Firms urged to follow Scotland in ‘McJobs’ qualification move
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| EXPERIENCE: Apprentice plumber John Boyd, 16, shows Wend Alexander his work as she tours the training workshop |
The Scottish Government last night welcomed the so-called "McJobs" approach to qualifications now being adopted in England, pointing out that an in-house means of acquiring tailored skills and training had been the policy among Scotland's employers for years.
As part of the UK Government's drive to increase the employability of people, Gordon Brown yesterday set out a three-pronged approach to expanding the workforce: increasing the number of apprenticeships, introducing a skills test for the unemployed and allowing companies such as McDonald's, Flybe and Network Rail to introduce their own qualifications.
The Qualifications and Curriculum Authority, the exams watchdog in England, said all three firms had been given "awarding body status", equivalent to A-levels.
The Prime Minister denied what has been described as "A-levels in Big Mac management" as dumbing down qualifications. He said: "If McDonald's do it, it's not that the standard is going to fall. In fact, it's going to be a tough course but once you have got a qualification in management, you can probably go anywhere."
He added: "That is the important thing: companies prepared to train people up which they weren't doing before in the way that we want them to do in a far greater number, so that people have the qualifications for the future."
However, Mike Haggerty of the Scottish Qualifications Authority (SQA) told The Herald it was "business as usual" for Scotland in providing such in-house qualifications. He pointed out that the Scottish Credit and Qualifications Framework (SCQF), under which in-house qualifications are rated to an SQA level, had been operating for four years and provided a "robustness", bringing standards up to a national level, which employers and employees could have confidence in.
Mr Haggerty said such
in-house qualifications covered many areas of work, from the North Sea oil and gas companies to tourism and legal services.
Last night, a spokeswoman for the Scottish Government also stressed that the approach now being adopted in England had been up and running north of the border for some time. "We in Scotland have been taking this type of approach for a number of years and some employers have already taken advantage of the opportunity. As such, we would actively encourage McDonald's, Flybe, and Network Rail to make contact with the SCQF."
She explained how the framework was now embedded in Scottish education
and training and covered thousands of SQA and
Higher Education qualifications. It already allocated
credit for learning and
supported the transfer of
this credit to other learning
programmes.
Employers who have already placed their in-house training programmes under the framework standard include South Lanarkshire Council, the Scottish Prison Service College, the Scottish Fire Services College, the Chartered Management Institute, and the Chartered Institute of Bankers Scotland. Non-traditional learning awards on offer in schools and colleges have also been placed within the SCQF, including Youth Scotland's Youth Achievement Awards and the European Computer Driving Licence.
"The Scottish Government is working with the SQA, the SCQF Partnership, and the network of Sector Skills Councils in Scotland to ensure that the SCQF is responsive to employer needs," added the spokeswoman.
Earlier, in a speech to a business conference in London, Mr Brown signalled his determination to use businesses and volunteers alongside state agencies as part of a "carrot and stick" approach to tackling unemployment. To stop benefits becoming a way of life, would-be claimants would be forced to have a skills test and then either matched with a job or offered retraining.
He explained how there was now a global "skills race" and the number of unskilled jobs in the UK would plummet. Consequently, to prevent young people moving on to welfare, one in five under-21s should be undertaking an apprenticeship within a decade.
He also signalled a tougher regime of sanctions against the unemployed if they refused help to improve their skills.
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Posted by: Politically-incorrec
t Man, Glasgow on 12:18am Tue 29 Jan 08
I thought we were already ahead of the game on this by producing graduates with qualifications that suited them only to "flip burgers".
Q. What question is a B.A. graduate most likely to ask you ?
A. Do you want fries with that?
I thought we were already ahead of the game on this by producing graduates with qualifications that suited them only to "flip burgers".
Q. What question is a B.A. graduate most likely to ask you ?
A. Do you want fries with that?
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 1:08am Tue 29 Jan 08
Is this it?
is this Broon's Relaunch?
Education Education Education...erm...ED
UCATION!
More Hot Air....
Is this it?
is this Broon's Relaunch?
Education Education Education...erm...ED
UCATION!
More Hot Air....
Posted by: Supershug, Eaglesham on 1:09am Tue 29 Jan 08
"EXPERIENCE: Apprentice plumber John Boyd, 16, shows Wend Alexander his work as she tours the training workshop"
Does this paper employ students to run its website? The sloppiness over small details like spelling do little to add to the gravitas of political stories.
"EXPERIENCE: Apprentice plumber John Boyd, 16, shows Wend Alexander his work as she tours the training workshop"
Does this paper employ students to run its website? The sloppiness over small details like spelling do little to add to the gravitas of political stories.
Posted by: weegie, Glasgow on 2:01am Tue 29 Jan 08
Bsc(Hons) Hamburger flipping
will look good on a CV :)
Bsc(Hons) Hamburger flipping
will look good on a CV :)
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 2:13am Tue 29 Jan 08
See the latest, SEPA's acting Deputy head whoraised the late objection and contributed towards the strife at Aviemore after the application being in for 6 years reputedly gave £995 to Wendy Alexander's Campaign.......[bold]oh dear.....[/bold]
Scotsman
tinyurl.com/27qpnx
See the latest, SEPA's acting Deputy head whoraised the late objection and contributed towards the strife at Aviemore after the application being in for 6 years reputedly gave £995 to Wendy Alexander's Campaign.......
oh dear.....
Scotsman
tinyurl.com/27qpnx
Posted by: Celtic Lion, McRoar on 5:03am Tue 29 Jan 08
Wendy will be hoping for some McAbility, so long as it doesn't sound too Scottish for her London masters.
Wendy will be hoping for some McAbility, so long as it doesn't sound too Scottish for her London masters.
Posted by: Donald Anderson, glasgow on 5:56am Tue 29 Jan 08
There are also management and organisational skills inclyded, which are no better and no worse than some of the Standard Grade requirements or job creation experiences. At least it teaches kids work ethics which is a fast disappearing trait.
I wouldn't want some of the standard grade kids to wire ma hoose.
There are also management and organisational skills inclyded, which are no better and no worse than some of the Standard Grade requirements or job creation experiences. At least it teaches kids work ethics which is a fast disappearing trait.
I wouldn't want some of the standard grade kids to wire ma hoose.
Posted by: Donald Anderson, glasgow on 5:56am Tue 29 Jan 08
There are also management and organisational skills inclyded, which are no better and no worse than some of the Standard Grade requirements or job creation experiences. At least it teaches kids work ethics which is a fast disappearing trait.
I wouldn't want some of the standard grade kids to wire ma hoose.
There are also management and organisational skills inclyded, which are no better and no worse than some of the Standard Grade requirements or job creation experiences. At least it teaches kids work ethics which is a fast disappearing trait.
I wouldn't want some of the standard grade kids to wire ma hoose.
Posted by: Donald Anderson, glasgow on 5:57am Tue 29 Jan 08
There are also management and organisational skills inclyded, which are no better and no worse than some of the Standard Grade requirements or job creation experiences. At least it teaches kids work ethics which is a fast disappearing trait.
I wouldn't want some of the standard grade kids to wire ma hoose.
