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Brown: Trust me to sort the UK’s economic problems out
MICHAEL SETTLEMay 16 2008

Gordon Brown insisted yesterday that he was the best person to lead Britain through the global economic storm, saying: "I have done it before and I can do it again."

The Prime Minister took his fightback to the airwaves with a series of early-morning media interviews and continued it at his monthly Downing Street briefing, making clear that he had a track record of managing the economy well.

"I feel that I am in the right position to be able to sort out the problems that we have now. We will not hesitate to take whatever action is necessary to take the British economy through difficult times," he told reporters.

Mr Brown brushed aside speculation over possible challenges to his position as "rumour and gossip", and, during his hour-long press conference, repeatedly declared that he would not be distracted from "getting on with the job".

He stressed how the economic crisis was down to global events: the credit crunch as well as rising fuel and food prices. However, he rejected "defeatist" suggestions that there was little he could do to influence such global trends.

"There is a great deal you can do; good economic decisions can help people through difficult times," he declared.

The PM also painted an upbeat picture, saying how there was a "magnificent future ahead of us, if we make the right long-term decisions".

After a series of negative events and with the prospect of an embarrassing by-election defeat next week in Crewe and Nantwich - where David Cameron turned up again yesterday - Mr Brown on Wednesday sought to create some positive momentum by releasing a draft Queen's Speech, laying out plans to empower citizens with measures on health, education, welfare, immigration and the constitution.

However, this carefully planned announcement was overshadowed by a gloomy economic snapshot by Mervyn King, Governor of the Bank of England, who warned that the "nice decade is behind us" and that inflation was likely to be above the 2% target for the next two years.

During Mr Brown's airwave offensive he was accused of breaking one of his fiscal rules - the so-called "sustainable investment rule", which states that national debt should be below 40% of the nation's wealth creation or GDP.

When it was suggested he would break this rule because of the extra borrowing to fund the £2.7bn compensation package for those who lost out in the abolition of the 10p tax rate, the PM replied this was not the case as the rule had to be met "over the economic cycle". The last one ran from 1997 to 2007 and a new one has begun.

The Tories pulled Mr Brown up, saying that he had previously acknowledged the rule had to be met every year. George Osborne, the shadow chancellor, noted: "This is a typically tricksy way of Gordon Brown fiddling his own rules and preparing the path for borrowing billions in the run-up to a general election."

However, later, at the No 10 briefing, the Prime Minister explained that both his fiscal rules would be met.

He explained the sustainable investment rule had to be met every year as well as over the economic cycle. The Treasury has insisted that the next snapshot on debt will be in the autumn pre-budget report.

Mr Brown also said that the so-called "golden rule" of only borrowing to invest was one to be met over the whole economic cycle.

This had been done in the last cycle, which ran from 1997 to 2007, and, he stressed, the economy was at the beginning of a new cycle.

During his press conference, the PM also made clear that he backed keeping the abortion limit at 24 weeks and would vote against lowering it.


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Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 10:16pm Thu 15 May 08
How do you make a small fortune in Scotland, start with a big one and let Gordon Broon steal your money in taxes.

That joke is for prissy '' George Alexander ''. A little rangers ned.
Posted by: george alexander, north lanarkshire on 10:19pm Thu 15 May 08
COMMENTS BLACKOUT ON SCOTTISH POLITICAL ARTICLES CONTINUES.

Casual readers of The Herald should be aware that readers are being prevented from making online comments on Scottish political articles. The Herald blackout also includes articles relating to Rangers football fans.

This blackout is the second such from The Herald and follows a similar pattern to the first being that it coincided with the Labour party in apparent turmoil.

There has been no explanation forthcoming from The Herald editorial team and we are therefore forced to conclude that online comments are not to the liking of those in authority.
Posted by: Free Thinker, North Lanarkshire on 10:27pm Thu 15 May 08
Wullie wrote:
How do you make a small fortune in Scotland, start with a big one and let Gordon Broon steal your money in taxes. That joke is for prissy '' George Alexander ''. A little rangers ned.
LOL
Posted by: Free Thinker, North Lanarkshire on 10:34pm Thu 15 May 08
Yes. Herald does more Orwellian 'newspeak'. I dispute their latest opinion poll analysis. When we get a fair and fee referendum. Free from any interference by MI5 or the other Establishment criminals. Scotland will vote in a landslide for independence. Yes. That's why Comrade Broon and his grunts are very, very afraid. Hence nit picking over the wording of the question. Scotland wants to be free.
Posted by: martin, dundee on 10:38pm Thu 15 May 08
Is there a by-election next week, or am I becoming cynical in my old age??? Brown only speaks to gain votes.I wouldnt trust him with the economy and by all account his own constituents are turning against him so he may well have difficulty holding on to his seat at the general election.Heres hoping!!!
Posted by: george alexander, north lanarkshire on 10:46pm Thu 15 May 08
On the subject of the Rangers fans, I've just seen pictures on the news and it is deplorable.

