SNP win Glasgow East: Salmond warns no Labour seat safe
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| CELEBRATIONS: SNP councillor John Mason claims the seat for Glasgow East, overturning a Labour majority |
ROBBIE DINWOODIE,
TORCUIL CRICHTON
and CHRIS WATT
Alex Salmond said today that there were no safe Labour seats in Scotland in the wake of the SNP's victory in Glasgow East.
Mr Salmond hailed a "sensational" by-election victory for his party, with Nationalist John Mason overturning a Labour majority of 13,507.
The results would not force Prime Minister Gordon Brown into calling a General Election, Mr Salmond said.
The First Minister, speaking at a press conference at a shopping centre in the constituency, insisted that voters in Glasgow East had sent a message to Mr Brown.
He said: "That message is 'change your policy or change your job'.
"I watched Conservative Party leader David Cameron this morning. All he could think about was an imminent General Election.
"I've got bad news for David - I don't think there's going to be an imminent General Election somehow.
"What we need for the people of the country is a change of policy. We can't allow the country to drift into recession.
"We need action - action against the rising prices which are hitting family budgets, action against the energy costs, action to inject more demands into the economy.
"That's the changes that are required and that's what the SNP will be using its political influence to secure."
The First Minister said the people of Glasgow East now had an "outstanding" MP in Mr Mason.
"We have now demonstrated that there are no safe seats for the Labour Party anywhere in Scotland," he said.
Yesterday's by-election had been a "test of strength" between the Labour Government at Westminster and his Holyrood administration.
"It was London Labour that was found wanting and the SNP in Scotland that emerged victorious," said the First Minister.
He pledged that the SNP would "march to the sound of the priorities of the people of Scotland".
He continued: "If we keep doing that then we're going to take some stopping come the General Election, the Scottish elections to come and the independence referendum in 2010."
Mr Mason said that, by electing him, "the people of Glasgow East have spoken for the whole of the country".
"We have sent a message to Gordon Brown. It's time for action, time for him to listen."
The new MP called on the Prime Minister to take action to reduce the price of fuel and the cost of energy.
When asked if he would like a General Election to be called, Mr Mason said: "I think I've been elected for a purpose.
"The first purpose was to send a message to Gordon Brown. We want the Government to change direction.
"It's not about a question of who is in the Government, it's about a better behaviour on the part of the Government towards the people.
"The personal challenge for me now is to work really hard for the next 18 months or whatever it is and build up a relationship with the people of the east end."
Mr Mason went on: "They've been missing that, I would have to say, with their MP for a number of years.
"That's a new thing and I would actually like 18 months to do that."
The SNP's stunning victory in Glasgow East will now to join the likes of Govan and Hamilton in reshaping modern Scottish history.
The result hugely surpassed the expectations of even the most optimistic of nationalists, as local councillor Mr Mason overturned a Labour majority of more than 13,500.
For the duration of the short campaign, following the resignation of Labour MP David Marshall, all sides had envisaged a close contest between the front runners.
| We have now demonstrated that there are no safe seats for the Labour Party anywhere in Scotland | | Alex SAlmond |
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And following a recount called by Labour with the margin so tight, the result was declared to triumphant Nationalist supporters at just after 2.20am.
Even going into yesterday's poll, Labour and SNP organisers put the contest on a knife edge, and until mid-evening last night, that was how the received wisdom remained. But at close of polling, as all activists converged on Tollcross Leisure Centre, in the heart of the constituency, it became clear that the earthquake predicted by Mr Salmond had begun to rumble.
Local Labour MPs and councillors began to admit that the result was going against them. While returns were still coming in, one east end politician told The Herald "It's just not working for us."
At around 12.40am, the Labour candidate Margaret Curran was welcomed into the hall by fellow politicians and her campaign team, and away from the media in a corner of the main hall, she appeared to make a tearful concession of defeat.
Shortly afterwards, SNP candidate Mr Mason entered the hall to the rapturous applause of his party activists, who were by then aware that history was in the making.
In the area of the hall reserved for the count's party observers, there was little sympathy for Labour. Tory Party officials claimed that Mr Brown had received the bloody nose he had coming, while representatives of minor parties, such as the Socialists and Greens, were also pleased that Labour had lost its stranglehold on the east end of Glasgow.
Senior Labour politicians at the count had begun to admit earlier in the evening that their party now needed a whole new approach to its relationship with its former heartlands.
"We now know things have got badly out of touch," said one. "The SNP won in the aspirational areas, and we have to learn that lesson."
There was also the whole question about what the impact of such a cutting defeat would be on Mr Brown's leadership.
Speaking of his win last night, Mr Mason said: "This is a victory of epic proportions, and off the Richter Scale," adding that this was the first by-election in British history that represented a contest between two governments.