There are also management and organisational skills inclyded, which are no better and no worse than some of the Standard Grade requirements or job creation experiences. At least it teaches kids work ethics which is a fast disappearing trait.
I wouldn't want some of the standard grade kids to wire ma hoose.
Posted by: Jock in the Box, edinburgh on 6:37am Tue 29 Jan 08
Its difficult to see just exactly what this qualification means to be honest. Even if we accept that it covers hygiene stock accounting and is a managerial training for burger tossers,who decides who has passed McDonalds exam? Would it be Mc DONALDS by any chance?
This looks on the face of it like the biggest [bold]load of numpty nonsense[/bold] to come out of Labour yet ,and there have been quite a few contenders over the years"!
Maybe they could include a training programme for LABOUR candidates (sponsored by McDonalds of course).
They could teach them how to claim expenses and how to register donations.That would be major step forward for NEW LABOUR.
Maybe we could have a numpty burger sponsored by the Labour Party !
Its difficult to see just exactly what this qualification means to be honest. Even if we accept that it covers hygiene stock accounting and is a managerial training for burger tossers,who decides who has passed McDonalds exam? Would it be Mc DONALDS by any chance?
This looks on the face of it like the biggest
load of numpty nonsense to come out of Labour yet ,and there have been quite a few contenders over the years"!
Maybe they could include a training programme for LABOUR candidates (sponsored by McDonalds of course).
They could teach them how to claim expenses and how to register donations.That would be major step forward for NEW LABOUR.
Maybe we could have a numpty burger sponsored by the Labour Party !
Posted by: Jock in the Box, edinburgh on 7:03am Tue 29 Jan 08
[bold]Wardog, Buckie on 2:13am[/bold]
I am constantly confused by all this,IF Wendy was unopposed,why did they need campaign donations for a non existent campaign ,(unless she was imposed by Westmonster and the money spent convincing Labour acrivists that it was in their best interests to do what they are told by Westmonster )?
It looks on the face of it like New Labour were not even honest with the people who donate money to them!
There is an obvious answer to all this,DONT GIVE THEM MONEY until they can adequately explain how they manage to receive massive contributions from Trade Unions and businessmen every year and are still permanently skint!
They cannot balance their own books for God sake !
How the **** can they run the country?
Wardog, Buckie on 2:13am
I am constantly confused by all this,IF Wendy was unopposed,why did they need campaign donations for a non existent campaign ,(unless she was imposed by Westmonster and the money spent convincing Labour acrivists that it was in their best interests to do what they are told by Westmonster )?
It looks on the face of it like New Labour were not even honest with the people who donate money to them!
There is an obvious answer to all this,DONT GIVE THEM MONEY until they can adequately explain how they manage to receive massive contributions from Trade Unions and businessmen every year and are still permanently skint!
They cannot balance their own books for God sake !
How the **** can they run the country?
Posted by: Celtic Lion, Roar on 7:11am Tue 29 Jan 08
Jock, iirc she had a DVD produced to enhance her image and toured Scotland to tell people what she stands for. Trouble is, she still has a terrible image and nobody is sure what she stands for.
Jock, iirc she had a DVD produced to enhance her image and toured Scotland to tell people what she stands for. Trouble is, she still has a terrible image and nobody is sure what she stands for.
Posted by: Jock in the Box, edinburgh on 7:59am Tue 29 Jan 08
[bold]Celtic Lion, Roar on 7:11am[/bold]
Thank You for that .The DVD would cost money no doubt,but since she was unopposed, one wonders who was it aimed at, and why?
If it was the average Joe in the street (as opposed to the party activist,) then this is electioneering of course,which would suggest that Gordon was indeed wanting to go to the polls,but dare not because of the inevitable result which would have been a wipe out, and it will yet, an even bigger one!
If it was aimed at party activists,(which is far more likely)its a bit late to try and convince them after Gordon has already appointed you!
It looks very like it was to convince the Scottish members that [bold]Westmonster's choice was the right choice[/bold] , when it was not their choice at all,in which case the entire New Labour Party are spineless,and unfit for office.
Its academic of course what kind of New Labour quislings we have.All that matters is that we get rid of them permanently.
Then ,and only then will Labour get its act together,and who knows may figure in government in an independent Scotland at some future date. They need to learn that they are answerable to the Scottish people,not to Westminster, and that needs a major culture change.
I suspect they will never ever be returned to Westminster again,and the two party system in England will become the Tories v the Lib Dems. with New Labour being a peculiarity of the North East Geordie and no real presence outside the run down cities.
Scotland's future lies as an independent nation,of that there can be no doubt now, because [bold]LABOUR CANNOT POSSIBLY WIN AT WESTMINSTER[/bold]
The question is what are we going to do about it Scotland?
DECLARE INDEPENDENCE or play ostrich?
Celtic Lion, Roar on 7:11am
Thank You for that .The DVD would cost money no doubt,but since she was unopposed, one wonders who was it aimed at, and why?
If it was the average Joe in the street (as opposed to the party activist,) then this is electioneering of course,which would suggest that Gordon was indeed wanting to go to the polls,but dare not because of the inevitable result which would have been a wipe out, and it will yet, an even bigger one!
If it was aimed at party activists,(which is far more likely)its a bit late to try and convince them after Gordon has already appointed you!
It looks very like it was to convince the Scottish members that
Westmonster's choice was the right choice , when it was not their choice at all,in which case the entire New Labour Party are spineless,and unfit for office.
Its academic of course what kind of New Labour quislings we have.All that matters is that we get rid of them permanently.
Then ,and only then will Labour get its act together,and who knows may figure in government in an independent Scotland at some future date. They need to learn that they are answerable to the Scottish people,not to Westminster, and that needs a major culture change.
I suspect they will never ever be returned to Westminster again,and the two party system in England will become the Tories v the Lib Dems. with New Labour being a peculiarity of the North East Geordie and no real presence outside the run down cities.
Scotland's future lies as an independent nation,of that there can be no doubt now, because
LABOUR CANNOT POSSIBLY WIN AT WESTMINSTER
The question is what are we going to do about it Scotland?
DECLARE INDEPENDENCE or play ostrich?
Posted by: Celtic Lion, Roar on 8:18am Tue 29 Jan 08
[bold]Jock[/bold] I'm pretty sure the DVD was in-party and (probably) for journalists. No doubt the typical shots of Wendy walking through the meadows before cutting to a scene of her strolling up the Royal Mile while chatting and laughing merrily (and perhaps stopping for a piddle). Voice overs telling the listener (assuming he's not rushed to the loo for a reunion with last night's curry) how hard Wendy has worked and just how intelligent she thinks she is. Probably closing with pictures of a new dawn. You know what I mean - propaganda tripe (the only thing Labour seem to be good at these days).
This is all of the top of my head (and some in it), I'm sure the hootsmon mentioned what Wendy spent the money on when this all began.
There can't much doubt of cracks in New Labour, especially the Scottish gang. And I don't imagine there's much support for Wendy any more. Even Cathie has gone quiet (though my telly's on the blink so perhaps I've just missed her flapping her gums). They absolutely must regroup and get some direction because their future isn't looking too bright and their doners must be looking elsewhere. When Wendy was reaching for her crown there was suggestion a socialist (not many of them left in New Labour) may step forward for the contest. I imagine one will soon when (not if) Wendy stands down, then we might see some conflict between Labour in Westminster and Labour in Scotland.
