A fifth day of confusion over that Labour U-turn on supporting an independence referendum.
SUNDAY: Wendy Alexander blurts out, on television, that the SNP should "bring it on", having previously said Labour would combine with others to block a referendum.
MONDAY: It becomes clear that she had told no-one within Labour that she was going to do this.
TUESDAY: After MSPs agree to fall into line, it is announced by Duncan McNeil, the group convener, that the party will abstain on any referendum bill that comes before parliament.
She says she might use the option of bringing forward a Labour bill to force the government to speed up its timetable for a referendum - or to vote it down, which would be embarrassing for the SNP. At Westminster, Gordon Brown's spokesman, under sustained pressure in his daily briefing, declines to endorse the new position, saying it is a debate to be had in the Scottish Parliament.
WEDNESDAY: Asked by David Cameron if he agrees with Wendy Alexander there should be a referendum, Gordon Brown denies she has said that. (It is later lamely explained this is because she does not want it "now", leading to a surreal debate on the meaning of the word.) The Prime Minister goes on that the Calman Commission, on extra powers, should be left to report and then a decision will be made on its outcome. He later agrees a common line with Alexander that they are completely in agreement... on the importance of "exposing the shallowness" of the SNP, but avoiding the key issues at question.
David Cameron increases the pressure with a letter highlighting the inconsistency in the Prime Minister's statement. Brown replies that David Cameron fails to understand the referendum process, and says that Tories should be joining Labour in defending the union.
Finance spokesman Iain Gray is sent out to reconcile the irreconcilable in three broadcast interviews. That was a very short straw he drew in cabinet.
TODAY: Malcolm Chisholm joins the struggle to explain in the media how the Prime Minister and Wendy Alexander are in agreement. She then raises the issue at First Minister's questions, saying that the referendum should be called "now" and "next week", leaving no doubt that the Prime Minister was wrong when he told MPs she had said no such thing. The difference between them is now beyond doubt. A copy of a further letter from David Cameron has just dropped on my desk, detailing what Wendy Alexander said at FMQs, and accusing the Prime Minister of "exactly the sort of linguistic gymnastics is making people confused and even angry with your style of leadership". He says the PM has been "completely unclear and potentially misleading in your replies to my questions". In Westminster-speak, that's a serious charge.
Now, there was a point when Wendy Alexander could have said that she was standing up to London Labour, and showing her independence of Downing Street. But that point is now long past. Instead we have spin that is heading towards the dishonest.
The spin has suggested the SNP position has changed and that it is trying to delay a referendum. That is not true. The SNP has consistently said it would have the referendum in 2010 though its top spokesman took a bit of heat from journalists this afternoon on why it is not taking up the Labour offer. Why not try, for instance, take up Labour's offer of passing a bill as soon as possible, and leave it open for ministers to set the date later on - getting the bill through and still sticking with the 2010 target date?
The spin has suggested that David Cameron asked about Westminster calling and arranging an independence referendum. He didn't.
The spin suggested it would take up to a year to pass a referendum bill, and at least nine months, and that the 2010 date for passing a bill and holding a referendum is therefore unrealistic. That is highly unlikely.
The spin has suggested that when the Prime Minister wants to wait until the Calman Commission has reported and will then decide what to do, and when Wendy Alexander wants a referendum as soon as possible, they are in agreement. They are not.
There remains a significant gap in Labour's story. If it does not get the referendum it says it wants, within a year or so (which it seems certain that it won't), will it let the SNP have the referendum on the SNP's preferred timetable, in 2010. It seemed, from what Duncan McNeil said on Tuesday, that it would. It is not clear now, and Labour has twice warned now that it may pick a fight over the wording of the referendum question. There is no blank cheque, we are told.
Someone has been monkeying with the SNP's Wikipedia entry.
"The Scottish National Party (SNP) (Scottish Gaelic: Pārtaidh Nāiseanta na h-Alba) is a centre-left, Social democratic political party which campaigns for the destruction of the 1707 Union which created Great Britain, and the creation of a Scottish state heavily modelled on East Germany (DDR)."
