Alexander’s poll own-goal leaves Labour FC looking to subs’ bench
Douglas Fraser: "A fifth day of Labour confusion"
Wendy, Wendy, Wendy. Just when his Britannic Majesty is floundering in political quicksand, Labour's leaderene from north of the Border decides this is the time to plonk a dead albatross around his neck. With friends like these...
Yesterday, the Tory toff, energised from last week's poll results and expecting the delivery of another bouncing triumph in Crewe later this month, could not resist trampling all over private Labour grief.
In another attempt to paint Gordy as weak and dithering, Dave asked the Wendy question - did the PM agree with her that there should be a quick referendum on independence.
"That is not what she has said," replied our noble leader. Really? Tories guffawed in disbelief. Gordy then went off on the long and winding road to the Calman Commission or "review" as Westminster likes to call it.
DC frowned heavily, claiming the PM was "losing touch with reality". The words "we are now entering the twilight zone" appeared to be descending from somewhere high in the Commons rafters.
The Tory leader quoted the big W's macho "bring it on" line, again trying to pin GB down. He quipped: "It's not leadership if no-one's really following him."
Again, the PM sought to divert attention away from his esteemed colleague at Holyrood and rambled on about Calman. He insisted what Wendy was doing was pointing to the "hollowness" of the SNP and that their delay in having an independence referendum was against its own manifesto. At which point the word "rubbish" erupted from the Nationalist benches.
Mr C ended his Scottish skirmish by claiming it was clear Gordy had "lost control of the Scottish Labour Party" and moved on to other matters, flinging insults at his Britannic Majesty.
By far the most acerbic came when the Tory leader, to rising Conservative delirium, said: "This is the Prime Minister who went on American Idol with more make-up on than Barbara Cartland. He sits in Downing St waiting for Shakira to call, waiting for George Clooney to come to tea. I've got a bit of advice for him: why doesn't he give up the PR and start being a PM."
Gordy hit back by accusing his opposite number of being just style over substance. But the damage was done. Among les miserables on the Labour benches buttocks were being clenched and teeth were grinding away. Indeed, it was noticeable
how many back benchers
on the UK Government side began to leave PMQs early like football fans deserting the terraces, knowing their team has lost and hoping to escape the mad rush at the final whistle.
Of course, the match is not over yet but Labour FC is running out of time to save it. The question beginning to be asked is - is the captain up to it or is there a super-sub hiding on the bench?
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Posted by: Vivas, Embra on 10:41pm Wed 7 May 08
After you lads and lassies...
...fire at will !
After you lads and lassies...
...fire at will !
Posted by: Duns Scotus, The Borders on 10:42pm Wed 7 May 08
The thought of an independent Scotland eliminating the Labour Party must be very tempting for Cameron. What will Greyfriars Goldie do when she realises the Union is dead?
The thought of an independent Scotland eliminating the Labour Party must be very tempting for Cameron. What will Greyfriars Goldie do when she realises the Union is dead?
Posted by: nouveauxscum on 10:46pm Wed 7 May 08
Difficult to take the pish when when it's all been covered in the article.
LOL
Difficult to take the pish when when it's all been covered in the article.
LOL
Posted by: Duns Scotus, The Borders on 10:50pm Wed 7 May 08
I smell conspiracy here. Instead of a referendum, Gazza Broon wants a penalty shoot out and he wants Jackie Baillie as his goalkeeper.
I smell conspiracy here. Instead of a referendum, Gazza Broon wants a penalty shoot out and he wants Jackie Baillie as his goalkeeper.
Posted by: megz, glasgow on 10:51pm Wed 7 May 08
did anyone see wendy talking to brian taylor on the news? You saw her quickly looking at a sheet of paper (crib sheet from westminster HQ with her script) and she backpeddled furiously echoing browns words from pmqs with very little credibility. She should do herself a favour and take a duvet day tomorrow.
did anyone see wendy talking to brian taylor on the news? You saw her quickly looking at a sheet of paper (crib sheet from westminster HQ with her script) and she backpeddled furiously echoing browns words from pmqs with very little credibility. She should do herself a favour and take a duvet day tomorrow.
Posted by: nouveauxscum on 10:56pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]megz[/bold] wrote:
did anyone see wendy talking to brian taylor on the news? You saw her quickly looking at a sheet of paper (crib sheet from westminster HQ with her script) and she backpeddled furiously echoing browns words from pmqs with very little credibility. She should do herself a favour and take a duvet day tomorrow.[/quote] Naaaaaaaaaaaw Megz
Am lookin' forward tae FMQ's the morra.
lol
megz wrote:
did anyone see wendy talking to brian taylor on the news? You saw her quickly looking at a sheet of paper (crib sheet from westminster HQ with her script) and she backpeddled furiously echoing browns words from pmqs with very little credibility. She should do herself a favour and take a duvet day tomorrow.
Naaaaaaaaaaaw Megz
Am lookin' forward tae FMQ's the morra.
lol
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 10:57pm Wed 7 May 08
Saw David Cameron ripping Gordon Broon to shreds.
Cameron said
''Do you agree with Wendy's wweffawendumm ?''
Gordon Broon said
Blah, blah, waffle, waffle, Calman commission, blah, blah.
David Cameron said
'I''ll ask a second time, Wendy said '' Bring it oan the wweffawendumm
yaa bass. Do you agree with that.''
Broon said
''Blah, blah, waffle, waffle, Calman commision, blah, blah.''
Wendy is just a skivvy. I think Brooon is telling lies.
Saw David Cameron ripping Gordon Broon to shreds.
Cameron said
''Do you agree with Wendy's wweffawendumm ?''
Gordon Broon said
Blah, blah, waffle, waffle, Calman commission, blah, blah.
David Cameron said
'I''ll ask a second time, Wendy said '' Bring it oan the wweffawendumm
yaa bass. Do you agree with that.''
Broon said
''Blah, blah, waffle, waffle, Calman commision, blah, blah.''
Wendy is just a skivvy. I think Brooon is telling lies.
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 10:59pm Wed 7 May 08
this isnt even funny anymore labour are a disgrace for an oppostion party or a government..........
...........
democracy needs effective opposition and effective government we have neither with the labour party.
this isnt even funny anymore labour are a disgrace for an oppostion party or a government..........
...........
democracy needs effective opposition and effective government we have neither with the labour party.
Posted by: megz, glasgow on 10:59pm Wed 7 May 08
lol well inkeeping with the football analagy it is time...for a permanent substitution of the slab leader. ooh newsnights on.
lol well inkeeping with the football analagy it is time...for a permanent substitution of the slab leader. ooh newsnights on.
Posted by: Duns Scotus, The Borders on 11:00pm Wed 7 May 08
Watch Brown waffle in short video clip (about 1 min 40 secs in). Explaining Bendy's position he says " waffle waffle ... that sh!t what she was pointing out ..."
http://news.b
bc.co.uk/1/hi/sc
otland/7387669.stm
Watch Brown waffle in short video clip (about 1 min 40 secs in). Explaining Bendy's position he says " waffle waffle ... that sh!t what she was pointing out ..."
http://news.b
bc.co.uk/1/hi/sc
otland/7387669.stm
Posted by: Vivas, Embra on 11:00pm Wed 7 May 08
It's just such an impossible mess for SLAB, Wendy and Toom Tabbard that I just can't resist typing some of this out again.
