
Glasgow East: Labour hit by Marshall revelation
Labour today refused to be drawn on claims the daughter of retiring Glasgow East MP David Marshall operated two private firms from the Marshall family home which also houses Mr Marshall's publicly-funded office.
Reports claimed Christina Marshall registered the property companies based at her father's home in March. The story comes just two days before the crucial Glasgow East by-election.
Scotland Office Minister David Cairns, who is managing Labour candidate Margaret Curran's campaign, said: "As far as we are concerned, David Marshall stood down as an MP on doctor's orders.
"Two doctors' letters said he wasn't fit to carry on, and we have accepted that."
Meanwhile the SNP today claimed to be making up ground today as the by-election reached its closing stages.
Party deputy leader Nicola Sturgeon said voters were switching from Labour to her party and the SNP was feeling "extremely optimistic".
"Our support is strong and motivated and it's growing by the day," she told BBC Radio Scotland's Good Morning Scotland programme.
"We detect in Glasgow East a very strong mood to send a message to Labour - a message that says people are very unhappy with a London Labour Government that is deeply out of touch and is doing absolutely nothing to help individuals with the rising cost of living."
And she claimed: "This is a very close-run election and all of the movement is towards the SNP."
Asked if her party would win, she said: "We are very optimistic and we certainly intend to win."
Ms Sturgeon also defended her party's plans for a local income tax to replace the council tax.
A joint report by the Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy will today reportedly warn that the SNP's plans for a 3p rate of local income tax to replace the council tax will create a £742 million deficit.
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Ms Sturgeon said the report assumed that Scotland would no longer receive the council tax benefit, which would be an "outrageous and unwarranted" state of affairs, and it also ignored extra central government investment.
SNP candidate John Mason will be joined by celebrity supporters and First Minister Alex Salmond.
Braveheart actor James Cosmo and comedienne Elaine C Smith will boost the party's profile with a shopping centre visit.
Labour's campaign today included a visit to a hi-tech employer in Glasgow East with the aim of promoting a positive vision of the area.
Candidate Margaret Curran said: "I will never, ever talk the east end down.
"The people in this community are sick and tired of being talked down - from the Nationalists comparing the area to the Gaza Strip to sneering Tory commentators deliberately ignoring the improvements of recent years.
"Nowhere is this more true than in the case of employment in the area, where local employers are bringing high-skilled jobs to the east end.
"What we need to do is get more people off benefits and into work at places like the one I am visiting today."
Tory activists will canvass voters on the cost of living and crime, while reinforcing their message to reject separatism.
Scottish Tory leader Annabel Goldie said her party was making sure voters realised they did not have to settle for "the failure of Labour or the risk of the SNP".
She also argued that the SNP was soft on law and order.
"The Scottish Government under the SNP does not want to grip the thistle and commit to the new prisons we need," she told Good Morning Scotland.
Liberal Democrat candidate Ian Robertson has cancelled all campaigning activity this morning due to a family emergency.
He had planned to join activists going door-to-door in the constituency.
His spokesman would not comment on the nature of the family emergency.
Voters will go to the polls on Thursday in a constituency made vacant by the resignation of Mr Marshall.
Labour is defending a majority of 13,507 over the SNP.
SNP claims of a movement of voters towards it was rejected by Labour, which said the reverse was happening.
Ms Curran's campaign took her to Walker Precision Engineering, which employs 126 people developing and producing machines to meet rising world demand for biometric passports.
The visit was intended to counter the impression of the east end as a depressing and run-down area.
Ms Curran said: "I think there has been a bit of a shift towards Labour.
"I think the decisive change in the last week has been the need for someone to articulate the strengths of the east end of Glasgow and stand up for it when it is required."
Labour has also distributed thousands of personalised messages to voters who have promised the party their support.
Each message, resembling a page from a ring binder notebook, carries the name and address of the intended recipient and a localised message.
Scotland Office Minister David Cairns, managing Labour's campaign, said the image of Glasgow's east end had become a huge issue in the campaign.
"People are sick of how it is being presented on the TV news, and on the media," he said.
He went on: "They are also sick of the collusion between the SNP and the Tories to pretend that nothing has happened in this area and that nothing is getting better when there are nine new primaries, three more on the way, and two new secondary schools covering the constituency."
And he said: "The way the area has been presented as the Gaza Strip all the way through has really got people's backs up."
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Posted by: Deasún, Glasgow on 12:47pm Tue 22 Jul 08
Well, well, well, the truth is slowly coming out. No mention of £500,000 expenses though...
Well, well, well, the truth is slowly coming out. No mention of £500,000 expenses though...
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 12:50pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote]Scotland Office Minister David Cairns, who is managing Labour candidate Margaret Curran's campaign, said: "As far as we are concerned, [bold]David Marshall stood down as an MP on doctor's orders[/bold] .[/quote] The fact that the Dr No was sent by Labour sporting a double-bore shot gun had nothing to do with Marshall's subsequent sudden illness.
Scotland Office Minister David Cairns, who is managing Labour candidate Margaret Curran's campaign, said: "As far as we are concerned, David Marshall stood down as an MP on doctor's orders .
The fact that the Dr No was sent by Labour sporting a double-bore shot gun had nothing to do with Marshall's subsequent sudden illness.
Posted by: subrosa on 12:51pm Tue 22 Jul 08
They had to acknowledge this as the Sun exposed it today. Someone posted that information on another thread early this morning.
They had to acknowledge this as the Sun exposed it today. Someone posted that information on another thread early this morning.
Posted by: george alexander, north lanarkshire on 12:51pm Tue 22 Jul 08
Is this the same daughter that was involved in 'Lobbygate' in 1999?
It seems that the Marshalls are the personification of all that is wrong with Scottish and indeed U.K. Labour.
This story should be front page news and will hopefully be covered by Michael Crow tonight when he grills the candidates. It will be interesting to see how the BBC treat this revelation, that is if they deign to cover it.
Good to see Cairns squirming:
[quote]"As far as we are concerned, David Marshall stood down as an MP on doctor's orders". "Two doctors' letters said he wasn't fit to carry on, and we have accepted that."[/quote]
Yes David, we know he is ill but what about the allegations [bold]whilst[/bold] he was a sitting Labour MP?
There are probably a lot more than two doctors saying that Marshall wasn't fit to be an MP !!
[bold]IGNORE THE TROLLS ......... THAT IS IF THEY ACTUALLY APPEAR ON THIS ARTICLE[/bold]
Is this the same daughter that was involved in 'Lobbygate' in 1999?
It seems that the Marshalls are the personification of all that is wrong with Scottish and indeed U.K. Labour.
This story should be front page news and will hopefully be covered by Michael Crow tonight when he grills the candidates. It will be interesting to see how the BBC treat this revelation, that is if they deign to cover it.
Good to see Cairns squirming:
"As far as we are concerned, David Marshall stood down as an MP on doctor's orders". "Two doctors' letters said he wasn't fit to carry on, and we have accepted that."
Yes David, we know he is ill but what about the allegations
whilst he was a sitting Labour MP?