Who knows? All speculation at the moment but they can't keep on the way they've been doing and Wendy's reinventions just seem to come out with the same garbage every time.
Jock I'm pretty sure the DVD was in-party and (probably) for journalists. No doubt the typical shots of Wendy walking through the meadows before cutting to a scene of her strolling up the Royal Mile while chatting and laughing merrily (and perhaps stopping for a piddle). Voice overs telling the listener (assuming he's not rushed to the loo for a reunion with last night's curry) how hard Wendy has worked and just how intelligent she thinks she is. Probably closing with pictures of a new dawn. You know what I mean - propaganda tripe (the only thing Labour seem to be good at these days).
This is all of the top of my head (and some in it), I'm sure the hootsmon mentioned what Wendy spent the money on when this all began.
There can't much doubt of cracks in New Labour, especially the Scottish gang. And I don't imagine there's much support for Wendy any more. Even Cathie has gone quiet (though my telly's on the blink so perhaps I've just missed her flapping her gums). They absolutely must regroup and get some direction because their future isn't looking too bright and their doners must be looking elsewhere. When Wendy was reaching for her crown there was suggestion a socialist (not many of them left in New Labour) may step forward for the contest. I imagine one will soon when (not if) Wendy stands down, then we might see some conflict between Labour in Westminster and Labour in Scotland.
Who knows? All speculation at the moment but they can't keep on the way they've been doing and Wendy's reinventions just seem to come out with the same garbage every time.
Posted by: ditchgazza on 9:02am Tue 29 Jan 08
Labour are looking for people experienced in flipping Big Whoppers.
Labour are looking for people experienced in flipping Big Whoppers.
Posted by: IainGlasgow07, glasgow on 9:13am Tue 29 Jan 08
"The Scottish Government last night welcomed the so-called "McJobs" approach"
Yes but why is there a photo of Wendy Alexander on this report then? Do she and some of those in the media cloud cuckoo world STILL think Labour are still in office and she's the First Minister?
"The Scottish Government last night welcomed the so-called "McJobs" approach"
Yes but why is there a photo of Wendy Alexander on this report then? Do she and some of those in the media cloud cuckoo world STILL think Labour are still in office and she's the First Minister?
Posted by: Celtic Lion, Roar on 9:22am Tue 29 Jan 08
[quote]Do she and some of those in the media cloud cuckoo world STILL think Labour are still in office and she's the First Minister?[/quote]
Yes
;)
Do she and some of those in the media cloud cuckoo world STILL think Labour are still in office and she's the First Minister?
Yes
;)
Posted by: ex labour voter, glasgow on 9:27am Tue 29 Jan 08
I think wee wendy is being stalked by a press photographer,
her mush is plastered all over this rag.
Where has her hard hat gone?
I think wee wendy is being stalked by a press photographer,
her mush is plastered all over this rag.
Where has her hard hat gone?
Posted by: dws on 9:44am Tue 29 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Celtic Lion[/bold] wrote:
[quote]Do she and some of those in the media cloud cuckoo world STILL think Labour are still in office and she's the First Minister?[/quote] Yes ;)[/quote] ...and it'll only change when Westminster Labour falls on it's erse at the next general election. I suppose then they'll think Annabel Goldie is First Minster.
Celtic Lion wrote:
Do she and some of those in the media cloud cuckoo world STILL think Labour are still in office and she's the First Minister?
Yes ;)
...and it'll only change when Westminster Labour falls on it's erse at the next general election. I suppose then they'll think Annabel Goldie is First Minster.
Posted by: ryeoman, fife on 9:46am Tue 29 Jan 08
I think there is a mdia conspiracy against Labour.
The bendy Wendy is an ugly site and they keep puttng her picture in the paper to make people boak
I think there is a mdia conspiracy against Labour.
The bendy Wendy is an ugly site and they keep puttng her picture in the paper to make people boak
Posted by: ex labour voter, glasgow on 9:56am Tue 29 Jan 08
[quote][bold]ryeoman[/bold] wrote:
I think there is a mdia conspiracy against Labour. The bendy Wendy is an ugly site and they keep puttng her picture in the paper to make people boak[/quote] LMAO.
ryeoman wrote:
I think there is a mdia conspiracy against Labour. The bendy Wendy is an ugly site and they keep puttng her picture in the paper to make people boak
LMAO.
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 10:01am Tue 29 Jan 08
i am confused as to why the herald is showing the leader of the opposition in scotland touring places. I dont remember this happening when the snp where the opposition before they won the election in 2007. Can anyone point me in the direction of a story from before the may 2007 election showing alex salmond touring places. If they can i will agree that the papers arent completely biased towards labour.
i am confused as to why the herald is showing the leader of the opposition in scotland touring places. I dont remember this happening when the snp where the opposition before they won the election in 2007. Can anyone point me in the direction of a story from before the may 2007 election showing alex salmond touring places. If they can i will agree that the papers arent completely biased towards labour.
Posted by: Curley Bill, the southwest on 10:18am Tue 29 Jan 08
[bold]Herald subeditor apologises[/bold] :
Sorry, valued readers, the headline that goes with that picture is
[bold]Wendy Alexander meets a vulnerable 2yr old plumber to say, 'Can you make me a portable toilet that will fit in my handbag?'[/bold]
Herald subeditor apologises :
Sorry, valued readers, the headline that goes with that picture is
Wendy Alexander meets a vulnerable 2yr old plumber to say, 'Can you make me a portable toilet that will fit in my handbag?' Posted by: Celtic Lion, Roar Think on 10:22am Tue 29 Jan 08
[bold]dws[/bold] , New Labour Think tells us there is no such thing as losing, only winning with the fewer votes. New Labour Think tells us New Labour acts with the people's authority, even when the people do not give New Labour authority.
Remember, Wendy is wonderful.
dws , New Labour Think tells us there is no such thing as losing, only winning with the fewer votes. New Labour Think tells us New Labour acts with the people's authority, even when the people do not give New Labour authority.
Remember, Wendy is wonderful.
Posted by: Truthseeker, Lanarkshire on 10:43am Tue 29 Jan 08
I think that Wendy is merely seeking some advice, from a superior intellect, so that she will be able to fit in more quickly to the workshop at Corntonvale (assuming that the Electoral Commission, and Strathclyde's finest do their jobs properly!!)
By the way, since I seem unable to post on another article, if I were to knock down a police officer, restrain him with plastic ties (my Wild West Sheriff handcuffs were lost a long time ago!) and sprayed him with squirrel repellent (the nearest I could get to his CS gas), would I get off with community service?? Somehow, I doubt it - and I don't have any criminal record either! Mind you, what a certain PC did was probably unintentional, and was really the fault of other members of his relief!! So that's alright, then!!
I think that Wendy is merely seeking some advice, from a superior intellect, so that she will be able to fit in more quickly to the workshop at Corntonvale (assuming that the Electoral Commission, and Strathclyde's finest do their jobs properly!!)
