Alexander demands apology as Gould clarifies critical poll report
Douglas Alexander, the minister criticised over the Scottish election fiasco, last night demanded an apology from those politicians who had "impugned his integrity".
After the publication of a critical report into the voting shambles earlier this week the former Scotland Secretary, who is now at the International Development Department and Gordon Brown's General Election co-ordinator, was accused by MPs of "having his finger in the till" and of "attempted gerrymandering".
But yesterday Ron Gould, the Canadian election expert who wrote the report, said in a letter to the Electorial Commission that he had never suggested specific actions were taken by ministers to advance their own party's interests.
In the light of Mr Gould's comments Mr Alexander now wants an apology from politicians including Tory leader David Cameron, shadow Scotland Secretary David Mundell, First Minister Alex Salmond and Scottish LibDem MP Alistair Carmichael.
A spokesman for Mr Alexander said: "To impugn his integrity was always wrong, and now Ron Gould has confirmed as much."
Mr Mundell, responding to the Gould letter, said: "The blame has already been accepted by Douglas Alexander."
In his letter, Mr Gould said all political parties were to blame for May's election problems. The letter, he explained, was intended to "clarify" his report's findings after argument among political parties over who was the main target of his criticism.
In his clarification he set out how he reached his findings.
"I did not suggest in the report specific actions were taken by ministers to advance their own party's interests but that all political parties were concerned with the potential political advantage that could be gained by certain decisions, such as on the question of ballot paper design, and this delayed key decisions."
He concluded that "while responsibility for taking these decisions lay with the Scotland Office and the Scottish Executive, all political parties were involved in the long-running debates, contributed to the final decisions and shared in the failure to prioritise the interests of the voter."
Meanwhile, a senior Labour figure acknowledged "administrative" responsibility for the Holyrood elections could be transferred to Scotland. Former minister Andy Kerr said he would be relaxed about the move.
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Posted by: Boaby Swingin, so laid back, man on 10:27pm Thu 25 Oct 07
Devastatingly desirable moist-mouthed Wendy Alexander said, "Andy Kerr says he is relaxed - he isn't kidding! He's so relaxed he's near comatose - the big bawfaced limp lettuce.
Not like my honey, the leader of the Tartanistas - he's always up for it. And if you think he isn't, then that's another broken promise the SNP failed to keep."
Devastatingly desirable moist-mouthed Wendy Alexander said, "Andy Kerr says he is relaxed - he isn't kidding! He's so relaxed he's near comatose - the big bawfaced limp lettuce.
Not like my honey, the leader of the Tartanistas - he's always up for it. And if you think he isn't, then that's another broken promise the SNP failed to keep."
Posted by: Huttcity, New Zealand on 10:30pm Thu 25 Oct 07
You have got to be[bold] fecking[/bold] kidding me!
You have got to be
fecking kidding me!
Posted by: Nevyn, Glasgow on 10:32pm Thu 25 Oct 07
Spin and counter spin. The fact remains that Douglas Alexander made the final decisions and failed miserably. The two areas most affected were Glasgow and Edinburgh where Mr Alexander had the papers changed in such a way that voters of all parties were confused about the rules.
Before attacking others for "impugning his integrity' he first has to evidence any integrity to impugn. If he had any, he would have done the honourable thing and tendered his resignation.
Spin and counter spin. The fact remains that Douglas Alexander made the final decisions and failed miserably. The two areas most affected were Glasgow and Edinburgh where Mr Alexander had the papers changed in such a way that voters of all parties were confused about the rules.
Before attacking others for "impugning his integrity' he first has to evidence any integrity to impugn. If he had any, he would have done the honourable thing and tendered his resignation.
Posted by: David Alexander on 10:34pm Thu 25 Oct 07
He's a cheeky wee nyaff.
Posted by: No a numpty, under yer kilt on 10:40pm Thu 25 Oct 07
Alexander has already apologised. Why does Eck find it so difficult to say sorry?
Alexander has already apologised. Why does Eck find it so difficult to say sorry?
Posted by: Huttcity, New Zealand on 10:40pm Thu 25 Oct 07
When I read stories like this I consider buying a rifle...
When I read stories like this I consider buying a rifle...
Posted by: Maria Regina on 10:51pm Thu 25 Oct 07
[quote][bold]No a numpty[/bold] wrote:
Alexander has already apologised. Why does Eck find it so difficult to say sorry?[/quote] Perhaps because at least a dozen or so of your lying NuLabor scum should be sitting in jail, not continuing to take money out of taxpayer's profits.
No a numpty wrote:
Alexander has already apologised. Why does Eck find it so difficult to say sorry?
Perhaps because at least a dozen or so of your lying NuLabor scum should be sitting in jail, not continuing to take money out of taxpayer's profits.
Posted by: Scotland, The World on 10:56pm Thu 25 Oct 07
Dear Dougie,
We sincerely apologise to you. We humbly seek your forgiveness for our role in participating in elections you managed to stuff up. When we put our 'X's on ballot papers and stuck them in ballot boxes, we were negligent in expecting a company appointed by your department to be able to achieve that simple task.
When we placed an expectation on you that your sole executive ministerial responsibility as Scottish Secretary would be discharged properly and professionally, we were remiss and we seek your forgiveness for such beliefs. Our understanding that as the minister in charge of such a farrago, you perhaps may take some semblance of responsibility for such shenanigans, is without foundation and we humbly withdraw such a charge.
PLEASE FORGIVE US, OH WISE ONE.
Yours,
Scotland
Dear Dougie,
We sincerely apologise to you. We humbly seek your forgiveness for our role in participating in elections you managed to stuff up. When we put our 'X's on ballot papers and stuck them in ballot boxes, we were negligent in expecting a company appointed by your department to be able to achieve that simple task.
When we placed an expectation on you that your sole executive ministerial responsibility as Scottish Secretary would be discharged properly and professionally, we were remiss and we seek your forgiveness for such beliefs. Our understanding that as the minister in charge of such a farrago, you perhaps may take some semblance of responsibility for such shenanigans, is without foundation and we humbly withdraw such a charge.
PLEASE FORGIVE US, OH WISE ONE.
Yours,
Scotland
Posted by: Ronald, Glasgow on 10:58pm Thu 25 Oct 07
One things for sure. When Wee Diddy Duggie finally gets his come- uppance, the torag will surely find a new career as a stand up comedian. Honour? Integrity? Don't make me vommit! There is not a single member of the NEW LABOUR PARTY that has any of these virtues. Alexander has been caught not so much with his finger in the till,as his foul snout in the trough.
The scumbag has been guilty of criminal behaviour, and appears to be walking away from it because of our utterly useless and corrupt police and prosecution service.
One things for sure. When Wee Diddy Duggie finally gets his come- uppance, the torag will surely find a new career as a stand up comedian. Honour? Integrity? Don't make me vommit! There is not a single member of the NEW LABOUR PARTY that has any of these virtues. Alexander has been caught not so much with his finger in the till,as his foul snout in the trough.