There are probably a lot more than two doctors saying that Marshall wasn't fit to be an MP !!
IGNORE THE TROLLS ......... THAT IS IF THEY ACTUALLY APPEAR ON THIS ARTICLE Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 12:51pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[bold][quote]Reports claimed Christina Marshall registered the property companies based at her father's home in March. The story comes just two days before the crucial Glasgow East by-election.[/quote][/bold]
Reports claimed Christina Marshall registered the property companies based at her father's home in March. The story comes just two days before the crucial Glasgow East by-election.
Posted by: scappaflow, RoS on 12:52pm Tue 22 Jul 08
Hmmm... Labour MP in expenses scandal!
When will the madness end.
Hmmm... Labour MP in expenses scandal!
When will the madness end.
Posted by: Scunnert, Travelling in Nihlon on 12:55pm Tue 22 Jul 08
What should have been an article exposing more labour corruption is given over to Curran to slag off the SNP. The Scottish School of Journalism?
What should have been an article exposing more labour corruption is given over to Curran to slag off the SNP. The Scottish School of Journalism?
Posted by: fiferjohn, benbecula on 12:55pm Tue 22 Jul 08
because he has stood down then the issuse has gone away.
another labour mp that has stolen taxpayers money and got away with it.
when are we going to stand up and say no more these people who think they can do what ever they what.
because he has stood down then the issuse has gone away.
another labour mp that has stolen taxpayers money and got away with it.
when are we going to stand up and say no more these people who think they can do what ever they what.
Posted by: ditchgazza on 12:56pm Tue 22 Jul 08
REUTERS
Karadzic captured but Marshall still at large.
End of message.
REUTERS
Karadzic captured but Marshall still at large.
End of message.
Posted by: Wilhelm on 12:58pm Tue 22 Jul 08
George Alexander says
''IGNORE THE TROLLS''
I get the message, son . Im not bloody deaf.
George Alexander says
''IGNORE THE TROLLS''
I get the message, son . Im not bloody deaf.
Posted by: Luigi, Aberdeen on 1:02pm Tue 22 Jul 08
I hope the eastenders realise, in time, why Marshall suddenly took a sickie. Apart from wallowing around, with his snout in thre trough, what exactly did this opportunist do for the oppressed people of Glasgow East?
The media have tried hard, during the past month, to keep this out of sight and mind, but it is begining to seep outnow - the trough is leaking and it smells bad!
I hope the eastenders realise, in time, why Marshall suddenly took a sickie. Apart from wallowing around, with his snout in thre trough, what exactly did this opportunist do for the oppressed people of Glasgow East?
The media have tried hard, during the past month, to keep this out of sight and mind, but it is begining to seep outnow - the trough is leaking and it smells bad!
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 1:03pm Tue 22 Jul 08
I suspect the media have actually been holding back on this, wait and see the full expose tomorrow.....
Labour are sunk
I suspect the media have actually been holding back on this, wait and see the full expose tomorrow.....
Labour are sunk
Posted by: Luigi, Aberdeen on 1:04pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Los Angeles[/bold] wrote:
[quote]Scotland Office Minister David Cairns, who is managing Labour candidate Margaret Curran's campaign, said: "As far as we are concerned, [bold]David Marshall stood down as an MP on doctor's orders[/bold] .[/quote] The fact that the Dr No was sent by Labour sporting a double-bore shot gun had nothing to do with Marshall's subsequent sudden illness. [/quote] LoL - feed him to the pirranas.
Los Angeles wrote:
Scotland Office Minister David Cairns, who is managing Labour candidate Margaret Curran's campaign, said: "As far as we are concerned, David Marshall stood down as an MP on doctor's orders .
The fact that the Dr No was sent by Labour sporting a double-bore shot gun had nothing to do with Marshall's subsequent sudden illness.
LoL - feed him to the pirranas.
Posted by: neil robertson, Dundee, Scotland on 1:05pm Tue 22 Jul 08
It was kind of Gordon Brewer to help the Green candidate define the concept of a citizen's income on last night's Newsnight Scotland for
Glasgow East. Just a shame that the SNP was not invited to share
the discussion of Labour's Tory plans for welfare reform in studio
debate as well. The guy from The Wise Group was of course Mr
Laurie Russell - friend of Margaret Curran - who was on Labour
candidate lists in 1998 when he tried to win a Labour nomination.
Wise Group will no doubt also be exercising it's 'right to bid' for a
slice of James Purnell's dosh from DWP will it Mr Russell? Thirty
pieces of silver won't go very far however if we get independence!
It was kind of Gordon Brewer to help the Green candidate define the concept of a citizen's income on last night's Newsnight Scotland for
Glasgow East. Just a shame that the SNP was not invited to share
the discussion of Labour's Tory plans for welfare reform in studio
debate as well. The guy from The Wise Group was of course Mr
Laurie Russell - friend of Margaret Curran - who was on Labour
candidate lists in 1998 when he tried to win a Labour nomination.
Wise Group will no doubt also be exercising it's 'right to bid' for a
slice of James Purnell's dosh from DWP will it Mr Russell? Thirty
pieces of silver won't go very far however if we get independence!
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 1:08pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote]Braveheart actor James Cosmo[/quote]
Cosmo has starred in better films than Braveheart.
Highly Recommended
[quote]To end ALL Wars[/quote]
[italic]An autobiography of Ernest Gordon of the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders and recounts the experiences of faith and hope of the men held in a Japanese prisoner of war labour camp, building the Burma Railway during the last three and a half years of World War II.[/italic]
Braveheart actor James Cosmo
Cosmo has starred in better films than Braveheart.
Highly Recommended
To end ALL Wars
An autobiography of Ernest Gordon of the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders and recounts the experiences of faith and hope of the men held in a Japanese prisoner of war labour camp, building the Burma Railway during the last three and a half years of World War II.
Posted by: Luigi, Aberdeen on 1:08pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Wardog[/bold] wrote:
I suspect the media have actually been holding back on this, wait and see the full expose tomorrow..... Labour are sunk [/quote] May be too late to have much effect though, Wardog. These exposes usually take a few days to sink in. People like to have a rant and weigh the available evidence etc before deciding. This is why the Sun's hangman's noose image didn't work in time against the SNP last May.
The eastenders may give him the benefit of the doubt.
Wardog wrote:
I suspect the media have actually been holding back on this, wait and see the full expose tomorrow..... Labour are sunk
May be too late to have much effect though, Wardog. These exposes usually take a few days to sink in. People like to have a rant and weigh the available evidence etc before deciding. This is why the Sun's hangman's noose image didn't work in time against the SNP last May.
The eastenders may give him the benefit of the doubt.
Posted by: Ronald, Glasgow on 1:09pm Tue 22 Jul 08
I can't believe it ! NEW LABOUR involved in corruption and sleze ?
NEVER !!
Because we know - because they told us so that SLAB are now all firey socialists.
And we know that they all care selflessly for those vunerable two year olds, the poor - but not the unemployed, the needy - but not the disabled, and the dispossed -but not asylum seekers, cos they need to be incarcerated !