I don't believe that the fans who took part in the violence are Unionists...........
..the Union flag is simply football bunting......they are thugs, pure and simple. However, we cannot deny the fact that they were almost certainly Scottish and they have brought shame on us all.

I feel that Rangers would do well to cease the blatant militaristic and triumphalist songs and music that emanates from both the tannoys and the crowd at ibrox. The 'no-one likes us.....we don't care' song is indicative of the insular and seige mentality that prevails at Ibrox.

The tone and atmosphere is one of aggression and defiance and doesn't lend itself to warmth from outsiders or onlookers. It is easy to see why those who might be prone to violence would feel emboldened in such an aggressive atmosphere.
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 11:00pm Thu 15 May 08
Here we have the twit '' George Alexander '' wittering on like an old sweetie wife . As someone who purports to be an advocate of independence '' George Alexander '' is indeed a phoney. Yesterday he was telling us he was a rangers fan. The most British, arch unionist, loyalist, union jack waving thing in Scotland. '' George '' probably goes to freemason meetings with Donald Findlay QC. Absolutely hilarious.

Listen '' George '' most of us on the Herald forum are use to you squealing like a piglet, but the majority of people in Scotland are not use to it. When are you going to behave yourself ? Its hard work for me typing out all these comments, trying to keep you right . Do us all a favour and give us all peace.

Posted by: Peter Thomson, Labour - hammers of the poor on 11:07pm Thu 15 May 08
Magrat Currant and her bunch of weasel faced cowardly comrades should hang their heads in shame at their failure to support the return of funds from the Scottish block grant that Joke and his bunch of weaselly libdem and labpoorites should never have let Brownovitch away with in the first place. There is no surprise in yet another U turn from Labour in Scotland - all the integrity of a cow pat covered in icing. Its not so much not causing a dispute with Westminster, Magrat, as lying down face front with 'Welcome' tattooed on your back and requesting all folk cleaning their shoes on you to have at least half inch cleats in their soles. Labour in Scotland, the party that loves masochism.

Brownovitch wants us to trust him on the economy when he balances the books by stealing money from grannies and the poorest then has to go off and borrow from his banker pals in the city when the UK as a whole tells him not this time! Worse still the economy he and his pals in the SE and the City mock is performing better than the rest of the UK for the first time in three hundred years. Mmmmm, wonder why that is?
Posted by: Alastair, Aberdeen on 11:27pm Thu 15 May 08
As someone who purports to be an advocate of independence '' George Alexander '' is indeed a phoney.

Not half as much a phoney as someone who shoots Enoch Powell from the hip, and foams at the mouth with rabid hatred of Scotland's biggest city
Posted by: haud me back, glasgow on 11:33pm Thu 15 May 08
Why have the comments been disabled on some of the news items, this is censorship of the worst kind. I have something to say about Broons comment about Rangers supporters jepordising the chances of England getting the World Cup.
You have to ask if the Labour Party been using the strong arm on the Herald editors, if they continue to behave like Stalinists then they deserve all the criticism they get.

Give us our comments back!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Alastair, Aberdeen on 11:37pm Thu 15 May 08
I thought very much the same thing as you haud me back. Very interesting indeed, Gazza's priorities, and also his, shall we say, rather rushed statement, in contrast to Alex Salmond's more measured call for an inquiry into what actually happened!
Posted by: Tunnock, kirkton on 11:50pm Thu 15 May 08
"Brown: Trust me to sort the UK’s economic problems out"

In a word , NO.
Posted by: wee folding bike on 12:01am Fri 16 May 08
Usually if online ads are not too obtrusive I don't mind them. I accept that the content must be funded and advertising does that. As a result of the Herald limiting comment I have installed an ad blocker. I have checked pages with and without the blocker. It seems to cut out about 1/3 of the files involved in the page. Some of them are linked to an address called adjug which sells online advertising. With luck this will prevent my clicks from being logged by advertisers and they will not pay the Herald for them.

