who writes under his own name - allows comments from hateful, stupid, faceless, paranoid, deluded, boring, aggressive, inadequate wee cyber-nats whose grasp of the media and the political machine is laughable.
The people who make these posts are salmond's secret shame. Nat posters, you do know that SNP MSPs are utterly embarrassed by you all, don't you?
You do know that your political heroes think you're nutters?
It's interesting that Douglas - who writes under his own name - allows comments from hateful, stupid, faceless, paranoid, deluded, boring, aggressive, inadequate wee cyber-nats whose grasp of the media and the political machine is laughable.
The people who make these posts are salmond's secret shame. Nat posters, you do know that SNP MSPs are utterly embarrassed by you all, don't you?
You do know that your political heroes think you're nutters?
Posted by: George Laird at 6:11pm on Thu 26 Jun 08
Dear Commentator
As you don't have the balls to put your own name up, are you qualified to make such an opinion?
You pop up and abuse people by saying they are "faceless" but you are too.
Why the lack of courage?
Your other comments are a complete joke too.
“It's interesting that Douglas - who writes under his own name - allows comments”.
Since this is his blog it is not interesting that he writes under his own name, nor is it interesting he allows comments either.
“from hateful, stupid, faceless, paranoid, deluded, boring, aggressive, inadequate wee cyber-nats”.
How does voicing dissent make you hateful?
Or stupid?
Faceless as you describe it is a matter of personal choice.
You touch on “paranoid”; anyone who disagrees with you is “paranoid”?
Deluded is that not the same as stupid, over egging your little pudding?
“Boring” is subjective as opinions vary, hardly argument is it?
Aggressive, so if anyone dissents they must be “aggressive”? How does that concept fit in with your rant?
You must be aggressive to brand people stupid, actively seeking confrontation.
As to “inadequate”, another subjective comment, where’s the evidence? You disagreeing with someone views don’t make them inadequate.
“whose grasp of the media and the political machine is laughable”.
As is yours regarding political dissent.
“The people who make these posts are salmond's secret shame”.
Do you have evidence that Salmond even knows they people? Is everyone who is anti Labour an SNP supporter? You really are talking out your arse; do you have a grasp of reality?
“Nat posters, you do know that SNP MSPs are utterly embarrassed by you all, don't you?”
You give SNP MSP's took much credit for giving a toss.
“You do know that your political heroes think you're nutters?”
Maybe Wendy Alexander’s psychiatrist will turn his attention to them after he is finished with Alex Salmond.
Finally, since you feel so passionately about this perhaps you could argue your case using logic backed up by facts rather than acting like a wean. I am not a member of the SNP for your information and I always post with my real name.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Dear Commentator
As you don't have the balls to put your own name up, are you qualified to make such an opinion?
You pop up and abuse people by saying they are "faceless" but you are too.
Why the lack of courage?
Your other comments are a complete joke too.
“It's interesting that Douglas - who writes under his own name - allows comments”.
Since this is his blog it is not interesting that he writes under his own name, nor is it interesting he allows comments either.
Faceless as you describe it is a matter of personal choice.
You touch on “paranoid”; anyone who disagrees with you is “paranoid”?
Deluded is that not the same as stupid, over egging your little pudding?
“Boring” is subjective as opinions vary, hardly argument is it?
Aggressive, so if anyone dissents they must be “aggressive”? How does that concept fit in with your rant?
You must be aggressive to brand people stupid, actively seeking confrontation.
As to “inadequate”, another subjective comment, where’s the evidence? You disagreeing with someone views don’t make them inadequate.
“whose grasp of the media and the political machine is laughable”.
As is yours regarding political dissent.
“The people who make these posts are salmond's secret shame”.
Do you have evidence that Salmond even knows they people? Is everyone who is anti Labour an SNP supporter? You really are talking out your arse; do you have a grasp of reality?
“Nat posters, you do know that SNP MSPs are utterly embarrassed by you all, don't you?”
You give SNP MSP's took much credit for giving a toss.
“You do know that your political heroes think you're nutters?”