The SNP pointed out that the 24% swing came close to the shift required to take every Labour seat in Scotland.
Deputy SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon, speaking on BBC TV, said: "We're seeing a movement to the SNP of truly epic proportions"
Steven Purcell, the Labour leader of Glasgow Council, said: "The biggest issue was about the economy, but there are wider issues that we in the Labour Party have to think about. When we won in 1997, we had a powerful way of delivering that message, but more important is what the message is, and we have to look at a much more radical approach to our policy agenda.
"In the early years of this government we were radical, and we need a debate about what the next decade is going to be about."
Jim Murphy, Labour MP for Eastwood and Europe minister, told STV: "It's a bad seat to lose, but I'm confident that we can win this back at the next general election."
"Governnment is always about the future. We're talking about a fourth term. There isn't a sense of gratitude from people. It's about what you're going to do next."
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Posted by: haud me back, glasgow on 2:46am Fri 25 Jul 08
Hell scud it into Labour, they took the Eastenders for granted for years.
Hell scud it into Labour, they took the Eastenders for granted for years.
Posted by: media lies on 2:47am Fri 25 Jul 08
Superb. Brilliant result
Posted by: haud me back, glasgow on 2:48am Fri 25 Jul 08
Curran, ingratious in defeat. She vowed to fight poverty all the way from the nice cushy house in the south side.
She may as well put the John Lewis catalogue in the recycle bin, she's not going to get use of it.
Curran, ingratious in defeat. She vowed to fight poverty all the way from the nice cushy house in the south side.
She may as well put the John Lewis catalogue in the recycle bin, she's not going to get use of it.
Posted by: Joe Miles on 2:49am Fri 25 Jul 08
Good result.
Hope the next By-election is in Inverclyde
Good result.
Hope the next By-election is in Inverclyde
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 2:49am Fri 25 Jul 08
By god, Labour's Commission on More Powers for Devolution better deliver the goods!
By god, Labour's Commission on More Powers for Devolution better deliver the goods!
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 2:50am Fri 25 Jul 08
I'd just like to say I feel very depressed at the result.
D. Marshall
I'd just like to say I feel very depressed at the result.
D. Marshall
Posted by: Joe Miles on 2:50am Fri 25 Jul 08
[quote][bold]haud me back[/bold] wrote:
Curran, ingratious in defeat. She vowed to fight poverty all the way from the nice cushy house in the south side. She may as well put the John Lewis catalogue in the recycle bin, she's not going to get use of it. [/quote] Don't you like the the wee wumin in red
haud me back wrote:
Curran, ingratious in defeat. She vowed to fight poverty all the way from the nice cushy house in the south side. She may as well put the John Lewis catalogue in the recycle bin, she's not going to get use of it.
Don't you like the the wee wumin in red
Posted by: Labour Sleeze Reporter, Edinburgh on 2:51am Fri 25 Jul 08
Congratulations to John Mason. Well done to Davina Rankin as well.
Congratulations to John Mason. Well done to Davina Rankin as well.
Posted by: haud me back, glasgow on 2:52am Fri 25 Jul 08
I hope you are not claiming travel expenses to Edinburgh, you are no longer an MP
I hope you are not claiming travel expenses to Edinburgh, you are no longer an MP
Posted by: Huttcity, New Zealand on 2:52am Fri 25 Jul 08
Well done to all those who helped out on the ground - that's what wins elections.
Well done to all those who helped out on the ground - that's what wins elections.
Posted by: Ronald, Glasgow on 2:54am Fri 25 Jul 08
"We're talking about a fourth term " Yeh right ! Talking is about all you scumbags will do. Simply put ; NEW LABOUR is in its death throws, and like a filthy rabid dog , deserves to be put out of its misery.
The people throughout the Country now have a hold - an understanding - of just how right-wing, corrupt, and sleazy
the Party is, and what we have to do now is simple; ensure that Scotland becomes a NEW LABOUR free zone. Glasgow has stood up and been counted. I am proud of my fellow citizens, and how they have set the bar for others to follow !
"We're talking about a fourth term " Yeh right ! Talking is about all you scumbags will do. Simply put ; NEW LABOUR is in its death throws, and like a filthy rabid dog , deserves to be put out of its misery.
The people throughout the Country now have a hold - an understanding - of just how right-wing, corrupt, and sleazy
the Party is, and what we have to do now is simple; ensure that Scotland becomes a NEW LABOUR free zone. Glasgow has stood up and been counted. I am proud of my fellow citizens, and how they have set the bar for others to follow !