The scumbag has been guilty of criminal behaviour, and appears to be walking away from it because of our utterly useless and corrupt police and prosecution service.
Posted by: MsJ, Glasgow on 11:05pm Thu 25 Oct 07
Now [italic]italic[/italic] that[italic]italic[/italic] is arrogance!
Posted by: Wullie Pullar, Airstrip One on 11:20pm Thu 25 Oct 07
AH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HA OH..OH..OH,, MA SIDES HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAH
AH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HA OH..OH..OH,, MA SIDES HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAH
Posted by: peterspussy, Fife on 11:20pm Thu 25 Oct 07
What this shows is how mental health and incest have a close correlation. Alexander is disturbed if he thinks he needs an apology. Keep it in the family douglas with your incest queen....
What this shows is how mental health and incest have a close correlation. Alexander is disturbed if he thinks he needs an apology. Keep it in the family douglas with your incest queen....
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 11:34pm Thu 25 Oct 07
Wee Dougie takes the huff[quote]Douglas Alexander, the minister criticised over the Scottish election fiasco, last night demanded an apology from those politicians who had "impugned his integrity".[/quote] What integrity?
As I said before, he knows his Rovian spin technique well; no one can get him on his [italic]intentions[/italic] in causing confusion among the electorate, only on his expertise in organising it.
And exactly what is wrong with being inept?
He can only gett better with practice!
LOL
Wee Dougie takes the huff
Douglas Alexander, the minister criticised over the Scottish election fiasco, last night demanded an apology from those politicians who had "impugned his integrity".
What integrity?
As I said before, he knows his Rovian spin technique well; no one can get him on his
intentions in causing confusion among the electorate, only on his expertise in organising it.
And exactly what is wrong with being inept?
He can only gett better with practice!
LOL
Posted by: EuroMac, Isolated in Europe on 11:43pm Thu 25 Oct 07
Why does Andy Kerr's opinion on the transfer of 'administrative responsibility' for the Holyrood elections matter a hoot?
I would be pretty relaxed about something that was nothing to do with me...
Why does Andy Kerr's opinion on the transfer of 'administrative responsibility' for the Holyrood elections matter a hoot?
I would be pretty relaxed about something that was nothing to do with me...
Posted by: James, Lanarkshire on 11:44pm Thu 25 Oct 07
The word on the street is that Gould was nobbled!
The word on the street is that Gould was nobbled!
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 12:02am Fri 26 Oct 07
Alexander wants the "great" back in his name[quote]After the publication of a critical report into the voting shambles Alexander was accused by MPs of "having his finger in the till" and of "attempted gerrymandering".[/quote] Throw him to Paxman.
[bold]PAX:[/bold] Are you inept or corrupt?
[bold]ALE:[/bold] I resent both questions!
[bold]PAX:[/bold] Very well, I'll rephrase that: can anybody organise an election worse than you?
[bold]ALE:[/bold] You ask me to reply to a hypothetical question-
[bold]PAX:[/bold] No, I am asking you if you feel contrite about the disaster.
[bold]ALE:[/bold] Yes. I did not cook the books well enough.
[bold]PAX:[/bold] So you admit to being up to no good?
[bold]ALE:[/bold] Well, of course. I am a member of the Labour party. It's my duty.
[bold]PAX:[/bold] And you were instruumental in Brown's humiliation in pushing for a general election- oh, I'm sorry we have run out of time. It's over to the silly wee tartan Newsnight broadcast from somewhere in darkest Glasgow.
Alexander wants the "great" back in his name
After the publication of a critical report into the voting shambles Alexander was accused by MPs of "having his finger in the till" and of "attempted gerrymandering".
Throw him to Paxman.
PAX: Are you inept or corrupt?
ALE: I resent both questions!
PAX: Very well, I'll rephrase that: can anybody organise an election worse than you?
ALE: You ask me to reply to a hypothetical question-
PAX: No, I am asking you if you feel contrite about the disaster.
ALE: Yes. I did not cook the books well enough.
PAX: So you admit to being up to no good?
ALE: Well, of course. I am a member of the Labour party. It's my duty.
PAX: And you were instruumental in Brown's humiliation in pushing for a general election- oh, I'm sorry we have run out of time. It's over to the silly wee tartan Newsnight broadcast from somewhere in darkest Glasgow.
Posted by: Addison De Witt on 12:06am Fri 26 Oct 07
The Gould Report knifes Douglas Alexander in the back and front.
and cuts him to shreds.
Cue Bernard Herrmann Psycho Shower Curtain music.
The Gould Report knifes Douglas Alexander in the back and front.
and cuts him to shreds.
Cue Bernard Herrmann Psycho Shower Curtain music.
Posted by: Addison De Witt on 12:07am Fri 26 Oct 07
The Gould Report knifes Douglas Alexander in the back and front.
and cuts him to shreds.
Cue Bernard Herrmann Psycho Shower Curtain music.
The Gould Report knifes Douglas Alexander in the back and front.
and cuts him to shreds.
Cue Bernard Herrmann Psycho Shower Curtain music.
Posted by: Gregor Addison, Scotland on 12:19am Fri 26 Oct 07
Let me get this right, Douglas Alexander avoided being present for the release of the findings of Gould's report to parliament - we can only assume deliberately, so the mud wouldn't stick - then, when that tactic didn't work, apologised. He must have felt, surely, there was something to apologise for. What could that have been? What exactly was Douglas Alexander apologising for? Was it because he sincerely believed he'd played a part in messing up the Scottish election? Certainly, that's the opinion of many people not only in Scotland. Now that Gould's lost his bottle - who leant on him, I wonder - Douglas Alexander feels vindicated and wants us all to apologise. He seems obsessed with his own image. "To impugn his integrity was wrong"? Was it with integrity that he mishandled the election? Was it with integrity that he sought partisan advantage? Does Douglas Alexander really expect sympathy after the debacle that he delivered on May 3rd?
Let me get this right, Douglas Alexander avoided being present for the release of the findings of Gould's report to parliament - we can only assume deliberately, so the mud wouldn't stick - then, when that tactic didn't work, apologised. He must have felt, surely, there was something to apologise for. What could that have been? What exactly was Douglas Alexander apologising for? Was it because he sincerely believed he'd played a part in messing up the Scottish election? Certainly, that's the opinion of many people not only in Scotland. Now that Gould's lost his bottle - who leant on him, I wonder - Douglas Alexander feels vindicated and wants us all to apologise. He seems obsessed with his own image. "To impugn his integrity was wrong"? Was it with integrity that he mishandled the election? Was it with integrity that he sought partisan advantage? Does Douglas Alexander really expect sympathy after the debacle that he delivered on May 3rd?
Posted by: Brian Blessed, Glasgow on 12:19am Fri 26 Oct 07
Canadian citizens, as members of the Commonwealth, are entitled to sit in the House of Lords, if enobled by the government of the day (c.f. Conrad Black)
So how long can we wait till the ermine suppliers receive a call from Baron Gould of Ottawa?