By the way, since I seem unable to post on another article, if I were to knock down a police officer, restrain him with plastic ties (my Wild West Sheriff handcuffs were lost a long time ago!) and sprayed him with squirrel repellent (the nearest I could get to his CS gas), would I get off with community service?? Somehow, I doubt it - and I don't have any criminal record either! Mind you, what a certain PC did was probably unintentional, and was really the fault of other members of his relief!! So that's alright, then!!
Posted by: dws on 10:49am Tue 29 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Celtic Lion[/bold] wrote:
[bold]dws[/bold] , New Labour Think tells us there is no such thing as losing, only winning with the fewer votes. New Labour Think tells us New Labour acts with the people's authority, even when the people do not give New Labour authority. Remember, Wendy is wonderful.[/quote] No doubt she is, to her family. She should really spend more time with them. She should also give more time to her Lecturing career.
Now, how could she achieve all this, as well as being applauded by a majority of the inhabitants in Scotland?
Go on Wendy. You know you want to. Let someone else take the flak.
Good luck in your new career.
Celtic Lion wrote:
dws , New Labour Think tells us there is no such thing as losing, only winning with the fewer votes. New Labour Think tells us New Labour acts with the people's authority, even when the people do not give New Labour authority. Remember, Wendy is wonderful.
No doubt she is, to her family. She should really spend more time with them. She should also give more time to her Lecturing career.
Now, how could she achieve all this, as well as being applauded by a majority of the inhabitants in Scotland?
Go on Wendy. You know you want to. Let someone else take the flak.
Good luck in your new career.
Posted by: Celtic Lion, Roar on 10:55am Tue 29 Jan 08
I propose Wendy for European President. She'd be great.
[italic]Remember, Labour knows how to spend your money better than you do.[/italic]
I propose Wendy for European President. She'd be great.
Remember, Labour knows how to spend your money better than you do. Posted by: jennieG, Lenzie on 11:06am Tue 29 Jan 08
Wonderful to see Wendy calling for more apprenticeships. Obviously she needs one desperately as this is one law-maker who does not understand or refuses to take seriously the laws relating to her job. It is no excuse in law that you broke it unintentionally. Perhaps apprenticeships and qualifications in elementary ethics would begin to raise the standard of such MSP's as Wendy Alexander so that voters could begin to trust them again. Perhaps it is just TIME WENDY WENT .
Wonderful to see Wendy calling for more apprenticeships. Obviously she needs one desperately as this is one law-maker who does not understand or refuses to take seriously the laws relating to her job. It is no excuse in law that you broke it unintentionally. Perhaps apprenticeships and qualifications in elementary ethics would begin to raise the standard of such MSP's as Wendy Alexander so that voters could begin to trust them again. Perhaps it is just TIME WENDY WENT .
Posted by: Exiled Aussie, Banff on 11:27am Tue 29 Jan 08
This will certainly cause the Nuts to knash away - following a "Unionist" example whatever next ?
No gonna buy Big Macs any more perhaps ?
This will certainly cause the Nuts to knash away - following a "Unionist" example whatever next ?
No gonna buy Big Macs any more perhaps ?
Posted by: Exiled Aussie, Banff on 11:30am Tue 29 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Jock in the Box[/bold] wrote:
[bold]Wardog, Buckie on 2:13am[/bold] I am constantly confused by all this,IF Wendy was unopposed,why did they need campaign donations for a non existent campaign ,(unless she was imposed by Westmonster and the money spent convincing Labour acrivists that it was in their best interests to do what they are told by Westmonster )? It looks on the face of it like New Labour were not even honest with the people who donate money to them! There is an obvious answer to all this,DONT GIVE THEM MONEY until they can adequately explain how they manage to receive massive contributions from Trade Unions and businessmen every year and are still permanently skint! They cannot balance their own books for God sake ! How the **** can they run the country?[/quote] What the dickens has this to do with the thread of story ?
Why not add on Diminutive's blunders (at best ?) over Trump and the other planning decisions with which he continues to interfere ?
Jock in the Box wrote:
Wardog, Buckie on 2:13am I am constantly confused by all this,IF Wendy was unopposed,why did they need campaign donations for a non existent campaign ,(unless she was imposed by Westmonster and the money spent convincing Labour acrivists that it was in their best interests to do what they are told by Westmonster )? It looks on the face of it like New Labour were not even honest with the people who donate money to them! There is an obvious answer to all this,DONT GIVE THEM MONEY until they can adequately explain how they manage to receive massive contributions from Trade Unions and businessmen every year and are still permanently skint! They cannot balance their own books for God sake ! How the **** can they run the country?
What the dickens has this to do with the thread of story ?
Why not add on Diminutive's blunders (at best ?) over Trump and the other planning decisions with which he continues to interfere ?
Posted by: Seumas, Irvine on 11:52am Tue 29 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Karin[/bold] wrote:
i am confused as to why the herald is showing the leader of the opposition in scotland touring places. I dont remember this happening when the snp where the opposition before they won the election in 2007. Can anyone point me in the direction of a story from before the may 2007 election showing alex salmond touring places. If they can i will agree that the papers arent completely biased towards labour. [/quote] The problem Karin is they do think they are still in control like some Eastern European dictator who refuses to accept the outcome of the election.Remember Jack McConnell refusing to concede defeat and sitting in his bunker for days unavailable for comment.All this constitutional circus commission is a smokescreen for the establishment to undermine an elected administration.They know Scots are unlikely to take to the streets if they create a parallel tier of government linked to Westminster.On the topic I remember Jimmy Reid years ago arguing the case that education was there to enrich and enhance our lives and not just a vehicle to create automatons trained to fit into the cogs of commerce and industry .
Karin wrote:
i am confused as to why the herald is showing the leader of the opposition in scotland touring places. I dont remember this happening when the snp where the opposition before they won the election in 2007. Can anyone point me in the direction of a story from before the may 2007 election showing alex salmond touring places. If they can i will agree that the papers arent completely biased towards labour.
The problem Karin is they do think they are still in control like some Eastern European dictator who refuses to accept the outcome of the election.Remember Jack McConnell refusing to concede defeat and sitting in his bunker for days unavailable for comment.All this constitutional circus commission is a smokescreen for the establishment to undermine an elected administration.They know Scots are unlikely to take to the streets if they create a parallel tier of government linked to Westminster.On the topic I remember Jimmy Reid years ago arguing the case that education was there to enrich and enhance our lives and not just a vehicle to create automatons trained to fit into the cogs of commerce and industry .
Posted by: BM, Glasgow on 12:06pm Tue 29 Jan 08
So what kind of employment will a first class honours degree in burger flipping get you? Just a job a s a minimum wage burger flipper!
So what kind of employment will a first class honours degree in burger flipping get you? Just a job a s a minimum wage burger flipper!