The Labour party has turned into the, "Judean People's Front crack suicide squad", from Monty Python's, "Life of Brian".
The SNP are watching in bemusement as Labour stab themselves to death as a means of resistance. I think if the Labour Party just refused to talk to anyone and stayed out of the parliament they'd make a better job of being in opposition.
The Labour party has turned into the, "Judean People's Front crack suicide squad", from Monty Python's, "Life of Brian".
The SNP are watching in bemusement as Labour stab themselves to death as a means of resistance. I think if the Labour Party just refused to talk to anyone and stayed out of the parliament they'd make a better job of being in opposition.
Dear Douglas
Have you started on the Andy Kerr, the King in waiting articles yet?
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Dear Douglas
Have you started on the Andy Kerr, the King in waiting articles yet?
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
[quote]MONDAY: It becomes clear that she had told no-one within Labour that she was going to do this.[/quote] I do not believe this Mr Fraser. I think the catastrophe was in the delivery of an agreed script concoted by perhaps Simon Pia, nodded to by Brown and D. Alexander.
But Ms Alexander, a notoriously poor speaker and unable to think on her feet (or bahookey) simply fluffed her lines. Her latest interview with Brian Taylor shows her carrying a crib sheet - astonishing!
MONDAY: It becomes clear that she had told no-one within Labour that she was going to do this.
I do not believe this Mr Fraser. I think the catastrophe was in the delivery of an agreed script concoted by perhaps Simon Pia, nodded to by Brown and D. Alexander.
But Ms Alexander, a notoriously poor speaker and unable to think on her feet (or bahookey) simply fluffed her lines. Her latest interview with Brian Taylor shows her carrying a crib sheet - astonishing!
Well done Wendy. Here is a person who clearly doesn't recognise that silence can be golden.
Her call today for an immediate referendum on Scottish independence now puts Gordon Brown in the deep stuff at Westminster. There can be no doubt what Wendy said, and when and where she said it. Nobody can spin Gordon Brown out of this one now, no words can be found to reconcile the opposed stances by Labour at Westminister and at Holyrood.
The opposition and the newsmedia in London will now hunt down Gordon Brown for a definitive response to Wendy's call for an immediate referendum on Scottish indpendence.
Well done Wendy. Here is a person who clearly doesn't recognise that silence can be golden.
Her call today for an immediate referendum on Scottish independence now puts Gordon Brown in the deep stuff at Westminster. There can be no doubt what Wendy said, and when and where she said it. Nobody can spin Gordon Brown out of this one now, no words can be found to reconcile the opposed stances by Labour at Westminister and at Holyrood.
The opposition and the newsmedia in London will now hunt down Gordon Brown for a definitive response to Wendy's call for an immediate referendum on Scottish indpendence.
Dear Douglas
What are you doing looking at the wiki entry?
"Someone has been monkeying with the SNP's Wikipedia entry.
"The Scottish National Party (SNP) (Scottish Gaelic: Pārtaidh Nāiseanta na h-Alba) is a centre-left, Social democratic political party which campaigns for the destruction of the 1707 Union which created Great Britain, and the creation of a Scottish state heavily modelled on East Germany (DDR)."
I have to ask the question, was it you?
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Dear Douglas
What are you doing looking at the wiki entry?
"Someone has been monkeying with the SNP's Wikipedia entry.
"The Scottish National Party (SNP) (Scottish Gaelic: Pārtaidh Nāiseanta na h-Alba) is a centre-left, Social democratic political party which campaigns for the destruction of the 1707 Union which created Great Britain, and the creation of a Scottish state heavily modelled on East Germany (DDR)."
I have to ask the question, was it you?
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
[quote]Finance spokesman Iain Gray is sent out to reconcile the irreconcilable in three broadcast interviews.[/quote] No mention of his slaughtering on Newsnicht.
If this man's speciality is Finance then all I can say is "Ah widnae trust him wi the menauge money"
Finance spokesman Iain Gray is sent out to reconcile the irreconcilable in three broadcast interviews.