Canadian citizens, as members of the Commonwealth, are entitled to sit in the House of Lords, if enobled by the government of the day (c.f. Conrad Black)
So how long can we wait till the ermine suppliers receive a call from Baron Gould of Ottawa?
Posted by: Mairi Woolfson, Renfrew on 12:41am Fri 26 Oct 07
I'm never really sure who Douglas Alexander is and I don't think he really exists. I think there's a hermaphrodite (if that's the right word) drawing two salaries from two parliaments. There's a thin wispy character calling himself/herself "Douglas" Alexander getting paid by London and there's another one (a bit less wispy and girly) calling himself/herself Wendy, getting financed from Edinburgh. Are they one and the same person? I've always thought "Wendy" was a bit obvious as a tranny name, a bit like Mimi Corsette or Trixie la Treat. PS. Labour jihadists, don't claim all Nationalists are anti-TV/TS/GLBT - I am a transgendered Newfoundlander and find your attempts to support the insupportable simply sad and desperate. Canada Rocks!
I'm never really sure who Douglas Alexander is and I don't think he really exists. I think there's a hermaphrodite (if that's the right word) drawing two salaries from two parliaments. There's a thin wispy character calling himself/herself "Douglas" Alexander getting paid by London and there's another one (a bit less wispy and girly) calling himself/herself Wendy, getting financed from Edinburgh. Are they one and the same person? I've always thought "Wendy" was a bit obvious as a tranny name, a bit like Mimi Corsette or Trixie la Treat. PS. Labour jihadists, don't claim all Nationalists are anti-TV/TS/GLBT - I am a transgendered Newfoundlander and find your attempts to support the insupportable simply sad and desperate. Canada Rocks!
Posted by: Gregor Addison, Scotland on 12:53am Fri 26 Oct 07
Hey Mairi, you goofy newfy, I think you might have hit the nail on the head. Maybe Labour have a plan to replace us all with self-replicating worms. I don't know if worms are transgender or hermaphrodite, but for some reason I could see them vote Labour. After all, they're wriggly and two-faced. If you cut them in half they continue to grow. By the way, when I was a boy - I mean that in the sense of when I wasn't a full grown man, not in the sense of when I was a boy and I'm now a woman - a tranny was something you listened to Radio Luxembourg on. Is that still the case?
Hey Mairi, you goofy newfy, I think you might have hit the nail on the head. Maybe Labour have a plan to replace us all with self-replicating worms. I don't know if worms are transgender or hermaphrodite, but for some reason I could see them vote Labour. After all, they're wriggly and two-faced. If you cut them in half they continue to grow. By the way, when I was a boy - I mean that in the sense of when I wasn't a full grown man, not in the sense of when I was a boy and I'm now a woman - a tranny was something you listened to Radio Luxembourg on. Is that still the case?
Posted by: Gregor Addison, Scotland on 1:02am Fri 26 Oct 07
By the way, has anyone else noticed that STV had a rush of blood to the brain in running the SNP cosy up to Nazis story tonight. Apparently, according to third channel, Alex Salmond regularly warms the slippers of Robert Mugabe and fries Iran's eggs sunny side up. That Salmond should get the sack. He's a bad man. Thank God STV are maintaining a high standard of political commentary. I confess, however, that I really miss Bernard Ponsonby. I never, ever, thought I'd have to publicly confess that. but when you look at what they're working with, you long to see him back. What are the odds on America trying to tackle Iran? What with the Russians wading in. Anyone got a view on that?
By the way, has anyone else noticed that STV had a rush of blood to the brain in running the SNP cosy up to Nazis story tonight. Apparently, according to third channel, Alex Salmond regularly warms the slippers of Robert Mugabe and fries Iran's eggs sunny side up. That Salmond should get the sack. He's a bad man. Thank God STV are maintaining a high standard of political commentary. I confess, however, that I really miss Bernard Ponsonby. I never, ever, thought I'd have to publicly confess that. but when you look at what they're working with, you long to see him back. What are the odds on America trying to tackle Iran? What with the Russians wading in. Anyone got a view on that?
Posted by: David, Away on 1:42am Fri 26 Oct 07
Hmmm....two thoughts:
1. Since the Gould report *did* castrate the person in charge of the process for balloting either
A: the person in charge was bent on ill-doing
or
B: the person in charge was incompetent
Now, M. Alexander has denied ill-doing.....I wonder if he realizes what option that leaves?
2. Mairi I find your posts highly offensive. How could anyone confuse that vampire-like flake in the south with that Full-blooded, pulse-accelerating vixen in the North. They may be brother and sister but please do not tarnish the hot, sultry, Northern Minx of the Labour Party with the varnish of her disturbingly Blairesque bruder.
Wendy for Queen of Scotland!!!!!
Hmmm....two thoughts:
1. Since the Gould report *did* castrate the person in charge of the process for balloting either
A: the person in charge was bent on ill-doing
or
B: the person in charge was incompetent
Now, M. Alexander has denied ill-doing.....I wonder if he realizes what option that leaves?
2. Mairi I find your posts highly offensive. How could anyone confuse that vampire-like flake in the south with that Full-blooded, pulse-accelerating vixen in the North. They may be brother and sister but please do not tarnish the hot, sultry, Northern Minx of the Labour Party with the varnish of her disturbingly Blairesque bruder.
Wendy for Queen of Scotland!!!!!
Posted by: David, Away on 2:08am Fri 26 Oct 07
Gregor @ 1:02 wrote (somewhat off-topic :-) ):
"What are the odds on America trying to tackle Iran? What with the Russians wading in. Anyone got a view on that?"
The US Chief will balance Putin against the reality that the Israeli's have made it clear that if they are taken out (which the madman running Iran has promised to do) they will take out the rest of the planet (and we believe they aren't joking)...and with the risks of China becoming involved (that four-lane military highway reaches all the way through Tibet, now - and China believes it has some historic claims to owning Persia)...with the unpredictability of the ruling Hindu party (whoops, they have thermonuclear weapons too....and after a few beers at a professor's party I recall a couple of leading Indian leaders ready to start nuking Saudi Arabia right then....)
I'm glad I don't have that complicated a life....
My guess is that the above mentioned are trying to push the Mullah's of Iran into getting rid of the current radical racist leader and replacing him with someone more sane.....hopefully the Mullah's aren't drinking from the same well as their President....
I'd wish for the cheerful old days of the Cold War, except that I remember what it was like.
Cheers!
David
Gregor @ 1:02 wrote (somewhat off-topic :-) ):
"What are the odds on America trying to tackle Iran? What with the Russians wading in. Anyone got a view on that?"
The US Chief will balance Putin against the reality that the Israeli's have made it clear that if they are taken out (which the madman running Iran has promised to do) they will take out the rest of the planet (and we believe they aren't joking)...and with the risks of China becoming involved (that four-lane military highway reaches all the way through Tibet, now - and China believes it has some historic claims to owning Persia)...with the unpredictability of the ruling Hindu party (whoops, they have thermonuclear weapons too....and after a few beers at a professor's party I recall a couple of leading Indian leaders ready to start nuking Saudi Arabia right then....)