Posted by: ex labour voter, glasgow on 12:08pm Tue 29 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Seumas[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Karin[/bold] wrote: i am confused as to why the herald is showing the leader of the opposition in scotland touring places. I dont remember this happening when the snp where the opposition before they won the election in 2007. Can anyone point me in the direction of a story from before the may 2007 election showing alex salmond touring places. If they can i will agree that the papers arent completely biased towards labour. [/quote] The problem Karin is they do think they are still in control like some Eastern European dictator who refuses to accept the outcome of the election.Remember Jack McConnell refusing to concede defeat and sitting in his bunker for days unavailable for comment.All this constitutional circus commission is a smokescreen for the establishment to undermine an elected administration.They know Scots are unlikely to take to the streets if they create a parallel tier of government linked to Westminster.On the topic I remember Jimmy Reid years ago arguing the case that education was there to enrich and enhance our lives and not just a vehicle to create automatons trained to fit into the cogs of commerce and industry .[/quote] Spot on pal.
Liebour have serious problems when they continue to ignore the fact that the Scottish people were sick to the back teeth of their gross incompetence , lies and down arrogant ignorant attitude.
Having said that, I think wendy is doing a great job for the SNP.LOL.
Seumas wrote:
Karin wrote: i am confused as to why the herald is showing the leader of the opposition in scotland touring places. I dont remember this happening when the snp where the opposition before they won the election in 2007. Can anyone point me in the direction of a story from before the may 2007 election showing alex salmond touring places. If they can i will agree that the papers arent completely biased towards labour.
The problem Karin is they do think they are still in control like some Eastern European dictator who refuses to accept the outcome of the election.Remember Jack McConnell refusing to concede defeat and sitting in his bunker for days unavailable for comment.All this constitutional circus commission is a smokescreen for the establishment to undermine an elected administration.They know Scots are unlikely to take to the streets if they create a parallel tier of government linked to Westminster.On the topic I remember Jimmy Reid years ago arguing the case that education was there to enrich and enhance our lives and not just a vehicle to create automatons trained to fit into the cogs of commerce and industry .
Spot on pal.
Liebour have serious problems when they continue to ignore the fact that the Scottish people were sick to the back teeth of their gross incompetence , lies and down arrogant ignorant attitude.
Having said that, I think wendy is doing a great job for the SNP.LOL.
Posted by: BM, Glasgow on 12:10pm Tue 29 Jan 08
So what kind of employment will a first class honours degree in burger flipping get you? Just a job a s a minimum wage burger flipper!
So what kind of employment will a first class honours degree in burger flipping get you? Just a job a s a minimum wage burger flipper!
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 12:11pm Tue 29 Jan 08
[bold]Low Skilled British Jobs for Untrained British Workers[/bold]
This has been labour's mantra over the last [bold]10 years[/bold] , are they seriously saying that they've only now woken up and that this is the best they can do, rehash their previous 'new apprenticeship' schemes and avoid the problem that Idndia & China are going to overtake us in the skills race in relation to IT, Finance & other skilled work sectors...... broon's offering the Jobs that Britain's have consistently refused to take up for over a decade, it's no fluke that you can't get hold of a plumber/sparky these days....
Broon preside over this state of affirad to achieve his low inflation, low skills, low pay economy and now see's that he's having to make up lost ground... the minimum wage has become a joke, a piece of posturing to the left in his party that now only serves to keep the poor even poorer in society.....
Apart from the fluff regarding Big Mac A Levels and the superficial camera opportunity for Wendy and Broon to 'relaunch' themselves from the wreckage that has been the last 6 months for them both......
The only key thing said in this artical is the last comment that Broon also signaled a tougher regime of sanctions against the unemployed if they refused help to improve their skills.
That's the real story, Broon is finally getting tough on the long term unemployed after a decade of handouts and once proud working class citys such as Glasgow & Liverpool sustaining 26% of their working population on benefits.......
[bold]Too Little , Too Late[/bold] - Your Time is Up!
Low Skilled British Jobs for Untrained British Workers
This has been labour's mantra over the last
10 years , are they seriously saying that they've only now woken up and that this is the best they can do, rehash their previous 'new apprenticeship' schemes and avoid the problem that Idndia & China are going to overtake us in the skills race in relation to IT, Finance & other skilled work sectors...... broon's offering the Jobs that Britain's have consistently refused to take up for over a decade, it's no fluke that you can't get hold of a plumber/sparky these days....
Broon preside over this state of affirad to achieve his low inflation, low skills, low pay economy and now see's that he's having to make up lost ground... the minimum wage has become a joke, a piece of posturing to the left in his party that now only serves to keep the poor even poorer in society.....
Apart from the fluff regarding Big Mac A Levels and the superficial camera opportunity for Wendy and Broon to 'relaunch' themselves from the wreckage that has been the last 6 months for them both......
The only key thing said in this artical is the last comment that Broon also signaled a tougher regime of sanctions against the unemployed if they refused help to improve their skills.
That's the real story, Broon is finally getting tough on the long term unemployed after a decade of handouts and once proud working class citys such as Glasgow & Liverpool sustaining 26% of their working population on benefits.......
Too Little , Too Late - Your Time is Up!
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 12:16pm Tue 29 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Exiled Aussie[/bold] wrote:
This will certainly cause the Nuts to knash away - following a "Unionist" example whatever next ?
No gonna buy Big Macs any more perhaps ?[/quote] Hullo Banffer, how is the fishing Industry doing in Banff these days?
I think you've misread the article a wee bit, the story is about Labour in the UK taking up a Labour/Lib Dem Scottish policy...... there is nothing of the 'union' in this story other than that the two countries have until now followed different routes.... Broon apparently now wants the rest oif the UK to follow Scotland's lead.....
Exiled Aussie wrote:
This will certainly cause the Nuts to knash away - following a "Unionist" example whatever next ?
No gonna buy Big Macs any more perhaps ?
Hullo Banffer, how is the fishing Industry doing in Banff these days?
I think you've misread the article a wee bit, the story is about Labour in the UK taking up a Labour/Lib Dem Scottish policy...... there is nothing of the 'union' in this story other than that the two countries have until now followed different routes.... Broon apparently now wants the rest oif the UK to follow Scotland's lead.....
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 12:27pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Exiled Aussie, Banff on 11:30am today
The reality Banffer, is that if you cared to look around your adopted town, highly skilled jobs & apprenticeship opportunities have been diminished over the last 10 years due to Labour's incompetent pursuit of a Low Skills, Low Pay, Low Information economy....
Traditional Industries have been decimated, banff's fishing fleet is a shadow of what it once was, local fish processing factories now employ almost exclusively eastern european workers to avoid paying acceptable rates to the local workforce.....
The one area where some progress is being made and apprenticeships seem to be growing is in traditional boat building..... but this hasn't been any consequence of Labour's apprenticeship scheme......
The North East must thank the North Sea Oil Industry for keeping it breathing these days, that's the main skilled new work coming through..... and the coastal communities total dependence on this single industry has been a consequence of Labour's unwillingness to speak up in the EU regarding our traditional industries....
Exiled Aussie, Banff on 11:30am today
The reality Banffer, is that if you cared to look around your adopted town, highly skilled jobs & apprenticeship opportunities have been diminished over the last 10 years due to Labour's incompetent pursuit of a Low Skills, Low Pay, Low Information economy....
Traditional Industries have been decimated, banff's fishing fleet is a shadow of what it once was, local fish processing factories now employ almost exclusively eastern european workers to avoid paying acceptable rates to the local workforce.....