Posted by: haud me back, glasgow on 2:54am Fri 25 Jul 08
Joe Miles : If she had been doing her job properly for the nine years she has represented in Holyrood, then the Labour man would have skooshed it, but obviously she was a typical Labourite, eff the onces who would vote for them anyway. The only bad thing about her not winning is that we are still lumbered with her.
Joe Miles : If she had been doing her job properly for the nine years she has represented in Holyrood, then the Labour man would have skooshed it, but obviously she was a typical Labourite, eff the onces who would vote for them anyway. The only bad thing about her not winning is that we are still lumbered with her.
Posted by: nouveauxscum on 2:55am Fri 25 Jul 08
Easy peasy - when is Jack off to Malawi?
Easy peasy - when is Jack off to Malawi?
Posted by: Macthickey, Irvine on 2:57am Fri 25 Jul 08
SNP delivered a Marshall Plan for Scotland.
Congrats to John Mason SNP MP Glasgow East
SNP delivered a Marshall Plan for Scotland.
Congrats to John Mason SNP MP Glasgow East
Posted by: haud me back, glasgow on 2:58am Fri 25 Jul 08
when I say Labour man, I do mean man, the Labour guy who was first in line would have been up for it, instead of backpeddaling when he saw the prospect he faced. It was a poison chalise and he choose not to drink from it.
when I say Labour man, I do mean man, the Labour guy who was first in line would have been up for it, instead of backpeddaling when he saw the prospect he faced. It was a poison chalise and he choose not to drink from it.
Posted by: Jim MacDonald, Winnipeg Canada on 2:58am Fri 25 Jul 08
You don't get better news then that. Way to go Alec and the SNP.
Slainte!
You don't get better news then that. Way to go Alec and the SNP.
Slainte!
Posted by: Vivas, Embra on 2:59am Fri 25 Jul 08
[quote][bold]haud me back[/bold] wrote:
Joe Miles : If she had been doing her job properly for the nine years she has represented in Holyrood, then the Labour man would have skooshed it, but obviously she was a typical Labourite, eff the onces who would vote for them anyway. The only bad thing about her not winning is that we are still lumbered with her.[/quote] Damaged though. No chance of her leading SLAB at Holyrood now.
I bet you Wendy was laughing her head off at the moment of Currans humiliation. !
haud me back wrote:
Joe Miles : If she had been doing her job properly for the nine years she has represented in Holyrood, then the Labour man would have skooshed it, but obviously she was a typical Labourite, eff the onces who would vote for them anyway. The only bad thing about her not winning is that we are still lumbered with her.
Damaged though. No chance of her leading SLAB at Holyrood now.
I bet you Wendy was laughing her head off at the moment of Currans humiliation. !
Posted by: indyleith, edinburgh on 2:59am Fri 25 Jul 08
The wee best calman review in the world had better get its skates on.
Scotland Expects ... INDEPENDENCE will do nicely.
The wee best calman review in the world had better get its skates on.
Scotland Expects ... INDEPENDENCE will do nicely.
Posted by: haud me back, glasgow on 3:00am Fri 25 Jul 08
Dodgy spelling now, too much champers!!...and so to bed.
Dodgy spelling now, too much champers!!...and so to bed.
Posted by: nouveauxscum on 3:01am Fri 25 Jul 08
[bold]"We now know things have got badly out of touch," said one. "The SNP won in the aspirational areas, and we have to learn that lesson."[/bold]
Speaks volumes about New Labour.
"We now know things have got badly out of touch," said one. "The SNP won in the aspirational areas, and we have to learn that lesson."
Speaks volumes about New Labour.
Posted by: Rev. S. Campbell, Bath on 3:02am Fri 25 Jul 08
OMFG.
I can't WAIT to hear AM2, Kimba, Baffled, Dane Bramage, Grahamski and all the other Union Jock drones give us their thoughtful and considered view on this one.
OMFG.
I can't WAIT to hear AM2, Kimba, Baffled, Dane Bramage, Grahamski and all the other Union Jock drones give us their thoughtful and considered view on this one.
Posted by: paisleyman, paisley on 3:02am Fri 25 Jul 08
It has to be said that John Mason wasn't a great candidate, but this marks a sea change in Scottish voting patterns and the lesson of history is that there will come a tipping point in any great debate - this surely is it.
People like me - lifelong Labour voters - have had it with the mendacity, sleaze and the utter pillaging of democracy that these peolple have displayed. Iraq was the last straw and seeing that utter coward Brown behind a machine gun was the last sickening vestage of the New Labour Raj.
It has to be said that John Mason wasn't a great candidate, but this marks a sea change in Scottish voting patterns and the lesson of history is that there will come a tipping point in any great debate - this surely is it.