No mention of his slaughtering on Newsnicht.
If this man's speciality is Finance then all I can say is "Ah widnae trust him wi the menauge money"
Douglas, your comment,
[bold]Instead we have spin that is heading towards the dishonest.
[/bold]
The spin is long passed heading to, it is totally dishonest. You also forgot to mention Broon deliberately lying to parliament at PMQs yesterday. Do you think he does not know exactly what is in the SNP manifesto. However Gorbals Mick has covered up for him, for now, but David Camerons letter might be interesting.
Also poor Ian Gray was desperate on TV last night trying to stick to the idiotic party line. It is as bad as it get when Brewer says to a Labour lackey "you might as well be speaking Portuguese for all the sense you are making.
Is the game up for Labour? are you Brewer Campbell etc finally seeing past the spin and joining the real world.
Douglas, your comment,
Instead we have spin that is heading towards the dishonest.
The spin is long passed heading to, it is totally dishonest. You also forgot to mention Broon deliberately lying to parliament at PMQs yesterday. Do you think he does not know exactly what is in the SNP manifesto. However Gorbals Mick has covered up for him, for now, but David Camerons letter might be interesting.
Also poor Ian Gray was desperate on TV last night trying to stick to the idiotic party line. It is as bad as it get when Brewer says to a Labour lackey "you might as well be speaking Portuguese for all the sense you are making.
Is the game up for Labour? are you Brewer Campbell etc finally seeing past the spin and joining the real world.
Posted by: george alexander at 5:09pm on Thu 8 May 08
[quote]A fifth day of confusion over that Labour U-turn....[/quote]
The third day of censorship from The Herald.
Now why would a journalist take the time to look at a vandalised Wikipedia entry? Then use it in an attempt at annoying readers of an SNP persuasion, very childish and very unprofessional.
We are waiting for your next 'SNP spoiler' piece Douglas, surely there must be more 'reports' from 'independent' bodies..................A Midwinter perhaps?
A fifth day of confusion over that Labour U-turn....
The third day of censorship from The Herald.
Now why would a journalist take the time to look at a vandalised Wikipedia entry? Then use it in an attempt at annoying readers of an SNP persuasion, very childish and very unprofessional.
We are waiting for your next 'SNP spoiler' piece Douglas, surely there must be more 'reports' from 'independent' bodies..................A Midwinter perhaps?
my oh my, brown can't deny that wendy wants a referendum 'now' wonder how much doodoo he is in now.
Time for a wacky conspiracy theory, wee dougie is going to challenge for his job and has got his sis in to help out. Looking forward to all the politics programmes tonight.
my oh my, brown can't deny that wendy wants a referendum 'now' wonder how much doodoo he is in now.
Time for a wacky conspiracy theory, wee dougie is going to challenge for his job and has got his sis in to help out. Looking forward to all the politics programmes tonight.
[quote][bold]george alexander[/bold] wrote:
[quote]A fifth day of confusion over that Labour U-turn....[/quote] The third day of censorship from The Herald. Now why would a journalist take the time to look at a vandalised Wikipedia entry? Then use it in an attempt at annoying readers of an SNP persuasion, very childish and very unprofessional. We are waiting for your next 'SNP spoiler' piece Douglas, surely there must be more 'reports' from 'independent' bodies..................A Midwinter perhaps?[/quote] Dear George Alexander
Are you possibly thinking that Douglas Fraser has been involved in some sort of wickedness re wiki entry?
I have directly asked him myself and await his reply on this issue.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
george alexander wrote:
A fifth day of confusion over that Labour U-turn....
The third day of censorship from The Herald. Now why would a journalist take the time to look at a vandalised Wikipedia entry? Then use it in an attempt at annoying readers of an SNP persuasion, very childish and very unprofessional. We are waiting for your next 'SNP spoiler' piece Douglas, surely there must be more 'reports' from 'independent' bodies..................A Midwinter perhaps?
Dear George Alexander
Are you possibly thinking that Douglas Fraser has been involved in some sort of wickedness re wiki entry?