Their options from where they are now:
1. Wendy/Broon agree that its all just been sabre-rattling anti-SNP rhetoric.
or
2. SLAB can't raise a Holyrood bill so Toom Tabbard does a U-turn and Westminster Labour have to lash-up an independence referendum, just at the same time as they're wrapping themselves in their British values propaganda/bill of rights. Plus explain the logic of EU referendum bad/Scottish referendum good to 50million antipithetic English citizens.
or
3. Wendy, now a "bring it on, I don't fear the verdict" referendum backer, has to make another 180 degree turn by 2010 and vote against any SNP referndum proposals.
or ....
I could go on all night (and probably will).
Anyway, Newsnight now :-)))
It's just such an impossible mess for SLAB, Wendy and Toom Tabbard that I just can't resist typing some of this out again.
Their options from where they are now:
1. Wendy/Broon agree that its all just been sabre-rattling anti-SNP rhetoric.
or
2. SLAB can't raise a Holyrood bill so Toom Tabbard does a U-turn and Westminster Labour have to lash-up an independence referendum, just at the same time as they're wrapping themselves in their British values propaganda/bill of rights. Plus explain the logic of EU referendum bad/Scottish referendum good to 50million antipithetic English citizens.
or
3. Wendy, now a "bring it on, I don't fear the verdict" referendum backer, has to make another 180 degree turn by 2010 and vote against any SNP referndum proposals.
or ....
I could go on all night (and probably will).
Anyway, Newsnight now :-)))
Posted by: Astonished, Inverclyde on 11:00pm Wed 7 May 08
There is no skill in shooting fish when they decide to swim into the barrel.
Although I loved the comment, Vivas. I also note you did not bring your considerable guns to bear.( I have always felt if you get a good metaphor -Run with it !)
It is noteworthy that no one from the "vermin" who blog for the SNP has decided to kick Wendy now she is down.
Alf ,Dougie and the lady Isobel's unquestioning bias should not be forgotten. For Scotland to prosper we need honest reporting, nothing more, nothing less.
This is a fiaasco of their ,as well as her, making.
There is no skill in shooting fish when they decide to swim into the barrel.
Although I loved the comment, Vivas. I also note you did not bring your considerable guns to bear.( I have always felt if you get a good metaphor -Run with it !)
It is noteworthy that no one from the "vermin" who blog for the SNP has decided to kick Wendy now she is down.
Alf ,Dougie and the lady Isobel's unquestioning bias should not be forgotten. For Scotland to prosper we need honest reporting, nothing more, nothing less.
This is a fiaasco of their ,as well as her, making.
Posted by: Astonished, Inverclyde on 11:02pm Wed 7 May 08
Fiaasco is an unsual word which means fiasco with extra stress!
Fiaasco is an unsual word which means fiasco with extra stress!
Posted by: Ben Lomond, Ardlui on 11:03pm Wed 7 May 08
Well, I think we're all losing touch with reality, not just the PM. When I say reality I mean reality as we've known it. You know, that thing that's quite solid and always there and always the same and doesn't give way when you step on it.
Since the weekend political reality in Scotland has come to seem unreal and insubstantial and unclear and liable to change into something else again at any minute, thanks to Ms Alexander.
Disturbing though this may all be, this is a good sign. It means that we have entered into a period of real and substantial change, in which the stuff of political reality is no longer continuity but has become discontinuity. I'm not going too fast for you, am I?
Enough said: everything's changing. The foundations for truly substantial constitutional change are being laid.
Well, I think we're all losing touch with reality, not just the PM. When I say reality I mean reality as we've known it. You know, that thing that's quite solid and always there and always the same and doesn't give way when you step on it.
Since the weekend political reality in Scotland has come to seem unreal and insubstantial and unclear and liable to change into something else again at any minute, thanks to Ms Alexander.
Disturbing though this may all be, this is a good sign. It means that we have entered into a period of real and substantial change, in which the stuff of political reality is no longer continuity but has become discontinuity. I'm not going too fast for you, am I?
Enough said: everything's changing. The foundations for truly substantial constitutional change are being laid.
Posted by: Im no really here, but over there on 11:15pm Wed 7 May 08
Yet another night when we aren't allowed access to comment on the main article in the Wendy saga. Well, we'll just use this thread instead. So we won't have a Wendy Wefewendum, but will we have a Brown one. I doubt it with the trouble he is in down south, ad it would scupper the Calman Commission.[quote]"Wendy Alexander and I are agreed that all parties in favour of the Union have a duty to expose the hollowness of the SNP's position: claiming they favour independence yet wanting to postpone any referendum. I thought the Conservative Party would welcome such an approach," added Mr Brown.[/quote] This is a blatant lie as the SNP has not changed it's original policy one bit. Whereas Labour have totally reversed everything they were saying about a referendum one year ago.
Yet another night when we aren't allowed access to comment on the main article in the Wendy saga. Well, we'll just use this thread instead. So we won't have a Wendy Wefewendum, but will we have a Brown one. I doubt it with the trouble he is in down south, ad it would scupper the Calman Commission.
"Wendy Alexander and I are agreed that all parties in favour of the Union have a duty to expose the hollowness of the SNP's position: claiming they favour independence yet wanting to postpone any referendum. I thought the Conservative Party would welcome such an approach," added Mr Brown.
This is a blatant lie as the SNP has not changed it's original policy one bit. Whereas Labour have totally reversed everything they were saying about a referendum one year ago.
Posted by: Clare, Lanarkshire on 11:16pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]Karin[/bold] wrote:
this isnt even funny anymore labour are a disgrace for an oppostion party or a government.......... ........... democracy needs effective opposition and effective government we have neither with the labour party. [/quote] Karin, you listening to Ian Gray on Newsnight Scotland? Its excruciating.
Karin wrote:
this isnt even funny anymore labour are a disgrace for an oppostion party or a government.......... ........... democracy needs effective opposition and effective government we have neither with the labour party.
Karin, you listening to Ian Gray on Newsnight Scotland? Its excruciating.
Posted by: Clare, Lanarkshire on 11:18pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]Im no really here[/bold] wrote:
Yet another night when we aren't allowed access to comment on the main article in the Wendy saga. Well, we'll just use this thread instead. So we won't have a Wendy Wefewendum, but will we have a Brown one. I doubt it with the trouble he is in down south, ad it would scupper the Calman Commission.[quote]"Wendy Alexander and I are agreed that all parties in favour of the Union have a duty to expose the hollowness of the SNP's position: claiming they favour independence yet wanting to postpone any referendum. I thought the Conservative Party would welcome such an approach," added Mr Brown.[/quote] This is a blatant lie as the SNP has not changed it's original policy one bit. Whereas Labour have totally reversed everything they were saying about a referendum one year ago.[/quote] I'm No, hi.
Apparently an SNP MP raised a point of order on that and corrected Brown's version of the manifesto commitment. He made it quite clear that no postponement was involved on the part of the Scottish Government.