So, NEW LABOUR CYBERPIMPS, Get your copy of the SUN - your "newspaper" off choice, and onwards to a GLORIOUS VICTORY on Thursday ?
Hahhahhahahhahahhaha
hha
And please people, don't be to hard on those "fearless seekers after truth" at the Herald . After all, they're trying their best !
I can't believe it ! NEW LABOUR involved in corruption and sleze ?
NEVER !!
Because we know - because they told us so that SLAB are now all firey socialists.
And we know that they all care selflessly for those vunerable two year olds, the poor - but not the unemployed, the needy - but not the disabled, and the dispossed -but not asylum seekers, cos they need to be incarcerated !
So, NEW LABOUR CYBERPIMPS, Get your copy of the SUN - your "newspaper" off choice, and onwards to a GLORIOUS VICTORY on Thursday ?
Hahhahhahahhahahhaha
hha
And please people, don't be to hard on those "fearless seekers after truth" at the Herald . After all, they're trying their best !
Posted by: Victor Smith on 1:09pm Tue 22 Jul 08
It was interesting to see the picture of Gordon Brown, wearing a flack-jacket, in a helicopter - with 'a killing weapon' - smiling like a young kid playing with a very new and 'really expensive’ but dangerous toy - which I very much doubt he knew much about!!
I know he stated that Prime Ministers don't normally / usually attend local elections - although he was contradicted many times about that! Missing some 'homework Gordon, not reading the small print any more?
He seems quite good at mixing up fact and fiction - with a side line for 'breaking promises' which, no doubt, he sees as a 'bonus' for the electorate - under his careful and ever watchful eye!!
If he decides to visit Glasgow East, hopefully he will not go to the enormous expense of the Helicopter - or need the 'killing weapon!' However, it would be good advice to wear the 'Flack- jacket', as there is likely to be much 'Flack' flying about like he has never seen before!!
And rightly so!
It was interesting to see the picture of Gordon Brown, wearing a flack-jacket, in a helicopter - with 'a killing weapon' - smiling like a young kid playing with a very new and 'really expensive’ but dangerous toy - which I very much doubt he knew much about!!
I know he stated that Prime Ministers don't normally / usually attend local elections - although he was contradicted many times about that! Missing some 'homework Gordon, not reading the small print any more?
He seems quite good at mixing up fact and fiction - with a side line for 'breaking promises' which, no doubt, he sees as a 'bonus' for the electorate - under his careful and ever watchful eye!!
If he decides to visit Glasgow East, hopefully he will not go to the enormous expense of the Helicopter - or need the 'killing weapon!' However, it would be good advice to wear the 'Flack- jacket', as there is likely to be much 'Flack' flying about like he has never seen before!!
And rightly so!
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 1:09pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Luigi[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Wardog[/bold] wrote:
I suspect the media have actually been holding back on this, wait and see the full expose tomorrow..... Labour are sunk [/quote] May be too late to have much effect though, Wardog. These exposes usually take a few days to sink in. People like to have a rant and weigh the available evidence etc before deciding. This is why the Sun's hangman's noose image didn't work in time against the SNP last May.
The eastenders may give him the benefit of the doubt.[/quote]
Aye granted, the innuendo might more damaging that the details though......
How sick will the voters feel if they give keep Labour and then the full extent of the corruption surfaces....
Luigi wrote:
Wardog wrote:
I suspect the media have actually been holding back on this, wait and see the full expose tomorrow..... Labour are sunk
May be too late to have much effect though, Wardog. These exposes usually take a few days to sink in. People like to have a rant and weigh the available evidence etc before deciding. This is why the Sun's hangman's noose image didn't work in time against the SNP last May.
The eastenders may give him the benefit of the doubt.
Aye granted, the innuendo might more damaging that the details though......
How sick will the voters feel if they give keep Labour and then the full extent of the corruption surfaces....
Posted by: baffled, scotland on 1:10pm Tue 22 Jul 08
Would any of the cyber gnats wish to comment on the fact that Fergus Ewing was his mother's secretary,and paid by the taxpayer, while she was an MEP and he was a student?
Would any of the cyber gnats wish to comment on the fact that Fergus Ewing was his mother's secretary,and paid by the taxpayer, while she was an MEP and he was a student?
Posted by: bannatyne, Glasgow on 1:10pm Tue 22 Jul 08
http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/news/article-
1037055/Olympics-chi
efs-pay-1-7million-b
onuses-despite-risin
g-costs.html
If anyone wonders where the money is going take a look at this. Noses in the trough and what does the east end get.........
http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/news/article-
1037055/Olympics-chi
efs-pay-1-7million-b
onuses-despite-risin
g-costs.html
If anyone wonders where the money is going take a look at this. Noses in the trough and what does the east end get.........
Posted by: Vote for Scotlands Future, Vote for the SNP on 1:14pm Tue 22 Jul 08
Well it's about time he was investigated. It's called Theft-by-Expenses. If this occuredin a private firm he would have been investigated and subject to prosecution for Fraud.
[quote]Scotland Office Minister David Cairns, who is managing Labour candidate Margaret Curran's campaign, said: "As far as we are concerned, David Marshall stood down as an MP on doctor's orders.[/quote] He right - [bold]DOCTOR BROWN[/bold]
[quote]"Two doctors' letters said he wasn't fit to carry on......."[/quote] Two doctors - and the majority of the voting public.
Well it's about time he was investigated. It's called Theft-by-Expenses. If this occuredin a private firm he would have been investigated and subject to prosecution for Fraud.
Scotland Office Minister David Cairns, who is managing Labour candidate Margaret Curran's campaign, said: "As far as we are concerned, David Marshall stood down as an MP on doctor's orders.
He right -
DOCTOR BROWN
"Two doctors' letters said he wasn't fit to carry on......."
Two doctors - and the majority of the voting public.
Posted by: Victor Smith on 1:17pm Tue 22 Jul 08
The best advice to the Glasgow Eastenders voters, from what I read about their situatio, would be:-
Think not what the Politicians say they will / can do for you in the future (at best only weak promises and / or possibly lies!)- but think, more positively at what 'They Have Done To You In The Past!
But don't forget it's all a gamble, and it's your money they are 'always' playing with!!!
The best advice to the Glasgow Eastenders voters, from what I read about their situatio, would be:-
Think not what the Politicians say they will / can do for you in the future (at best only weak promises and / or possibly lies!)- but think, more positively at what 'They Have Done To You In The Past!
But don't forget it's all a gamble, and it's your money they are 'always' playing with!!!
Posted by: fiferjohn, benbecula on 1:17pm Tue 22 Jul 08
people he was suppose to help get two fingers and he robs the people blind should rename him king john.
people he was suppose to help get two fingers and he robs the people blind should rename him king john.
Posted by: Luigi, Aberdeen on 1:19pm Tue 22 Jul 08
It's getting close. The labourites have entered the cold sweat phase. A recount may be on the cards.