I have directly asked him myself and await his reply on this issue.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Mr Fraser - Has Gordon rewarded Alf, you and your wife with knghthoods for services to labour yet ?
If he hasn't I think you all better ask him to hurry it up a bit .
Mr Fraser - Has Gordon rewarded Alf, you and your wife with knghthoods for services to labour yet ?
If he hasn't I think you all better ask him to hurry it up a bit .
Douglas
Well said.
A huge gap is, as you say, now appearing between Labour in Westminster and Labour in Holyrood.
But even more importantly, and credit to you, a gap is now appearing between Labour and the media.
Keep up the good work.
The only thing I would say in addition to your article is that after Duncan McNeill's comments:
[quote]"No-one had any complaints about the decision, and we are now in a position where, [bold]as a group[/bold] , [bold]we will not vote down any referendum bill that comes into the parliament[/bold] "[/quote]
They are committed to the referendum, in principle, regardless of the wording. They cannot get off the hook as a result of the wording of the proposed referendum as they already knew what the wording will be when McNeill made this commitment.
Douglas
Well said.
A huge gap is, as you say, now appearing between Labour in Westminster and Labour in Holyrood.
But even more importantly, and credit to you, a gap is now appearing between Labour and the media.
Keep up the good work.
The only thing I would say in addition to your article is that after Duncan McNeill's comments:
"No-one had any complaints about the decision, and we are now in a position where, as a group , we will not vote down any referendum bill that comes into the parliament "
They are committed to the referendum, in principle, regardless of the wording. They cannot get off the hook as a result of the wording of the proposed referendum as they already knew what the wording will be when McNeill made this commitment.
Douglas
Well said.
A huge gap is, as you say, now appearing between Labour in Westminster and Labour in Holyrood.
But even more importantly, and credit to you, a gap is now appearing between Labour and the media.
Keep up the good work.
The only thing I would say in addition to your article is that after Duncan McNeill's comments:
[quote]"No-one had any complaints about the decision, and we are now in a position where, [bold]as a group[/bold] , [bold]we will not vote down any referendum bill that comes into the parliament[/bold] "[/quote]
They are committed to the referendum, in principle, regardless of the wording. They cannot get off the hook as a result of the wording of the proposed referendum as they already knew what the wording will be when McNeill made this commitment.
Douglas
Well said.
A huge gap is, as you say, now appearing between Labour in Westminster and Labour in Holyrood.
But even more importantly, and credit to you, a gap is now appearing between Labour and the media.
Keep up the good work.
The only thing I would say in addition to your article is that after Duncan McNeill's comments:
"No-one had any complaints about the decision, and we are now in a position where, as a group , we will not vote down any referendum bill that comes into the parliament "
They are committed to the referendum, in principle, regardless of the wording. They cannot get off the hook as a result of the wording of the proposed referendum as they already knew what the wording will be when McNeill made this commitment.
[quote]"No-one had any complaints about the decision, and we are now in a position where, [bold]as a group[/bold] , we will [bold]not[/bold] vote down [bold]any[/bold] referendum bill that comes into the parliament "[/quote]
Acually, after that commitment, someone should introduce a bill for a referendum on abolishing the Labour Party.
"No-one had any complaints about the decision, and we are now in a position where, as a group , we will not vote down any referendum bill that comes into the parliament "
Acually, after that commitment, someone should introduce a bill for a referendum on abolishing the Labour Party.
Posted by: Peter Campbell at 8:10pm on Thu 8 May 08
For too long now, Labour voters (and many, many party members) have been denied the opportunity to express their support for Scottish independence. Now, with the Scottish party's decision to back a referendum on this fundamental question we have at last the possibility of separating party loyalty and support from the constitutional issue.
Whilst Wendy is implying that the vote in a referendum will be one in which they will back the Union, this isn't the only option for Labour voters or members. We can now vote for what we really believe in and help set this country on the track that those of us who campaigned long and hard for self-government throughout the 70s and 80s really ultimately want. A self-confident, equal and socially-just country with a decent health service, public services and an end to poverty. No longer will we have to keep waiting until the electorate South of the Border changes its Tory spots.