Im no really here wrote:
Yet another night when we aren't allowed access to comment on the main article in the Wendy saga. Well, we'll just use this thread instead. So we won't have a Wendy Wefewendum, but will we have a Brown one. I doubt it with the trouble he is in down south, ad it would scupper the Calman Commission."Wendy Alexander and I are agreed that all parties in favour of the Union have a duty to expose the hollowness of the SNP's position: claiming they favour independence yet wanting to postpone any referendum. I thought the Conservative Party would welcome such an approach," added Mr Brown.
This is a blatant lie as the SNP has not changed it's original policy one bit. Whereas Labour have totally reversed everything they were saying about a referendum one year ago.
I'm No, hi.
Apparently an SNP MP raised a point of order on that and corrected Brown's version of the manifesto commitment. He made it quite clear that no postponement was involved on the part of the Scottish Government.
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 11:20pm Wed 7 May 08
Saw Alex Salmond on newsnight and it was nice to see the Scottish flag behind Alex Salmond in the correct azure blue colour instead of dark navy blue. When you see liebour politicians, they are always waving the '' Red flag '' of the old Soviet Union, never the Scottish flag. Funny that.
Saw Alex Salmond on newsnight and it was nice to see the Scottish flag behind Alex Salmond in the correct azure blue colour instead of dark navy blue. When you see liebour politicians, they are always waving the '' Red flag '' of the old Soviet Union, never the Scottish flag. Funny that.
Posted by: nouveauxscum on 11:21pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]Clare[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Karin[/bold] wrote: this isnt even funny anymore labour are a disgrace for an oppostion party or a government.......... ........... democracy needs effective opposition and effective government we have neither with the labour party. [/quote] Karin, you listening to Ian Gray on Newsnight Scotland? Its excruciating. [/quote] It's hilarious and should top youtube polls for some time - Brewer has humiliated him......no he humiliated himself.
Feck me that was bad good bad.
lol
Clare wrote:
Karin wrote: this isnt even funny anymore labour are a disgrace for an oppostion party or a government.......... ........... democracy needs effective opposition and effective government we have neither with the labour party.
Karin, you listening to Ian Gray on Newsnight Scotland? Its excruciating.
It's hilarious and should top youtube polls for some time - Brewer has humiliated him......no he humiliated himself.
Feck me that was bad good bad.
lol
Posted by: megz, glasgow on 11:22pm Wed 7 May 08
oh that was painful. and yet very enjoyable. Poor ian, between stuttering over his words and his eye twitching like mad i almost felt sorry for him. Well done gordon brewer, not often you can say that.
oh that was painful. and yet very enjoyable. Poor ian, between stuttering over his words and his eye twitching like mad i almost felt sorry for him. Well done gordon brewer, not often you can say that.
Posted by: Peter Thomson, The Union is Dead on 11:26pm Wed 7 May 08
On Sunday Wendy says she is calling Wee Eck's bluff and will push for an early referendum.
Nicol, Annabelle and Calman have no clue as to what she is going on about and are feeling very upset. Millbank Labour say the equivalent of she's on her own. Unionist media in Scotland go into overdrive saying their usual formulaic Salmond is doomed and this is a brilliant move by Wendy.
Monday Wendy turns up on mainstream news and makes a total horlicks of her case. Alan Cochrane in the Torygraph turns through 180 degrees between Monday and Tuesday from isn't she great to what a total numpty. Brian of the braces claims that he is confused and the Hootsmon peddles Alan Cochrane's Yougov Torygraph poll as reality even though Cochrane by Tuesday is saying the poll is not accurate and a 40%+ vote for independence most likely.
Tuesday comes and we find that Wendy's can not put a bill in place as the SNP Government already has one programmed - so tough ! Labour MP's are mainly saying she is a loose cannon and this is the last thing they want after the thumping on May 1st.
Wednesday we are told that the Labour MSP's are solidly behind her but Brownovitch stuffs that by 1205 BST by saying she is on her own, nothing to do with me gov, must of misheard her Mr Cameron........... Wednesday night Wendy spins round the news programs trying to missay what she said on Sunday was not what she said on Sunday.
In the mean time the Police Complaints Commission are investigating Strathclyde Police's failings when investigating Wendy's many misdemeanour's and illegal fund raising scams.
Then last week an oil spokesman let slip that the UK Exchequer is going to make £23.5 Billion+ in taxes from oil and gas from the Scottish Sector in 2008 - 2009.
Is it just me or are the SNP getting a lot of free publicity from Labour's ineptitude?
On Sunday Wendy says she is calling Wee Eck's bluff and will push for an early referendum.
Nicol, Annabelle and Calman have no clue as to what she is going on about and are feeling very upset. Millbank Labour say the equivalent of she's on her own. Unionist media in Scotland go into overdrive saying their usual formulaic Salmond is doomed and this is a brilliant move by Wendy.
Monday Wendy turns up on mainstream news and makes a total horlicks of her case. Alan Cochrane in the Torygraph turns through 180 degrees between Monday and Tuesday from isn't she great to what a total numpty. Brian of the braces claims that he is confused and the Hootsmon peddles Alan Cochrane's Yougov Torygraph poll as reality even though Cochrane by Tuesday is saying the poll is not accurate and a 40%+ vote for independence most likely.
Tuesday comes and we find that Wendy's can not put a bill in place as the SNP Government already has one programmed - so tough ! Labour MP's are mainly saying she is a loose cannon and this is the last thing they want after the thumping on May 1st.
Wednesday we are told that the Labour MSP's are solidly behind her but Brownovitch stuffs that by 1205 BST by saying she is on her own, nothing to do with me gov, must of misheard her Mr Cameron........... Wednesday night Wendy spins round the news programs trying to missay what she said on Sunday was not what she said on Sunday.
In the mean time the Police Complaints Commission are investigating Strathclyde Police's failings when investigating Wendy's many misdemeanour's and illegal fund raising scams.
Then last week an oil spokesman let slip that the UK Exchequer is going to make £23.5 Billion+ in taxes from oil and gas from the Scottish Sector in 2008 - 2009.
Is it just me or are the SNP getting a lot of free publicity from Labour's ineptitude?
Posted by: Vivas, Embra on 11:28pm Wed 7 May 08
Christ, Ian Gray is considered one of SLAB's safer pair of hands so no surprise that they put him in the Newsnight firing line tonight.
And Gordon Brewer just tore him to tiny tiny shreds for his incessant assertion that black is white, up is down, that 1 = 0 and that Wendy and Toom Tabbard are saying the same thing..
I almost felt sorry for Gray.
Almost, but not quite.
Christ, Ian Gray is considered one of SLAB's safer pair of hands so no surprise that they put him in the Newsnight firing line tonight.
And Gordon Brewer just tore him to tiny tiny shreds for his incessant assertion that black is white, up is down, that 1 = 0 and that Wendy and Toom Tabbard are saying the same thing..
I almost felt sorry for Gray.
Almost, but not quite.