Herald editors, do you get the message here?

When you reinstate comments I will turn off the blocker.
Posted by: Jwil, Lanarkshire on 12:05am Fri 16 May 08
Beown seems to be agitating against Rangers now to keep his English constituency reassured about getting the World cup.

Posted by: Strathturret, Montrose on 12:10am Fri 16 May 08
A riot by Rangers fans harms England's chance of hosting the World Cup.

Truely a Union Dividend!
Posted by: BM, Glasgow on 12:16am Fri 16 May 08
Trust the man who stole the pension money, sold the gold reserves, imposed mega taxes on fuel, let the banks get out of control with their greed and conspired in the bankrupting and illegal genocide in Iraq. Trust him ? Never! He has single handedly bankrupted the country through his sheer incompetence, so how can he be trusted to rescue it?
Posted by: Samoyed, Costa del Menie on 12:31am Fri 16 May 08
From The Sunday TimesMay 11, 2008

Grim news for Scotsman and The Herald
Advertising revenues are falling at Scotland's two rival papers and more jobs are going. Can they survive on their own?
(Steve Cox)
In February The Scotsman’s advertising revenue was down 4.2%.

John Penman
Six years ago, Andrew Neil prompted outrage when he proposed a merger of the Edinburgh-based Scotsman with its Glasgow rival, The Herald.

His rationale was that by combining operations such as advertising, printing and back office functions, while maintaining editorial independence, the titles could continue to thrive. Without the merger, he argued, they would wilt under increasing competition, not least from the Scottish editions of UK nationals.

Neil, then running The Scotsman for its owners, the Barclay brothers, was deadly serious and the Barclays came close to persuading The Herald’s then owners, SMG, to sell, but the price and opposition from politicians and journalists — including at least one editor on the Herald titles — put paid to his plans.

Although they were willing to pay a premium, the final asking price was too high for the Barclays, but not for Newsquest, the British arm of the US publishing giant Gannett, which won the auction by paying £216m.

Within a few months, poor advertising returns meant Newsquest had to cut back, setting a budget freeze that foreshadowed at least two rounds of redundancies.

Last week, The Herald again asked for volunteers for redundancy. It said it wants 20 more journalists to go out of a total of 40 job cuts across the company. According to sources at the paper, that would reduce the number of journalists to fewer than 100, two-thirds of the number employed when Newsquest took ownership.

Johnston Press, which bought The Scotsman from the Barclays for £160m in 2005, will update the market this week and the expectation is of another tale of woe. In February, Johnston said that advertising was down 4.2%.

In figures published last week, The Scotsman’s full-rate circulation has fallen to just under 45,000; its overall figure, including bulks, was just over 50,000, while The Herald’s full-rate figure was just under 64,000. Bulks brought its total up to just over 65,000.

Maybe Neil’s merger plan does not look such a bad idea after all. In a documentary on BBC Radio Scotland later this week presented by John McGurk, Neil will suggest parallels with the catastrophic decline of the Clyde shipbuilding industry.

That may be a bit dramatic, but what is clear is that the fall in circulation for Scotland’s quality daily press has been sharp. In January 2005, two years into Newsquest’s ownership, The Herald could boast an average sale of 80,700, while the Scotsman was in the mid 60,000s, so where have all the readers gone?

Posted by: boab, Ayrshire on 8:07am Fri 16 May 08
I wonder how Darling feels knowing that it is not he, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, who is to be trusted with the economy but Gordon Brown. Maybe that's his problem - he doesn't realise he isn't in that job anymore.

As to the other themes running through the comments:

I am a proud Rangers supporter who is sick of being tagged as a bigot just because it suits some people to label. If that were the case then you could label almost every club's supporters in Scotland with some tag or other. I'm no sectarian bigot, couldn't tell you what the words are to songs like The Sash, have no interest in religion of any sort and I passionately believe in independence for Scotland. I, like most of the fans I know, support my team as a Scottish club and consider those who wear England shirts to the games clowns.

