
Speaker is cleared over wife’s £4000 bill for taxis
Michael Martin, the Commons Speaker, was yesterday cleared of misusing public funds after his wife Mary spent more than £4000 on taxi journeys to buy food and other goods for her husband.
John Lyon, Westminster's sleaze watchdog, dismissed a complaint from campaign group the Taxpayers' Alliance, making clear that her taxi journeys were "reasonable in all the circumstances".
Indeed, it was revealed that, under the rules, Mrs Martin could have spent not the £4139 she did over four years to this February, but as much as £10,000 as the annual limit is £2500.
The Standards Commissioner explained the Martins had been offered the use of taxis by a previous Clerk of the House to help the Speaker in his work. The "tremendous pressures" of his duties meant Mr Martin could not normally leave parliament. It was made clear neither he nor his wife had asked for the taxi facility.
The report noted Mrs Martin did not drive and the
"alternative" to using taxis,
the UK Government's own chauffeur-driven car service, was more expensive. The Speaker's wife took 146 taxi journeys over four years.
"The events ranged from meetings to private conversations," said the report, but all hospitality provided was "conducted in the course of his official duties".
On taxi journeys to the supermarket, the cab waited for Mrs Martin and her official housekeeper and returned them with their purchases to the Commons.
As well as journeys to the supermarket, there were up to 39 annual visits to smaller shops. Mrs Martin bought "further provisions and perishables", including clothes and table decorations. On these occasions, the cab did not wait and she paid to return. "None of the journeys was for her own use or entertainment," said the report.
There was a very small number of other journeys: two were to the Martins' personal residence in London to store documents and one was to a builder's merchants with an official from the Commons maintenance department to choose materials for work on the Speaker's House.
Mr Lyon concluded that, given the alternative, the costs of Mrs Martin's taxi journeys were "not excessive" but "reasonable in all the circumstances".
The complaint was made in February by Mark Wallace of the Taxpayers' Alliance after reports Mr Martin "abused" his allowances and the use of taxis by his wife might not have been in line with MPs' code of conduct.
Earlier this year, the row led to the resignation of Mike Granatt, the Speaker's spokesman, who said he had inadvertently misled journalists over the details of the shopping trips after being misinformed by the Speaker's officials.
He had been led to believe Mrs Martin had been accompanied by a Commons administrative official when in fact she had been joined by her housekeeper.
Mr Lyon said he was "disturbed and concerned" to see his letter to Mr Wallace, saying he would investigate his complaint and marked "personal and confidential", had been released to the press. "That was not done by my office," insisted the commissioner.
"Such release is not fair on the member who abides by the confidentiality provisions
during the course of the investigation and risks inaccurate speculation about my investigations which only hamper the work and confuse the public."
The report also revealed Mr Martin had expressed concern at the leaked letter, saying it denigrated his wife's character without a right of reply. In releasing Mr Lyon's report, the Commons standards and privileges committee said it too "deprecated" the leak. The MPs made clear they had "no hesitation in endorsing" the commissioner's dismissal of the complaint.
Last night, Mr Wallace said Mrs Martin's taxi journeys appeared to be "more for food for the Martins than for official functions".
He went on: "If so, it's shocking that they are able to use taxpayers' money for taxis to do their domestic grocery shopping. If this is within the rules, then the rules urgently need tightening up."
The Speaker is currently heading up an inquiry into the future of MPs' expenses, due to report before the summer.
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Posted by: Jimbo on 10:07pm Wed 14 May 08
I don't think the result of this Standards Committee inquiry has taken anyone by surprise.
When it was first announced that Mr Martin had been reported to the Standards and Privileges Committee, just about everyone on this forum was able to forecast the outcome of the inquiry.
Parliamentary sleaze now seems to be the accepted norm by the establishment.
In view of this result, David McLetchie should be exonerated re his taxi trips around Edinburgh.
I don't think the result of this Standards Committee inquiry has taken anyone by surprise.
When it was first announced that Mr Martin had been reported to the Standards and Privileges Committee, just about everyone on this forum was able to forecast the outcome of the inquiry.
Parliamentary sleaze now seems to be the accepted norm by the establishment.
In view of this result, David McLetchie should be exonerated re his taxi trips around Edinburgh.
Posted by: Jimbo on 10:28pm Wed 14 May 08
I see we're still not allowed to comment on Wendy stories.
Labour do another U-turn. This time it's on care funding.
A fortnight ago, Labour said it accepted all the recommendations of the Sutherland report which included urging Westminster to return the money.
They will now [bold]not[/bold] back the Scottish Government in pressing Westminster to return the money they withheld on care funding.