[bold]C'mon Glasgow, cross the Rubicon![/bold]
Give Broon the kicking he deserves.
It's getting close. The labourites have entered the cold sweat phase. A recount may be on the cards.
C'mon Glasgow, cross the Rubicon!
Give Broon the kicking he deserves.
Posted by: Vote for Scotlands Future, Vote for the SNP on 1:20pm Tue 22 Jul 08
Let me guess. James Cosmo and Elaine C. Smith have [bold]NEVER[/bold] expressed support for the Union in interviews with the media. I think we should get some Detective Inspector to investigate this.
Let me guess. James Cosmo and Elaine C. Smith have
NEVER expressed support for the Union in interviews with the media. I think we should get some Detective Inspector to investigate this.
Posted by: Brian Blessed, Glasgow on 1:20pm Tue 22 Jul 08
Of course, under the New Tartan Tories proposals to privatise welfare slave labour, Mr Marshall would be ineligible for benefits and would no doubt have to keep working. After all...
[quote]"Two doctors' letters said he wasn't fit to carry on......."[/quote]
Sadly they weren't DWP doctors. Back to work you scrounging bag of filth, Marshall!
Of course, under the New Tartan Tories proposals to privatise welfare slave labour, Mr Marshall would be ineligible for benefits and would no doubt have to keep working. After all...
"Two doctors' letters said he wasn't fit to carry on......."
Sadly they weren't DWP doctors. Back to work you scrounging bag of filth, Marshall!
Posted by: bannatyne, Glasgow on 1:21pm Tue 22 Jul 08
If the nats win this seat on Friday then there will be a lot of very very jittery labour MPs and MSPs. If one of the safest seats in the country can fall
If the nats win this seat on Friday then there will be a lot of very very jittery labour MPs and MSPs. If one of the safest seats in the country can fall
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 1:21pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]baffled[/bold] wrote:
Would any of the cyber gnats wish to comment on the fact that Fergus Ewing was his mother's secretary,and paid by the taxpayer, while she was an MEP and he was a student?[/quote]
Why aren't the media reporting this.
It's an outrage.... must be a gnat media conspiracy eh baffled
Or it could just be you spouting drivel as usual.
Back it up, where's your proof.
baffled wrote:
Would any of the cyber gnats wish to comment on the fact that Fergus Ewing was his mother's secretary,and paid by the taxpayer, while she was an MEP and he was a student?
Why aren't the media reporting this.
It's an outrage.... must be a gnat media conspiracy eh baffled
Or it could just be you spouting drivel as usual.
Back it up, where's your proof.
Posted by: ditchgazza on 1:22pm Tue 22 Jul 08
Biffo, were you born thick or did you have to work at it?
Biffo, were you born thick or did you have to work at it?
Posted by: Vote for Scotlands Future, Vote for the SNP on 1:23pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Brian Blessed[/bold] wrote:
Of course, under the New Tartan Tories proposals to privatise welfare slave labour, Mr Marshall would be ineligible for benefits and would no doubt have to keep working. After all...
[quote]"Two doctors' letters said he wasn't fit to carry on......."[/quote]
Sadly they weren't DWP doctors. Back to work you scrounging bag of filth, Marshall![/quote] Ha, Ha, Ha - Perfect.
Brian Blessed wrote:
Of course, under the New Tartan Tories proposals to privatise welfare slave labour, Mr Marshall would be ineligible for benefits and would no doubt have to keep working. After all...
"Two doctors' letters said he wasn't fit to carry on......."
Sadly they weren't DWP doctors. Back to work you scrounging bag of filth, Marshall!
Ha, Ha, Ha - Perfect.
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 1:24pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]ditchgazza[/bold] wrote:
Biffo, were you born thick or did you have to work at it?[/quote]
He's a donkey..... caught him on the other story bleating[bold] 'Hee Haw'[/bold]
ditchgazza wrote:
Biffo, were you born thick or did you have to work at it?
He's a donkey..... caught him on the other story bleating
'Hee Haw'
Posted by: Wallace, Perth on 1:24pm Tue 22 Jul 08
Baffled wrote - [quote]Would any of the cyber gnats wish to comment on the fact that Fergus Ewing was his mother's secretary,and paid by the taxpayer, while she was an MEP and he was a student?[/quote]
Yes, I'll say without equivocation that if this was the case, then it was just as wrong and culpable as Tory MP Conway's scam on behalf of his two student sons.
Corruption and fraudulent expenses claims by MP's, MSP's or MEP's are wrong and should be condemned and appropriately punished, no matter which political party the perpetrator belongs to.
Now, Baffled, let's have your take on Marshall and his trough snuffling family, if you please.
Baffled wrote -
Would any of the cyber gnats wish to comment on the fact that Fergus Ewing was his mother's secretary,and paid by the taxpayer, while she was an MEP and he was a student?
Yes, I'll say without equivocation that if this was the case, then it was just as wrong and culpable as Tory MP Conway's scam on behalf of his two student sons.
Corruption and fraudulent expenses claims by MP's, MSP's or MEP's are wrong and should be condemned and appropriately punished, no matter which political party the perpetrator belongs to.
Now, Baffled, let's have your take on Marshall and his trough snuffling family, if you please.
Posted by: bannatyne, Glasgow on 1:24pm Tue 22 Jul 08
when are they press going to report that curren was kissing war heroes who turn out to be labour activists.
when are they press going to report that curren was kissing war heroes who turn out to be labour activists.
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 1:24pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Brian Blessed[/bold] wrote:
Of course, under the New Tartan Tories proposals to privatise welfare slave labour, Mr Marshall would be ineligible for benefits and would no doubt have to keep working. After all...
[quote]"Two doctors' letters said he wasn't fit to carry on......."[/quote]
Sadly they weren't DWP doctors. Back to work you scrounging bag of filth, Marshall![/quote]
[italic]Superb[/italic]
Brian Blessed wrote:
Of course, under the New Tartan Tories proposals to privatise welfare slave labour, Mr Marshall would be ineligible for benefits and would no doubt have to keep working. After all...
"Two doctors' letters said he wasn't fit to carry on......."
Sadly they weren't DWP doctors. Back to work you scrounging bag of filth, Marshall!
Superb Posted by: Samoyed, Costa del Menie on 1:25pm Tue 22 Jul 08
Where in the Sun is this new???
Where in the Sun is this new???
Posted by: Alex Porter, TROLL PATROL on 1:27pm Tue 22 Jul 08
You're gonnie love this:
http://tinyurl.com/5
sgbb3
Evidence that the Progressive Scottish Opinion poll was well dodgy!
You're gonnie love this:
http://tinyurl.com/5
sgbb3
Evidence that the Progressive Scottish Opinion poll was well dodgy!
Posted by: bannatyne, Glasgow on 1:28pm Tue 22 Jul 08
I suppose Marshall being "medically retired" and I use that term loosley is nu lab spin for being caught with your hand in the till
I suppose Marshall being "medically retired" and I use that term loosley is nu lab spin for being caught with your hand in the till
Posted by: Deasún, Glasgow on 1:30pm Tue 22 Jul 08
"“Would any of the cyber gnats wish to comment on the fact that Fergus Ewing was his mother's secretary, and paid by the taxpayer, while she was an MEP and he was a student?"