I'm glad I don't have that complicated a life....
My guess is that the above mentioned are trying to push the Mullah's of Iran into getting rid of the current radical racist leader and replacing him with someone more sane.....hopefully the Mullah's aren't drinking from the same well as their President....
I'd wish for the cheerful old days of the Cold War, except that I remember what it was like.
Cheers!
David
Posted by: Kinghob on 2:18am Fri 26 Oct 07
The fire fighters valiantly protecting California as we speak wouldn't be enough to subdue the political flames emanating from the medium rare arse of Douglas Alexander.
Rest assured his goose/arse is well on the way to being cooked because the judgement of the Labour leadership must be askew to protect the wee scallywag thus far as they appear determined to do.
The man is a political disaster, asking for an apology is yet another stupid move, and asking for trouble.
So let's cross our fingers and have a much needed larf. ;)
The fire fighters valiantly protecting California as we speak wouldn't be enough to subdue the political flames emanating from the medium rare arse of Douglas Alexander.
Rest assured his goose/arse is well on the way to being cooked because the judgement of the Labour leadership must be askew to protect the wee scallywag thus far as they appear determined to do.
The man is a political disaster, asking for an apology is yet another stupid move, and asking for trouble.
So let's cross our fingers and have a much needed larf. ;)
Posted by: Guru Gordon, US on 3:00am Fri 26 Oct 07
Impugning his what?????
My denture almost fell out when I read that one. Who is he trying to kid? Integrity? He wouldn't know what that was if it hit him right between his scheming snake-like eyes!
Impugning his what?????
My denture almost fell out when I read that one. Who is he trying to kid? Integrity? He wouldn't know what that was if it hit him right between his scheming snake-like eyes!
Posted by: Wullie on 4:39am Fri 26 Oct 07
Oh dear - the arrogance of New Labour is astonishing and from Douglas Alexander's comments it is cyrstal clear that he and his New Labour master are above reproach.
That's right , let us brook no dissent. This is the state of New Labour and the Iron Fist will prevail.
I can just imagine all the fist banging in the Kremlin as the iron fist was repeatedly banged on the number ten table as Canadian expert Mr Gould's report was read. It would not be a pleasant site.
Go on the attack Douglas my boy, get stuck in, tell em you've nothing to answer for, demand an apology.
Oh, only joking, yes only joking. I am sorry, yes truly sorry that I could ever think that anything was wrong. I apologise un-reservedly.
Yes Mr Cameron, Mr Salmond, Mr Mundell,
Oh dear - the arrogance of New Labour is astonishing and from Douglas Alexander's comments it is cyrstal clear that he and his New Labour master are above reproach.
That's right , let us brook no dissent. This is the state of New Labour and the Iron Fist will prevail.
I can just imagine all the fist banging in the Kremlin as the iron fist was repeatedly banged on the number ten table as Canadian expert Mr Gould's report was read. It would not be a pleasant site.
Go on the attack Douglas my boy, get stuck in, tell em you've nothing to answer for, demand an apology.
Oh, only joking, yes only joking. I am sorry, yes truly sorry that I could ever think that anything was wrong. I apologise un-reservedly.
Yes Mr Cameron, Mr Salmond, Mr Mundell,
Posted by: donald, glasgow on 5:09am Fri 26 Oct 07
Ben Dover House denies Alexander was in at the time. Special alibi plea claiming Dougie was in the kennles outside no. 10 at thee time.
Ben Dover House denies Alexander was in at the time. Special alibi plea claiming Dougie was in the kennles outside no. 10 at thee time.
Posted by: juan Kerr and his other hand....., ETHENPPEE! AND FWEEDOM on 5:26am Fri 26 Oct 07
[quote][bold]Los Angeles[/bold] wrote:
Wee Dougie takes the huff[quote]Douglas Alexander, the minister criticised over the Scottish election fiasco, last night demanded an apology from those politicians who had "impugned his integrity".[/quote] What integrity? As I said before, he knows his Rovian spin technique well; no one can get him on his [italic]intentions[/italic] in causing confusion among the electorate, only on his expertise in organising it. And exactly what is wrong with being inept? He can only gett better with practice! LOL[/quote] As he was the one who "impuned" his integrity he should publicly appologise to himself?
If you ever need to think how arrogant the career politicos of labour act this is a prime example.
A bunch of self serving and arrogant wee beasties.
[bold]I personally would spit in front of these traitors wherever they turn up. Forget respect , that should only go to the desserving.[/bold]
Los Angeles wrote:
Wee Dougie takes the huffDouglas Alexander, the minister criticised over the Scottish election fiasco, last night demanded an apology from those politicians who had "impugned his integrity".
What integrity? As I said before, he knows his Rovian spin technique well; no one can get him on his intentions in causing confusion among the electorate, only on his expertise in organising it. And exactly what is wrong with being inept? He can only gett better with practice! LOL
As he was the one who "impuned" his integrity he should publicly appologise to himself?
If you ever need to think how arrogant the career politicos of labour act this is a prime example.
A bunch of self serving and arrogant wee beasties.
I personally would spit in front of these traitors wherever they turn up. Forget respect , that should only go to the desserving. Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 6:14am Fri 26 Oct 07
Guru Gordon Is dumbstruck[quote]Impugning his what?????[/quote] He will most assuredly squeal a bit more then be told by Gordon to shut up because he is embarrassing the party.
Guru Gordon Is dumbstruck
Impugning his what?????
He will most assuredly squeal a bit more then be told by Gordon to shut up because he is embarrassing the party.
Posted by: James, Lanarkshire on 7:43am Fri 26 Oct 07
Hold your breath (extract from Herald article):
[italic]"Awards for Scots on the world stage
The award could go to a Scottish politician prominent in international affairs, such as International Development Secretary Douglas Alexander, or one of the country's seven Members of the European Parliament."[/italic]
Hold your breath (extract from Herald article):
"Awards for Scots on the world stage
The award could go to a Scottish politician prominent in international affairs, such as International Development Secretary Douglas Alexander, or one of the country's seven Members of the European Parliament." Posted by: dws on 7:57am Fri 26 Oct 07
[quote][bold]James[/bold] wrote:
Hold your breath (extract from Herald article): [italic]\"Awards for Scots on the world stage The award could go to a Scottish politician prominent in international affairs, such as International Development Secretary Douglas Alexander, or one of the country\'s seven Members of the European Parliament.\"[/italic] [/quote] Wonderful, isn't it?
The only award this specimen should be getting is a sentence from a High Court Judge.
James wrote:
Hold your breath (extract from Herald article): \"Awards for Scots on the world stage The award could go to a Scottish politician prominent in international affairs, such as International Development Secretary Douglas Alexander, or one of the country\'s seven Members of the European Parliament.\"
Wonderful, isn't it?
The only award this specimen should be getting is a sentence from a High Court Judge.