The one area where some progress is being made and apprenticeships seem to be growing is in traditional boat building..... but this hasn't been any consequence of Labour's apprenticeship scheme......
The North East must thank the North Sea Oil Industry for keeping it breathing these days, that's the main skilled new work coming through..... and the coastal communities total dependence on this single industry has been a consequence of Labour's unwillingness to speak up in the EU regarding our traditional industries....
Posted by: Stuart Allan, Dundee on 12:33pm Tue 29 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Exiled Aussie[/bold] wrote;
[italic]This will certainly cause the Nuts to knash away - following a "Unionist" example whatever next ?[/italic][/quote]
[bold]Nuts[/bold]???? Is this the latest Unionist pejorative to insult pro-Independence supporters that will be denied later when the ubiquitous claim of "[italic]Gnats[/italic]" are the only ones that employ such tactics surfaces?
Having said that, a good idea is a good idea, whether it comes from Unionist or Indie. It's just so rare to find anything of any worth in the current crop of Unionist politicians.
Exiled Aussie wrote;
This will certainly cause the Nuts to knash away - following a "Unionist" example whatever next ?
Nuts???? Is this the latest Unionist pejorative to insult pro-Independence supporters that will be denied later when the ubiquitous claim of "
Gnats" are the only ones that employ such tactics surfaces?
Having said that, a good idea is a good idea, whether it comes from Unionist or Indie. It's just so rare to find anything of any worth in the current crop of Unionist politicians.
Posted by: stonehaven on 1:54pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Why the picture of Wendy Alexander? She hardly deserves the space given that she is an opposition leader who has a cloud of criminality hanging over her head. Why not a picture of someone who really cares about Scotland?
Why the picture of Wendy Alexander? She hardly deserves the space given that she is an opposition leader who has a cloud of criminality hanging over her head. Why not a picture of someone who really cares about Scotland?
Posted by: Truthseeker, Lanarkshire on 2:02pm Tue 29 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Exiled Aussie[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Jock in the Box[/bold] wrote: [bold]Wardog, Buckie on 2:13am[/bold] I am constantly confused by all this,IF Wendy was unopposed,why did they need campaign donations for a non existent campaign ,(unless she was imposed by Westmonster and the money spent convincing Labour acrivists that it was in their best interests to do what they are told by Westmonster )? It looks on the face of it like New Labour were not even honest with the people who donate money to them! There is an obvious answer to all this,DONT GIVE THEM MONEY until they can adequately explain how they manage to receive massive contributions from Trade Unions and businessmen every year and are still permanently skint! They cannot balance their own books for God sake ! How the **** can they run the country?[/quote] What the dickens has this to do with the thread of story ? Why not add on Diminutive's blunders (at best ?) over Trump and the other planning decisions with which he continues to interfere ? [/quote] Perhaps simply the fact that The Herald decided (for whatever reason) to "grace" the article with a picture of the (discredited by her own mouth - i.e. her public admission of guilt) leader of the opposition in a story that, as far as I can make out, has nothing at all to do with her, but rather with her [italic]ubermeisters[/italic] in London.
I am not a supporter of the SNP (although I am happy to admit that they seem to be doing a fairly good job so far, in spite of the attempts of the opposition to use anything that they can think of to discredit, and block, them. My understanding is that even a parliamentary comittee has been unable to discover any grounds for genuine criticism of the actions of the First Minister - a totally different scenario from Ms Alexander standing in front of a TV camera and confessing her guilt to the viewing public (and that's without the lorry-load of evidence against her!).
Exiled Aussie wrote:
Jock in the Box wrote: Wardog, Buckie on 2:13am I am constantly confused by all this,IF Wendy was unopposed,why did they need campaign donations for a non existent campaign ,(unless she was imposed by Westmonster and the money spent convincing Labour acrivists that it was in their best interests to do what they are told by Westmonster )? It looks on the face of it like New Labour were not even honest with the people who donate money to them! There is an obvious answer to all this,DONT GIVE THEM MONEY until they can adequately explain how they manage to receive massive contributions from Trade Unions and businessmen every year and are still permanently skint! They cannot balance their own books for God sake ! How the **** can they run the country?
What the dickens has this to do with the thread of story ? Why not add on Diminutive's blunders (at best ?) over Trump and the other planning decisions with which he continues to interfere ?
Perhaps simply the fact that The Herald decided (for whatever reason) to "grace" the article with a picture of the (discredited by her own mouth - i.e. her public admission of guilt) leader of the opposition in a story that, as far as I can make out, has nothing at all to do with her, but rather with her
ubermeisters in London.
I am not a supporter of the SNP (although I am happy to admit that they seem to be doing a fairly good job so far, in spite of the attempts of the opposition to use anything that they can think of to discredit, and block, them. My understanding is that even a parliamentary comittee has been unable to discover any grounds for genuine criticism of the actions of the First Minister - a totally different scenario from Ms Alexander standing in front of a TV camera and confessing her guilt to the viewing public (and that's without the lorry-load of evidence against her!).
Posted by: Celtic Lion, Roar on 2:15pm Tue 29 Jan 08
When asked about McJobs for the McPeople, Wendy said "Do what you want, Labour has been feeding Whoppers to the public for years now!"
[italic]Ow, I'm on fire today![/italic]
When asked about McJobs for the McPeople, Wendy said "Do what you want, Labour has been feeding Whoppers to the public for years now!"
Ow, I'm on fire today! Posted by: Eckwatch, UK on 2:25pm Tue 29 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Exiled Aussie[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Jock in the Box[/bold] wrote:
[bold]Wardog, Buckie on 2:13am[/bold] I am constantly confused by all this,IF Wendy was unopposed,why did they need campaign donations for a non existent campaign ,(unless she was imposed by Westmonster and the money spent convincing Labour acrivists that it was in their best interests to do what they are told by Westmonster )? It looks on the face of it like New Labour were not even honest with the people who donate money to them! There is an obvious answer to all this,DONT GIVE THEM MONEY until they can adequately explain how they manage to receive massive contributions from Trade Unions and businessmen every year and are still permanently skint! They cannot balance their own books for God sake ! How the **** can they run the country?[/quote] What the dickens has this to do with the thread of story ?
Why not add on Diminutive's blunders (at best ?) over Trump and the other planning decisions with which he continues to interfere ? [/quote] To answer your query. Nothing at all to do with the thread. Just the usual nat trolling over everything. They see a thread in which the Lab-Lib coalitions' good work is grudgingly praised by the SNP and it really annoys them so they have to try and put in some irrelevant manufactured "grievance"
They wouldn't be happy if they couldn't have a good old moan. You'll soon get used to them
Exiled Aussie wrote:
Jock in the Box wrote:
Wardog, Buckie on 2:13am I am constantly confused by all this,IF Wendy was unopposed,why did they need campaign donations for a non existent campaign ,(unless she was imposed by Westmonster and the money spent convincing Labour acrivists that it was in their best interests to do what they are told by Westmonster )? It looks on the face of it like New Labour were not even honest with the people who donate money to them! There is an obvious answer to all this,DONT GIVE THEM MONEY until they can adequately explain how they manage to receive massive contributions from Trade Unions and businessmen every year and are still permanently skint! They cannot balance their own books for God sake ! How the **** can they run the country?