Demand the referendum and vote for independence.
Visit labour4independence.blogspot.com
For too long now, Labour voters (and many, many party members) have been denied the opportunity to express their support for Scottish independence. Now, with the Scottish party's decision to back a referendum on this fundamental question we have at last the possibility of separating party loyalty and support from the constitutional issue.
Whilst Wendy is implying that the vote in a referendum will be one in which they will back the Union, this isn't the only option for Labour voters or members. We can now vote for what we really believe in and help set this country on the track that those of us who campaigned long and hard for self-government throughout the 70s and 80s really ultimately want. A self-confident, equal and socially-just country with a decent health service, public services and an end to poverty. No longer will we have to keep waiting until the electorate South of the Border changes its Tory spots.
What are you doing looking at the wiki entry?
"Someone has been monkeying with the SNP's Wikipedia entry.
"The Scottish National Party (SNP) (Scottish Gaelic: Pārtaidh Nāiseanta na h-Alba) is a centre-left, Social democratic political party which campaigns for the destruction of the 1707 Union which created Great Britain, and the creation of a Scottish state heavily modelled on East Germany (DDR)."
I read this twice before I noticed the change,
"Someone has been monkeying with the SNP's Wikipedia entry.
"The Scottish National Party (SNP) (Scottish Gaelic: Pārtaidh Nāiseanta na h-Alba) is a centre-left, Social democratic political party which campaigns for the destruction of the 1707 Union which created Great Britain, and the creation of a Scottish state heavily modelled on Germany ."
Modern Germany is prosperous, INDEPENDENT country respected throughout the world, a strong member of the UN and NATO, and a valued member of the EU. It has a growing economy, a stable currency and a talented workforce. It provides health care and wide range of social programs to benefit its citizens and is a leader in environmental management and green energy production.
Most scots would be content if our country was managed in a similar way.
What are you doing looking at the wiki entry?
"Someone has been monkeying with the SNP's Wikipedia entry.
"The Scottish National Party (SNP) (Scottish Gaelic: Pārtaidh Nāiseanta na h-Alba) is a centre-left, Social democratic political party which campaigns for the destruction of the 1707 Union which created Great Britain, and the creation of a Scottish state heavily modelled on East Germany (DDR)."
I read this twice before I noticed the change,
"Someone has been monkeying with the SNP's Wikipedia entry.
"The Scottish National Party (SNP) (Scottish Gaelic: Pārtaidh Nāiseanta na h-Alba) is a centre-left, Social democratic political party which campaigns for the destruction of the 1707 Union which created Great Britain, and the creation of a Scottish state heavily modelled on Germany ."
Modern Germany is prosperous, INDEPENDENT country respected throughout the world, a strong member of the UN and NATO, and a valued member of the EU. It has a growing economy, a stable currency and a talented workforce. It provides health care and wide range of social programs to benefit its citizens and is a leader in environmental management and green energy production.
Most scots would be content if our country was managed in a similar way.
Posted by: george alexander at 6:33am on Fri 9 May 08
[quote]Salmond offers a Commons pact to Cameron[/quote]
Not so much a spoiler story but a blatant propoganda headline, actually if we're callng it as it is then your paper is producing lies as headlines.
Salmond offers a Commons pact to Cameron
Not so much a spoiler story but a blatant propoganda headline, actually if we're callng it as it is then your paper is producing lies as headlines.
Good blog Douglas - and I've not said that before. I really thought that you were becoming of more independent mind?
However, given the "Salmond loves Cameron" headline - on a story that says nothing of the kind, I'm just wondering if the mystical billionarie brother owners of the Herald actually write the headlines?
Slainte Mhor
Good blog Douglas - and I've not said that before. I really thought that you were becoming of more independent mind?
However, given the "Salmond loves Cameron" headline - on a story that says nothing of the kind, I'm just wondering if the mystical billionarie brother owners of the Herald actually write the headlines?