People like me - lifelong Labour voters - have had it with the mendacity, sleaze and the utter pillaging of democracy that these peolple have displayed. Iraq was the last straw and seeing that utter coward Brown behind a machine gun was the last sickening vestage of the New Labour Raj.
Posted by: Joe Miles on 3:03am Fri 25 Jul 08
haud me back, glasgow…. I have an advantage over you I don’t have to watch or listen to her as I don’t have a television.
haud me back, glasgow…. I have an advantage over you I don’t have to watch or listen to her as I don’t have a television.
Posted by: Scunnert, Travelling in Nihlon on 3:04am Fri 25 Jul 08
I was admonished on another thread not to crow when I commented that labour were going to get their erse well and truly skelpt. So I will be more restrained on this thread.
As Huttcity, New Zealand on 2:52am today wrote:
[quote]Well done to all those who helped out on the ground - that's what wins elections.[/quote]
He is absolutely correct. What wins elections is activists on the ground. The SNP had folks driving in from all over the country to get the nations message out. No other party showed that level of commitment. This result was close - but it could never have been different.
I was admonished on another thread not to crow when I commented that labour were going to get their erse well and truly skelpt. So I will be more restrained on this thread.
As Huttcity, New Zealand on 2:52am today wrote:
Well done to all those who helped out on the ground - that's what wins elections.
He is absolutely correct. What wins elections is activists on the ground. The SNP had folks driving in from all over the country to get the nations message out. No other party showed that level of commitment. This result was close - but it could never have been different.
Posted by: nouveauxscum on 3:05am Fri 25 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Vivas[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]haud me back[/bold] wrote: Joe Miles : If she had been doing her job properly for the nine years she has represented in Holyrood, then the Labour man would have skooshed it, but obviously she was a typical Labourite, eff the onces who would vote for them anyway. The only bad thing about her not winning is that we are still lumbered with her.[/quote] Damaged though. No chance of her leading SLAB at Holyrood now. I bet you Wendy was laughing her head off at the moment of Currans humiliation. ! [/quote] Oh lol. Vivas.. kinda leaves us with the burlesque option of Kerr or Big Jackie . lol
Vivas wrote:
haud me back wrote: Joe Miles : If she had been doing her job properly for the nine years she has represented in Holyrood, then the Labour man would have skooshed it, but obviously she was a typical Labourite, eff the onces who would vote for them anyway. The only bad thing about her not winning is that we are still lumbered with her.
Damaged though. No chance of her leading SLAB at Holyrood now. I bet you Wendy was laughing her head off at the moment of Currans humiliation. !
Oh lol. Vivas.. kinda leaves us with the burlesque option of Kerr or Big Jackie . lol
Posted by: haud me back, glasgow on 3:05am Fri 25 Jul 08
she was not a pretty sight, anyone without a fireguard could put her picture on the fireplace, it will keep the weans away from the fire.
she was not a pretty sight, anyone without a fireguard could put her picture on the fireplace, it will keep the weans away from the fire.
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 3:06am Fri 25 Jul 08
[bold]
EARTHQUAKE CONFIRMATION?[/bold]
Posted by: Alan Hogg, Ayr on 3:06am Fri 25 Jul 08
Well done everyone who was there working.Fabulous result!!
Well done everyone who was there working.Fabulous result!!
Posted by: haud me back, glasgow on 3:06am Fri 25 Jul 08
go ahead Jackie...make my night
go ahead Jackie...make my night
Posted by: indyleith, edinburgh on 3:06am Fri 25 Jul 08
Seriously, well done to all those activists who leafleted, canvassed and generally worked their butts off in Glasgow East. Well worth the effort and the people responded and HOW.!
Still in shock, just used to seeing Glasgow vote Liebour time and again. Very very proud of Glasgow and Scotland. The country has began turning its back on Liebour at last.
Their ungracious defeat summed them up. Glad Glasgow and Scotland witnessed their bitter hatred at being booted out. Their grip on Scotland has loosened big time.
Seriously, well done to all those activists who leafleted, canvassed and generally worked their butts off in Glasgow East. Well worth the effort and the people responded and HOW.!
Still in shock, just used to seeing Glasgow vote Liebour time and again. Very very proud of Glasgow and Scotland. The country has began turning its back on Liebour at last.
Their ungracious defeat summed them up. Glad Glasgow and Scotland witnessed their bitter hatred at being booted out. Their grip on Scotland has loosened big time.
Posted by: Vivas, Embra on 3:07am Fri 25 Jul 08
The Labour language is revealing, all saying the same thing. We will learn the lesson..reflect...ge
t our message across better and so on. They truly are taking a lead from Toom Tabbard and are prevaricating to the Nth degree. They have 2 years left. If they are to do anything, it has to be soon and it has to be radical. Under Brown though, there is no chance of that kind of rapid response. They're in a deep deep trance and before they know it, it'll be 2010 and they'll be OUT.