What the dickens has this to do with the thread of story ?
Why not add on Diminutive's blunders (at best ?) over Trump and the other planning decisions with which he continues to interfere ?
To answer your query. Nothing at all to do with the thread. Just the usual nat trolling over everything. They see a thread in which the Lab-Lib coalitions' good work is grudgingly praised by the SNP and it really annoys them so they have to try and put in some irrelevant manufactured "grievance"
They wouldn't be happy if they couldn't have a good old moan. You'll soon get used to them
Posted by: Eckwatch, UK on 2:26pm Tue 29 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Celtic Lion[/bold] wrote:
When asked about McJobs for the McPeople, Wendy said "Do what you want, Labour has been feeding Whoppers to the public for years now!"
[italic]Ow, I'm on fire today![/italic] [/quote] On fire? Just your pants, celtic liar
Celtic Lion wrote:
When asked about McJobs for the McPeople, Wendy said "Do what you want, Labour has been feeding Whoppers to the public for years now!"
Ow, I'm on fire today!
On fire? Just your pants, celtic liar
Posted by: Celtic Lion, Roar on 2:31pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Oh come one, didn't even raise a smile? Just a little one maybe?
Maybe I'm not funny,but for man with depression I'm hilarious (I just don't let it get me down).
Oh come one, didn't even raise a smile? Just a little one maybe?
Maybe I'm not funny,but for man with depression I'm hilarious (I just don't let it get me down).
Posted by: George Laird, Glasgow on 4:49pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Dear All
I think that most posters have missed the point of this story, Wendy Alexander seeks help from a plumber?
Could it be to pull her out of the ****!
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Dear All
I think that most posters have missed the point of this story, Wendy Alexander seeks help from a plumber?
Could it be to pull her out of the ****!
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Posted by: dws on 4:51pm Tue 29 Jan 08
[quote]To answer your query. Nothing at all to do with the thread. Just the usual nat trolling over everything. They see a thread in which the Lab-Lib coalitions' good work is grudgingly praised by the SNP and it really annoys them so they have to try and put in some irrelevant manufactured "grievance"
They wouldn't be happy if they couldn't have a good old moan. You'll soon get used to them[/quote]
Eckwatch me old fruitbat: I notice the thread isn't exactly bulging with your incisive comment on the article (or is it under another name?) ergo your only comment is the above, and that's not related to the article either. Hoist by your own petard, methinks.
I'm happy without moaning - look at your own previous posts before you roast that particular chestnut.
To Celtic Lion: I wouldn't let Eckwatch worry you, his sense of humour disappeared around May 3rd 2007, and shows no sign of returning. His bitterness just won't let it back in.
To answer your query. Nothing at all to do with the thread. Just the usual nat trolling over everything. They see a thread in which the Lab-Lib coalitions' good work is grudgingly praised by the SNP and it really annoys them so they have to try and put in some irrelevant manufactured "grievance"
They wouldn't be happy if they couldn't have a good old moan. You'll soon get used to them
Eckwatch me old fruitbat: I notice the thread isn't exactly bulging with your incisive comment on the article (or is it under another name?) ergo your only comment is the above, and that's not related to the article either. Hoist by your own petard, methinks.
I'm happy without moaning - look at your own previous posts before you roast that particular chestnut.
To Celtic Lion: I wouldn't let Eckwatch worry you, his sense of humour disappeared around May 3rd 2007, and shows no sign of returning. His bitterness just won't let it back in.
Posted by: Celtic Lion, Roar on 5:11pm Tue 29 Jan 08
dws I don't worry,usually I wouldn't bother replying but the humanity in me knows that,even though he wouldn't admit it here, he's bound to have cracked a smile. The way these forums read one would be forgiven for thinking there are nationalist-uniost wars happening on our very streets. Some people do, however, seem to acquire personalities as if they're in a wrestling match but that's just forum life.
I mean, come on, it was one of the funniest jokes anyone on this forum has heard since Eddie Murphy was on our tv sets!
dws I don't worry,usually I wouldn't bother replying but the humanity in me knows that,even though he wouldn't admit it here, he's bound to have cracked a smile. The way these forums read one would be forgiven for thinking there are nationalist-uniost wars happening on our very streets. Some people do, however, seem to acquire personalities as if they're in a wrestling match but that's just forum life.
I mean, come on, it was one of the funniest jokes anyone on this forum has heard since Eddie Murphy was on our tv sets!
Posted by: Dave, Away on 5:58pm Tue 29 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Celtic Lion[/bold] wrote:
dws I don't worry,usually I wouldn't bother replying but the humanity in me knows that,even though he wouldn't admit it here, he's bound to have cracked a smile. The way these forums read one would be forgiven for thinking there are nationalist-uniost wars happening on our very streets. Some people do, however, seem to acquire personalities as if they're in a wrestling match but that's just forum life. I mean, come on, it was one of the funniest jokes anyone on this forum has heard since Eddie Murphy was on our tv sets![/quote] A sense of humour is certainly appreciated by some of us! While you all know that I am a staunch Wendyite (though not Labourite) and have leapt to her defense again and again in the face of overwhelming odds sometimes the humour is just to clever not to grin at (even if disagreeing with the fundamental content of it's message).
Thanks to the Herald for allowing these message boards, as I personally have managed to glean much interesting information from some of the comments!
For humour, Celtic & Co., on your side I still can't beat
www/youtube/com/watc
h?v=Eh1z6JqMPLc
It is just too clever.....
PS - Apprenticeships well managed are a good idea, and so is on the job training as most of us could never afford to stop working and go back to school. I hope that such programs receive unilateral support at Holyrood.
Celtic Lion wrote:
dws I don't worry,usually I wouldn't bother replying but the humanity in me knows that,even though he wouldn't admit it here, he's bound to have cracked a smile. The way these forums read one would be forgiven for thinking there are nationalist-uniost wars happening on our very streets. Some people do, however, seem to acquire personalities as if they're in a wrestling match but that's just forum life. I mean, come on, it was one of the funniest jokes anyone on this forum has heard since Eddie Murphy was on our tv sets!
A sense of humour is certainly appreciated by some of us! While you all know that I am a staunch Wendyite (though not Labourite) and have leapt to her defense again and again in the face of overwhelming odds sometimes the humour is just to clever not to grin at (even if disagreeing with the fundamental content of it's message).
Thanks to the Herald for allowing these message boards, as I personally have managed to glean much interesting information from some of the comments!
For humour, Celtic & Co., on your side I still can't beat
www/youtube/com/watc
h?v=Eh1z6JqMPLc
It is just too clever.....
PS - Apprenticeships well managed are a good idea, and so is on the job training as most of us could never afford to stop working and go back to school. I hope that such programs receive unilateral support at Holyrood.
Posted by: Celtic Lion, Incredible humour, and attractive too on 6:33pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Well God did happen to gift me with both a beautiful appearance and [bold]incredible humour[/bold], and though I've had more than my fair share of slaps my [bold]incredible humour[/bold] has allowed me to court many a pretty lady. It has been with pleasure I have shared these talents with those who read this forums, and without doubt a number of people would have remarked recently "I've always laughed politely at your jokes but you were never [italic]this[/italic] funny. Now you seem to have [bold]incredible humour[/bold]."