And? Did he actually produce any work? If so, I don't see you point, apart from trying spread a little sleaze, of course. More to the point, this article does not allege that David Marshall's daughter worked as his secretary rather that she "operated two private firms from the Marshall family home which also houses Mr Marshall's publicly-funded office."
If you have a specific allegation concerning Fergus Ewing, make it.
"“Would any of the cyber gnats wish to comment on the fact that Fergus Ewing was his mother's secretary, and paid by the taxpayer, while she was an MEP and he was a student?"
And? Did he actually produce any work? If so, I don't see you point, apart from trying spread a little sleaze, of course. More to the point, this article does not allege that David Marshall's daughter worked as his secretary rather that she "operated two private firms from the Marshall family home which also houses Mr Marshall's publicly-funded office."
If you have a specific allegation concerning Fergus Ewing, make it.
Posted by: Silent Hunter, Glasgow on 1:34pm Tue 22 Jul 08
Why has 'what Margaret Curran thinks,,,,' been given so much space in this article?
This is hardly 'balanced' reporting now is it!
I do hope that the SNP make a big issue about the former Labour MP & his families 'troughing' and also tell the voters of Glasgow East about the Labour reforms to benefits which will have a direct impact upon them when it is piloted in Glasgow.
A fact that Labour have tried to 'cover up' until after the by-election.
Why has 'what Margaret Curran thinks,,,,' been given so much space in this article?
This is hardly 'balanced' reporting now is it!
I do hope that the SNP make a big issue about the former Labour MP & his families 'troughing' and also tell the voters of Glasgow East about the Labour reforms to benefits which will have a direct impact upon them when it is piloted in Glasgow.
A fact that Labour have tried to 'cover up' until after the by-election.
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 1:35pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Deasún[/bold] wrote:
"“Would any of the cyber gnats wish to comment on the fact that Fergus Ewing was his mother's secretary, and paid by the taxpayer, while she was an MEP and he was a student?"
And? Did he actually produce any work? If so, I don't see you point, apart from trying spread a little sleaze, of course. More to the point, this article does not allege that David Marshall's daughter worked as his secretary rather that she "operated two private firms from the Marshall family home which also houses Mr Marshall's publicly-funded office."
If you have a specific allegation concerning Fergus Ewing, make it.
[/quote]
Baffled is incapable of being specific, he operates at the level of implication and innuendo....
This is Baffled after his erm ..... 'debates'......
[italic]topratings.files.wor
dpress.com/2007/08/d
onkey-pulling-cart.j
pg[/italic]
Deasún wrote:
"“Would any of the cyber gnats wish to comment on the fact that Fergus Ewing was his mother's secretary, and paid by the taxpayer, while she was an MEP and he was a student?"
And? Did he actually produce any work? If so, I don't see you point, apart from trying spread a little sleaze, of course. More to the point, this article does not allege that David Marshall's daughter worked as his secretary rather that she "operated two private firms from the Marshall family home which also houses Mr Marshall's publicly-funded office."
If you have a specific allegation concerning Fergus Ewing, make it.
Baffled is incapable of being specific, he operates at the level of implication and innuendo....
This is Baffled after his erm ..... 'debates'......
topratings.files.wor
dpress.com/2007/08/d
onkey-pulling-cart.j
pg
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 1:39pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Silent Hunter[/bold] wrote:
Why has 'what Margaret Curran thinks,,,,' been given so much space in this article?
This is hardly 'balanced' reporting now is it!
I do hope that the SNP make a big issue about the former Labour MP & his families 'troughing' and also tell the voters of Glasgow East about the Labour reforms to benefits which will have a direct impact upon them when it is piloted in Glasgow.
A fact that Labour have tried to 'cover up' until after the by-election.[/quote]
Politics Now Show on tonight...... with all four candidates
It would be remiss of Michael Crow not to ask a question regarding this...
Silent Hunter wrote:
Why has 'what Margaret Curran thinks,,,,' been given so much space in this article?
This is hardly 'balanced' reporting now is it!
I do hope that the SNP make a big issue about the former Labour MP & his families 'troughing' and also tell the voters of Glasgow East about the Labour reforms to benefits which will have a direct impact upon them when it is piloted in Glasgow.
A fact that Labour have tried to 'cover up' until after the by-election.
Politics Now Show on tonight...... with all four candidates
It would be remiss of Michael Crow not to ask a question regarding this...
Posted by: Deasún, Glasgow on 1:40pm Tue 22 Jul 08
E-aw,e-aw, e-aways says that! :-) The weight of his arguement is obviously too much of a burden.
E-aw,e-aw, e-aways says that! :-) The weight of his arguement is obviously too much of a burden.
Posted by: indyleith, edinburgh on 1:40pm Tue 22 Jul 08
Cairns wants New Liebour's Marshall's expenses to disappear. Cairns knows full well this one was fiddling expenses when he was in the job. What will the voters of Glasgow East make of their ex New Liebour mp sticking two fingers up to them? The Herald had to report is as the Sun newspaper exposed it today. Hardly investigative or informative journalism from the Herald, but quite deliberate because if the truth was out the voters would give their verdict.
As for Curran saying she will never talk the East End down. No Margaret, your New Liebour party will just run it down as per usual. You voted against the abolition of prescription charges, joined with the Tories to try and stop the SNP freezing the council tax and your party has no policies to help anyone exposed to crippling fuel bills, soaring petrol and food prices, then your party wants them to work for incapacity benefit , Your party has taxed us to death. your Liebour party's record is shameful, is that really the best you can do?
The choice is simple, stay stuck in a rut with New Liebour the new Tories or get real change and vote for the SNP. I hope the voters boot them out.
Cairns wants New Liebour's Marshall's expenses to disappear. Cairns knows full well this one was fiddling expenses when he was in the job. What will the voters of Glasgow East make of their ex New Liebour mp sticking two fingers up to them? The Herald had to report is as the Sun newspaper exposed it today. Hardly investigative or informative journalism from the Herald, but quite deliberate because if the truth was out the voters would give their verdict.
As for Curran saying she will never talk the East End down. No Margaret, your New Liebour party will just run it down as per usual. You voted against the abolition of prescription charges, joined with the Tories to try and stop the SNP freezing the council tax and your party has no policies to help anyone exposed to crippling fuel bills, soaring petrol and food prices, then your party wants them to work for incapacity benefit , Your party has taxed us to death. your Liebour party's record is shameful, is that really the best you can do?
The choice is simple, stay stuck in a rut with New Liebour the new Tories or get real change and vote for the SNP. I hope the voters boot them out.