I've also been thinking about the trouble the other night and I sympathise with both the police and the club. Unlike when travelling to away matches, the police had no way of monitoring who was turning up to Manchester that day. So yes, they may have been Rangers fans, but at the same time it could easily have been hooligans getting together to cause trouble. All they would have needed to do was buy a Rangers shirt and, with the sheer numbers of people there it would have been very difficult to spot any known troublemakers. That said it was a pity such an occasion was spoiled.

On the subject of the closing down of comments it's interesting seeing the day's Scottish news. I see a veteran of the newspaper industry in America is saying that, if the Herald and Scotsman's circulation continues to fall they will not exist in their present format in a decade. Also local councils will no longer advertise jobs in national newspapers (thereby saving the taxpayer an estimated £6 million) and this will be another blow to the advertising revenue of these papers. With the draconian banning of comments on Scottish political stories it's the least they deserve.
Posted by: Luigi, Aberdeen on 8:51am Fri 16 May 08
Samoyed wrote:
From The Sunday TimesMay 11, 2008 Grim news for Scotsman and The Herald Advertising revenues are falling at Scotland's two rival papers and more jobs are going. Can they survive on their own? (Steve Cox) In February The Scotsman’s advertising revenue was down 4.2%. John Penman Six years ago, Andrew Neil prompted outrage when he proposed a merger of the Edinburgh-based Scotsman with its Glasgow rival, The Herald. His rationale was that by combining operations such as advertising, printing and back office functions, while maintaining editorial independence, the titles could continue to thrive. Without the merger, he argued, they would wilt under increasing competition, not least from the Scottish editions of UK nationals. Neil, then running The Scotsman for its owners, the Barclay brothers, was deadly serious and the Barclays came close to persuading The Herald’s then owners, SMG, to sell, but the price and opposition from politicians and journalists — including at least one editor on the Herald titles — put paid to his plans. Although they were willing to pay a premium, the final asking price was too high for the Barclays, but not for Newsquest, the British arm of the US publishing giant Gannett, which won the auction by paying £216m. Within a few months, poor advertising returns meant Newsquest had to cut back, setting a budget freeze that foreshadowed at least two rounds of redundancies. Last week, The Herald again asked for volunteers for redundancy. It said it wants 20 more journalists to go out of a total of 40 job cuts across the company. According to sources at the paper, that would reduce the number of journalists to fewer than 100, two-thirds of the number employed when Newsquest took ownership. Johnston Press, which bought The Scotsman from the Barclays for £160m in 2005, will update the market this week and the expectation is of another tale of woe. In February, Johnston said that advertising was down 4.2%. In figures published last week, The Scotsman’s full-rate circulation has fallen to just under 45,000; its overall figure, including bulks, was just over 50,000, while The Herald’s full-rate figure was just under 64,000. Bulks brought its total up to just over 65,000. Maybe Neil’s merger plan does not look such a bad idea after all. In a documentary on BBC Radio Scotland later this week presented by John McGurk, Neil will suggest parallels with the catastrophic decline of the Clyde shipbuilding industry. That may be a bit dramatic, but what is clear is that the fall in circulation for Scotland’s quality daily press has been sharp. In January 2005, two years into Newsquest’s ownership, The Herald could boast an average sale of 80,700, while the Scotsman was in the mid 60,000s, so where have all the readers gone?
It gets worse, Samoyed,

It was just announced on BBC Radio Scotland this morning that the Scottish councils are no longer going to use the national newspapers to advertise jobs etc. Apparently, they have a new website for that purpose. Estimated loss to Scotsman, Herald et al - will be about £6 million a year. GRIM.

An american analyst who studies newspaper circulation patterns in the USA reckons the Herald and Scotsman will disappear within the next 10 years.
Posted by: Sam, somewhereelse on 9:03am Fri 16 May 08
Peter Thomson wrote:
Magrat Currant and her bunch of weasel faced cowardly comrades should hang their heads in shame at their failure to support the return of funds from the Scottish block grant that Joke and his bunch of weaselly libdem and labpoorites should never have let Brownovitch away with in the first place. There is no surprise in yet another U turn from Labour in Scotland - all the integrity of a cow pat covered in icing. Its not so much not causing a dispute with Westminster, Magrat, as lying down face front with 'Welcome' tattooed on your back and requesting all folk cleaning their shoes on you to have at least half inch cleats in their soles. Labour in Scotland, the party that loves masochism. Brownovitch wants us to trust him on the economy when he balances the books by stealing money from grannies and the poorest then has to go off and borrow from his banker pals in the city when the UK as a whole tells him not this time! Worse still the economy he and his pals in the SE and the City mock is performing better than the rest of the UK for the first time in three hundred years. Mmmmm, wonder why that is?
'Brownovitch' That's Brilliant. What else can we come up with...
Wendy Alexandropov.....
Posted by: McSomeone, Scotland on 9:14am Fri 16 May 08
Looks, sorry guys, I know I got you into this mess but trust me, I'll get you out of dit.