Posted by: Duns Scotus, The Borders on 11:29pm Wed 7 May 08
From the front-page story on which no comments are invited:
[quote]Ms Alexander insisted she would not quit, claiming she had the support of the PM, Labour MSPs, many party members and the people of Scotland[/quote] She has my support to and I'm sure, the support of Michelle Moan.
From the front-page story on which no comments are invited:
Ms Alexander insisted she would not quit, claiming she had the support of the PM, Labour MSPs, many party members and the people of Scotland
She has my support to and I'm sure, the support of Michelle Moan.
Posted by: Jimbo on 11:29pm Wed 7 May 08
Just watched Ian Gray get minced on Newsnight. His backside must have been biting lumps out of his chair going by the amount of squirming he was doing.
His face got redder and redder and his eye twitched faster and faster as he struggled to put forward a cohesive argument in defence of Wendy Alexander.
This Labour party in Scotland are so badly damaged they are now beyond repair.
Just watched Ian Gray get minced on Newsnight. His backside must have been biting lumps out of his chair going by the amount of squirming he was doing.
His face got redder and redder and his eye twitched faster and faster as he struggled to put forward a cohesive argument in defence of Wendy Alexander.
This Labour party in Scotland are so badly damaged they are now beyond repair.
Posted by: Tearlach, Sutherland on 11:30pm Wed 7 May 08
Still chuckling from watching Newsnight Scotland - Gray was hung out to dry. He was clearly having to defend the indefensible, and by gosh he knew it. Strangely enough I remember Gray from school, in Inverness. Pleasant chap, but the phrase "nice but dim" comes to mind. And remember he was Enterprise Minister after Wendy left in a strop - Oh and then he lost his seat.......
On the other hand the FM could obviously not believe his luck.
You know it just struck me today that we may be entering the end game.
Still chuckling from watching Newsnight Scotland - Gray was hung out to dry. He was clearly having to defend the indefensible, and by gosh he knew it. Strangely enough I remember Gray from school, in Inverness. Pleasant chap, but the phrase "nice but dim" comes to mind. And remember he was Enterprise Minister after Wendy left in a strop - Oh and then he lost his seat.......
On the other hand the FM could obviously not believe his luck.
You know it just struck me today that we may be entering the end game.
Posted by: megz, glasgow on 11:31pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote]In response, Mr Brown told Mr Cameron his comments "clearly show that you do not understand this important issue", saying how Holyrood procedures meant a referendum bill would take up to a year to complete.[/quote]
erm there have been bills put through already and under 6 months so i'd suggest perhaps ms alexanser and mr brown are the ones that don't understand holyrood procedures. We already knew wendy didn't, be it registering donations or knowing that you can't actually bring forward a members bill if it is something the government are going to be bringing forward. I quite liked nicols assertation that wendy and gordon were talking to each other but they were talking in different languages (very funny for him)
In response, Mr Brown told Mr Cameron his comments "clearly show that you do not understand this important issue", saying how Holyrood procedures meant a referendum bill would take up to a year to complete.
erm there have been bills put through already and under 6 months so i'd suggest perhaps ms alexanser and mr brown are the ones that don't understand holyrood procedures. We already knew wendy didn't, be it registering donations or knowing that you can't actually bring forward a members bill if it is something the government are going to be bringing forward. I quite liked nicols assertation that wendy and gordon were talking to each other but they were talking in different languages (very funny for him)
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 11:42pm Wed 7 May 08
Not for the Fainthearted… £1m comedy will close film festival
found this and thought it was about wendy and broon.
Not for the Fainthearted… £1m comedy will close film festival
found this and thought it was about wendy and broon.
Posted by: Grubby, Witchy's Haus on 11:43pm Wed 7 May 08
Yes, I,ve just seen Iain Gray on Newsnicht. Wow. Awesome man
Now that I've changed my undergarments(wet from laughter), I,ve got to say that this was bizzare in the extreme!. These Nulabour creatures must think our heads button up the back! You can safely say that Nulabour are now in terminal decline:summer should be fun, watching Nulabour(Scottish branch), rip themselves asunder
Enjoy!
Yes, I,ve just seen Iain Gray on Newsnicht. Wow. Awesome man
Now that I've changed my undergarments(wet from laughter), I,ve got to say that this was bizzare in the extreme!. These Nulabour creatures must think our heads button up the back! You can safely say that Nulabour are now in terminal decline:summer should be fun, watching Nulabour(Scottish branch), rip themselves asunder
Enjoy!
Posted by: Duns Scotus, The Borders on 11:44pm Wed 7 May 08
[bold]Tearlach[/bold] says,[quote]You know it just struck me today that we may be entering the end game.[/quote] This is a perceptive comment.
The pace of change in the world is so rapid it leaves you breathless.
The Internet is the 21st century's equivalent of Gutenberg's moveable type. which changed the course of history.
Consider how the various Soviet states left their Union. Think how quickly the Berlin Wall came down and Germany was united. Things that seem impossible dreams, suddenly happened.
The dependency parties' dam that has held back the aspirations of Scotland for 300 years has been cracking up for about 30 years. It may take just 3 years to see it burst completely.
"[italic]Cracking dam Gromit[/italic] !"
Tearlach says,
You know it just struck me today that we may be entering the end game.
This is a perceptive comment.
The pace of change in the world is so rapid it leaves you breathless.
The Internet is the 21st century's equivalent of Gutenberg's moveable type. which changed the course of history.
Consider how the various Soviet states left their Union. Think how quickly the Berlin Wall came down and Germany was united. Things that seem impossible dreams, suddenly happened.
The dependency parties' dam that has held back the aspirations of Scotland for 300 years has been cracking up for about 30 years. It may take just 3 years to see it burst completely.
"
Cracking dam Gromit !"
Posted by: Jimbo on 11:45pm Wed 7 May 08
From tonight's Times Online:
tinyurl.com/5by86h
[italic]David Cameron put Mr Brown under pressure to say whether he backed Ms Alexander. Asked by the Tory leader whether he agreed with her that there should be a referendum now, Mr Brown said: “It is not what she has said.[/italic] ...
...The Prime Minister insisted that she was referring to the hollowness of the SNP who had promised an immediate referendum but would not now hold one until 2011.
According to Alexander:
[italic]“The Prime Minister and I are agreed about exposing the hollowness of the SNP's position, claiming they favour independence, yet wanting to hold a referendum in only 2010 or 2011.
“David Cameron is wrong. His question showed his continuing lack of understanding of the process. The Prime Minister was right to say no one was proposing a referendum at Westminster.
“The procedures of the Scottish Parliament mean that even if the SNP or anyone else introduced a Bill at Holyrood it could take up to 12 months to be considered.”[/italic]
It looks as if Ms Alexander, (and according to her) in collusion with Mr Brown, have painted the Labour Party into a corner.
It's obvious they still haven't come to terms with the rules of the devolved government.
Once reality dawns on them that Alexander is in no position to bring forward this Bill, and having stated that Brown has no intention of doing so, how do they think they can bring this bill forward?
Having now committed her party to a referendum that she has no power to bring about, how can they now vote against the SNP Referendum Bill in 2010?
Will Wendy do a spectacular U-U-turn?
