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Bookies the only favourites as candidates take their marks
TORCUIL CRICHTON, Chief UK political correspondentJuly 05 2008

Ladbrokes shortened Labour's odds in the Glasgow East by-election yesterday to make the party joint favourite with the SNP to win the seat at 5/6.

For Labour, who failed to select a candidate last night, that could be just a temporary improvement in fortunes. When the gun was fired on this three-week steeplechase the SNP were 8/13 on. But don't place your money until you hear the apocryphal tale of the election agent encountered in the street during one campaign with a large wad of banknotes protruding from his sports jacket.

His plan was simple. Having collected £1000, a sizeable sum, from committed supporters, he was hotfooting it to the local betting shop to skew the odds so wildly that there could be no comeback for the opposition. It was one week out from the vote and the agent reckoned timing was everything. He was right - once the money was over the counter all bets were off and the agent's man was the bookie's surefire winner.

If only by-elections could be predicted with the certainty of bookie's odds. No-one dares stake their reputation on the outcome of the Glasgow East and last night's events - when Labour postponed it's selection process - showed how dangerous it is too take a punt too early.

It is understood that the favourite for the Labour nomination, Shettleston councillor George Ryan, was unable to attend the constituency selection meeting. His partner is apparently reluctant for him to seek the nomination.

Understandable domestic pressures interupting a political career is something of a theme this week and comparisons will be made with Nicol Stephen, who resigned as Scottish Liberal Democrat leader to spend more time with his family.

However Mr Ryan's and Labour's circumstances are resolved the postponement is the worst start the party could have for the campaign and a bad omen for what is predicted to be a bitter contest.

David Marshall's former seat should be safe Labour territory - a 13,500 majority, the third-safest in Scotland - but now it is being treated not so much as a litmus test, more as an acid bath, for Gordon Brown's premiership.

Unlike Crewe and Nantwich or Henley this is not a slow-motion car crash for the government. To lose in Glasgow East would be a politically cataclysmic, an earthquake on a scale to shake Mr Brown out of Downing Street.

To win the seat, the SNP would need a 21.9% swing but Alex Salmond is not one to say anything is beyond him. The First Minister will be in the constituency today and on Monday for the official SNP campaign launch. Their candidate, councillor John Mason, has represented the Ballieston ward on Glasgow council, covering one-third of the constituency, for the last decade.


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Posted by: malachi malagrowther, Abbotsford on 12:46am Sat 5 Jul 08
Who said politics was boring?
Posted by: Sean Connery for President, Perth on 1:20am Sat 5 Jul 08
22% is the magic number Cllr Mason - the country is behind you so how can you lose :-) no pressure eh!.
Those of us who cannot campaign with you, wish you every success in the usual positive SNP campaign, steer clear of negative stuff and remember all the good stuff the we have achieved in a mere year.

Good luck John
Posted by: Edward, Edinburgh on 1:58am Sat 5 Jul 08
Looks like Labour have stumbled at the first hurdle as the favourite for candidate, isnt that keen, even with the John Lewis vouchers thrown in!
Posted by: doonhamer on 2:17am Sat 5 Jul 08
Perhaps Labour is trying to avoid the humiliation of defeat by refusing to name a candidate... HAS THAT EVER HAPPENED BEFORE?

or it could be just another trough sipper bottling it at the last moment?
Posted by: neil robertson, Dundee, Scotland on 4:04am Sat 5 Jul 08
doonhamer wrote:
Perhaps Labour is trying to avoid the humiliation of defeat by refusing to name a candidate... HAS THAT EVER HAPPENED BEFORE? or it could be just another trough sipper bottling it at the last moment?
http://www.commondre
ams.org/headlines/06
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Posted by: redc;liffe62, brisbane on hols on 4:34am Sat 5 Jul 08
it would appear that the candidate's previous comments about the butcher's apron will alienate the blue white and red labour voters.
i would expect he will be announced as long as that is not an issue over the weekend.
it is for the media to decide how important an issue that is, in a divided sectarian area of glasgow. good luck!
Posted by: redc;liffe62, brisbane on hols on 4:38am Sat 5 Jul 08
will the postal votes arrive on time to allow those who go away for the fair break to vote, or will they arrive late-ish?
i think we know the answer already following the contrived and semi-successful election tactics of douglas alexander.
perhaps the media can verify when they are being sent out, not when they are SUPPOSED to be going out!
Posted by: Jimmy the Pie on 7:31am Sat 5 Jul 08
I asked for expense details from the London parliament, on Ann McKechin, MP for Glasgow North, David Cairns, MP for Inverclyde and Edinburgh North & Leith MP, Mark Lazarowicz.

I also asked for info on His Lardship, Lard Foolkes from the Hoose of Lords @ foilords@parliament.

uk.

They are very helpful, even acknowledging my enquiry and promising details next week. I will of course pass on details of their sleaze


I was going to enquire about George Ryan but seemingly he never showed up at his acceptance meeting!!!!
Looks like Purcell, so its his financial details I'm after.

Might find them in HALLS OF INFAMY?????
Posted by: Jimmy the Pie, Orkney on 9:05am Sat 5 Jul 08
It will have to be pointed out that New Labour Sleaze will only ever pay attention to marginal seats and ignore their 'safe' seats.