Brown, do the honourable thing and call a general election because you will never get it sorted in the period you've left. Especially as you have absolutely NO control over events now taking place.
Posted by: redc;liffe62, brisbane on hols on 9:33am Fri 16 May 08
There is a point where the public perceive certain politicians cannot even lie straight in bed. Brown's approval rating is on a par with George Bush, not dithering self centred bumblers who led both their political troops and the real thing down a merry misadventure.
I think Goldie's approach has been spot on. Nags only when necessary. And from a tory perspective,if they are at 20%, then they only need another 3 or 4 and they will pick up seats.
Even labour and SNP supporters say she listens and makes sage comments. Thatcherism as a memory is ebbing away and relates only to older voters now.
An apology from Cameron for whatThatcher did, asking to start afresh and even if he is Tory toff he knows that Scotland needs to be treated differently would do them a world off good.
Fear and scaremongering will of course again be a part of the tory lexicon at the next election, but having failed to slay the nationalist dragon through lies and deceit, labour's credibility remains at a level that is unsalvageable if competent government is again to be envisaged, let alone established.
Do a poll; who do you trust more to look after scotland, brown or salmond and I reckon after all this b.s. brown would be in single digits.
Then ask the question in england, if they have to have a scotsman in charge, who would they rather have running their country, and you might get an interesting answer!
Posted by: heavy, Glasgow on 10:05am Fri 16 May 08
Despite a few comments regarding The Heralds moderation policies IT more than most other online papers actually allows far more comment than most of the papers down south.

There is a real dilemma for the mass media in the UK. They have protected a hidden hand within our legal and political systems that it is nigh impossible to hold back the tide of dissent as the people waken up to the fact we have been duped for so very long.

We have had a huge propaganda machine pumping up distorted news for so long people have been bamboozled by what is really going on in the UK. Our group have tested MOST of the online papers and the HERALD by a mile is at least trying to allow comment on subjects that were taboo previously.

Our own group have had comments pulled on subjects that were very important to get addressed ,but realise it will take time for the mass media to fully open up to the fact that in the main we have been LIED to for so very long.

With regarding Brown and the headline in question. Both him and bumbling Darling are two scots who have destroyed any hope of remaining part of a UK that has seen a two horse race in our political structure for so long promoted by the same mass media.
Scots have to ask during this centuries old system has the vast inequality been diluted or are we still seeing multi millionaires controlling the direction of policies and who bankroll the tri-party state?
Our political system has never been democratic when the same controllers own all the major parties and most of the media.

Scots must waken up to the fact that the hidden hand has been prompting us to tear each other apart using tribal football vendetta's to ensure we dont vent that anger on the mobsters that are really controlling Scotland and its wealth behind the scenes.Hitler was expert at using SPORT to control the direction he was taking GERMANY.


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Posted by: heavy, Glasgow on 10:05am Fri 16 May 08
Despite a few comments regarding The Heralds moderation policies IT more than most other online papers actually allows far more comment than most of the papers down south.

There is a real dilemma for the mass media in the UK. They have protected a hidden hand within our legal and political systems that it is nigh impossible to hold back the tide of dissent as the people waken up to the fact we have been duped for so very long.

We have had a huge propaganda machine pumping up distorted news for so long people have been bamboozled by what is really going on in the UK. Our group have tested MOST of the online papers and the HERALD by a mile is at least trying to allow comment on subjects that were taboo previously.

Our own group have had comments pulled on subjects that were very important to get addressed ,but realise it will take time for the mass media to fully open up to the fact that in the main we have been LIED to for so very long.