Yet another betrayal of the Scottish people (vulnerable pensioners this time) by the Labour Party in Scotland. There seems to be a great deal of political turmoil within the Labour Party at the moment. What they claim to stand for one day, they oppose the next.
Thank your god/gods we have a government that does not constantly have to look over it's shoulder to make sure it has it's Westminster masters consent before they can commit to making policies.
I see we're still not allowed to comment on Wendy stories.
Labour do another U-turn. This time it's on care funding.
A fortnight ago, Labour said it accepted all the recommendations of the Sutherland report which included urging Westminster to return the money.
They will now
not back the Scottish Government in pressing Westminster to return the money they withheld on care funding.
Yet another betrayal of the Scottish people (vulnerable pensioners this time) by the Labour Party in Scotland. There seems to be a great deal of political turmoil within the Labour Party at the moment. What they claim to stand for one day, they oppose the next.
Thank your god/gods we have a government that does not constantly have to look over it's shoulder to make sure it has it's Westminster masters consent before they can commit to making policies.
Posted by: soloman, Stirling on 11:28pm Wed 14 May 08
Where's the justice with these people, fraudulent activity condoned by the man at the top, they might get the message at the next election.
Where's the justice with these people, fraudulent activity condoned by the man at the top, they might get the message at the next election.
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 2:28am Thu 15 May 08
God Almighty. I turned on the Scottish news this evening and to my amazement and horror, I saw 120.000 ranger fans in Manchester strutting around the city like peacocks, beating their breasts to prove how '' gallus '' they are. Talk about delusional. It was like a neds convention. There was two basic types. The thin, pasty faced, weasel looking, undernourished rangers fan. The second type was the fat, bald with the tattoo on the arms. with a fag in one hand and a can of tennents lager in the other hand. Its funny how as soon as the sun shines for 5 minutes, they strip off their shirts and show off to the world their beer bellys. A pretty ugly sight I might add. I couldnt understand a word they said, they spoke about 500 words per minute.Slow down for Gods sake.
For people who like football , its amazing how these celtic and rangers savages are so unathletic, spending their whole day down the boozer. Armchair football fans more like. I coudnt believe the egotism, arrogance and delusion of these ranger fans '' we arra people.'' they shouted and sreamed. Of course the celtic,rangers sectarianism, which is just racism is never, ever mentioned. What a suprise.
I knew Saint Petersburg would stuff the English team, rangers. All the bookies told me. So I rushed down to William Hill and won quite a lot of money. The game was dull, dull ,dull. The rangers players couldnt pass or dribble. It was pathetic. Scottish football has always been like that, bit like the Faroes foootball league without the puffins and seagulls, although rangers players play like puffins. Saint Petersburg versus rangers, men against boys, more like men against 10 year old girls. Anyway the best team won. Well done St Petersburg and congratulations to Dick Advocat. HUZZAH !!
Ps . They all drone on and on about rangers being a Scottish team. I didnt see any Scottish flags. Rangers should be playing in the English league and celtic should be playing in the Irish league.
God Almighty. I turned on the Scottish news this evening and to my amazement and horror, I saw 120.000 ranger fans in Manchester strutting around the city like peacocks, beating their breasts to prove how '' gallus '' they are. Talk about delusional. It was like a neds convention. There was two basic types. The thin, pasty faced, weasel looking, undernourished rangers fan. The second type was the fat, bald with the tattoo on the arms. with a fag in one hand and a can of tennents lager in the other hand. Its funny how as soon as the sun shines for 5 minutes, they strip off their shirts and show off to the world their beer bellys. A pretty ugly sight I might add. I couldnt understand a word they said, they spoke about 500 words per minute.Slow down for Gods sake.
For people who like football , its amazing how these celtic and rangers savages are so unathletic, spending their whole day down the boozer. Armchair football fans more like. I coudnt believe the egotism, arrogance and delusion of these ranger fans '' we arra people.'' they shouted and sreamed. Of course the celtic,rangers sectarianism, which is just racism is never, ever mentioned. What a suprise.
I knew Saint Petersburg would stuff the English team, rangers. All the bookies told me. So I rushed down to William Hill and won quite a lot of money. The game was dull, dull ,dull. The rangers players couldnt pass or dribble. It was pathetic. Scottish football has always been like that, bit like the Faroes foootball league without the puffins and seagulls, although rangers players play like puffins. Saint Petersburg versus rangers, men against boys, more like men against 10 year old girls. Anyway the best team won. Well done St Petersburg and congratulations to Dick Advocat. HUZZAH !!