The Labour language is revealing, all saying the same thing. We will learn the lesson..reflect...ge
t our message across better and so on. They truly are taking a lead from Toom Tabbard and are prevaricating to the Nth degree. They have 2 years left. If they are to do anything, it has to be soon and it has to be radical. Under Brown though, there is no chance of that kind of rapid response. They're in a deep deep trance and before they know it, it'll be 2010 and they'll be OUT.
Posted by: Joe Miles on 3:07am Fri 25 Jul 08
[quote][bold]paisleyman[/bold] wrote:
It has to be said that John Mason wasn't a great candidate, but this marks a sea change in Scottish voting patterns and the lesson of history is that there will come a tipping point in any great debate - this surely is it. People like me - lifelong Labour voters - have had it with the mendacity, sleaze and the utter pillaging of democracy that these peolple have displayed. Iraq was the last straw and seeing that utter coward Brown behind a machine gun was the last sickening vestage of the New Labour Raj. [/quote] Another vote for the S.N.P I hope
paisleyman wrote:
It has to be said that John Mason wasn't a great candidate, but this marks a sea change in Scottish voting patterns and the lesson of history is that there will come a tipping point in any great debate - this surely is it. People like me - lifelong Labour voters - have had it with the mendacity, sleaze and the utter pillaging of democracy that these peolple have displayed. Iraq was the last straw and seeing that utter coward Brown behind a machine gun was the last sickening vestage of the New Labour Raj.
Another vote for the S.N.P I hope
Posted by: Alan Wishart, Glasgow on 3:07am Fri 25 Jul 08
Labour politicians on the TV are saying that the seat will be won back.. just a temporary setback.. etc ..
They just don't seem to get it yet.
This is not just a protest vote - many voters were saying they have had enough of labour - especially when they see everything that the SNP government in Edinburgh has achieved in just 1 year..
This is another step towards a full strength Scottish government with even more power to improve Scotland.
Labour politicians on the TV are saying that the seat will be won back.. just a temporary setback.. etc ..
They just don't seem to get it yet.
This is not just a protest vote - many voters were saying they have had enough of labour - especially when they see everything that the SNP government in Edinburgh has achieved in just 1 year..
This is another step towards a full strength Scottish government with even more power to improve Scotland.
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 3:08am Fri 25 Jul 08
[italic]How fantastic to see the SNP up on the same BBC News Homepage as Barack Obama.....[/italic]
[bold]These are great days
[/bold]
How fantastic to see the SNP up on the same BBC News Homepage as Barack Obama.....
These are great days
Posted by: ptdoug, IOM on 3:08am Fri 25 Jul 08
THE TIMES
Angus Macleod, Scottish Political Editor
No-one can possibly underestimate the scale of the disaster which hit Gordon Brown and the Labour Party in the Glasgow East constituency in the early hours of this morning.
Here was a seat which has been a fortress for Labour in Scotland where Labour did not so much count their votes as weigh them. And yet, they saw their 13,507 majority overturned by a triumphant Scottish National Party (SNP).
The shock of this result casts another huge pall of gloom over the Prime Minister as he goes on his annual holiday. It raises massive questions about his continued leadership of the Labour Party.
Backbench MPs will have to face the fact that the Glasgow East result, after a similar by-election disaster in Crewe and Nantwich in May, makes Mr Brown look like very damaged goods as their leader. They must now ask themselves if they can possibly win a general election under Mr Brown and the Prime Minister’s Cabinet colleagues will no doubt be asking the same question.
The major concerns for many households in one of the most deprived areas of Britain were the rising cost of fuel and food, the ongoing rate of street crime and the whole issue of law and order generally. But voters were obviously angry at the non-appearance of Mr Brown in the constituency during the by-election. Labour also suffered from the refusal of their first choice candidate to accept the nomination and that Margaret Curran was a 4th choice.
Mrs Curran fought a focused and largely sure-footed campaign, and still Labour lost with thousands of previously rock-solid, loyal voters turning their back on the party that their families have supported for generations and administering the political equivalent of a mugging.
Alex Salmond, the SNP leader and Scottish First Minister, had promised a political earthquake in this by-election and he delivered, although some might say this was a tsunami rather than a mere earthquake. They will conclude that in Scotland there are very few Labour seats safe from their incursions. By taking Labour’s third safest seat in Scotland, they have proved that last year’s win in the Scottish Parliament elections was no one-day wonder and that they are now Scotland’s leading party while Labour in Scotland goes into freefall.