Posted by: Santa, Lapland on 8:38am Fri 26 Oct 07
James wrote:
Hold your breath (extract from Herald article):
"Awards for Scots on the world stage
The award could go to a Scottish politician prominent in international affairs, such as International Development Secretary Douglas Alexander, or one of the country's seven Members of the European Parliament."
I thought this was a spoof. I nearly fell off my stool when I found it's from an actual article. I nearly wrote 'real article', but surreal is more like it. What on earth is going on at the Herald? Perhaps they're preparing the ground for a coup d'etat? All for our own good of course. Serve us all right for daring to criticise our betters.
James wrote:
Hold your breath (extract from Herald article):
"Awards for Scots on the world stage
The award could go to a Scottish politician prominent in international affairs, such as International Development Secretary Douglas Alexander, or one of the country's seven Members of the European Parliament."
I thought this was a spoof. I nearly fell off my stool when I found it's from an actual article. I nearly wrote 'real article', but surreal is more like it. What on earth is going on at the Herald? Perhaps they're preparing the ground for a coup d'etat? All for our own good of course. Serve us all right for daring to criticise our betters.
Posted by: Buris, Larky on 8:38am Fri 26 Oct 07
Turdlas's favourite song is Nice N' Sleazy by The Stranglers.
Turdlas's favourite song is Nice N' Sleazy by The Stranglers.
Posted by: Jim, Scotland on 8:43am Fri 26 Oct 07
There must be a case for the charge of gerrymandering, under the “representation of the People Act” here.
Now an astute Lawyer or Barrister could surly find a law that has not been repealed in order to protect the “Guilty”.
The “Cash for Honours” springs to mind, the fallout from that fiasco has not finished yet; the enquiry officer still says that No 10 did all they could to delay and divert these enquires.
So come on you lot lets have a concerted effort, and we might manage to get “Dougie” in Court yet under ”Scots Law”
There must be a case for the charge of gerrymandering, under the “representation of the People Act” here.
Now an astute Lawyer or Barrister could surly find a law that has not been repealed in order to protect the “Guilty”.
The “Cash for Honours” springs to mind, the fallout from that fiasco has not finished yet; the enquiry officer still says that No 10 did all they could to delay and divert these enquires.
So come on you lot lets have a concerted effort, and we might manage to get “Dougie” in Court yet under ”Scots Law”
Posted by: THE LAIRD., LEADHILLS. on 8:43am Fri 26 Oct 07
WHAT INTEGRITY,
THIS GUTLESS CRAWLER WOULD,NT RECOGNISE INTEGRITY IF IT WAS STARING HIM IN THE FACE A HALF BOILED BAT MAN FOR MAGGIE BROON THIS LOT HAVE TURNED THIS COUNTRY BRITAIN INTO A BANANA REPUBLIC.
WHAT INTEGRITY,
THIS GUTLESS CRAWLER WOULD,NT RECOGNISE INTEGRITY IF IT WAS STARING HIM IN THE FACE A HALF BOILED BAT MAN FOR MAGGIE BROON THIS LOT HAVE TURNED THIS COUNTRY BRITAIN INTO A BANANA REPUBLIC.
Posted by: Horsevet, Glasgow on 8:57am Fri 26 Oct 07
D Alexander was the captain of the ship at the time, he must take responsibility for the actions of others over whom he had ultimate control, that is what taking a position of responsibilty means.
Of course other parties took advantage of the the situation, that is there right and duty having been given the chance.
I can't beleive alexander has the face to demand anything.
It is quite clear that neither alexander twin is fit for their role.
D Alexander was the captain of the ship at the time, he must take responsibility for the actions of others over whom he had ultimate control, that is what taking a position of responsibilty means.
Of course other parties took advantage of the the situation, that is there right and duty having been given the chance.
I can't beleive alexander has the face to demand anything.
It is quite clear that neither alexander twin is fit for their role.
Posted by: Mac, Dundee on 9:26am Fri 26 Oct 07
Ron Gould in retracting his key conclusion has turned his own report into an government WHITEWASH. Mr Gould now stands shoulder-to-shoulder with Lord Hutton. People will never believe in so called independent investigative reports again.
Ron Gould you have made a complete erse o' yersel, and that's official.
Ron Gould in retracting his key conclusion has turned his own report into an government WHITEWASH. Mr Gould now stands shoulder-to-shoulder with Lord Hutton. People will never believe in so called independent investigative reports again.
Ron Gould you have made a complete erse o' yersel, and that's official.
Posted by: GB on 9:30am Fri 26 Oct 07
Brilliant, it turns out that there's no such thing as ministerial responsibility. It's everyone's fault from now on.
Brilliant, it turns out that there's no such thing as ministerial responsibility. It's everyone's fault from now on.
Posted by: RETIRED....... but still switched on, Fed Up To The Teeth on 9:37am Fri 26 Oct 07
Alexander the GRATE !!!
Is their anybody out there who wouldn't happily kick the e**e of this insufferably pompous lying nyaff ????
Where are you JASON4QUEEN?????
Alexander the GRATE !!!
Is their anybody out there who wouldn't happily kick the e**e of this insufferably pompous lying nyaff ????
Where are you JASON4QUEEN?????
Posted by: Alibi on 9:41am Fri 26 Oct 07
The real story here is why Gould has apparently U-turned. It wouldn't be the case that he's been leaned on, would it? His unequivocal view in his report was that Labour tried to fix the election - now they are trying to blame the other parties, at least 2 of which (SNP and Tories) weren't in power.
This whole thing stinks. David Kelly, Cash for Peerages, the list goes on and on.
Labour = Crooks.
The real story here is why Gould has apparently U-turned. It wouldn't be the case that he's been leaned on, would it? His unequivocal view in his report was that Labour tried to fix the election - now they are trying to blame the other parties, at least 2 of which (SNP and Tories) weren't in power.
This whole thing stinks. David Kelly, Cash for Peerages, the list goes on and on.
Labour = Crooks.
Posted by: Mac, Dundee on 9:53am Fri 26 Oct 07
[quote][bold]Alibi[/bold] wrote:
The real story here is why Gould has apparently U-turned. It wouldn't be the case that he's been leaned on, would it? His unequivocal view in his report was that Labour tried to fix the election - now they are trying to blame the other parties, at least 2 of which (SNP and Tories) weren't in power.
This whole thing stinks. David Kelly, Cash for Peerages, the list goes on and on.
Labour = Crooks.[/quote] I agree the whole thing does indeed stink.
Prior to the report there were newspaper stories that Mr. Gould was to name names. That didn't happen, he blamed faceless ministers. Now a few days after this report Mr. Gould now retracts that key conclusion. In effect Mr. Gould is now blaming all the parties, all the candidates and all the voters for what happened in May 2007.
I'm not sure if Ron Gould has been leaned, I would not be surprised if that did happen, but he made himself now look completely foolish. He is now rubbing shoulders with Lord Hutton, because his retraction has turned his own report into a WHITEWASH.