Ps . They all drone on and on about rangers being a Scottish team. I didnt see any Scottish flags. Rangers should be playing in the English league and celtic should be playing in the Irish league.
Posted by: rob4i, Scottish Borders on 4:37am Thu 15 May 08
What a waste of time and money, all they had to ask at the start was;
"OK who is involved here?, ah, I see, it's the incumbent government's party MP, the speaker of the house, ah yes, well er....try and cover it up better, next time, ok?"
What a waste of time and money, all they had to ask at the start was;
"OK who is involved here?, ah, I see, it's the incumbent government's party MP, the speaker of the house, ah yes, well er....try and cover it up better, next time, ok?"
Posted by: puskas, East Kilbride on 8:24am Thu 15 May 08
[quote][bold]soloman[/bold] wrote:
Where's the justice with these people, fraudulent activity condoned by the man at the top, they might get the message at the next election. [/quote] They will get the message at the next election.
Martin and his taxi scandal is just another nail in the demiss of Liebour.
Sad really . Scotland's people have only 1 viable option..
Vote SNP .. Free from unionism and corruption would be a great start for an independent Scotland.
soloman wrote:
Where's the justice with these people, fraudulent activity condoned by the man at the top, they might get the message at the next election.
They will get the message at the next election.
Martin and his taxi scandal is just another nail in the demiss of Liebour.
Sad really . Scotland's people have only 1 viable option..
Vote SNP .. Free from unionism and corruption would be a great start for an independent Scotland.
Posted by: Free Thinker, North Lanarkshire on 8:39am Thu 15 May 08
Wullie, Aberdeen
lol
I was a Rangers fan when younger (before I woke up) but your observation is spot on... although I did see some Saltire’s in the crowd. Many Rangers and Celtic fans can’t work out the Machiavellian manipulation smothering their various allegiances to ‘other countries’. Divide and conquer. As an aside, the difference between Catholic and Protestant is <0.00001%. For those watching in black & white, research Hegelian Dialectic.
I hope Rangers fans wake up and acknowledge the disgusting way they were treated by Manchester with the deliberate sabotage of the 'big screens'. They will do well to remember their English 'hosts'. And how many fans will now return to financial nightmares because they had to 'savour' the 'atmosphere'... drinking cans in a square in heat with no toilets then no game on 'big screen' just as pubs close their shutters. Don’t worry, nothing going on, there is no conspiracy.
As for the tripe masquerading as news in the ‘story’… £4000.00 gets a lovely holiday for a family of four in the canaries
Wullie, Aberdeen
lol
I was a Rangers fan when younger (before I woke up) but your observation is spot on... although I did see some Saltire’s in the crowd. Many Rangers and Celtic fans can’t work out the Machiavellian manipulation smothering their various allegiances to ‘other countries’. Divide and conquer. As an aside, the difference between Catholic and Protestant is <0.00001%. For those watching in black & white, research Hegelian Dialectic.
I hope Rangers fans wake up and acknowledge the disgusting way they were treated by Manchester with the deliberate sabotage of the 'big screens'. They will do well to remember their English 'hosts'. And how many fans will now return to financial nightmares because they had to 'savour' the 'atmosphere'... drinking cans in a square in heat with no toilets then no game on 'big screen' just as pubs close their shutters. Don’t worry, nothing going on, there is no conspiracy.
As for the tripe masquerading as news in the ‘story’… £4000.00 gets a lovely holiday for a family of four in the canaries
Posted by: puskas, East Kilbride on 8:53am Thu 15 May 08
[quote][bold]Wullie[/bold] wrote:
God Almighty. I turned on the Scottish news this evening and to my amazement and horror, I saw 120.000 ranger fans in Manchester strutting around the city like peacocks, beating their breasts to prove how '' gallus '' they are. Talk about delusional. It was like a neds convention. There was two basic types. The thin, pasty faced, weasel looking, undernourished rangers fan. The second type was the fat, bald with the tattoo on the arms. with a fag in one hand and a can of tennents lager in the other hand. Its funny how as soon as the sun shines for 5 minutes, they strip off their shirts and show off to the world their beer bellys. A pretty ugly sight I might add. I couldnt understand a word they said, they spoke about 500 words per minute.Slow down for Gods sake. For people who like football , its amazing how these celtic and rangers savages are so unathletic, spending their whole day down the boozer. Armchair football fans more like. I coudnt believe the egotism, arrogance and delusion of these ranger fans '' we arra people.'' they shouted and sreamed. Of course the celtic,rangers sectarianism, which is just racism is never, ever mentioned. What a suprise. I knew Saint Petersburg would stuff the English team, rangers. All the bookies told me. So I rushed down to William Hill and won quite a lot of money. The game was dull, dull ,dull. The rangers players couldnt pass or dribble. It was pathetic. Scottish football has always been like that, bit like the Faroes foootball league without the puffins and seagulls, although rangers players play like puffins. Saint Petersburg versus rangers, men against boys, more like men against 10 year old girls. Anyway the best team won. Well done St Petersburg and congratulations to Dick Advocat. HUZZAH !! Ps . They all drone on and on about rangers being a Scottish team. I didnt see any Scottish flags. Rangers should be playing in the English league and celtic should be playing in the Irish league.[/quote] I didn't see any Celtic fans in Manchester Wullie ...