Maybe Wendy Alexander’s psychiatrist will turn his attention to them after he is finished with Alex Salmond.
Finally, since you feel so passionately about this perhaps you could argue your case using logic backed up by facts rather than acting like a wean. I am not a member of the SNP for your information and I always post with my real name.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Posted by: George Laird at 6:52pm on Thu 26 Jun 08
Dear Commentator
You appear unable to answer the questions, why?
Did I set them too hard?
As to being well known, I am sure that you are too, for all the wrong reasons.
If you ever stop being cowardly then I would be delighted to respond in detail to any allegations you may wish to put forward regarding me or indeed my Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University.
I have never had any diffcultly when it comes to putting up.
You on the other hand do!
Probably because of a lack of integrity.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Dear Commentator
You appear unable to answer the questions, why?
Did I set them too hard?
As to being well known, I am sure that you are too, for all the wrong reasons.
If you ever stop being cowardly then I would be delighted to respond in detail to any allegations you may wish to put forward regarding me or indeed my Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University.
I have never had any diffcultly when it comes to putting up.
You on the other hand do!
Probably because of a lack of integrity.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Posted by: No War But The Class War at 7:28pm on Thu 26 Jun 08
Congratulations on your new job. It's a shame you won't still be hanging round Holyrood letting us know what folk are up to.
I like your blog very much, will they let you write one at the BBC??
Congratulations on your new job. It's a shame you won't still be hanging round Holyrood letting us know what folk are up to.
I like your blog very much, will they let you write one at the BBC??
[bold]The Scottish Political Editor at The Herald is leaving for a Senior Post at BBC Scotland.[/bold]
Well I never, Business & Economics Editor apparently.
The Scottish Political Editor at The Herald is leaving for a Senior Post at BBC Scotland.
Well I never, Business & Economics Editor apparently.
I hope that The Herald will now see sense and see where the wind is blowing when it comes to apponting a new political Editor. All people want is fairness in reporting stories but in Scotland that seems too much to ask..
Hope in your new job Douglas that you can bring to light a bit more about Scotland subsidising the rest of the UK and expose the lies of unionism.. ah well at least i tried.
I hope that The Herald will now see sense and see where the wind is blowing when it comes to apponting a new political Editor. All people want is fairness in reporting stories but in Scotland that seems too much to ask..
Hope in your new job Douglas that you can bring to light a bit more about Scotland subsidising the rest of the UK and expose the lies of unionism.. ah well at least i tried.
Posted by: Idiotfinder general at 8:26pm on Thu 26 Jun 08
[quote][bold]indyleith[/bold] wrote:
I hope that The Herald will now see sense and see where the wind is blowing when it comes to apponting a new political Editor. All people want is fairness in reporting stories but in Scotland that seems too much to ask..
Hope in your new job Douglas that you can bring to light a bit more about Scotland subsidising the rest of the UK and expose the lies of unionism.. ah well at least i tried.[/quote] At least you tried? What arrogance. As if the internet whingeings of a tosser like you should be considered by anyone.
You and George Laird should get stuffed, sparky.
Idiot identified - my work here is done.
indyleith wrote:
I hope that The Herald will now see sense and see where the wind is blowing when it comes to apponting a new political Editor. All people want is fairness in reporting stories but in Scotland that seems too much to ask..
Hope in your new job Douglas that you can bring to light a bit more about Scotland subsidising the rest of the UK and expose the lies of unionism.. ah well at least i tried.
At least you tried? What arrogance. As if the internet whingeings of a tosser like you should be considered by anyone.
You and George Laird should get stuffed, sparky.
Idiot identified - my work here is done.
Posted by: George Laird at 9:07pm on Thu 26 Jun 08
[quote][bold]Idiotfinder general[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]indyleith[/bold] wrote: I hope that The Herald will now see sense and see where the wind is blowing when it comes to apponting a new political Editor. All people want is fairness in reporting stories but in Scotland that seems too much to ask.. Hope in your new job Douglas that you can bring to light a bit more about Scotland subsidising the rest of the UK and expose the lies of unionism.. ah well at least i tried.[/quote] At least you tried? What arrogance. As if the internet whingeings of a tosser like you should be considered by anyone. You and George Laird should get stuffed, sparky. Idiot identified - my work here is done.[/quote] Dear Idiotfinder General
I see that you have kept your New Labour guango job. You must have your work cut out down at John Smith House.