With regarding Brown and the headline in question. Both him and bumbling Darling are two scots who have destroyed any hope of remaining part of a UK that has seen a two horse race in our political structure for so long promoted by the same mass media.
Scots have to ask during this centuries old system has the vast inequality been diluted or are we still seeing multi millionaires controlling the direction of policies and who bankroll the tri-party state?
Our political system has never been democratic when the same controllers own all the major parties and most of the media.

Scots must waken up to the fact that the hidden hand has been prompting us to tear each other apart using tribal football vendetta's to ensure we dont vent that anger on the mobsters that are really controlling Scotland and its wealth behind the scenes.Hitler was expert at using SPORT to control the direction he was taking GERMANY.


Join the growing resistance movement against corruption and
tyranny.

LJPR LEGAL JUDICIAL POLITICAL REFORMERS

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Posted by: Toophingers, Bellshill. on 10:38am Fri 16 May 08
BM wrote:
Trust the man who stole the pension money, sold the gold reserves, imposed mega taxes on fuel, let the banks get out of control with their greed and conspired in the bankrupting and illegal genocide in Iraq. Trust him ? Never! He has single handedly bankrupted the country through his sheer incompetence, so how can he be trusted to rescue it?
When Brown, or any other incompetent Nu Lavatory renegade Scottish minister, says 'trust me' get a tighter grip on your wallet.
Posted by: IJ on 10:43am Fri 16 May 08
Especially interesting to read the comments of Samoyed and Luigi on the future of newspapers in Scotland. Newspaper funders don't "make the right long-term decisions"?

On economics generally, most developed nations have the problem that the PM highlights. The economic crisis is down to global events that the government can deal with - but the electorate don't "make the right long-term decisions".

Newspapers and governments seem to be victims of an unregulated market. Race to the bottom!

Posted by: Jock in the Box, edinburgh on 11:02am Fri 16 May 08
Samoyed, Costa del Menie on 12:31am today

Pehaps a merger between the Hoots ,Weegie,Dandy and Beano might be possible.?They are much of a muchness as far as I can see as far as journalism is concerened.(Appologi
es to the editors of the Dandy and Beano)
Has it ever occurred to newspaper owners that the reason their circulation falls is because you have abandoned any sense of responsibility and publish politically incorrect claptrap,which anyone with half a brain realises is unlikley to be correct,and in some cases just plain daft!

Newspapers are supposed to report the facts! The PRESS in Scotland have been the Labour Partys mouthpiece for far too long.Its not washing anymore gents!
Scotland is growing in confidence and desire for control over her own affairs.Your job is to reflect what happens here by reporting the facts,not issuing Labour Government Press Releases and pretending that they are investigative journalism!
The writing is on the wall.Shape up or ship out!

The Hootsman may be forced into a merger.Their circulation is now almost entirely around Fife and Lothian regions.So much for Scotlands National Newspaper. If I were further north the Press & Journal or the Dundee Courier would get my vote long before either of the two bog rolls we have in the Central belt.
Posted by: preddo53, leeds on 11:12am Fri 16 May 08
george alexander wrote:
COMMENTS BLACKOUT ON SCOTTISH POLITICAL ARTICLES CONTINUES. Casual readers of The Herald should be aware that readers are being prevented from making online comments on Scottish political articles. The Herald blackout also includes articles relating to Rangers football fans. This blackout is the second such from The Herald and follows a similar pattern to the first being that it coincided with the Labour party in apparent turmoil. There has been no explanation forthcoming from The Herald editorial team and we are therefore forced to conclude that online comments are not to the liking of those in authority.
They've been doing it in England for yonks mate but you'll get used to it, the BBC are the worst though, all you have to do on the BBC comment's is disagree with the gov and they censor you, you don't even have to be derogatory. This gov thnk that if they stop you saying what you think you will change you're mind.
Posted by: Scotfree, Erskine on 11:31am Fri 16 May 08
The question no-one seems to have asked is why, with the oil price at a record high, is the British economy not booming? Neither France , Germany Japan etc have the advantage of oil as part of their economy and all other economies with significant oil production are booming so why not Britain? Indeed the record oil prices (which bring in record taxes are being explained as the reason for economic and fiscal problems. I can think of two obvious explanations. Either the Iraq/Afganistan occupation is costing considerably more than is being reported or their is a massive piece of expenditure in the form of the Trident replacement which has to be paid for. Certainly the last time such a replacement (of Polaris with Trident) was demanded by the Americans we had a similar depression in the economy, in the early Thatcher regime. It should be noted that since MacMillan surrendered British nuclear idependance to the Americans Britain has no say over its nuclear capability and has to cough up every time Ameraca changes its system, indeed Britain is effectively paying a substantial part of Americas nuclear weapons development costs for a system over which it has no say or control. An investigative press might also wish to ask why Thatcher and her son have not been investigated, which companies gave John Major his millionaire status and which companies have given Blair his millionaire status.
Posted by: Paul, Castle Douglas on 11:33am Fri 16 May 08
Wullie wrote:
Here we have the twit '' George Alexander '' wittering on like an old sweetie wife . As someone who purports to be an advocate of independence '' George Alexander '' is indeed a phoney. Yesterday he was telling us he was a rangers fan. The most British, arch unionist, loyalist, union jack waving thing in Scotland. '' George '' probably goes to freemason meetings with Donald Findlay QC. Absolutely hilarious. Listen '' George '' most of us on the Herald forum are use to you squealing like a piglet, but the majority of people in Scotland are not use to it. When are you going to behave yourself ? Its hard work for me typing out all these comments, trying to keep you right . Do us all a favour and give us all peace.
You're a well balanced man Wullie. You've got a chip on both shoulders.
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 12:46pm Fri 16 May 08
Thanks Paul, Castle Douglas 11.33 am