THE TIMES
Angus Macleod, Scottish Political Editor
No-one can possibly underestimate the scale of the disaster which hit Gordon Brown and the Labour Party in the Glasgow East constituency in the early hours of this morning.
Here was a seat which has been a fortress for Labour in Scotland where Labour did not so much count their votes as weigh them. And yet, they saw their 13,507 majority overturned by a triumphant Scottish National Party (SNP).
The shock of this result casts another huge pall of gloom over the Prime Minister as he goes on his annual holiday. It raises massive questions about his continued leadership of the Labour Party.
Backbench MPs will have to face the fact that the Glasgow East result, after a similar by-election disaster in Crewe and Nantwich in May, makes Mr Brown look like very damaged goods as their leader. They must now ask themselves if they can possibly win a general election under Mr Brown and the Prime Minister’s Cabinet colleagues will no doubt be asking the same question.
The major concerns for many households in one of the most deprived areas of Britain were the rising cost of fuel and food, the ongoing rate of street crime and the whole issue of law and order generally. But voters were obviously angry at the non-appearance of Mr Brown in the constituency during the by-election. Labour also suffered from the refusal of their first choice candidate to accept the nomination and that Margaret Curran was a 4th choice.
Mrs Curran fought a focused and largely sure-footed campaign, and still Labour lost with thousands of previously rock-solid, loyal voters turning their back on the party that their families have supported for generations and administering the political equivalent of a mugging.
Alex Salmond, the SNP leader and Scottish First Minister, had promised a political earthquake in this by-election and he delivered, although some might say this was a tsunami rather than a mere earthquake. They will conclude that in Scotland there are very few Labour seats safe from their incursions. By taking Labour’s third safest seat in Scotland, they have proved that last year’s win in the Scottish Parliament elections was no one-day wonder and that they are now Scotland’s leading party while Labour in Scotland goes into freefall.
Posted by: Vivas, Embra on 3:08am Fri 25 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Wardog[/bold] wrote:
[bold]
EARTHQUAKE CONFIRMATION?[/bold] [/quote] Windows still rattling big-time here in Embra east :-)
Wardog wrote:
EARTHQUAKE CONFIRMATION?
Windows still rattling big-time here in Embra east :-)
Posted by: Ronald, Glasgow on 3:09am Fri 25 Jul 08
Now Rev Cambell, don't mock the aflicted !! The Lord after all loves the sinner, whilst condeming his sins .
Yes I know; the NEW LABOUR CYBERPIMPS are a repugnant, repulsive bunch of degenerates who, make it hard for one to have
any vestigases of sympathy for, but hell, you are a vicar after all !!
Now Rev Cambell, don't mock the aflicted !! The Lord after all loves the sinner, whilst condeming his sins .
Yes I know; the NEW LABOUR CYBERPIMPS are a repugnant, repulsive bunch of degenerates who, make it hard for one to have
any vestigases of sympathy for, but hell, you are a vicar after all !!
Posted by: Scunnert, Travelling in Nihlon on 3:09am Fri 25 Jul 08
It suits today the meek and base
Whose minds are fixed on self and place
To cringe beneath daft Gordon's frown
And haul our sacred emblem down.
But we'll raise Scotland's standard high
Beneath its folds we'll live and die
Tho' cowards flinch and traitors sneer
We'll keep the Scots flag flying here
It suits today the meek and base
Whose minds are fixed on self and place
To cringe beneath daft Gordon's frown
And haul our sacred emblem down.
But we'll raise Scotland's standard high
Beneath its folds we'll live and die
Tho' cowards flinch and traitors sneer
We'll keep the Scots flag flying here
Posted by: Andrew BOD, Aberdeen on 3:09am Fri 25 Jul 08
Congratulations John Mason, and well done to all the SNP activists who put in a huge effort to secure victory.
This is only a small battle, as Glasgow East's new MP has got to show he can fight on behalf of his constituents and make a real difference where Labour have not. The real test will be a General Election which could arrive in less than two years.
And this is not a flash in the pan. There's hardly a week goes by where I don't talk to a ex-Labour voter who now supports the SNP, so John Mason is right to say Labour MPs across Scotland should be quaking in their boots. There is a real wind of change blowing across our country, and it started long before the current economic downturn.
Congratulations John Mason, and well done to all the SNP activists who put in a huge effort to secure victory.
This is only a small battle, as Glasgow East's new MP has got to show he can fight on behalf of his constituents and make a real difference where Labour have not. The real test will be a General Election which could arrive in less than two years.
And this is not a flash in the pan. There's hardly a week goes by where I don't talk to a ex-Labour voter who now supports the SNP, so John Mason is right to say Labour MPs across Scotland should be quaking in their boots. There is a real wind of change blowing across our country, and it started long before the current economic downturn.