Slainte Mhor
[quote][bold]george alexander[/bold] wrote:
[quote]Salmond offers a Commons pact to Cameron[/quote] Not so much a spoiler story but a blatant propoganda headline, actually if we're callng it as it is then your paper is producing lies as headlines.[/quote] Dear oh dear ... remember Profumo's crime - not that he consorted with hures, but that he lied. Mr Fraser, your crime is not that you are a card-carrying member of the Labour Party. It is that you are lying.
If the headline is not yours and you disagree with it, then disown it. Get a spine!
george alexander wrote:
Salmond offers a Commons pact to Cameron
Not so much a spoiler story but a blatant propoganda headline, actually if we're callng it as it is then your paper is producing lies as headlines.
Dear oh dear ... remember Profumo's crime - not that he consorted with hures, but that he lied. Mr Fraser, your crime is not that you are a card-carrying member of the Labour Party. It is that you are lying.
If the headline is not yours and you disagree with it, then disown it. Get a spine!
[quote][bold]Astonished[/bold] wrote:
Mr Fraser - Has Gordon rewarded Alf, you and your wife with knghthoods for services to labour yet ? If he hasn't I think you all better ask him to hurry it up a bit .[/quote] here your not being fair to douglas there never mind alf and his wife. Douglas wife weans grandweans and his second cousin on his grannies side will probably be awarded knighthoods for the spinning labour hacks like douglas and alf are doing.
I have to ask douglas did you always aim to be a media propagandist when you took up journalism or did you just find yourself acheiving this effortlessly?
We readers of the herald all love how you diligently follow the journalistic code of ethics......................NOT.
Douglas if you insist on being a stranger to truth then the IN TRUTH you will become a stanger to yourself........................
Let me remind you of a truth you have become estranged from douglas
Members of the Society of Professional Journalists believe that public enlightenment is the forerunner of justice and the foundation of democracy. The duty of the journalist is to further those ends by seeking truth and providing a fair and comprehensive account of events and issues. Conscientious journalists from all media and specialties strive to serve the public with thoroughness and honesty. Professional integrity is the cornerstone of a journalist's credibility. Members of the Society share a dedication to ethical behavior and adopt this code to declare the Society's principles and standards of practice.
Astonished wrote:
Mr Fraser - Has Gordon rewarded Alf, you and your wife with knghthoods for services to labour yet ? If he hasn't I think you all better ask him to hurry it up a bit .
here your not being fair to douglas there never mind alf and his wife. Douglas wife weans grandweans and his second cousin on his grannies side will probably be awarded knighthoods for the spinning labour hacks like douglas and alf are doing.
I have to ask douglas did you always aim to be a media propagandist when you took up journalism or did you just find yourself acheiving this effortlessly?
We readers of the herald all love how you diligently follow the journalistic code of ethics......................NOT.
Douglas if you insist on being a stranger to truth then the IN TRUTH you will become a stanger to yourself........................
Let me remind you of a truth you have become estranged from douglas
Members of the Society of Professional Journalists believe that public enlightenment is the forerunner of justice and the foundation of democracy. The duty of the journalist is to further those ends by seeking truth and providing a fair and comprehensive account of events and issues. Conscientious journalists from all media and specialties strive to serve the public with thoroughness and honesty. Professional integrity is the cornerstone of a journalist's credibility. Members of the Society share a dedication to ethical behavior and adopt this code to declare the Society's principles and standards of practice.
[quote][bold]Astonished[/bold] wrote:
Mr Fraser - Has Gordon rewarded Alf, you and your wife with knghthoods for services to labour yet ? If he hasn't I think you all better ask him to hurry it up a bit .[/quote] here your not being fair to douglas there never mind alf and his wife. Douglas wife weans grandweans and his second cousin on his grannies side will probably be awarded knighthoods for the spinning labour hacks like douglas and alf are doing.
I have to ask douglas did you always aim to be a media propagandist when you took up journalism or did you just find yourself acheiving this effortlessly?
We readers of the herald all love how you diligently follow the journalistic code of ethics......................NOT.
Douglas if you insist on being a stranger to truth then the IN TRUTH you will become a stanger to yourself........................