Ps. I dont hate Glaswegians, I just think there like children.
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 12:47pm Fri 16 May 08
Thanks Paul, Castle Douglas 11.33 am

Ps. I dont hate Glaswegians, I just think there like children.
Posted by: Grassy Knollington on 1:24pm Fri 16 May 08
preddo53 you're quite right. I didn't actually realise how bad it was in England but the Boris/ Ken mayoral contest really opened my eyes.

The BBC are of course the worst offenders but disappointingly on the night of the result , even more blatantly partial was CH 4 News.

They were obviously bitter about the Newt's defeat and really stuck the boot in to Boris. Intriguingly for such a" right-on " news outfit they also dislike the SNP and Jon Snow, Samira Ahmed and the rest are always condescending and dismissive when speaking to it's party reps.
They are sadly despite their pretensions, Jon Snow's groovy tie collection and attempts to be less dumbed down than the others, just another safe, establishment news programme.

Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 1:48pm Fri 16 May 08
Grassy Knollington and Preddo 53

All the news organisations are lefty liberal. The BBC is the worst at censoring folk with traditional values, that is people who liked the country the way it was in the 1960s and 70s.

Patronising , smug twit, Jon Snow, the wearer of the pink tie and sock is even worse. He is a member of Amnesty International, helping out criminals beat the justice system. In the 1970s , like a do gooding liberal. Jon Snow went off to Uganda to help out Idi Amin. If you want a good news tv station , watch American Fox News. Bill O' Reilly is the best. He's clever, sharp and witty and he exposes the do gooding ,wishy washy, lefty liberals for what they are . Dumb.
Posted by: George Laird, Glasgow on 2:18pm Fri 16 May 08
george alexander wrote:
COMMENTS BLACKOUT ON SCOTTISH POLITICAL ARTICLES CONTINUES. Casual readers of The Herald should be aware that readers are being prevented from making online comments on Scottish political articles. The Herald blackout also includes articles relating to Rangers football fans. This blackout is the second such from The Herald and follows a similar pattern to the first being that it coincided with the Labour party in apparent turmoil. There has been no explanation forthcoming from The Herald editorial team and we are therefore forced to conclude that online comments are not to the liking of those in authority.
Dear George Alexander

Have you considered that you can simply comment on scottish political stories on any open thread?

The flow will be gone but who said life wouldn't be tough.

I am sure that the Labour Party has spoken to the Herald team to get comments banned so that Wendy Alexander can have a relaunch.

Douglas Fraser can get back to "hero worshipping" Alexander and putting the boot into the SNP. At present the poor man has been cast adrift in a ebb and flow of the Atlantic tide unable to say that Alexander is fighting for Scotland.

Of course with no comments, the Herald can then put forward the propaganda of Labour and "polls" saying Labour support has surged.

The Herald's answer to the hole they are in is to keep digging.