From tonight's Times Online:
tinyurl.com/5by86h
David Cameron put Mr Brown under pressure to say whether he backed Ms Alexander. Asked by the Tory leader whether he agreed with her that there should be a referendum now, Mr Brown said: “It is not what she has said. ...
...The Prime Minister insisted that she was referring to the hollowness of the SNP who had promised an immediate referendum but would not now hold one until 2011.
According to Alexander:
“The Prime Minister and I are agreed about exposing the hollowness of the SNP's position, claiming they favour independence, yet wanting to hold a referendum in only 2010 or 2011.
“David Cameron is wrong. His question showed his continuing lack of understanding of the process. The Prime Minister was right to say no one was proposing a referendum at Westminster.
“The procedures of the Scottish Parliament mean that even if the SNP or anyone else introduced a Bill at Holyrood it could take up to 12 months to be considered.”
It looks as if Ms Alexander, (and according to her) in collusion with Mr Brown, have painted the Labour Party into a corner.
It's obvious they still haven't come to terms with the rules of the devolved government.
Once reality dawns on them that Alexander is in no position to bring forward this Bill, and having stated that Brown has no intention of doing so, how do they think they can bring this bill forward?
Having now committed her party to a referendum that she has no power to bring about, how can they now vote against the SNP Referendum Bill in 2010?
Will Wendy do a spectacular U-U-turn?
Posted by: Old Tam, Glasgow on 11:45pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]Duns Scotus[/bold] wrote:
From the front-page story on which no comments are invited: [quote]Ms Alexander insisted she would not quit, claiming she had the support of the PM, Labour MSPs, many party members and the people of Scotland[/quote] She has my support to and I'm sure, the support of Michelle Moan.[/quote] Moan will always provide support to those diddies. It's her job.
Duns Scotus wrote:
From the front-page story on which no comments are invited: Ms Alexander insisted she would not quit, claiming she had the support of the PM, Labour MSPs, many party members and the people of Scotland
She has my support to and I'm sure, the support of Michelle Moan.
Moan will always provide support to those diddies. It's her job.
Posted by: Im no really here, but over there on 11:46pm Wed 7 May 08
I love it seeing the other, minor parties running about like headless chickens, and Sir Ek and the SNP have said NOTHING. As pointed out in the "Twists and Turns" article, the one constant has been the SNP position and what they have stated in their manifesto.
I love it seeing the other, minor parties running about like headless chickens, and Sir Ek and the SNP have said NOTHING. As pointed out in the "Twists and Turns" article, the one constant has been the SNP position and what they have stated in their manifesto.
Posted by: Jimbo on 11:46pm Wed 7 May 08
From tonight's Times Online:
tinyurl.com/5by86h
[italic]David Cameron put Mr Brown under pressure to say whether he backed Ms Alexander. Asked by the Tory leader whether he agreed with her that there should be a referendum now, Mr Brown said: “It is not what she has said.[/italic] ...
...The Prime Minister insisted that she was referring to the hollowness of the SNP who had promised an immediate referendum but would not now hold one until 2011.
According to Alexander:
[italic]“The Prime Minister and I are agreed about exposing the hollowness of the SNP's position, claiming they favour independence, yet wanting to hold a referendum in only 2010 or 2011.
“David Cameron is wrong. His question showed his continuing lack of understanding of the process. The Prime Minister was right to say no one was proposing a referendum at Westminster.
“The procedures of the Scottish Parliament mean that even if the SNP or anyone else introduced a Bill at Holyrood it could take up to 12 months to be considered.”[/italic]
It looks as if Ms Alexander, (and according to her) in collusion with Mr Brown, have painted the Labour Party into a corner.
It's obvious they still haven't come to terms with the rules of the devolved government.
Once reality dawns on them that Alexander is in no position to bring forward this Bill, and having stated that Brown has no intention of doing so, how do they think they can bring this bill forward?
Having now committed her party to a referendum that she has no power to bring about, how can they now vote against the SNP Referendum Bill in 2010?
Will Wendy do a spectacular U-U-turn?
From tonight's Times Online:
tinyurl.com/5by86h
David Cameron put Mr Brown under pressure to say whether he backed Ms Alexander. Asked by the Tory leader whether he agreed with her that there should be a referendum now, Mr Brown said: “It is not what she has said. ...
...The Prime Minister insisted that she was referring to the hollowness of the SNP who had promised an immediate referendum but would not now hold one until 2011.
According to Alexander:
“The Prime Minister and I are agreed about exposing the hollowness of the SNP's position, claiming they favour independence, yet wanting to hold a referendum in only 2010 or 2011.
“David Cameron is wrong. His question showed his continuing lack of understanding of the process. The Prime Minister was right to say no one was proposing a referendum at Westminster.
“The procedures of the Scottish Parliament mean that even if the SNP or anyone else introduced a Bill at Holyrood it could take up to 12 months to be considered.”
It looks as if Ms Alexander, (and according to her) in collusion with Mr Brown, have painted the Labour Party into a corner.
It's obvious they still haven't come to terms with the rules of the devolved government.
Once reality dawns on them that Alexander is in no position to bring forward this Bill, and having stated that Brown has no intention of doing so, how do they think they can bring this bill forward?
Having now committed her party to a referendum that she has no power to bring about, how can they now vote against the SNP Referendum Bill in 2010?
Will Wendy do a spectacular U-U-turn?
Posted by: Tearlach, Sutherland on 11:47pm Wed 7 May 08
Looks like the the Daily Mail is starting to get worried
http://tinyurl.com/4
zgoyh
It's completely laughable (well it is the Mail), but something tells me it's just the start of a concerted disinformation campaign.
Looks like the the Daily Mail is starting to get worried
http://tinyurl.com/4
zgoyh
It's completely laughable (well it is the Mail), but something tells me it's just the start of a concerted disinformation campaign.
Posted by: Vivas, Embra on 11:47pm Wed 7 May 08
Amazingly, Gray is by far from being the worst of the SLAB MSP's.
I can only imagine the scale of the bl00dy carnage that Brewer would have inflicted on Baillie or Jamieson or Kerr.
Amazingly, Gray is by far from being the worst of the SLAB MSP's.
I can only imagine the scale of the bl00dy carnage that Brewer would have inflicted on Baillie or Jamieson or Kerr.
Posted by: megz, glasgow on 11:49pm Wed 7 May 08
i have a theory. Now hear me out, I reckon that wee wendy is finding the job as leader of the labour msps at holyrood to be too demanding. Now she knows that Gordon doesn't want her to quit, but she's finding it way too hot in the kitchen and is doing her best to get fired. It beggars belief that someone with her purported intellect can be so consistently incompetent. Course i could be wrong.
i have a theory. Now hear me out, I reckon that wee wendy is finding the job as leader of the labour msps at holyrood to be too demanding. Now she knows that Gordon doesn't want her to quit, but she's finding it way too hot in the kitchen and is doing her best to get fired. It beggars belief that someone with her purported intellect can be so consistently incompetent. Course i could be wrong.