RON GOULD YOU ARE AN IDIOT. YOU HAVE MADE THIS WHOLE FIASCO MUCH WORSE BY TURING IT INTO A FARCE.
(Not sure if he could hear that back in Canada, but I hope his ears are burning)
Alibi wrote:
The real story here is why Gould has apparently U-turned. It wouldn't be the case that he's been leaned on, would it? His unequivocal view in his report was that Labour tried to fix the election - now they are trying to blame the other parties, at least 2 of which (SNP and Tories) weren't in power.
This whole thing stinks. David Kelly, Cash for Peerages, the list goes on and on.
Labour = Crooks.
I agree the whole thing does indeed stink.
Prior to the report there were newspaper stories that Mr. Gould was to name names. That didn't happen, he blamed faceless ministers. Now a few days after this report Mr. Gould now retracts that key conclusion. In effect Mr. Gould is now blaming all the parties, all the candidates and all the voters for what happened in May 2007.
I'm not sure if Ron Gould has been leaned, I would not be surprised if that did happen, but he made himself now look completely foolish. He is now rubbing shoulders with Lord Hutton, because his retraction has turned his own report into a WHITEWASH.
RON GOULD YOU ARE AN IDIOT. YOU HAVE MADE THIS WHOLE FIASCO MUCH WORSE BY TURING IT INTO A FARCE.
(Not sure if he could hear that back in Canada, but I hope his ears are burning)
Posted by: marianne on 9:59am Fri 26 Oct 07
The witterer Gould obviously does not have the courage of his convictions insofar as he's now back-peddling on what was stated quite clearly in his report. Quite obviously he has been nobbled. He should go back to Canada and retire.
What a disgrace.
Douglas Alexander as the man in charge should have shouldered his responsibilities and tendered his resignation when the full implications of the debacle became known in May. But integrity was never a strong point of Nu Labour and preserving Alexander's career prospects has ever been to the fore.
Now he - with Gordon Brown's had up his back - demands an apology? Shameful!! And let us not forget that Gordon Brown's hands aren't clean in this either because he attended meetings about the Scottish elections and no doubt added his pennyworth. But his interest has only come to the fore because David Cameron has got a hold of it and made probity and competence an issue.
The witterer Gould obviously does not have the courage of his convictions insofar as he's now back-peddling on what was stated quite clearly in his report. Quite obviously he has been nobbled. He should go back to Canada and retire.
What a disgrace.
Douglas Alexander as the man in charge should have shouldered his responsibilities and tendered his resignation when the full implications of the debacle became known in May. But integrity was never a strong point of Nu Labour and preserving Alexander's career prospects has ever been to the fore.
Now he - with Gordon Brown's had up his back - demands an apology? Shameful!! And let us not forget that Gordon Brown's hands aren't clean in this either because he attended meetings about the Scottish elections and no doubt added his pennyworth. But his interest has only come to the fore because David Cameron has got a hold of it and made probity and competence an issue.
Posted by: art1000, Dunfermline on 10:10am Fri 26 Oct 07
The reports conclusions were clear and written. NuLab tried to manipulate the election for party advantage I believe. However in the YUK parliament Broon restricted himself to comments Gould had 'said' in clarification after publishing apparently blaming all parties and ignored the written conclusions. Ok, hold him under oath and repeat it in front of a judge in a full judicial enquiry.
The reports conclusions were clear and written. NuLab tried to manipulate the election for party advantage I believe. However in the YUK parliament Broon restricted himself to comments Gould had 'said' in clarification after publishing apparently blaming all parties and ignored the written conclusions. Ok, hold him under oath and repeat it in front of a judge in a full judicial enquiry.
Posted by: Seumas, Tain on 10:17am Fri 26 Oct 07
Three amazing coincidences which could have brought ,at least,
embarassment to the labour party, i.e. Scottish elections, Hutton, and cash for peerages, all fizzle out, strange , very strange.
The truth would be interesting, but sadly, we will never know.
The only recourse the electorate has will be at the next election and I hope they will remember.
Three amazing coincidences which could have brought ,at least,
embarassment to the labour party, i.e. Scottish elections, Hutton, and cash for peerages, all fizzle out, strange , very strange.
The truth would be interesting, but sadly, we will never know.
The only recourse the electorate has will be at the next election and I hope they will remember.
Posted by: seaweasel, Glasgow on 10:24am Fri 26 Oct 07
[quote][bold]David Alexander[/bold] wrote:
He's a cheeky wee nyaff.[/quote] Why is the phrase "wee nyaff" so easy to associate with both Alexanders? I met Her Wendyness back in the day when she was Minister for Enterprise and Something or Other, and I remember using the same expression to describe her afterwards.
Back on topic though, Nyaff Junior expecting an apology? I think all the stress of telling Third World countries how to fudge an election has made him one ballot short of a box.
David Alexander wrote:
He's a cheeky wee nyaff.
Why is the phrase "wee nyaff" so easy to associate with both Alexanders? I met Her Wendyness back in the day when she was Minister for Enterprise and Something or Other, and I remember using the same expression to describe her afterwards.
Back on topic though, Nyaff Junior expecting an apology? I think all the stress of telling Third World countries how to fudge an election has made him one ballot short of a box.
Posted by: Mac, Dundee on 10:30am Fri 26 Oct 07
[quote][bold]Seumas[/bold] wrote:
Three amazing coincidences which could have brought ,at least,
embarassment to the labour party, i.e. Scottish elections, Hutton, and cash for peerages, all fizzle out, strange , very strange.
The truth would be interesting, but sadly, we will never know.
The only recourse the electorate has will be at the next election and I hope they will remember.[/quote] An interesting aspect about the cash for peerages where the claims by lobby journalists that the police were leaking aspects of their investigation to them. That claim was roundly denied by the officers, who said they have never met or talked to any lobby journalist.
Hutton, cash for honours and the Gould report should have brought the Labour party to book, and to court, in the way ministers of the crown behaved. A crime has been committed and while the guilty have walked free the witnesses to that crime have not.
Lets repeat what Ron Gould has done - he has retracted the key conclusion in his report and now blames everyone, apart from Douglas Alexander, for the election fiasco.
I don't about other voters but I feel insulted by Ron Gould's assertion.
MR GOULD YOU ARE A FOOL.
Seumas wrote:
Three amazing coincidences which could have brought ,at least,
embarassment to the labour party, i.e. Scottish elections, Hutton, and cash for peerages, all fizzle out, strange , very strange.
The truth would be interesting, but sadly, we will never know.
The only recourse the electorate has will be at the next election and I hope they will remember.
An interesting aspect about the cash for peerages where the claims by lobby journalists that the police were leaking aspects of their investigation to them. That claim was roundly denied by the officers, who said they have never met or talked to any lobby journalist.
Hutton, cash for honours and the Gould report should have brought the Labour party to book, and to court, in the way ministers of the crown behaved. A crime has been committed and while the guilty have walked free the witnesses to that crime have not.
Lets repeat what Ron Gould has done - he has retracted the key conclusion in his report and now blames everyone, apart from Douglas Alexander, for the election fiasco.