[bold]Dave[/bold], you may not have uttered a LOL, nay a ROFL, a LMAO nor a ROFLMAO. You may not have provided me with a charitable donation which I am always willing to receive. And though your taste in politicians may leave a [italic]lot[/italic] to be desired your post has put you head and shoulders above the ungrateful louts who have yet to show just how grateful they are for my presence. Thank you.
And though I'm having more mood swings than a grumpy monkey today which means I wont ... just ... shut ... the ... hell ... up. Peeps do tend to take a swipe at others a little too easily. Have a chill day folks, you may (heaven forbid) just discover you like each other almost as much as you undoubtedly like me!
Yeah I've seen the video, it's a good one though and well done. We "nats" do seem to have a good supply of "directors" on You Tube.
[italic]Hopefully this goodwill post wont attract too many trolls.[/italic]
Well God did happen to gift me with both a beautiful appearance and
incredible humour, and though I've had more than my fair share of slaps my
incredible humour has allowed me to court many a pretty lady. It has been with pleasure I have shared these talents with those who read this forums, and without doubt a number of people would have remarked recently "I've always laughed politely at your jokes but you were never
this funny. Now you seem to have
incredible humour."
Dave, you may not have uttered a LOL, nay a ROFL, a LMAO nor a ROFLMAO. You may not have provided me with a charitable donation which I am always willing to receive. And though your taste in politicians may leave a
lot to be desired your post has put you head and shoulders above the ungrateful louts who have yet to show just how grateful they are for my presence. Thank you.
And though I'm having more mood swings than a grumpy monkey today which means I wont ... just ... shut ... the ... hell ... up. Peeps do tend to take a swipe at others a little too easily. Have a chill day folks, you may (heaven forbid) just discover you like each other almost as much as you undoubtedly like me!
Yeah I've seen the video, it's a good one though and well done. We "nats" do seem to have a good supply of "directors" on You Tube.
Hopefully this goodwill post wont attract too many trolls. Posted by: Dave, Away on 7:01pm Tue 29 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Celtic Lion[/bold] wrote:
I propose Wendy for European President. She'd be great. [italic]Remember, Labour knows how to spend your money better than you do.[/italic] [/quote] I confess, I did grin at this one....a mental image of her explaining things to Angela Merkel did flitter through my mind (with Chancellor Frau Doktor Merkel PhD giving her one of those one eyebrow up looks down her Germanic nose.....)....
Thanks!
Celtic Lion wrote:
I propose Wendy for European President. She'd be great. Remember, Labour knows how to spend your money better than you do.
I confess, I did grin at this one....a mental image of her explaining things to Angela Merkel did flitter through my mind (with Chancellor Frau Doktor Merkel PhD giving her one of those one eyebrow up looks down her Germanic nose.....)....
Thanks!
Posted by: Celtic Lion, Roar on 7:09pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Lol Dave, I didn't get the image in my head before. She really would be great!
Lol Dave, I didn't get the image in my head before. She really would be great!
Posted by: Anne on 7:32pm Tue 29 Jan 08
check the sunday herald: the heath ledger item, please!
check the sunday herald: the heath ledger item, please!
Posted by: Celtic Lion, Roar on 7:42pm Tue 29 Jan 08
What's the "heath ledger item"? Any chance of a link?
What's the "heath ledger item"? Any chance of a link?
Posted by: Celtic Lion, Roar on 7:44pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Never mind
Posted by: Strathturret, Montrose on 7:45pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Of course qualifications aren't all they are cracked up to be. Wendy has an MBA from the prestigious Insead institution.
I think she would have got a C minus for her non-election campaign.
Of course qualifications aren't all they are cracked up to be. Wendy has an MBA from the prestigious Insead institution.
I think she would have got a C minus for her non-election campaign.
Posted by: Strathturret, Montrose on 7:48pm Tue 29 Jan 08
I note from Wikipedia that after graduating Wendy used to work under Gorgious George Galloway.
The mind boggles!
I note from Wikipedia that after graduating Wendy used to work under Gorgious George Galloway.
The mind boggles!
Posted by: Celtic Lion, Roar on 8:19pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Boggles? I'm surprised they didn't kill each other! That's surely a personality clash designed to erupt.
Boggles? I'm surprised they didn't kill each other! That's surely a personality clash designed to erupt.
Posted by: Observer, Glasgow on 9:05pm Tue 29 Jan 08
He he I think Anne was being humorous, that thread on Sunday was all about sleeping pills if I remember. Perhaps she is suggesting some of you may be insomniacs ?
He he I think Anne was being humorous, that thread on Sunday was all about sleeping pills if I remember. Perhaps she is suggesting some of you may be insomniacs ?
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 10:26pm Tue 29 Jan 08
celtic lion.
do you think they played kitty cat? do you think wendy played the cat i mean george isnt the brightest button he had to learn that somewhere when he did it on big brother.
celtic lion.
do you think they played kitty cat? do you think wendy played the cat i mean george isnt the brightest button he had to learn that somewhere when he did it on big brother.
Posted by: Strathturret, Montrose on 10:29pm Tue 29 Jan 08
I seem to recall Private Eye always maintained that George was very keen on 'Ugandan discussions' with female assistants.
I seem to recall Private Eye always maintained that George was very keen on 'Ugandan discussions' with female assistants.
Posted by: dws on 10:39pm Tue 29 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Karin[/bold] wrote:
celtic lion. do you think they played kitty cat? do you think wendy played the cat i mean george isnt the brightest button he had to learn that somewhere when he did it on big brother. [/quote] I still have nightmares about that.
"Would you like meee.....
...to be the caaaaattttt?"
BARF!!!!
Karin wrote:
celtic lion. do you think they played kitty cat? do you think wendy played the cat i mean george isnt the brightest button he had to learn that somewhere when he did it on big brother.
I still have nightmares about that.
"Would you like meee.....
...to be the caaaaattttt?"
BARF!!!!
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 11:30pm Tue 29 Jan 08
ahh but you just knew he had done that before. i say wendy must have taught him everything he knows,
ahh but you just knew he had done that before. i say wendy must have taught him everything he knows,
Posted by: redc;liffe62, brisbane on hols, FRY creedom on 4:53am Wed 30 Jan 08
mcdonald's for example has a university in america. do they give out degrees and if so what are they worth there except to get a bit of paper? can they open a campus in cumbernauld?
i am sure mcdonalds has lots of clever people, but they are in marketing and other fields and do not flip the burgers. burger flippology is not likely to be a core subject.
personally i would like to work as a spy for mcdonalds, infiltrating the other burger establishments, finding out what makes them tick, what their secrets are in getting so many americans obese, how they formulate their pricing structure so that people buy this crap in preference to real food, and even what they actually put into the food, and then of course i would need to claim DIP lomatic immunity. sweet and sour flavour.
i am not unknown to these "delights"; have one burger a year on average, and it always tastes just as bad as i remember.
mcdonald's for example has a university in amer
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