Criticism when due is justified but to mention Celtic and their support is unhealthy when innocent of any crime .
Rangers fans rampage around europe 2007/8 has been virtually ignored by the media. U-tube is a valuable internet truthfinder and it does Rangers Football Club no favours...
Wullie I don't know where you've been hiding son but Scottish football clubs in general have many sectarian and bigoted followers.
Scotlands' shame Rangers Football Club and followers....
I do have sympathy for the decent supporter but sadly as we all know everyone gets tarred by the same brush..
Delete Celtic like a good bhoy now Wullie and you will have retrieved some credibility...
The tragedy in Manchester last night and early morning was not only in the squares but throughout the drinking dens in the centre .
Many pubs had to put shutters up and close due to violence and outright vandalism..
Its been said that appx 150,000 neaderthals travelled the routes to Manchester. Now could these be the same people who made errors during the Holyrood and council elections 2007.. LOL.
Roughly the same figure ....
A wee bit of advice Wullie ... Look no further than your own backyard for unruly travelling supporters...
Wullie wrote:
God Almighty. I turned on the Scottish news this evening and to my amazement and horror, I saw 120.000 ranger fans in Manchester strutting around the city like peacocks, beating their breasts to prove how '' gallus '' they are. Talk about delusional. It was like a neds convention. There was two basic types. The thin, pasty faced, weasel looking, undernourished rangers fan. The second type was the fat, bald with the tattoo on the arms. with a fag in one hand and a can of tennents lager in the other hand. Its funny how as soon as the sun shines for 5 minutes, they strip off their shirts and show off to the world their beer bellys. A pretty ugly sight I might add. I couldnt understand a word they said, they spoke about 500 words per minute.Slow down for Gods sake. For people who like football , its amazing how these celtic and rangers savages are so unathletic, spending their whole day down the boozer. Armchair football fans more like. I coudnt believe the egotism, arrogance and delusion of these ranger fans '' we arra people.'' they shouted and sreamed. Of course the celtic,rangers sectarianism, which is just racism is never, ever mentioned. What a suprise. I knew Saint Petersburg would stuff the English team, rangers. All the bookies told me. So I rushed down to William Hill and won quite a lot of money. The game was dull, dull ,dull. The rangers players couldnt pass or dribble. It was pathetic. Scottish football has always been like that, bit like the Faroes foootball league without the puffins and seagulls, although rangers players play like puffins. Saint Petersburg versus rangers, men against boys, more like men against 10 year old girls. Anyway the best team won. Well done St Petersburg and congratulations to Dick Advocat. HUZZAH !! Ps . They all drone on and on about rangers being a Scottish team. I didnt see any Scottish flags. Rangers should be playing in the English league and celtic should be playing in the Irish league.
I didn't see any Celtic fans in Manchester Wullie ...
Criticism when due is justified but to mention Celtic and their support is unhealthy when innocent of any crime .
Rangers fans rampage around europe 2007/8 has been virtually ignored by the media. U-tube is a valuable internet truthfinder and it does Rangers Football Club no favours...
Wullie I don't know where you've been hiding son but Scottish football clubs in general have many sectarian and bigoted followers.
Scotlands' shame Rangers Football Club and followers....
I do have sympathy for the decent supporter but sadly as we all know everyone gets tarred by the same brush..
Delete Celtic like a good bhoy now Wullie and you will have retrieved some credibility...
The tragedy in Manchester last night and early morning was not only in the squares but throughout the drinking dens in the centre .
Many pubs had to put shutters up and close due to violence and outright vandalism..
Its been said that appx 150,000 neaderthals travelled the routes to Manchester. Now could these be the same people who made errors during the Holyrood and council elections 2007.. LOL.
Roughly the same figure ....
A wee bit of advice Wullie ... Look no further than your own backyard for unruly travelling supporters...