I don't about other voters but I feel insulted by Ron Gould's assertion.
MR GOULD YOU ARE A FOOL.
Posted by: TheWiseOne, Glasgow on 10:35am Fri 26 Oct 07
If the May elections had been a great success with Labour winning, wee Dougie would have been basking in the limelight, telling us all how wonderful he is.
But he flunked it and has done everything in his power to divert blame on others.
The truth is this: If he had performed like this in an outside company, he would have got an apology. " Sorry Dougie, but after the mess you have made, I am afraid we have no option but to sack you"
If the May elections had been a great success with Labour winning, wee Dougie would have been basking in the limelight, telling us all how wonderful he is.
But he flunked it and has done everything in his power to divert blame on others.
The truth is this: If he had performed like this in an outside company, he would have got an apology. " Sorry Dougie, but after the mess you have made, I am afraid we have no option but to sack you"
Posted by: Pete, Bearsden on 10:55am Fri 26 Oct 07
This little prat has no shame - is this another side-effect of inbreeding and incestuous relationships?
This little prat has no shame - is this another side-effect of inbreeding and incestuous relationships?
Posted by: Spoonsy, Glasgow on 10:58am Fri 26 Oct 07
My, my. What a sad and bitter bunch we have today.
Yesterday this board was full of righteous indignation, with Mr Gould's report held high and hailed as the smoking gun which proved labour's gerrymandering tendancies.
Yet now, when he's pointed out the reasonable position that all political parties were to blame for the election ****-up, the report has suddenly become 'all spin', and the attacks on Mr Alexander have turned from the political to the personal in quite a distasteful manner.
Tell me, when you join the SNP, do you have to get your brain removed? Or is that just necessary to post on here?
And is that first poster with the Wendy fixation one of your lot? Nice.
My, my. What a sad and bitter bunch we have today.
Yesterday this board was full of righteous indignation, with Mr Gould's report held high and hailed as the smoking gun which proved labour's gerrymandering tendancies.
Yet now, when he's pointed out the reasonable position that all political parties were to blame for the election ****-up, the report has suddenly become 'all spin', and the attacks on Mr Alexander have turned from the political to the personal in quite a distasteful manner.
Tell me, when you join the SNP, do you have to get your brain removed? Or is that just necessary to post on here?
And is that first poster with the Wendy fixation one of your lot? Nice.
Posted by: Whistling in the dark on 11:12am Fri 26 Oct 07
Spoonsy comes clean - he likes the Alexanders.
Each to their own, eh Spoonsy?
Spoonsy comes clean - he likes the Alexanders.
Each to their own, eh Spoonsy?
Posted by: talorthane on 11:32am Fri 26 Oct 07
This is typical of New Labour since they got to power.
"We recognise that there was a problem. It shouldn't have happened, and we regret that it did.
However, it is not clear if any individual was wholly to blame.
Therefore, as no-one is to blame there cannot have been a problem in the first place, so there's nothing to apologise for."
The buck stops nowhere!
This is typical of New Labour since they got to power.
"We recognise that there was a problem. It shouldn't have happened, and we regret that it did.
However, it is not clear if any individual was wholly to blame.
Therefore, as no-one is to blame there cannot have been a problem in the first place, so there's nothing to apologise for."
The buck stops nowhere!
Posted by: Tom on 11:34am Fri 26 Oct 07
Sorry Douglas, I mistook you for a competent politician.
Sorry Douglas, I mistook you for a competent politician.
Posted by: iain morrison, nairn on 12:00pm Fri 26 Oct 07
integrity - little dougie gordies boy - hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahhahahah
hahahahahahahhahahah
?!!!!!!!?!
integrity - little dougie gordies boy - hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahhahahah
hahahahahahahhahahah
?!!!!!!!?!
Posted by: Whistling in the dark on 12:02pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Everyone seems to take an instant dislike to Douglas Alexander.
I conclude that the main reason is to save time.
Everyone seems to take an instant dislike to Douglas Alexander.
I conclude that the main reason is to save time.
Posted by: Jim, Irvine on 12:22pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Douglas ; If you feel that your character is impunged then Sue for
damages. Is Gould going to be your defence witness?
Dont think so ! His initial statement is gospel. His nobbled one
widnae be accepted.
Douglas ; If you feel that your character is impunged then Sue for
damages. Is Gould going to be your defence witness?
Dont think so ! His initial statement is gospel. His nobbled one
widnae be accepted.
Posted by: Mac, Dundee on 12:25pm Fri 26 Oct 07
[quote][bold]talorthane[/bold] wrote:
This is typical of New Labour since they got to power.
\"We recognise that there was a problem. It shouldn\'t have happened, and we regret that it did.
However, it is not clear if any individual was wholly to blame.
Therefore, as no-one is to blame there cannot have been a problem in the first place, so there\'s nothing to apologise for.\"
The buck stops nowhere![/quote] That is a good a summary of New Labour politicking. Bury the truth before it buries you.
talorthane wrote:
This is typical of New Labour since they got to power.
\"We recognise that there was a problem. It shouldn\'t have happened, and we regret that it did.
However, it is not clear if any individual was wholly to blame.
Therefore, as no-one is to blame there cannot have been a problem in the first place, so there\'s nothing to apologise for.\"
The buck stops nowhere!
That is a good a summary of New Labour politicking. Bury the truth before it buries you.
Posted by: ricardo on 12:47pm Fri 26 Oct 07
No sign of the nu labour liars war cry of" lessons have been learned".
Andy Kerr , is that the blubber faced loud mouth who gets overpaid to bang his desk and screem here,here, every time wee wendy opens her deformed gob during fmq,s
As for wee dougie wanting an apology for fecking up the scottish elections, on yer bike ya chancer.
No sign of the nu labour liars war cry of" lessons have been learned".
Andy Kerr , is that the blubber faced loud mouth who gets overpaid to bang his desk and screem here,here, every time wee wendy opens her deformed gob during fmq,s
As for wee dougie wanting an apology for fecking up the scottish elections, on yer bike ya chancer.
Posted by: Gordo, Fife on 12:56pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Here's a proposal for a revamped motto for New Labour north and south of the border - 'No wrongdoing, no-one responsible.'
Here's a proposal for a revamped motto for New Labour north and south of the border - 'No wrongdoing, no-one responsible.'
Posted by: Mac, Dundee on 1:39pm Fri 26 Oct 07
It just gets worse for Ron Gould. He has now been accused by the Tories of giving into pressure from sources within Whitehall.
It's time Mr. Gould came clean on this. He needs to answer a few pertinent questions.
1. Have Labour ministers been in contact with him since the publication of his report?
2. Did he come under pressure to retract the report's key finding?
3. Who suggested or instigated the letter of clarification to the Electoral Commission?
We must not have Mr. Gould flying out of the country to evade such questioning.
It just gets worse for Ron Gould. He has now been accused by the Tories of giving into pressure from sources within Whitehall.
It's time Mr. Gould came clean on this. He needs to answer a few pertinent questions.