Posted by: paisleyman, paisley on 3:10am Fri 25 Jul 08
Joe Miles
Yes, and the sooner the better!!
Joe Miles
Yes, and the sooner the better!!
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 3:10am Fri 25 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Vivas[/bold] wrote:
The Labour language is revealing, all saying the same thing. We will learn the lesson..reflect...ge
t our message across better and so on. They truly are taking a lead from Toom Tabbard and are prevaricating to the Nth degree. They have 2 years left. If they are to do anything, it has to be soon and it has to be radical. Under Brown though, there is no chance of that kind of rapid response. They're in a deep deep trance and before they know it, it'll be 2010 and they'll be OUT.[/quote]
JIm Murphy spent all night on STV denying that Labour needed to change
Dougie Alexander seems to say the same in his parting shot.
Labour head in the sand.
Brown's clobbered, if he changes policy he's succumb to SNP pressure, if he doesn't he'll get battered in Scotland come 2010.
Vivas wrote:
The Labour language is revealing, all saying the same thing. We will learn the lesson..reflect...ge
t our message across better and so on. They truly are taking a lead from Toom Tabbard and are prevaricating to the Nth degree. They have 2 years left. If they are to do anything, it has to be soon and it has to be radical. Under Brown though, there is no chance of that kind of rapid response. They're in a deep deep trance and before they know it, it'll be 2010 and they'll be OUT.
JIm Murphy spent all night on STV denying that Labour needed to change
Dougie Alexander seems to say the same in his parting shot.
Labour head in the sand.
Brown's clobbered, if he changes policy he's succumb to SNP pressure, if he doesn't he'll get battered in Scotland come 2010.
Posted by: Christina de Kéroualle, Aberdeen on 3:10am Fri 25 Jul 08
This was no ordinary Labour candidate that lost here.
Margaret Curran.
Ex-Executive Minister and Labour leadership hopeful.
If Labour can't hold on in their third safest seat with their best candidate what can they hold on to?
This was no ordinary Labour candidate that lost here.
Margaret Curran.
Ex-Executive Minister and Labour leadership hopeful.
If Labour can't hold on in their third safest seat with their best candidate what can they hold on to?
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 3:12am Fri 25 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Andrew BOD[/bold] wrote:
Congratulations John Mason, and well done to all the SNP activists who put in a huge effort to secure victory.
This is only a small battle, as Glasgow East's new MP has got to show he can fight on behalf of his constituents and make a real difference where Labour have not. The real test will be a General Election which could arrive in less than two years.
And this is not a flash in the pan. There's hardly a week goes by where I don't talk to a ex-Labour voter who now supports the SNP, so John Mason is right to say Labour MPs across Scotland should be quaking in their boots. There is a real wind of change blowing across our country, and it started long before the current economic downturn.[/quote]
The Scottish Govenrment needs to make it known in Glasgow what they are delivering, Purcell (as much as I respect him) will try every trick in the book to dimish the SNP's achievement.
Purcell has already went against P1-3 class-size cuts and LIT.
He should take a message from thsi election
Andrew BOD wrote:
Congratulations John Mason, and well done to all the SNP activists who put in a huge effort to secure victory.
This is only a small battle, as Glasgow East's new MP has got to show he can fight on behalf of his constituents and make a real difference where Labour have not. The real test will be a General Election which could arrive in less than two years.
And this is not a flash in the pan. There's hardly a week goes by where I don't talk to a ex-Labour voter who now supports the SNP, so John Mason is right to say Labour MPs across Scotland should be quaking in their boots. There is a real wind of change blowing across our country, and it started long before the current economic downturn.
The Scottish Govenrment needs to make it known in Glasgow what they are delivering, Purcell (as much as I respect him) will try every trick in the book to dimish the SNP's achievement.
Purcell has already went against P1-3 class-size cuts and LIT.
He should take a message from thsi election
Posted by: ptdoug, IOM on 3:13am Fri 25 Jul 08
And let's not forget the people that made this happen.... The people of Glasgow East.
Thank you and well done!!!
And let's not forget the people that made this happen.... The people of Glasgow East.
Thank you and well done!!!
Posted by: bluenose, Glasgow on 3:13am Fri 25 Jul 08
Well done john Mason , well done the SNP , well done, the voters of Glasgow East .
I don't expect there will be many Unionistas about to spin this into a great result for the Union , or how we are all doomed .
I read lots over the last few weeks on here and the North Brit but chose to say very little .
I read all those desperate Labour trolls talking about the bookies odds and being so typically arrogant and forecasting the end of the SNP .
Even listening to Curran's losers speech , and Murphy on STV or Douglas Alexander on EBC, aall they could say was how sorry they were for the Labour Party , and how they would win it back at the GE in 2010 .