Let me remind you of a truth you have become estranged from douglas
Members of the Society of Professional Journalists believe that public enlightenment is the forerunner of justice and the foundation of democracy. The duty of the journalist is to further those ends by seeking truth and providing a fair and comprehensive account of events and issues. Conscientious journalists from all media and specialties strive to serve the public with thoroughness and honesty. Professional integrity is the cornerstone of a journalist's credibility. Members of the Society share a dedication to ethical behavior and adopt this code to declare the Society's principles and standards of practice.
Astonished wrote:
Mr Fraser - Has Gordon rewarded Alf, you and your wife with knghthoods for services to labour yet ? If he hasn't I think you all better ask him to hurry it up a bit .
here your not being fair to douglas there never mind alf and his wife. Douglas wife weans grandweans and his second cousin on his grannies side will probably be awarded knighthoods for the spinning labour hacks like douglas and alf are doing.
I have to ask douglas did you always aim to be a media propagandist when you took up journalism or did you just find yourself acheiving this effortlessly?
We readers of the herald all love how you diligently follow the journalistic code of ethics......................NOT.
Douglas if you insist on being a stranger to truth then the IN TRUTH you will become a stanger to yourself........................
Let me remind you of a truth you have become estranged from douglas
Members of the Society of Professional Journalists believe that public enlightenment is the forerunner of justice and the foundation of democracy. The duty of the journalist is to further those ends by seeking truth and providing a fair and comprehensive account of events and issues. Conscientious journalists from all media and specialties strive to serve the public with thoroughness and honesty. Professional integrity is the cornerstone of a journalist's credibility. Members of the Society share a dedication to ethical behavior and adopt this code to declare the Society's principles and standards of practice.
I see Lord Forsyth is backing Windy on an early referendum.
So, Dougie, get typing.
I want to see big headlines in tomorrows issue saying
[bold]Conservatives offer a pact to Scottish Labour[/bold]
Put it on the front page and in big letters.
I see Lord Forsyth is backing Windy on an early referendum.
So, Dougie, get typing.
I want to see big headlines in tomorrows issue saying
Posted by: Karenisabitch at 2:20am on Sat 10 May 08
Iain Gray was indeed embarrassing on Newsnight - he seems to have adopted the Labourite habit of swiveling his eyes from side to side when asked an awkward question. Pauline McNeill does the same thing - is it something they teach them at Cringe day schools??
Miaoww?
Iain Gray was indeed embarrassing on Newsnight - he seems to have adopted the Labourite habit of swiveling his eyes from side to side when asked an awkward question. Pauline McNeill does the same thing - is it something they teach them at Cringe day schools??
well douglas are you still frantically clinging to your labour party card and clicking your heels saying i want to go back i want to go back.
Much like wendy is doing with her u turn on her u turn.
well douglas are you still frantically clinging to your labour party card and clicking your heels saying i want to go back i want to go back.
Much like wendy is doing with her u turn on her u turn.
oooo douglas i see the herald has asked for volunteers for redundancy. Are you leaving us yet?
Still not getting it that its your editorial policy thats losing you readers are you?
Calling your readers vermin obviously doesnt help much either does it.
Want to see how really low they ciruclation figures can go douglas if you keep up the labour propaganda?
Does this paper have any understanding of the loyalty of snp supporters. Does this newspaper understand that all snp supporters would go out and buy 10 copies of the herald if they changed their editorial policy of going easy on the labour party.
Herald decide either your a scottish newspaper or your not.
oooo douglas i see the herald has asked for volunteers for redundancy. Are you leaving us yet?
Still not getting it that its your editorial policy thats losing you readers are you?
Calling your readers vermin obviously doesnt help much either does it.
Want to see how really low they ciruclation figures can go douglas if you keep up the labour propaganda?
Does this paper have any understanding of the loyalty of snp supporters. Does this newspaper understand that all snp supporters would go out and buy 10 copies of the herald if they changed their editorial policy of going easy on the labour party.
Herald decide either your a scottish newspaper or your not.
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