1. Have Labour ministers been in contact with him since the publication of his report?
2. Did he come under pressure to retract the report's key finding?
3. Who suggested or instigated the letter of clarification to the Electoral Commission?
We must not have Mr. Gould flying out of the country to evade such questioning.
Posted by: talorthane on 2:03pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Mac
Given the inconsistencies between Gould's report and his verbal "clarifications" there may not be real grounds for the Scottish Government to instigate a judicial review.
Mac
Given the inconsistencies between Gould's report and his verbal "clarifications" there may not be real grounds for the Scottish Government to instigate a judicial review.
Posted by: FF, Edinburgh on 2:22pm Fri 26 Oct 07
The main parties conspired to confuse the voters. They wanted to distract them from using their top-up vote for the minor parties.
Mr Gould found in his report that several parties were to blame and re-iterated it in his clarification. He did not backtrack or whitewash.
The main parties conspired to confuse the voters. They wanted to distract them from using their top-up vote for the minor parties.
Mr Gould found in his report that several parties were to blame and re-iterated it in his clarification. He did not backtrack or whitewash.
Posted by: Ronald, Glasgow on 2:33pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Quick !! Send for Lord Geordie von Foulkes. Hahahhaha
"True patriot" and "man of integrity " - rides to Wee Diddy
Dougies rescue. If anyone can save 'im, its The Baron!
We'll all spend so much time laughing at the fat porker
that Wee Dougie can disappear while the heat cools.
Don't ya just lurve NEW LABOUR? Hahhahahaha
I read a posting the other day from a New Zealander
who said that the whole ghastly business had him wishing
to buy a rifle!! We know how ya feel buddy. We have to live
with the croocked scumbags unfortunetly!
Quick !! Send for Lord Geordie von Foulkes. Hahahhaha
"True patriot" and "man of integrity " - rides to Wee Diddy
Dougies rescue. If anyone can save 'im, its The Baron!
We'll all spend so much time laughing at the fat porker
that Wee Dougie can disappear while the heat cools.
Don't ya just lurve NEW LABOUR? Hahhahahaha
I read a posting the other day from a New Zealander
who said that the whole ghastly business had him wishing
to buy a rifle!! We know how ya feel buddy. We have to live
with the croocked scumbags unfortunetly!
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 2:46pm Fri 26 Oct 07
[bold]LABOUR: I demand an apology. I am pure as the driven sludge.
SNP: We accept the findings of the report.[/bold]
Which of those two statements is the most humble?
LABOUR: I demand an apology. I am pure as the driven sludge.
SNP: We accept the findings of the report.
Which of those two statements is the most humble?
Posted by: SWBF, Germany on 2:55pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Apology, Ive read the report, it stated that the scotland office was in charge of a fiasco brought about by poor management and allowing the politicians to pi## about with the electorial commision. The Scottish office should have had clear rules and guidelines outlining what the electoral rules are for each party. Instead the numpty Alexander didnt do this, so the labour party could P##s about with the ballot papers, when other parties saw this they themselve's started to P##s about so they wouldnt lose any political gains from this. This should not have been allowed from the start and therefore Alexander should indeed carry the can. Apology my ****.
If Alexander didnt do anything wrong then why did he apologise for any wrongdoing earlier. These guys really are numpties.
Not one party is above all of this but none of the parties should have been allowed to play this fast and this loose with the scottish electorate and that is down to the scottish office pure and simple.
Apology, Ive read the report, it stated that the scotland office was in charge of a fiasco brought about by poor management and allowing the politicians to pi## about with the electorial commision. The Scottish office should have had clear rules and guidelines outlining what the electoral rules are for each party. Instead the numpty Alexander didnt do this, so the labour party could P##s about with the ballot papers, when other parties saw this they themselve's started to P##s about so they wouldnt lose any political gains from this. This should not have been allowed from the start and therefore Alexander should indeed carry the can. Apology my ****.
If Alexander didnt do anything wrong then why did he apologise for any wrongdoing earlier. These guys really are numpties.
Not one party is above all of this but none of the parties should have been allowed to play this fast and this loose with the scottish electorate and that is down to the scottish office pure and simple.
Posted by: Democracy Demands, Glasgow on 3:04pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Well done Mr Alexander. An apology is most certainly required as Mr Goulds inital press statement left uninvolved readers with the fleeting impression that there had been some element of corrupt practise involved. Which is complete and utter nonsense.
Another example of modern day 'hyperbole' about an unfortunate episode where as far as I can deduce -- the only mistake the Scottish Office made was overestimating the electorates ability to intelligently participate in a whole two elections in one day -- thereby saving the taxpayer a veritable fortune.
A generous presumption on your part that some of todays press comment would do well to acknowledge between affecting their outrage and seeking scapegoats.
Well done Mr Alexander. An apology is most certainly required as Mr Goulds inital press statement left uninvolved readers with the fleeting impression that there had been some element of corrupt practise involved. Which is complete and utter nonsense.
Another example of modern day 'hyperbole' about an unfortunate episode where as far as I can deduce -- the only mistake the Scottish Office made was overestimating the electorates ability to intelligently participate in a whole two elections in one day -- thereby saving the taxpayer a veritable fortune.
A generous presumption on your part that some of todays press comment would do well to acknowledge between affecting their outrage and seeking scapegoats.
Posted by: Rip Van Winkle, Irvine on 3:18pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Maybe we should already be thinking about an enquiry into the Gould enquiry when in the report it clearly states that MINISTERS were more interested in partisan politics than the the needs of the electorate .The next day he says" sorry I didnae' mean that" I meant to say EVERYBODY.It seems to me if after all this time and cash he can't even get his facts right without resorting to amendments then is his report truely independent of Westminster interference.
Maybe we should already be thinking about an enquiry into the Gould enquiry when in the report it clearly states that MINISTERS were more interested in partisan politics than the the needs of the electorate .The next day he says" sorry I didnae' mean that" I meant to say EVERYBODY.It seems to me if after all this time and cash he can't even get his facts right without resorting to amendments then is his report truely independent of Westminster interference.
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 3:30pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Democracy Demands We Listen To Democracy Demands[quote]the only mistake the Scottish Office made was overestimating the electorates ability to intelligently participate in a whole two elections in one day[/quote]There's nothing like insulting the electorate you hope to persuade to your point of view.
Democracy Demands We Listen To Democracy Demands
the only mistake the Scottish Office made was overestimating the electorates ability to intelligently participate in a whole two elections in one day
There's nothing like insulting the electorate you hope to persuade to your point of view.
Posted by: B Batts, Liverpool on 4:44pm Fri 26 Oct 07
hear hear democracy demands. anyone who doesn't have intelligence to understand a ballot paper should forfeit the right to vote. do we really want such morons deciding our nations future?
hear hear democracy demands. anyone who doesn't have intelligence to understand a ballot paper should forfeit the right to vote. do we really want such morons deciding our nations future?
Posted by: expat, cheshire on 5:04pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Dougie, when you are
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