The electorate don't deserve any consideration.

As a financially and morally bankrupt party, New Labour Sleaze can be clearly seen for what they really are.
Selfish, greedy, self serving and arrogant.

Will Steven Purcell end his political 'career' by fighting a lost cause???

I don't think so. And there is the 'Halls of Infamy' which is being investigated by one of the Sundays. When that story breaks that'll be the end of the Glasgow mafia

The whole point of this election is saving Comrade Broon from humiliation, saving the Party and not giving a to$s about the electorate.

They will pay the ultimate price.
Posted by: redc;liffe62, brisbane on hols on 9:31am Sat 5 Jul 08
maybe the labour candidate is waiting for an opinion poll to see if labour can win on a 35% turnout. will not be a lot more the way it has been set up.
Posted by: Disgusted Dorothy, Glasgow on 12:17pm Sat 5 Jul 08
Yippee!
Tomorrow is Sunday!
Posted by: Curley Bill, the southwest on 12:30pm Sat 5 Jul 08
Remember, 'Things can only get better' ?

What NuLabour need for this campaign is a catchy anthem - given Mr Ryan's dash into the sunset maybe it should be the old Del Shannon song, 'Runaway.'
Of course, the East End voters could always sing, 'You've abandoned me, love don't live hear anymore.' as they troop past the glum-faced solitary Labour activist.
Posted by: britfree, camelon on 2:53pm Sat 5 Jul 08
bookies aint daft .
Posted by: britfree, camelon on 2:57pm Sat 5 Jul 08
greedy heartless exploititive shady with the ever present threat of violence , but not notorious for daftiness in the odds department
Posted by: Gordon Girvan, Los Angeles on 10:05pm Sun 6 Jul 08
Glasgow East has the great opportunity to move SCOTLAND out of the dark ages and move forward to join the rest of the civilized world as an INDEPENDENT COUNTRY and stop being HELD BACK with this outdated union with england.Lets all MOVE FORWARD!!!!
Posted by: Arnold Codger, Glasgow on 1:06am Mon 7 Jul 08
Nadal won at Wimbledon, i saw that as a sign. I don't expect many will read this post, even after the clamour of yesterday. IF the SNP can be innovative in their race then they Might win. Innovation. Yes this is time. Quantum Solace thinking - the old rules are good but but now we are in new political area (sp?). If we can touch the perceptions of the real people of Englands' Scotland, If we can have the chance to tell face-to-face what has been the real embargo, and if the people CARE.
That is OUR aim, the SNP are striding for the Scottish People, at last. We are better by ourselves now, History has told us this and never more than NOW!
Posted by: Iainbroch, Moray on 1:33am Mon 7 Jul 08
redc;liffe62 wrote:
maybe the labour candidate is waiting for an opinion poll to see if labour can win on a 35% turnout. will not be a lot more the way it has been set up.
I would not bet on even a 35% turn out - not unless the bookies offer me some decent odds. The last time I tried to make a political bet - Ladbrokes would not take it. Eck won in Gordon so I guess the Bookies knew the outcome a week before the vote. Or so I assume?

Of course NuLab could offer an incentive to make it eaier to vote and to encourage a decent turn out - free amphetamines or anti depressants distributed to those apathetics who have never bothered voting?
Posted by: Arnold Codger, Glasgow on 2:32am Mon 7 Jul 08
John Mason is the W. H Macy of Scottish Politics. He is a shaker-upper for the Good. He even looks like him. He knows what is right and he is good man, i've met him and i like him. I'm not turing this into a duel between good and evil or the like - i don't know him that well of course. However, from what i see of him, yes he is the William .H Macy of realpolik Scotland - yes.
Unforutnately i can't i give you the you the tiny url because it has been hacked atcm. however try@
imdb.com
search William H Macy#
and you will see what i mean -
he is Giant Killer - for the right cause
Posted by: Arnold Codger, Glasgow on 2:59am Mon 7 Jul 08
Not in Fargo - btw where he played the patsy., oops, I know, his most film that i love. I know someone will say this, i thats fine. However, do he is the person for the Scottish People, London does not care for Scotland, look at the Piper Alpher attrocity - they did not care for safety - they only cared abour Money to the UK to as see as they fit. Why did this tragedy happen - you MUST think about about Scottish Heroes for an over-endured Soverienty. Look at the Booker Prise Winners List because it's all about the mishappenstance of soverienty - and we are the last ebb of if. This is a deep-felt post, all countries should be free to make the OWN mistakes -i.e i am not saying that the PIPER ALPHA disaster would not have happend under Scottish Rule, we would have had a say in our Precious Oil Rigs. Those men who lost there lives, and their very lucky colleagues who survivied, know that this tragedy would not have happened under International safety rules.
England, London did not care! It still does not care for Scottish expenditure of HUMAN, mineral or liveware in Scotland. The Emprie is dead - we are living the turbulant vestiges of it s demise - no more.

You have seen it in your family, you have seen in it your communty and the World is watching for you show of dissatiaction.

And, afer all that, you don't think that,i am talking nonsense well why is he most reourceful nation on Earth asking you this?

Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 10:53am Mon 7 Jul 08


Labour diehards are so locked in to their hatred of the SNP they have forgotten they are Scots.
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