Posted by: neil robertson, Dundee, Scotland on 1:48pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]neil robertson[/bold] wrote:
It was kind of Gordon Brewer to help the Green candidate define the concept of a citizen's income on last night's Newsnight Scotland for Glasgow East. Just a shame that the SNP was not invited to share the discussion of Labour's Tory plans for welfare reform in studio debate as well. The guy from The Wise Group was of course Mr Laurie Russell - friend of Margaret Curran - who was on Labour candidate lists in 1998 when he tried to win a Labour nomination. Wise Group will no doubt also be exercising it's 'right to bid' for a slice of James Purnell's dosh from DWP will it Mr Russell? Thirty pieces of silver won't go very far however if we get independence![/quote] I think the interviewer last night was actually Glenn Campbell! What I found surprising was Laurie Russell's response to the question on
the compulsory nature of Labour's welfare plans. He answered: 'Of course, there is a compulsory element to the current programmes'
which is of course quite true - but as a spokesperson for The Wise
Group I would have expected a slightly more robust reaction. Alan
Sinclair - who actually set up The Wise Group - was always very
adamant when he used to come to our part of Chief Executive's
in Strathclyde Region (the economic bit) that compulsion was
likely to be counterproductive and I even arranged to take him
along to Bill Hughes, then Tory Party Chair in Scotland, who to
his credit, then made exactly the same point to Mrs Thatcher. It
is a measure perhaps of how far Labour has travelled that they
are the Government at Westminister now pushing forced labour.
Two other very important contributions in the clips before that Newsnight studio discussion should also not be forgotten. It
was former Justice Minister and Acting Scottish First Minister
Jim Wallace of the Liberal Democrats who commented on the inappropriateness of using terms like 'community service' that
are normally associated with the penal system in Scotland when
describing the new burdens to be imposed on those claiming incapacity benefit. That sentiment was also being reflected in
the spread of 'vox pop' comments from ordinary East Enders -
which I have to say gave me great confidence for Thursday too.
The other key input came from one of these street interviewers with someone who highlighted the impact on carers - many of whom he suggested were on incapacity benefit themselves as carer allowance was too bureaucratic to access easily and thus
there would be a double impace on those on IB and carers
of those on IB. The Labour Party should crawl away in shame.
neil robertson wrote:
It was kind of Gordon Brewer to help the Green candidate define the concept of a citizen's income on last night's Newsnight Scotland for Glasgow East. Just a shame that the SNP was not invited to share the discussion of Labour's Tory plans for welfare reform in studio debate as well. The guy from The Wise Group was of course Mr Laurie Russell - friend of Margaret Curran - who was on Labour candidate lists in 1998 when he tried to win a Labour nomination. Wise Group will no doubt also be exercising it's 'right to bid' for a slice of James Purnell's dosh from DWP will it Mr Russell? Thirty pieces of silver won't go very far however if we get independence!
I think the interviewer last night was actually Glenn Campbell! What I found surprising was Laurie Russell's response to the question on
the compulsory nature of Labour's welfare plans. He answered: 'Of course, there is a compulsory element to the current programmes'
which is of course quite true - but as a spokesperson for The Wise
Group I would have expected a slightly more robust reaction. Alan
Sinclair - who actually set up The Wise Group - was always very
adamant when he used to come to our part of Chief Executive's
in Strathclyde Region (the economic bit) that compulsion was
likely to be counterproductive and I even arranged to take him
along to Bill Hughes, then Tory Party Chair in Scotland, who to
his credit, then made exactly the same point to Mrs Thatcher. It
is a measure perhaps of how far Labour has travelled that they
are the Government at Westminister now pushing forced labour.
Two other very important contributions in the clips before that Newsnight studio discussion should also not be forgotten. It
was former Justice Minister and Acting Scottish First Minister
Jim Wallace of the Liberal Democrats who commented on the inappropriateness of using terms like 'community service' that
are normally associated with the penal system in Scotland when
describing the new burdens to be imposed on those claiming incapacity benefit. That sentiment was also being reflected in
the spread of 'vox pop' comments from ordinary East Enders -
which I have to say gave me great confidence for Thursday too.
The other key input came from one of these street interviewers with someone who highlighted the impact on carers - many of whom he suggested were on incapacity benefit themselves as carer allowance was too bureaucratic to access easily and thus
there would be a double impace on those on IB and carers
of those on IB. The Labour Party should crawl away in shame.
Posted by: Alex Porter, TROLL PATROL on 1:49pm Tue 22 Jul 08
Wasn't his daughter paid as a full-time MP's office worker? How does she do that and run 2 businesses? These half million salary and staff expenses look impossible to explain now, eh?
The Herald can try and play this down but the lid is off. 'Medically retired' indeed.
Wasn't his daughter paid as a full-time MP's office worker? How does she do that and run 2 businesses? These half million salary and staff expenses look impossible to explain now, eh?
The Herald can try and play this down but the lid is off. 'Medically retired' indeed.
Posted by: Luigi, Aberdeen on 1:54pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]subrosa[/bold] wrote:
They had to acknowledge this as the Sun exposed it today. Someone posted that information on another thread early this morning.[/quote] [bold]GOTCHA![/bold]
subrosa wrote:
They had to acknowledge this as the Sun exposed it today. Someone posted that information on another thread early this morning.
GOTCHA! Posted by: OHO, Glasgow on 1:56pm Tue 22 Jul 08
If Mr Marshall has been claiming the costs of running part of his home as an office, then he can't claim ALL of it, if that office was also being used to run another 2 businesses. That would be fraud.
Also, if part of a home is used as an office, then when the house is sold, the profit relating to that part of the home is subject to capital gains tax. An investigation should be mounted by HMRC about this.
Indeed, it might be worth asking HMRC how many MPs (and MSPs) have claimed to have an office in their home and then sold that home - and how much they have claimed in capital gains for these sales?
If Mr Marshall has been claiming the costs of running part of his home as an office, then he can't claim ALL of it, if that office was also being used to run another 2 businesses. That would be fraud.
Also, if part of a home is used as an office, then when the house is sold, the profit relating to that part of the home is subject to capital gains tax. An investigation should be mounted by HMRC about this.
Indeed, it might be worth asking HMRC how many MPs (and MSPs) have claimed to have an office in their home and then sold that home - and how much they have claimed in capital gains for these sales?
Posted by: baffled, scotland on 1:56pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]baffled[/bold] wrote:
Would any of the cyber gnats wish to comment on the fact that Fergus Ewing was his mother's secretary,and paid by the taxpayer, while she was an MEP and he was a student?[/quote]
[bold]Perhaps someone at Party HQ or the Campaign Office would care to comment?[/bold]
baffled wrote:
Would any of the cyber gnats wish to comment on the fact that Fergus Ewing was his mother's secretary,and paid by the taxpayer, while she was an MEP and he was a student?
Perhaps someone at Party HQ or the Campaign Office would care to comment? Posted by: DouglasT, kirkintilloch on 2:01pm Tue 22 Jul 08
Is the real reason Ms Curran wants to go to Westminster?
http://www.almr.org.
uk/presspdfs/69.pdf
Is the real reason Ms Curran wants to go to Westminster?
http://www.almr.org.
uk/presspdfs/69.pdf
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 2:01pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[bold]Proud to be Scottish[/bold]
Oh dear PtbS, have you heard.