Posted by: greenfinger, lothians on 11:51pm Wed 7 May 08
Bendy is loopy. And that's another fine mess GB has got himself into. He should have sacked her when he had the chance, she's as much common sense as a pheasant trying to crossing the M74!
And she'll last about as long.
These manse weans, too many totty pan loaf sandwiches with crusts cut off if you ask me.
Bendy is loopy. And that's another fine mess GB has got himself into. He should have sacked her when he had the chance, she's as much common sense as a pheasant trying to crossing the M74!
And she'll last about as long.
These manse weans, too many totty pan loaf sandwiches with crusts cut off if you ask me.
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 11:51pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]Old Tam[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Duns Scotus[/bold] wrote:
From the front-page story on which no comments are invited: [quote]Ms Alexander insisted she would not quit, claiming she had the support of the PM, Labour MSPs, many party members and the people of Scotland[/quote] She has my support to and I'm sure, the support of Michelle Moan.[/quote] Moan will always provide support to those diddies. It's her job.[/quote] Wendy and Broon, a couple of titts.
Old Tam wrote:
Duns Scotus wrote:
From the front-page story on which no comments are invited: Ms Alexander insisted she would not quit, claiming she had the support of the PM, Labour MSPs, many party members and the people of Scotland
She has my support to and I'm sure, the support of Michelle Moan.
Moan will always provide support to those diddies. It's her job.
Wendy and Broon, a couple of titts.
Posted by: Fifer, kilmarnock on 11:53pm Wed 7 May 08
oh dear. Ian Gray was absolutely awful on newsnight tonight. Never as a politician get put into a situation where you dont understand the brief. I would say he has done his political career no good and should need to get those undergarments to the launderette as soon as possible. Brown should have got rid of wendy Alexander earlier as he only kept her because of her brother.
Alex Salmonds interview was everything that Gray wasnt. As a politician its always great to answer the last question with an emphatic YES.
Labour are dead in the water now.
oh dear. Ian Gray was absolutely awful on newsnight tonight. Never as a politician get put into a situation where you dont understand the brief. I would say he has done his political career no good and should need to get those undergarments to the launderette as soon as possible. Brown should have got rid of wendy Alexander earlier as he only kept her because of her brother.
Alex Salmonds interview was everything that Gray wasnt. As a politician its always great to answer the last question with an emphatic YES.
Labour are dead in the water now.
Posted by: Colkitto, River Clyde on 11:54pm Wed 7 May 08
Watched Iain Grey get tore up for arse paper by Brewer.
Brewer eventually said this is getting ridiculous now, we would probably be better speaking in a different language because you are not making any sense speaking in English...ha ha
Watched Iain Grey get tore up for arse paper by Brewer.
Brewer eventually said this is getting ridiculous now, we would probably be better speaking in a different language because you are not making any sense speaking in English...ha ha
Posted by: megz, glasgow on Thu 8 May 08
i thought brewer set him up nicely over the members bill, got him to say that was one of her options then later slapped him down by saying it isn't possible hehe. Does anyone over at slab hq know anything about holyrood procedures (well apart from filling out expense forms!) The cards and casino comment was priceless too. Will wendy still be leader by the end of the week? God i hope so.
i thought brewer set him up nicely over the members bill, got him to say that was one of her options then later slapped him down by saying it isn't possible hehe. Does anyone over at slab hq know anything about holyrood procedures (well apart from filling out expense forms!) The cards and casino comment was priceless too. Will wendy still be leader by the end of the week? God i hope so.
Posted by: Vivas, Embra on 12:03am Thu 8 May 08
[quote][bold]Tearlach[/bold] wrote:
Looks like the the Daily Mail is starting to get worried
http://tinyurl.com/4
zgoyh
It's completely laughable (well it is the Mail), but something tells me it's just the start of a concerted disinformation campaign.[/quote] A few important omissions from The Mails otherwise excellent analysis. They forgot to mention that cannibalism will be rife due to starvation and that cadavers will be the currency of choise. And that the emergence of the unfettered Scottish puritanical streak will ensure that any sexual position other than the missionary will be met with a public flogging. Apart from that it's spot on.
More seriously Gordon Brown has been courting The Mail for some time now so expect more of the same. A long long time ago, an old and very conservative neighbour of mine spotted some anti-Thatcher letter that I got published. The result was an (obviously not very...) anonymous letter through my door, with a strident page from The Mail and scrawled at the top was "Grow up and read the facts". Hilarious !
Anyway, the circulation of The Mail up here must be worse than The Northbritishman and thats saying something.
Tearlach wrote:
Looks like the the Daily Mail is starting to get worried
http://tinyurl.com/4
zgoyh
It's completely laughable (well it is the Mail), but something tells me it's just the start of a concerted disinformation campaign.
A few important omissions from The Mails otherwise excellent analysis. They forgot to mention that cannibalism will be rife due to starvation and that cadavers will be the currency of choise. And that the emergence of the unfettered Scottish puritanical streak will ensure that any sexual position other than the missionary will be met with a public flogging. Apart from that it's spot on.
More seriously Gordon Brown has been courting The Mail for some time now so expect more of the same. A long long time ago, an old and very conservative neighbour of mine spotted some anti-Thatcher letter that I got published. The result was an (obviously not very...) anonymous letter through my door, with a strident page from The Mail and scrawled at the top was "Grow up and read the facts". Hilarious !
Anyway, the circulation of The Mail up here must be worse than The Northbritishman and thats saying something.
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 12:04am Thu 8 May 08
whats with the no commenting. for god sake herald seriously how can we make it any worse shes doing that by herself.............
........If anything someone might actually come up with a defence
INSANITY?
whats with the no commenting. for god sake herald seriously how can we make it any worse shes doing that by herself.............
........If anything someone might actually come up with a defence
INSANITY?
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 12:06am Thu 8 May 08
I DEMAND AN EXPLANATION FOR THE NO COMMENTING !!!!!!!
I DEMAND AN EXPLANATION FOR THE NO COMMENTING !!!!!!!
Posted by: Samoyed, Costa del Menie on 12:07am Thu 8 May 08
To be more incompetent, they would need extra training.
Alex Salmond has just awarded the Great Cross of St. Andrew, in its "red" version to Bendy, maroon to Broon. They are the best secret SNP members we ever had, he said.
He is looking forward hanging them around their necks at the very first opportunity.
Will Bendy pull a sicky tomorow?
Can't wait till noon.
To be more incompetent, they would need extra training.
Alex Salmond has just awarded the Great Cross of St. Andrew, in its "red" version to Bendy, maroon to Broon. They are the best secret SNP members we ever had, he said.
He is looking forward hanging them around their necks at the very first opportunity.
Will Bendy pull a sicky tomorow?
Can't wait till noon.
Posted by: Im no really here, but over there on 12:09am Thu 8 May 08
[quote][bold]Tearlach[/bold] wrote:
Looks like the the Daily Mail is starting to get worried http://tinyurl.com/4 zgoyh It's completely laughable (well it is the Mail), but something tells me it's just the start of a concerted disinformation campaign.[/quote] Good Lord, desperation indeed. And these people call themselves Scottish?