It might be an idea after the voluntary "cull" of minor reporters for them to leave that open ended, it will save time when they have to do it again.

Yours sincerely

George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Posted by: George Laird, Glasgow on 2:36pm Fri 16 May 08
Dear All

"Brown: Trust me to sort the UK’s economic problems out".

This is from the man who as chancellor didn't put in place Banking reform and allowed banks to do what they liked.

I don't trust Brown, time and time again we are seeing how finanically incompetant he really is.

The chickens are coming how to roost.

Finally, if Brown is so smart and I see little evidence of that, ask yourself this question, what man would pay £2.7 billion pounds to attempt to buy a seat in the House of Commons?

Answer, Gordon Brown, paying over the odds for a seat in Parliament is bad finanical management.

Yours sincerely

George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Posted by: Im no really here, but over there on 3:08pm Fri 16 May 08
Excuse me Mr Maggie, but it has been YOU who has been at the top of UK politics overseeing the creation of the climate wherein these very problems have grown and flourished. YOU helped create these problems, and now you have the bloody cheek to try and distance yourself from them by claiming to be our saviour. Well seen your doing you Maggie Brown Sermon on the Mound speech.

Just remember: Christ was crucified after His Sermon of the Mount, Maggie Thatcher was crucified at the polls after her Sermon on the Mound. You will be crucified too. Roll on Crewe and Nantwitch.
Posted by: Toophingers, Bellshill. on 3:12pm Fri 16 May 08
Luigi wrote:
Samoyed wrote: From The Sunday TimesMay 11, 2008 Grim news for Scotsman and The Herald Advertising revenues are falling at Scotland's two rival papers and more jobs are going. Can they survive on their own? (Steve Cox) In February The Scotsman’s advertising revenue was down 4.2%. John Penman Six years ago, Andrew Neil prompted outrage when he proposed a merger of the Edinburgh-based Scotsman with its Glasgow rival, The Herald. His rationale was that by combining operations such as advertising, printing and back office functions, while maintaining editorial independence, the titles could continue to thrive. Without the merger, he argued, they would wilt under increasing competition, not least from the Scottish editions of UK nationals. Neil, then running The Scotsman for its owners, the Barclay brothers, was deadly serious and the Barclays came close to persuading The Herald’s then owners, SMG, to sell, but the price and opposition from politicians and journalists — including at least one editor on the Herald titles — put paid to his plans. Although they were willing to pay a premium, the final asking price was too high for the Barclays, but not for Newsquest, the British arm of the US publishing giant Gannett, which won the auction by paying £216m. Within a few months, poor advertising returns meant Newsquest had to cut back, setting a budget freeze that foreshadowed at least two rounds of redundancies. Last week, The Herald again asked for volunteers for redundancy. It said it wants 20 more journalists to go out of a total of 40 job cuts across the company. According to sources at the paper, that would reduce the number of journalists to fewer than 100, two-thirds of the number employed when Newsquest took ownership. Johnston Press, which bought The Scotsman from the Barclays for £160m in 2005, will update the market this week and the expectation is of another tale of woe. In February, Johnston said that advertising was down 4.2%. In figures published last week, The Scotsman’s full-rate circulation has fallen to just under 45,000; its overall figure, including bulks, was just over 50,000, while The Herald’s full-rate figure was just under 64,000. Bulks brought its total up to just over 65,000. Maybe Neil’s merger plan does not look such a bad idea after all. In a documentary on BBC Radio Scotland later this week presented by John McGurk, Neil will suggest parallels with the catastrophic decline of the Clyde shipbuilding industry. That may be a bit dramatic, but what is clear is that the fall in circulation for Scotland’s quality daily press has been sharp. In January 2005, two years into Newsquest’s ownership, The Herald could boast an average sale of 80,700, while the Scotsman was in the mid 60,000s, so where have all the readers gone?
It gets worse, Samoyed, It was just announced on BBC Radio Scotland this morning that the Scottish councils are no longer going to use the national newspapers to advertise jobs etc. Apparently, they have a new website for that purpose. Estimated loss to Scotsman, Herald et al - will be about £6 million a year. GRIM. An american analyst who studies newspaper circulation patterns in the USA reckons the Herald and Scotsman will disappear within the next 10 years.
Hope he's right.
Posted by: Macthickey, Irvine on 3:12pm Fri 16 May 08