I would like to return to the subject of my veracity since you implied that I am a liar.
Where can I stick some evidence in your greasy paws?
Time and place if you are not too cowardly.
Finally you say that myself and another poster should get "stuffed", pretty tough talk from the most effeminate poster on these forums.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Idiotfinder general wrote:
indyleith wrote: I hope that The Herald will now see sense and see where the wind is blowing when it comes to apponting a new political Editor. All people want is fairness in reporting stories but in Scotland that seems too much to ask.. Hope in your new job Douglas that you can bring to light a bit more about Scotland subsidising the rest of the UK and expose the lies of unionism.. ah well at least i tried.
At least you tried? What arrogance. As if the internet whingeings of a tosser like you should be considered by anyone. You and George Laird should get stuffed, sparky. Idiot identified - my work here is done.
Dear Idiotfinder General
I see that you have kept your New Labour guango job. You must have your work cut out down at John Smith House.
I would like to return to the subject of my veracity since you implied that I am a liar.
Where can I stick some evidence in your greasy paws?
Time and place if you are not too cowardly.
Finally you say that myself and another poster should get "stuffed", pretty tough talk from the most effeminate poster on these forums.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
To the Idiot,
Whats Wrong? Is it too much for fair reporting in Scotland? Why should they take notice of my whingeings? Well for one in a democratic society usually the media would take note of what the paying public want. after all you shouldnt bite the hand that feeds.
I like anyone have a right to air my views, not sorry they upset you so much. Arrogant i am not unlike new liebour who lie about Scotland's surplus for years at the expense of their people. Now that isnt just arrogance thats shameful.
You dont like the truth? Tough, go and play with your dollies then. Tosspot.
To the Idiot,
Whats Wrong? Is it too much for fair reporting in Scotland? Why should they take notice of my whingeings? Well for one in a democratic society usually the media would take note of what the paying public want. after all you shouldnt bite the hand that feeds.
I like anyone have a right to air my views, not sorry they upset you so much. Arrogant i am not unlike new liebour who lie about Scotland's surplus for years at the expense of their people. Now that isnt just arrogance thats shameful.
You dont like the truth? Tough, go and play with your dollies then. Tosspot.
Ah good - another vitriolic, bile riddled unionist using two addresses to post - commentator & idiot...I thought at first it must be ptbs but this boy can at least spell so it can't be ptbs...och well, who knows...as a "hateful, stupid, faceless, paranoid, deluded, boring, aggressive, inadequate wee cyber-nat" I'll just keep on keeping on - good to know you're taking offence...sleep tight now and don't let the nasty nats bite...
Ah good - another vitriolic, bile riddled unionist using two addresses to post - commentator & idiot...I thought at first it must be ptbs but this boy can at least spell so it can't be ptbs...och well, who knows...as a "hateful, stupid, faceless, paranoid, deluded, boring, aggressive, inadequate wee cyber-nat" I'll just keep on keeping on - good to know you're taking offence...sleep tight now and don't let the nasty nats bite...
Looks like the Scottish Labour party have clamped down on the comment boards once again, unbelievable.
Douglas ince your leaving, can you spill the beams behind these repeated removal of comments.
[bold]Is Simon Pia threatening the Herald with legal action for the comments carried on your online stories or not?[/bold]
Looks like the Scottish Labour party have clamped down on the comment boards once again, unbelievable.
Douglas ince your leaving, can you spill the beams behind these repeated removal of comments.
Is Simon Pia threatening the Herald with legal action for the comments carried on your online stories or not?
[bold]Who wrote this?[/bold]
Replacing the Community Charge?