Tearlach, we have had a disinformation campaign running from Westminster several decades. The stupid wee Daily Mail article is so insulting (e.g. "Scottish High Commissioner"???? "Scottish Prime Minister Wendy Alexander's first term in office at Holyrood."???) that perhaps even Daily Mail readers may get angry at it.
Tearlach wrote:
Looks like the the Daily Mail is starting to get worried http://tinyurl.com/4 zgoyh It's completely laughable (well it is the Mail), but something tells me it's just the start of a concerted disinformation campaign.
Good Lord, desperation indeed. And these people call themselves Scottish?
Tearlach, we have had a disinformation campaign running from Westminster several decades. The stupid wee Daily Mail article is so insulting (e.g. "Scottish High Commissioner"???? "Scottish Prime Minister Wendy Alexander's first term in office at Holyrood."???) that perhaps even Daily Mail readers may get angry at it.
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 12:10am Thu 8 May 08
Im sick to death of the herald doing this with the comments.
herald this is the internet not china. next thing google will be blocking access to websites from scotland.
I know we joke about this a lot but its actually getting riciculous and proves that the media are controlled by london.
Im sick to death of the herald doing this with the comments.
herald this is the internet not china. next thing google will be blocking access to websites from scotland.
I know we joke about this a lot but its actually getting riciculous and proves that the media are controlled by london.
Posted by: preddo53, leeds on 12:14am Thu 8 May 08
Salmond may just call a referendum, he was obviously waiting till 2110 because he thought the tories would be in and the Scots would vote for independence. But now with the decimation of nu lab in England he may just think the situation now is better.
Salmond may just call a referendum, he was obviously waiting till 2110 because he thought the tories would be in and the Scots would vote for independence. But now with the decimation of nu lab in England he may just think the situation now is better.
Posted by: soloman, Stirling on 12:14am Thu 8 May 08
Judging by the quiver in Mr Grays voice, I can only assume that Brown had him dragged to a studio with a couple of hard men and ordered to answer the questions like a half wit to keep the press at bay from the top team.
Judging by the quiver in Mr Grays voice, I can only assume that Brown had him dragged to a studio with a couple of hard men and ordered to answer the questions like a half wit to keep the press at bay from the top team.
Posted by: Vivas, Embra on 12:14am Thu 8 May 08
No surprise here eh !
[italic]"There is no difference between Gordon or Wendy, they totally agree."[/italic]
– Lord George Foulkes
I'm going to have to buy a scrapbook and paste all this stuff in. I want my proverbial grandchildren to be able to read all this stuff in 2030 !
No surprise here eh !
"There is no difference between Gordon or Wendy, they totally agree."
– Lord George Foulkes
I'm going to have to buy a scrapbook and paste all this stuff in. I want my proverbial grandchildren to be able to read all this stuff in 2030 !
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 12:15am Thu 8 May 08
I think its time we started writing to the internatinal press to highlight whats going on here. If anyone can find a website of an international newspaper that allows comments please post the URL
I think its time we started writing to the internatinal press to highlight whats going on here. If anyone can find a website of an international newspaper that allows comments please post the URL
Posted by: soloman, Stirling on 12:21am Thu 8 May 08
Mr Cairns has now become a full time labour activist, posting comments on a daily basis on the Herald stories website.
So where is he now?
Well who wants to play pin the tail on the Mcchattterrinng Donkey?
Mr Cairns has now become a full time labour activist, posting comments on a daily basis on the Herald stories website.
So where is he now?
Well who wants to play pin the tail on the Mcchattterrinng Donkey?
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 12:23am Thu 8 May 08
Not allowed to post comments on Broon and Weandy again . Shouldnt the herald change its name to to'' Pravda'' .
Not allowed to post comments on Broon and Weandy again . Shouldnt the herald change its name to to'' Pravda'' .
Posted by: Ronald, Glasgow on 12:25am Thu 8 May 08
Interesting Newsnight (Hootsmanland Edition) . The sight of Gordon
Brewer, sweating profusely, glowering at big Eck (Soon to be King! )
and coming away with the most absurd statement I have heard
since I last read one of Herr Wullie, Aberdeen, Waffen SS
Untersturmfuhrer's postings. Brewer : " You cannot call for the
resignation of the leader of the opposition ! " Er... Gordon, - how to
put this delicately ; HE FECKIN WELL CAN !!! AND HE FECKIN
WELL DID !!!
And speaking of our dear friend Wullie ; forcrissakes will you please
get it into that thick lumpen skull ; THE NEW - LABOUR PARTY IS
MORE AKIN TO RIGHT WING FASCISTIC ORGINISATIONS
THAN ANY LEFTIST ENTITY 'S. GOTTIT ? GOOD !!!
When was the last time you saw any of those animals waving red
flags, or singing leftist songs. These middle class multi-millionaire
careerist 's wouldn't know a what a socialist even looks like if they
were bitten on the **** by one. And finally to drive home the point
cos I know in your case I need to. Do you think that supporters of
THE NEW LABOUR PROJECT such as D Fraser and A Young are
lefties, well do you? And creatures such as those are sadly all that
remains in the Party. The sad, mad and bad ! I thank you, and
goodnight !!!!
Interesting Newsnight (Hootsmanland Edition) . The sight of Gordon
Brewer, sweating profusely, glowering at big Eck (Soon to be King! )
and coming away with the most absurd statement I have heard
since I last read one of Herr Wullie, Aberdeen, Waffen SS
Untersturmfuhrer's postings. Brewer : " You cannot call for the
resignation of the leader of the opposition ! " Er... Gordon, - how to
put this delicately ; HE FECKIN WELL CAN !!! AND HE FECKIN
WELL DID !!!
And speaking of our dear friend Wullie ; forcrissakes will you please
get it into that thick lumpen skull ; THE NEW - LABOUR PARTY IS
MORE AKIN TO RIGHT WING FASCISTIC ORGINISATIONS
THAN ANY LEFTIST ENTITY 'S. GOTTIT ? GOOD !!!
When was the last time you saw any of those animals waving red
flags, or singing leftist songs. These middle class multi-millionaire
careerist 's wouldn't know a what a socialist even looks like if they
were bitten on the **** by one. And finally to drive home the point
cos I know in your case I need to. Do you think that supporters of
THE NEW LABOUR PROJECT such as D Fraser and A Young are
lefties, well do you? And creatures such as those are sadly all that
remains in the Party. The sad, mad and bad ! I thank you, and
goodnight !!!!
Posted by: Im no really here, but over there on 12:27am Thu 8 May 08
[quote][bold]Vivas[/bold] wrote:
No surprise here eh ! [italic]"There is no difference between Gordon or Wendy, they totally agree."[/italic] – Lord George Foulkes I'm going to have to buy a scrapbook and paste all this stuff in. I want my proverbial grandchildren to be able to read all this stuff in 2030 ! [/quote] The only problem may be that they will say "Granddad, what is a Labour Party, we don't have them any more, do we?"
Vivas wrote:
No surprise here eh ! "There is no difference between Gordon or Wendy, they totally agree." – Lord George Foulkes I'm going to have to buy a scrapbook and paste all this stuff in. I want my proverbial grandchildren to be able to read all this stuff in 2030 !