Your man Marhsall is looking more dodgy as the days go by.
Apparently David Marshall's Daughter, Christina Marshall , you know the one that was implicated in the [bold]LOBBYGATE AFFAIR[/bold] setting up dodgy access to ministers in 1999 has two companies registered at David Marshall's home address.
[bold]Sleaze?: Jack McConnell, David Marshall and his Daughter[/bold]
[italic]www.guardian.co.uk/p
olitics/1999/sep/26/
scotlanddevolution.d
evolution[/italic]
There are allegations going around that he wrongly used his Commons expenses to pay members of his family.... the Sunday Mail is running a particularly virulent campaign....
[bold]tinyurl.com/65hts7[/bold]
It's the same address where he held is [bold]constituency office.[/bold]
Christina Marshall was apparently operating two private firms from the Marshall family home which also houses Mr Marshall's [bold]publicly-funded office[/bold].
This isn't looking good PtbS......
It'll surely be the talk of the steamie's today and tomorrow for sure
They'll all be talking about the corrupt Labour MP milking the poor folk of Glasgow East......
Your Baffled colleague has already tried the decoy tactic, it failed miserably.
I think it's time for your campaign team to go to [bold]DEFCON 1[/bold] .
Betetr get the keys out for the big RED button with 'meltdown' written on it.
Tinfoil Hat?.... [italic]check[/italic]
Swimming Goggles... [italic]check[/italic]
Unionist Survival Guide... [italic]check[/italic]
Union Jack Pants...[italic] check[/italic]
ready.... [italic]check[/italic]
Push the button PtbS.....
[italic]push the button[/italic] ....
........
Proud to be Scottish
Oh dear PtbS, have you heard.
Your man Marhsall is looking more dodgy as the days go by.
Apparently David Marshall's Daughter, Christina Marshall , you know the one that was implicated in the
LOBBYGATE AFFAIR setting up dodgy access to ministers in 1999 has two companies registered at David Marshall's home address.
Sleaze?: Jack McConnell, David Marshall and his Daughter
www.guardian.co.uk/p
olitics/1999/sep/26/
scotlanddevolution.d
evolution
There are allegations going around that he wrongly used his Commons expenses to pay members of his family.... the Sunday Mail is running a particularly virulent campaign....
tinyurl.com/65hts7
It's the same address where he held is
constituency office.
Christina Marshall was apparently operating two private firms from the Marshall family home which also houses Mr Marshall's
publicly-funded office.
This isn't looking good PtbS......
It'll surely be the talk of the steamie's today and tomorrow for sure
They'll all be talking about the corrupt Labour MP milking the poor folk of Glasgow East......
Your Baffled colleague has already tried the decoy tactic, it failed miserably.
I think it's time for your campaign team to go to
DEFCON 1 .
Betetr get the keys out for the big RED button with 'meltdown' written on it.
Tinfoil Hat?....
check
Swimming Goggles...
check
Unionist Survival Guide...
check
Union Jack Pants...
check
ready....
check
Push the button PtbS.....
push the button ....
........
Posted by: Scunnert, Travelling in Nihlon on 2:04pm Tue 22 Jul 08
Well - it should be obvious to everyone by now that the SNP are going to win this one. So - when can we expect GB's resignation and a general election?
Well - it should be obvious to everyone by now that the SNP are going to win this one. So - when can we expect GB's resignation and a general election?
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 2:05pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]OHO[/bold] wrote:
If Mr Marshall has been claiming the costs of running part of his home as an office, then he can't claim ALL of it, if that office was also being used to run another 2 businesses. That would be fraud.
Also, if part of a home is used as an office, then when the house is sold, the profit relating to that part of the home is subject to capital gains tax. An investigation should be mounted by HMRC about this.
Indeed, it might be worth asking HMRC how many MPs (and MSPs) have claimed to have an office in their home and then sold that home - and how much they have claimed in capital gains for these sales? [/quote]
I wonder if he was also claiming a reduction in Council Tax for the part that was deemed to be his and the two private companies 'offices'.....
Was he claiming 3x the reduction?
OHO wrote:
If Mr Marshall has been claiming the costs of running part of his home as an office, then he can't claim ALL of it, if that office was also being used to run another 2 businesses. That would be fraud.
Also, if part of a home is used as an office, then when the house is sold, the profit relating to that part of the home is subject to capital gains tax. An investigation should be mounted by HMRC about this.
Indeed, it might be worth asking HMRC how many MPs (and MSPs) have claimed to have an office in their home and then sold that home - and how much they have claimed in capital gains for these sales?
I wonder if he was also claiming a reduction in Council Tax for the part that was deemed to be his and the two private companies 'offices'.....
Was he claiming 3x the reduction?
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 2:07pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[bold]Post Office reveals 44 more Scottish branches to close[/bold]
Post Office reveals 44 more Scottish branches to close Posted by: Jwil, Lanarkshire on 2:08pm Tue 22 Jul 08
Scotland Office Minister David Cairns, who is managing Labour candidate Margaret Curran's campaign, said: "As far as we are concerned, David Marshall stood down as an MP on doctor's orders.
It would be incredulous if Mr Cairns did not know the full reasons behind Marshall's sudden resignation.
His, "As far as we are concerned......." speaks volumes.
Scotland Office Minister David Cairns, who is managing Labour candidate Margaret Curran's campaign, said: "As far as we are concerned, David Marshall stood down as an MP on doctor's orders.
It would be incredulous if Mr Cairns did not know the full reasons behind Marshall's sudden resignation.
His, "As far as we are concerned......." speaks volumes.
Posted by: baffled, scotland on 2:08pm Tue 22 Jul 08
'Registered Office'
What does that mean?
Does anyone know?
Is it desks and chairs and computers and phones?
Or a brass plate?
'Registered Office'
What does that mean?
Does anyone know?
Is it desks and chairs and computers and phones?
Or a brass plate?
Posted by: tris, scotland on 2:08pm Tue 22 Jul 08
Cairns really is a repulsive little oink.
No one to my knowledge has compared the area to the Gaza strip. An SNP MP said, quite rightly, that the average male life expectancy figure in certain parts of East Glasgow, was lower than that of the Gaza Strip.
He was highlighting the awful health issues that pertain there. It wasn't a lie; it didn't in any way indiicate that the area was the same. It highlighted the FACT that people die horribly young in a part of one of the richest nations on earth.
It's not unreasonable, when a party has been in power for a long time, to question their record, specially on things as important as how long its citizens/subjects LIVE.
If Marshall had been spending a little more time fighting for more money and resourses for the area and a little less running businesses and collecting expenses, maybe that figure wouldn't be so dismal!
Shut up Cairns. When you try to defend in indefensible, you just sound even more of a creep.
Cairns really is a repulsive little oink.
No one to my knowledge has compared the area to the Gaza strip. An SNP MP said, quite rightly, that the average male life expectancy figure in certain parts of East Glasgow, was lower than that of the Gaza Strip.