[quote][bold]Donation damage[/bold]
[italic]Herald today[/italic]
Politically, it will be a long, hot summer for Wendy Alexander. The decision by the Scottish Parliament's standards committee that she should be suspended for one day for failing to declare donations to her leadership campaign in the register of members' interests will undermine her position as Labour leader.
Having decided that she was guilty of breaking parliamentary rules, the committee could have decided simply to censure her. The decision to impose a sanction was carried by a single vote, but the ban restricted to one day as a result of "mitigating factors". This messy outcome provides some substance to the charge from Labour loyalists that it was politically motivated and mirrors the convoluted saga of the donations which led to the recommendation.
Despite the brevity of the suspension, it will seriously wound Ms Alexander's already damaged credibility. Since it cannot take effect until ratified by the parliament, which is now in recess for the summer, it will not be the short, sharp, symbolic punishment it appears at first sight, but add fuel to mutterings from disaffected colleagues about her capability as leader.
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She must now demonstrate that she is the best person to lead Labour at Holyrood despite a series of decisions which call her judgment into question.
The saga over the donations to her leadership fund is particularly confused because the issue before the standards committee was not the one which is uppermost in the public mind in connection to Ms Alexander's leadership campaign. That was an illegal donation of £950 from a businessman based in the Channel Islands, which was later returned.
However, the standards committee was considering whether she broke the rules by failing to register eight donations, following advice to the standards commissioner that they should have been declared, even though Ms Alexander had previously received contrary advice from the committee clerks. After a report was sent to the procurator fiscal, the Crown Office concluded that prosecuting the Labour leader "would not be appropriate".
That leaves the standards committee's recommendation looking perilously close to political point-scoring. Nevertheless, it is unlikely to produce much sympathy for Ms Alexander, who has so far failed to use First Minister's Questions to check the adroit parliamentary performance of Alex Salmond.
As leader of the main opposition party, she has yet to orchestrate an effective challenge to the SNP's minority administration, even when flaws become evident in core policies such as replacing the community charge with local income tax. She has, however, made herself more vulnerable by an apparently impetuous call for an early referendum on independence which was swiftly overruled by Gordon Brown in the House of Commons.
The effectiveness of her leadership is a matter for her party. The question of how to fund the political process in this country in a way that is fair and accountable is unresolved. What should result from this unsavoury episode - at least, as far as the Scottish Parliament is concerned - is that the rules are revised to be as unambiguous as possible, and that all MSPs embrace the value of transparency.
[/quote]
Who wrote this?
Replacing the Community Charge?
Donation damage Herald today
Politically, it will be a long, hot summer for Wendy Alexander. The decision by the Scottish Parliament's standards committee that she should be suspended for one day for failing to declare donations to her leadership campaign in the register of members' interests will undermine her position as Labour leader.
Having decided that she was guilty of breaking parliamentary rules, the committee could have decided simply to censure her. The decision to impose a sanction was carried by a single vote, but the ban restricted to one day as a result of "mitigating factors". This messy outcome provides some substance to the charge from Labour loyalists that it was politically motivated and mirrors the convoluted saga of the donations which led to the recommendation.
Despite the brevity of the suspension, it will seriously wound Ms Alexander's already damaged credibility. Since it cannot take effect until ratified by the parliament, which is now in recess for the summer, it will not be the short, sharp, symbolic punishment it appears at first sight, but add fuel to mutterings from disaffected colleagues about her capability as leader.
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She must now demonstrate that she is the best person to lead Labour at Holyrood despite a series of decisions which call her judgment into question.
The saga over the donations to her leadership fund is particularly confused because the issue before the standards committee was not the one which is uppermost in the public mind in connection to Ms Alexander's leadership campaign. That was an illegal donation of £950 from a businessman based in the Channel Islands, which was later returned.
However, the standards committee was considering whether she broke the rules by failing to register eight donations, following advice to the standards commissioner that they should have been declared, even though Ms Alexander had previously received contrary advice from the committee clerks. After a report was sent to the procurator fiscal, the Crown Office concluded that prosecuting the Labour leader "would not be appropriate".