The only problem may be that they will say "Granddad, what is a Labour Party, we don't have them any more, do we?"
Posted by: Curley Bill, the southwest on 12:30am Thu 8 May 08
War is Peace! Up is Down! In is Out!
Wendy's 'weffawendum' = George Robertson's 'stone-dead.'
War is Peace! Up is Down! In is Out!
Wendy's 'weffawendum' = George Robertson's 'stone-dead.'
Posted by: Brian Blessed, Glasgow on 12:31am Thu 8 May 08
Iain Gray's comedy kamikaze Newsnight appearance now on iPlayer:
tinyurl.com/66g6c2
He definitely looks like Quagmire out of "Family Guy".
Iain Gray's comedy kamikaze Newsnight appearance now on iPlayer:
tinyurl.com/66g6c2
He definitely looks like Quagmire out of "Family Guy".
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 12:36am Thu 8 May 08
look if we want to stop this blatant propaganda we are going to have to do something about it people find internaitional newspaper sites and post and explanation of the scottish press and media.
look if we want to stop this blatant propaganda we are going to have to do something about it people find internaitional newspaper sites and post and explanation of the scottish press and media.
Posted by: Curley Bill, the southwest on 12:39am Thu 8 May 08
Yep, he's no poker player, either. What with his eye having the Glenny Blink and his squirming likes he's got bugs in his boxers, he'd lose a fortune at any casino.
Yep, he's no poker player, either. What with his eye having the Glenny Blink and his squirming likes he's got bugs in his boxers, he'd lose a fortune at any casino.
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 12:39am Thu 8 May 08
Brian Blessed.
STOP SHOUTING. You old ham.
Brian Blessed.
STOP SHOUTING. You old ham.
Posted by: Don McLean, Glasgow on 12:54am Thu 8 May 08
It strikes me as slightly scary, when the leader of the, now Opposition Party in Holyrood, can make policy on the hoof, without, as far as I can make out, any reference to the other labour MSP's, did this go through their Executive in Scotland, far less the UK labour Cabinet ?
Has democracy within the labour party gone the way of democracy in the country as a whole, top down instead of bottom up ?
Time for a complete change, in the way our elected Representatives represent us, at all levels, from local Government up ,
No wonder politics is such a turn off, when even our politicians' don't have a say in the way that their own Party's Politics are conducted.
It strikes me as slightly scary, when the leader of the, now Opposition Party in Holyrood, can make policy on the hoof, without, as far as I can make out, any reference to the other labour MSP's, did this go through their Executive in Scotland, far less the UK labour Cabinet ?
Has democracy within the labour party gone the way of democracy in the country as a whole, top down instead of bottom up ?
Time for a complete change, in the way our elected Representatives represent us, at all levels, from local Government up ,
No wonder politics is such a turn off, when even our politicians' don't have a say in the way that their own Party's Politics are conducted.
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 12:58am Thu 8 May 08
oh my god just watched iain grey on newsnight
what with the eye twitching i expected his head to start jerking to the side.
brewer made me laugh when he said youve handed alex salmond the all the cards the card table and the casino..............
.............
oh my god just watched iain grey on newsnight
what with the eye twitching i expected his head to start jerking to the side.
brewer made me laugh when he said youve handed alex salmond the all the cards the card table and the casino..............
.............
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 1:03am Thu 8 May 08
[quote][bold]Tearlach[/bold] wrote:
Looks like the the Daily Mail is starting to get worried
http://tinyurl.com/4
zgoyh
It's completely laughable (well it is the Mail), but something tells me it's just the start of a concerted disinformation campaign.[/quote]
This Daily Mail article comes from the workings of a seriously deranged madman...... Everyone knows Scotland subsidises England!
Tearlach wrote:
Looks like the the Daily Mail is starting to get worried
http://tinyurl.com/4
zgoyh
It's completely laughable (well it is the Mail), but something tells me it's just the start of a concerted disinformation campaign.
This Daily Mail article comes from the workings of a seriously deranged madman...... Everyone knows Scotland subsidises England!
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 1:04am Thu 8 May 08
[quote][bold]Vivas[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Tearlach[/bold] wrote:
Looks like the the Daily Mail is starting to get worried
http://tinyurl.com/4
zgoyh
It's completely laughable (well it is the Mail), but something tells me it's just the start of a concerted disinformation campaign.[/quote] A few important omissions from The Mails otherwise excellent analysis. They forgot to mention that cannibalism will be rife due to starvation and that cadavers will be the currency of choise. And that the emergence of the unfettered Scottish puritanical streak will ensure that any sexual position other than the missionary will be met with a public flogging. Apart from that it's spot on.
More seriously Gordon Brown has been courting The Mail for some time now so expect more of the same. A long long time ago, an old and very conservative neighbour of mine spotted some anti-Thatcher letter that I got published. The result was an (obviously not very...) anonymous letter through my door, with a strident page from The Mail and scrawled at the top was "Grow up and read the facts". Hilarious !
Anyway, the circulation of The Mail up here must be worse than The Northbritishman and thats saying something.
[/quote] LOL - Superb
Vivas wrote:
Tearlach wrote:
Looks like the the Daily Mail is starting to get worried
http://tinyurl.com/4
zgoyh
It's completely laughable (well it is the Mail), but something tells me it's just the start of a concerted disinformation campaign.
A few important omissions from The Mails otherwise excellent analysis. They forgot to mention that cannibalism will be rife due to starvation and that cadavers will be the currency of choise. And that the emergence of the unfettered Scottish puritanical streak will ensure that any sexual position other than the missionary will be met with a public flogging. Apart from that it's spot on.
More seriously Gordon Brown has been courting The Mail for some time now so expect more of the same. A long long time ago, an old and very conservative neighbour of mine spotted some anti-Thatcher letter that I got published. The result was an (obviously not very...) anonymous letter through my door, with a strident page from The Mail and scrawled at the top was "Grow up and read the facts". Hilarious !
Anyway, the circulation of The Mail up here must be worse than The Northbritishman and thats saying something.
LOL - Superb
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 1:05am Thu 8 May 08
[quote][bold]Brian Blessed[/bold] wrote:
Iain Gray's comedy kamikaze Newsnight appearance now on iPlayer:
tinyurl.com/66g6c2
He definitely looks like Quagmire out of "Family Guy".[/quote] [bold]Quagmire[/bold]
[bold]LOL
[/bold]
Oh dear oh dear, it's all too much - I'll bid you all a Guid Nicht!
Brian Blessed wrote:
Iain Gray's comedy kamikaze Newsnight appearance now on iPlayer:
tinyurl.com/66g6c2
He definitely looks like Quagmire out of "Family Guy".
Quagmire
LOL
Oh dear oh dear, it's all too much - I'll bid you all a Guid Nicht!
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 1:08am Thu 8 May 08
a very good night to you all
have to get up early for the betting shop opening. going to put a tenner or twenty quid on scotland bieng independent by 2012
a very good night to you all
have to get up early for the betting shop opening. going to put a tenner or twenty quid on scotland bieng independent by 2012
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