He was highlighting the awful health issues that pertain there. It wasn't a lie; it didn't in any way indiicate that the area was the same. It highlighted the FACT that people die horribly young in a part of one of the richest nations on earth.
It's not unreasonable, when a party has been in power for a long time, to question their record, specially on things as important as how long its citizens/subjects LIVE.
If Marshall had been spending a little more time fighting for more money and resourses for the area and a little less running businesses and collecting expenses, maybe that figure wouldn't be so dismal!
Shut up Cairns. When you try to defend in indefensible, you just sound even more of a creep.
Posted by: Jwil, Lanarkshire on 2:09pm Tue 22 Jul 08
I wonder if the question will come up on the candidates airtime on STV tonight?
I wonder if the question will come up on the candidates airtime on STV tonight?
Posted by: indyleith, edinburgh on 2:10pm Tue 22 Jul 08
Yes lets keep to the story about Marshall and his daughter using and abusing tax payers money to run 2 firms from their home which was also housed his office. Quite lucrative then it would seem.
Cairns knew full well that the talk at Westminster had been about Marshall and his financial irregularties, they knew this was about to come out so he got in there first and retired on health grounds.
New Liebour, does the opposite of what it says on the tin and you get a tartan tory party.
Glasgow East ,dont get mad get even. Kick them into the gutter.
Yes lets keep to the story about Marshall and his daughter using and abusing tax payers money to run 2 firms from their home which was also housed his office. Quite lucrative then it would seem.
Cairns knew full well that the talk at Westminster had been about Marshall and his financial irregularties, they knew this was about to come out so he got in there first and retired on health grounds.
New Liebour, does the opposite of what it says on the tin and you get a tartan tory party.
Glasgow East ,dont get mad get even. Kick them into the gutter.
Posted by: fiferjohn, benbecula on 2:11pm Tue 22 Jul 08
here is an ideal why not pay the mps the average wage for the area they represent and the going rate that business give to employees as expenses .then you might get people as mps that care about what they do and not how much they can beg steal or rip off.
here is an ideal why not pay the mps the average wage for the area they represent and the going rate that business give to employees as expenses .then you might get people as mps that care about what they do and not how much they can beg steal or rip off.
Posted by: baffled, scotland on 2:11pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Jwil[/bold] wrote:
Scotland Office Minister David Cairns, who is managing Labour candidate Margaret Curran's campaign, said: "As far as we are concerned, David Marshall stood down as an MP on doctor's orders.
It would be incredulous if Mr Cairns did not know the full reasons behind Marshall's sudden resignation.
His, "As far as we are concerned......." speaks volumes.
[/quote] 'incredulous'
I think you mean incredible.
You would be incredulous (i.e. you wouldn't believe it).
Jwil wrote:
Scotland Office Minister David Cairns, who is managing Labour candidate Margaret Curran's campaign, said: "As far as we are concerned, David Marshall stood down as an MP on doctor's orders.
It would be incredulous if Mr Cairns did not know the full reasons behind Marshall's sudden resignation.
His, "As far as we are concerned......." speaks volumes.
'incredulous'
I think you mean incredible.
You would be incredulous (i.e. you wouldn't believe it).
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 2:12pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Jwil[/bold] wrote:
I wonder if the question will come up on the candidates airtime on STV tonight?[/quote]
It will be a fallacy if it doesn't.
Michael Crow is pretty good, I expect [bold]ALL[/bold] candidates to get a grilling.....
Jwil wrote:
I wonder if the question will come up on the candidates airtime on STV tonight?
It will be a fallacy if it doesn't.
Michael Crow is pretty good, I expect
ALL candidates to get a grilling.....
Posted by: Luigi, Aberdeen on 2:13pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Scunnert[/bold] wrote:
Well - it should be obvious to everyone by now that the SNP are going to win this one. So - when can we expect GB's resignation and a general election?[/quote] [italic]If,[/italic] oops I mean[italic] when[/italic] the SNP take Glasgow East, [italic]Broon[/italic] will be on his bike within days, and Cameron will be PM by Christmas.
There's a big heavy domino starting to wobble and start the process. One final push? Whatever happens though, Salmond will have his referendum in 2010.
[bold]C'mon Glasgow![/bold]
Scunnert wrote:
Well - it should be obvious to everyone by now that the SNP are going to win this one. So - when can we expect GB's resignation and a general election?
If, oops I mean
when the SNP take Glasgow East,
Broon will be on his bike within days, and Cameron will be PM by Christmas.
There's a big heavy domino starting to wobble and start the process. One final push? Whatever happens though, Salmond will have his referendum in 2010.
C'mon Glasgow! Posted by: ditchgazza on 2:13pm Tue 22 Jul 08
Biffo, you should retire from these message boards on health grounds.
Biffo, you should retire from these message boards on health grounds.
Posted by: girfut, thebigisland on 2:15pm Tue 22 Jul 08
Thinking back to the 1970`s I remember a piggery existed out east. somewhere off Edinburgh road/ carntyne area. Can someone confirm this please.?
Thinking back to the 1970`s I remember a piggery existed out east. somewhere off Edinburgh road/ carntyne area. Can someone confirm this please.?
Posted by: bannatyne, Glasgow on 2:17pm Tue 22 Jul 08
What's a piggery got to do with a East end by election?. If you are thinking, Pigs, snouts in the trough. Marshall and his ilk. then i get you
What's a piggery got to do with a East end by election?. If you are thinking, Pigs, snouts in the trough. Marshall and his ilk. then i get you
Posted by: Jwil, Lanarkshire on 2:18pm Tue 22 Jul 08
The Herald has made a soup of this article to downplay the real news.
The Herald has made a soup of this article to downplay the real news.
Posted by: baffled, scotland on 2:18pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]bannatyne[/bold] wrote:
What's a piggery got to do with a East end by election?. If you are thinking, Pigs, snouts in the trough. Marshall and his ilk. then i get you[/quote]
I think he's a stick twirler.
bannatyne wrote:
What's a piggery got to do with a East end by election?. If you are thinking, Pigs, snouts in the trough. Marshall and his ilk. then i get you
I think he's a stick twirler.
Posted by: Faux Cu, Palais Bourbon on 2:18pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]indyleith[/bold] wrote:
Yes lets keep to the story about Marshall and his daughter using and abusing tax payers money to run 2 firms from their home which was also housed his office. Quite lucrative then it would seem. Cairns knew full well that the talk at Westminster had been about Marshall and his financial irregularties, they knew this was about to come out so he got in there first and retired on health grounds. New Liebour, does the opposite of what it says on the tin and you get a tartan tory party. Glasgow East ,dont get mad get even. Kick them into the gutter.[/quote] Where did the money come from to fund the two property companies?
Will the answer be in tomrrow's G Herald?
Rhetorical question?
indyleith wrote:
Yes lets keep to the story about Marshall and his daughter using and abusing tax payers money to run 2 firms from their home which was also housed his office. Quite lucrative then it would seem. Cairns knew full well that the talk at Westminster had been about Marshall and his financial irregularties, they knew thi