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MSPs need more time to get their thinking caps on, report says
DOUGLAS FRASER, Scottish Political EditorMay 28 2007

MSPs need more time to make use of Holyrood's famous "think pods", among a range of changes recommended for the way they work in the third session of the Scottish Parliament.

They are being told they should tackle fewer pieces of legislation, and take more time to do so properly, while dedicating more hours to review laws already passed. A review of the role of MSPs draws on in-depth interviews with 15 of them from across the party range, carried out by the Scottish Council Foundation (SCF).

The think tank did similar surveys during the parliament's first term and found some aspects of MSP life have improved, including relations between constituency and regional members.

The report's author, Frauke Sinclair, recommended more initial guidance, training and support for new MSPs, while the Presiding Officer should crack down on overt party politicking in debate.

A recurring theme of her research was that the first two sessions have seen too much legislating and not enough scanning of the political horizon from the "think pod" spaces designed into their Holyrood offices.

According to one Labour MSP: "We have been given these thinking pods, but we are never in them." Another said: "We are too wrapped up in passing new bills, and don't spend enough time reflecting how are things working, what should we do next?"

An SNP member commented: "Long-term thinking is difficult to do in the actual office, as offices are like gold fish bowls and there are constant interruptions".

Legislation and debates in the parliamentary chamber were described as deficient. "Many MSPs in our study felt that too much legislation had been passed and that its quality was variable, often because of the fast speed of bills' progress," the report found.

"This resulted in some incomplete bills which took a partial rather than a joined-up approach to issues, and legislation which required further legislation in order to work effectively."

With few MSPs having experience of Westminster work, their reflection on their political career is that it involves more disappointments than successes, and that they found they had to be thick-skinned and not easily offended. An independent MSP told researchers "there is an element of bullying that you also find in a primary school playground".

The MSPs have high opinions of much of the work carried out in committees, which is not noticed and tends to be less partisan. It is suggested there should be less turnover of committee members, to build expertise, that committees should do better at communicating what they do, and that party whips should not intervene when cross-party consensus has been achieved.

There were complaints too much attention is paid to grandstanding and party points-scoring in debates and First Minister's question time, and MSPs criticised their own party colleagues, though unattributably, for the way they play the party game.

Frauke Sinclair said: "It is possible in setting up the Scottish Parliament, Scotland has copied too much from Westminster and inherited some of its less attractive characteristics, such as the way First Minister's Questions are run.

"When the MSPs in our study commented on aspects they felt worked well, such as the relative strength of the committees and the petitions committee, it is noticeable these are matters in which the Scottish Parliament is distinct from Westminster."


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Posted by: Argentocoxus, Caledonia on 10:53pm Sun 27 May 07
Frauke Sinclair said: "It is possible in setting up the Scottish Parliament, Scotland has copied too much from Westminster and inherited some of its less attractive characteristics, such as the way First Minister's Questions are run.


Too true - even the phrase "Back benches" irritates. I can't see any benches in Holyrood.
Posted by: Argentocoxus, Caledonia on 9:39am Mon 28 May 07
Having slept on it - why not use the Scots word for "thinking pod" - sitooterie?
Posted by: Yok Finney, Ross-shire on 10:06am Mon 28 May 07
According to one Labour MSP: "We have been given these thinking pods, but we are never in them."

This comment so immediately illuminated the scottish political landscape, I've filed it my computer and written it in my diary. Thinking also needs to be applied as when my SNP played a great tactical game to win the recent election. Governing a country needs more advanced thinking, though. "Education b'****, the more they go to school, the more they have to unlearn when I employ them on my ships." - the late Captn. Gustav Ericson. I've worked commercial sea fishing so "capitalism" for me is not merely a theoretical construct but something evidenced every week. You'll never learn politics from media's "prostitutes of the pen" also known as journalists, or much history or geography from those prostitutes of the pen with professsorships called "historians". My serious suggestion to Labour MSPs is to look in Edinburgh shops and purchase a globe on a stand. Spin it round at few times and notice if any thinking has occurred. It's a start.
Posted by: Billy, Dundee on 10:37am Mon 28 May 07
Thinking pods? Thats toomy the tanker stuff. Be honest. What a load of wan**!
Posted by: Tim, Dundee on 10:39am Mon 28 May 07
Thinking pods? Thats toomy the tanker stuff. Be honest. What a load of wan**!
Posted by: Mr Stutter, D.d.d.d.dund.d.dee on 10:42am Mon 28 May 07
Thinking pods? Thats toomy the tanker stuff. Be honest. What a load of wan**!
Posted by: Argentocoxus, Caledonia on 11:00am Mon 28 May 07
Billy, Tim & Mr Stutter - "And your point is caller .... ?"
Posted by: George McDonald, Glasgow on 11:39am Mon 28 May 07
Argentocoxus wrote:
Billy, Tim & Mr Stutter - "And your point is caller .... ?"
It's the hoilday Monday......

Billy, Tim & Mr Stutter have been let out for the day.....
Posted by: David McNicol on 5:15pm Mon 28 May 07
Hmm, I think I will wander down to the local "think pod" and indulge myself in some "brain juice" ...
Posted by: John, Glasgow on 8:50pm Mon 28 May 07
This just confirms what I have suspected all along, our MSPs, all of them, are thick and the sooner we shut down Holyrood the better.

Total waste of money for a talking shop, and it also encurages people like YOk to try and convince us that the daft MSPs reside only in the labour party.

Bin Holyrood now I say.
Posted by: Yok Finney, Ross-shire on 9:07pm Mon 28 May 07
OK, John, I'll also mention the Libdem MSP for Easter Ross.
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