That leaves the standards committee's recommendation looking perilously close to political point-scoring. Nevertheless, it is unlikely to produce much sympathy for Ms Alexander, who has so far failed to use First Minister's Questions to check the adroit parliamentary performance of Alex Salmond.
As leader of the main opposition party, she has yet to orchestrate an effective challenge to the SNP's minority administration, even when flaws become evident in core policies such as replacing the community charge with local income tax. She has, however, made herself more vulnerable by an apparently impetuous call for an early referendum on independence which was swiftly overruled by Gordon Brown in the House of Commons.
The effectiveness of her leadership is a matter for her party. The question of how to fund the political process in this country in a way that is fair and accountable is unresolved. What should result from this unsavoury episode - at least, as far as the Scottish Parliament is concerned - is that the rules are revised to be as unambiguous as possible, and that all MSPs embrace the value of transparency.
[quote][bold]Commentator[/bold] wrote:
It's interesting that Douglas - who writes under his own name - allows comments from hateful, stupid, faceless, paranoid, deluded, boring, aggressive, inadequate wee cyber-nats whose grasp of the media and the political machine is laughable. The people who make these posts are salmond's secret shame. Nat posters, you do know that SNP MSPs are utterly embarrassed by you all, don't you? You do know that your political heroes think you're nutters?[/quote] [quote]It's interesting that Douglas - who writes under his own name - allows comments[/quote]
Shirley ye mean
It's interesting that I Douglas - write under my own name - allow comments..........
Commentator wrote:
It's interesting that Douglas - who writes under his own name - allows comments from hateful, stupid, faceless, paranoid, deluded, boring, aggressive, inadequate wee cyber-nats whose grasp of the media and the political machine is laughable. The people who make these posts are salmond's secret shame. Nat posters, you do know that SNP MSPs are utterly embarrassed by you all, don't you? You do know that your political heroes think you're nutters?
It's interesting that Douglas - who writes under his own name - allows comments
Shirley ye mean
It's interesting that I Douglas - write under my own name - allow comments..........
Douglas you fogeot a few bits in your LIT anaylsis.
It found that for every 1p raised on basic and higher rate earnings, £417m would be raised from Scottish taxpayers.
Multiplied up to 3p in the pound, that would raise £1250m.
The amount currently raised by the council tax is £1800
Using Council Tax Benefit funds differently would essentially close that Gap to £150m
LIT redistributes taxation in a much more efficient & simpler way that tax credits.
Take off the £90m saving in administration costs and the difference is [bold]£60m[/bold] 3% of that currently raised by Council Tax
Now include a higher take for second homes and an element of LVT....
The LIT take may well be more than what Council Tax rakes in!
Douglas you fogeot a few bits in your LIT anaylsis.
It found that for every 1p raised on basic and higher rate earnings, £417m would be raised from Scottish taxpayers.
Multiplied up to 3p in the pound, that would raise £1250m.
The amount currently raised by the council tax is £1800
Using Council Tax Benefit funds differently would essentially close that Gap to £150m
LIT redistributes taxation in a much more efficient & simpler way that tax credits.
Take off the £90m saving in administration costs and the difference is £60m 3% of that currently raised by Council Tax
Now include a higher take for second homes and an element of LVT....
The LIT take may well be more than what Council Tax rakes in!
Posted by: George Laird at 3:12pm on Fri 27 Jun 08
Dear All
Last night on Newsnight Scotland, David Whitton made much of the fact that Wendy Alexander had been found "innocent".
Can someone tell me which Court of Law found Wendy Alexander innocent?
Was she found innocent by a secret court?
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Dear All
Last night on Newsnight Scotland, David Whitton made much of the fact that Wendy Alexander had been found "innocent".
Can someone tell me which Court of Law found Wendy Alexander innocent?
Was she found innocent by a secret court?
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
I hope the new man at the Herald is Paul Hutcheon, Scottish Political Editor of the Sunday Herald. He deserves promotion for his expose's' of Labour sleeze. It would be a fillip for true investigative jounalism, which is scarce on the ground.
On the Wendy debacle. Did anyone establish how many complaints from the public were received? Whitton said ".....not one....." on the news.