Posted by: GML, right here on 9:37am Thu 15 May 08
Actually Wullie, on the TV I noted a ratio of around five union flags to two saltires hanging round the top deck of the stadium, along with a couple of red hands (inevitably), some blue and white chequered club flags, a lion rampant, a Swedish flag (?), a Dutch flag (right colours) and one in the stands that looked like Cuba, Chile or maybe a US naval pennant (?).
It is a mistake to think all Rangers fans are the same.
I remember being at a game at Ibrox twenty years ago or so, at a time when the Rangers were not doing well, at which fans from the Broomloan Road stand started chanting abuse at fans in the Govan stand. I won't repeat what was said to avoid getting my comment deleted, but the gist of it was that the fans in the Govan stand were too ecumenical and insuffciently loyal, if you see what I mean.
The several Rangers fans I know would definitely be of the 'Govan' variety. However, there are clearly quite a few of the other variety still around, unfortunately.
Actually Wullie, on the TV I noted a ratio of around five union flags to two saltires hanging round the top deck of the stadium, along with a couple of red hands (inevitably), some blue and white chequered club flags, a lion rampant, a Swedish flag (?), a Dutch flag (right colours) and one in the stands that looked like Cuba, Chile or maybe a US naval pennant (?).
It is a mistake to think all Rangers fans are the same.
I remember being at a game at Ibrox twenty years ago or so, at a time when the Rangers were not doing well, at which fans from the Broomloan Road stand started chanting abuse at fans in the Govan stand. I won't repeat what was said to avoid getting my comment deleted, but the gist of it was that the fans in the Govan stand were too ecumenical and insuffciently loyal, if you see what I mean.
The several Rangers fans I know would definitely be of the 'Govan' variety. However, there are clearly quite a few of the other variety still around, unfortunately.
Posted by: sid the sceptic, renfrewshire on 10:31am Thu 15 May 08
so the speaker and his wife did nothing wrong. SURPRISE SURPRISE.
so the speaker and his wife did nothing wrong. SURPRISE SURPRISE.
Posted by: Free Thinker, North Lanarkshire on 11:07am Thu 15 May 08
[bold]£4000.00[/bold] - gets a nice holiday for a family of four in the Canaries...
£4000.00 - gets a nice holiday for a family of four in the Canaries...
Posted by: Toophingers, Bellshill. on 11:21am Thu 15 May 08
The last time I was in London they had big vehicles called buses.
How on earth will her ladyship cope after Independence when she has to go back to mince and tatties.
The last time I was in London they had big vehicles called buses.
How on earth will her ladyship cope after Independence when she has to go back to mince and tatties.
Posted by: ADAM, GLASGOW, Glasgow on 11:42am Thu 15 May 08
What on earth has the behaviour of Rangers fans in Manchester got to do with the Speaker's wife "going the messages" in taxis paid for by us?
What on earth has the behaviour of Rangers fans in Manchester got to do with the Speaker's wife "going the messages" in taxis paid for by us?
Posted by: Wallace, Perth on 11:44am Thu 15 May 08
Another in-house whitewash by MP's dismissing taxpayers' concerns about the greed of Speaker Martin. I'd like to hear this so-called socialist MP's excuse for failing to pay for his wife's taxi journeys (taken for the purpose of shopping!).
Never mind about the weak response that this was "within the rules". It was greed, pure and simple. This man, like other MP's of his snouts-in-the-trough attitude, can well afford to pay for their spouses' taxi fares from their considerable salaries.
Another in-house whitewash by MP's dismissing taxpayers' concerns about the greed of Speaker Martin. I'd like to hear this so-called socialist MP's excuse for failing to pay for his wife's taxi journeys (taken for the purpose of shopping!).
Never mind about the weak response that this was "within the rules". It was greed, pure and simple. This man, like other MP's of his snouts-in-the-trough attitude, can well afford to pay for their spouses' taxi fares from their considerable salaries.
Posted by: allymax, yuk on 7:25pm Sat 17 May 08
Pigs, troughs, grunts of elitism; I'm gonna have tae call the pigs the keystones now, I never thought there would be any other section of society, especially the so-called elites, that would be more suitable to being called pigs than the cops.
Moralising? Ha!
Vote SNP for a better, Fairer, Independent Scotland.
Pigs, troughs, grunts of elitism; I'm gonna have tae call the pigs the keystones now, I never thought there would be any other section of society, especially the so-called elites, that would be more suitable to being called pigs than the cops.
Moralising? Ha!
Vote SNP for a better, Fairer, Independent Scotland.