I hope the new man at the Herald is Paul Hutcheon, Scottish Political Editor of the Sunday Herald. He deserves promotion for his expose's' of Labour sleeze. It would be a fillip for true investigative jounalism, which is scarce on the ground.
On the Wendy debacle. Did anyone establish how many complaints from the public were received? Whitton said ".....not one....." on the news.
I hope the new man at the Herald is Paul Hutcheon, Scottish Political Editor of the Sunday Herald. He deserves promotion for his expose's' of Labour sleeze. It would be a fillip for true investigative jounalism, which is scarce on the ground.
On the Wendy debacle. Did anyone establish how many complaints from the public were received? Whitton said ".....not one....." on the news.
I hope the new man at the Herald is Paul Hutcheon, Scottish Political Editor of the Sunday Herald. He deserves promotion for his expose's' of Labour sleeze. It would be a fillip for true investigative jounalism, which is scarce on the ground.
On the Wendy debacle. Did anyone establish how many complaints from the public were received? Whitton said ".....not one....." on the news.
When's this rag going to stop censoring legitimate comment on the stories which matter to Scotland, the oil rip-off, the Labour sleaze scandal and theft by the leadership, the Calman farce, the scandal of Scotland subsidising the union for 30 years or so...? People post well researched and well written comments only to have them removed - either don't let any comments at all or show some balls in letting the comments already made stand. You have the facility to remove the offensive, so why close the whole section?
When's this rag going to stop censoring legitimate comment on the stories which matter to Scotland, the oil rip-off, the Labour sleaze scandal and theft by the leadership, the Calman farce, the scandal of Scotland subsidising the union for 30 years or so...? People post well researched and well written comments only to have them removed - either don't let any comments at all or show some balls in letting the comments already made stand. You have the facility to remove the offensive, so why close the whole section?
Posted by: Idiotfinder General at 5:14pm on Mon 30 Jun 08
The reason they don't allow comments in because of the deluge of abusive, defamatory posts from idiot cyber nats.
Why should you cretins be allowed a say?
Idiotic cyber nats are Salmond's shame.
The reason they don't allow comments in because of the deluge of abusive, defamatory posts from idiot cyber nats.
Why should you cretins be allowed a say?
Idiotic cyber nats are Salmond's shame.
[quote][bold]Idiotfinder General[/bold] wrote:
The reason they don't allow comments in because of the deluge of abusive, defamatory posts from idiot cyber nats.
Why should you cretins be allowed a say?
Idiotic cyber nats are Salmond's shame.[/quote] [bold]
There speaks the voice of censoring fascism.[/bold]
"It's my baw and am no play'n" Labour Mentality.
Idiotfinder General wrote:
The reason they don't allow comments in because of the deluge of abusive, defamatory posts from idiot cyber nats.
Why should you cretins be allowed a say?
Idiotic cyber nats are Salmond's shame.
[bold]Suspension for 5 Days after [italic]a Labour MSP Complained[/italic] [/bold]
[italic]www.scottish.parliament.uk/business/committees/standards/reports-07/str07-01-00.htm
[/italic]
[quote]"...Ms Jamieson complained that following a meeting of the Glasgow Airport Rail Link (GARL) Bill Committee on 5 June 2006, Mr Monteith had disclosed confidential information to the media ahead of the publication of the Committee’s Preliminary Stage Report which was published at 8am on 8 June 2006...."[/quote]
Following a report from Dr Jim Dyer into the matter, his report was submitted to the Standards Committee.....
The Committee recommended to Parliament that Brian Monteith MSP be—
[quote]"..excluded from all meetings of the Parliament and all meetings of its Committees for the first five sitting days immediately after this motion is agreed...."[/quote]
[italic]In 2007 she lost her constituency to Willie Coffey of the SNP[/italic]
Suspension for 5 Days after a Labour MSP Complained
"...Ms Jamieson complained that following a meeting of the Glasgow Airport Rail Link (GARL) Bill Committee on 5 June 2006, Mr Monteith had disclosed confidential information to the media ahead of the publication of the Committee’s Preliminary Stage Report which was published at 8am on 8 June 2006...."
Following a report from Dr Jim Dyer into the matter, his report was submitted to the Standards Committee.....
The Committee recommended to Parliament that Brian Monteith MSP be—
"..excluded from all meetings of the Parliament and all meetings of its Committees for the first five sitting days immediately after this motion is agreed...."
In 2007 she lost her constituency to Willie Coffey of the SNP
General Idiot writes:
"Why should you cretins be allowed a say?"
For the same reason a moron like you should be allowed a say...or is that too difficult a concept for you to grasp?
General Idiot writes:
"Why should you cretins be allowed a say?"
For the same reason a moron like you should be allowed a say...or is that too difficult a concept for you to grasp?
Dear Nostress
Idiot General doesn't believe in free speech as a Labour supporting troll.
I respect his right to hold contempible views as I believe in freedom of speech.
Idiot General doesn't like me as his posts above show.
I think it is because I have been very critical of the disgraced leader of the Holyrood group Wendy Alexander.
You have to remember that Idiot General is suffering and show a bit of empathy.
Ask yourself what would Douglas Fraser do?
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Dear Nostress
Idiot General doesn't believe in free speech as a Labour supporting troll.
I respect his right to hold contempible views as I believe in freedom of speech.
Idiot General doesn't like me as his posts above show.
I think it is because I have been very critical of the disgraced leader of the Holyrood group Wendy Alexander.
You have to remember that Idiot General is suffering and show a bit of empathy.
Ask yourself what would Douglas Fraser do?
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Posted by: Idiotfinder General at 10:53pm on Tue 1 Jul 08
George, you stupid little nyaff,
why does it follow that I hold certain views about you based on your opinion of the Labour Party?
Are you really so arrogant and deluded that you can't accept my disdain for total scumbags like you has nothing to do with party politics.
I loathe cretins like you and so many others who post here because you are idiots. I am the Idiotfinder General. It is my duty to find idiots and point the finger.
You are an irritating, inadequate conspiracy theorist. Do you want to explain any details of the restraining order against you?
George Laird - Idiot!
George, you stupid little nyaff,
why does it follow that I hold certain views about you based on your opinion of the Labour Party?
Are you really so arrogant and deluded that you can't accept my disdain for total scumbags like you has nothing to do with party politics.
I loathe cretins like you and so many others who post here because you are idiots. I am the Idiotfinder General. It is my duty to find idiots and point the finger.
You are an irritating, inadequate conspiracy theorist. Do you want to explain any details of the restraining order against you?
Dear Idiot finder General
Why all this hostility to me?
What have I done?
I am simple humble man of the people type dude, which people naturally like.
At University when I was teaching I was terribly popular, generating the type of loyalty and respect that Wendy Alexander could only dream of.
As to your points, I would like to make some comments.
“George, you stupid little nyaff”,
When at university I had to sit professional exams as part of my charity work, I got 95% and 92% in the written papers.
At exam time I was helping my class mates to pass their exams and during the practical, I lend them some of my trainees.
I would therefore dispute the claim “stupid”.
“why does it follow that I hold certain views about you based on your opinion of the Labour Party?”
I think it is because you let your hatred boil over.
You don’t like Human Rights Campaigners do you?
“Are you really so arrogant and deluded that you can't accept my disdain for total scumbags like you has nothing to do with party politics”.
I am shocked that you consider me a “total scumbag”, I always thought of myself as just a working class scumbag.
What advantages if any are there in being a “total scumbag”?
If you are not a “total scumbag” are there other classes of scumbag?
“I loathe cretins like you and so many others who post here because you are idiots”.
I thought you said I was a “total scumbag” and now you are saying I am a cretin, which is it?
Is not the reason you loathe people like me is because I tell the truth?
Is it because I am blunt?
I can explain this, it is a by-product of teaching at the highest level. I taught people who have represented Britain, England and Scotland at various sports.
How did I manage that as a “total scumbag”?
Why did so many hig
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