It would have suited them better to have apologised to the people of Glasgow East and the rest of Scotland for letting them down for over 50years .
Apologised for taking their voters for granted ,for abusing the power and trust the people placed in them , especially after the Thatcher years .
But now as in last year's result their heads are firmly in the sand , thinking only of themselves and their party not the people they are meant to serve .
Till they remember the people are sovereign , not Westminster , not The Labour Party they are going nowhere but down .
they continue to say "its our presentation ,, its the media , its the global economy, in fact it is everybody elses fault no Labours!!!
as that popular football song begins
"Now you going to believe us??"
ITS TIME!!!
Well done john Mason , well done the SNP , well done, the voters of Glasgow East .
I don't expect there will be many Unionistas about to spin this into a great result for the Union , or how we are all doomed .
I read lots over the last few weeks on here and the North Brit but chose to say very little .
I read all those desperate Labour trolls talking about the bookies odds and being so typically arrogant and forecasting the end of the SNP .
Even listening to Curran's losers speech , and Murphy on STV or Douglas Alexander on EBC, aall they could say was how sorry they were for the Labour Party , and how they would win it back at the GE in 2010 .
It would have suited them better to have apologised to the people of Glasgow East and the rest of Scotland for letting them down for over 50years .
Apologised for taking their voters for granted ,for abusing the power and trust the people placed in them , especially after the Thatcher years .
But now as in last year's result their heads are firmly in the sand , thinking only of themselves and their party not the people they are meant to serve .
Till they remember the people are sovereign , not Westminster , not The Labour Party they are going nowhere but down .
they continue to say "its our presentation ,, its the media , its the global economy, in fact it is everybody elses fault no Labours!!!
as that popular football song begins
"Now you going to believe us??"
ITS TIME!!!
Posted by: stonehaven on 3:14am Fri 25 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Los Angeles[/bold] wrote:
I'd just like to say I feel very depressed at the result.
D. Marshall
[/quote] LA
I told you we would win. Not by my forecast 2,500 but what the hell !
A £1,000 bet will net a good return. Party anyone?
Los Angeles wrote:
I'd just like to say I feel very depressed at the result.
D. Marshall
LA
I told you we would win. Not by my forecast 2,500 but what the hell !
A £1,000 bet will net a good return. Party anyone?
Posted by: james, dundee on 3:14am Fri 25 Jul 08
The change is one for the better. Well done John Mason.
The SNP will represent the people of the East End and the people of Scotland, unlike the SLAB who represent themselves.
Too long have they taken the people for granted, and their erse is now officially oot the windae.
The change is one for the better. Well done John Mason.
The SNP will represent the people of the East End and the people of Scotland, unlike the SLAB who represent themselves.
Too long have they taken the people for granted, and their erse is now officially oot the windae.
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 3:14am Fri 25 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Christina de Kéroualle[/bold] wrote:
This was no ordinary Labour candidate that lost here.
Margaret Curran.
Ex-Executive Minister and Labour leadership hopeful.
If Labour can't hold on in their third safest seat with their best candidate what can they hold on to?[/quote] Labour leadership no-more me thinks
This is catastrophic or Labour, and it;s meltdown for Labour in Scotland
Frank MacVeety was claiming the victory was 'minor' earlier on.
How arrogant is that?
Christina de Kéroualle wrote:
This was no ordinary Labour candidate that lost here.
Margaret Curran.
Ex-Executive Minister and Labour leadership hopeful.
If Labour can't hold on in their third safest seat with their best candidate what can they hold on to?
Labour leadership no-more me thinks
This is catastrophic or Labour, and it;s meltdown for Labour in Scotland
Frank MacVeety was claiming the victory was 'minor' earlier on.
How arrogant is that?
Posted by: Vivas, Embra on 3:14am Fri 25 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Alan Wishart[/bold] wrote:
Labour politicians on the TV are saying that the seat will be won back.. just a temporary setback.. etc ..
They just don't seem to get it yet.
This is not just a protest vote - many voters were saying they have had enough of labour - especially when they see everything that the SNP government in Edinburgh has achieved in just 1 year..
This is another step towards a full strength Scottish government with even more power to improve Scotland.
[/quote] I'm glad they see it that way. The complacency is ingrained.."we always get it back".
In 2010 they won't have enough Scotland-wide activists left to make a cup of coffee. The war, the economy, their rightwards policy drift, Brown ... will demoralise them absolutely.. They won't be able to bus in English activists then, they'll be to busy saving their own skins down south. The SNP will be out in massive force, with a strong and postive message on the ground.
Things just moved up a gear tonight :-)
Alan Wishart wrote:
Labour politicians on the TV are saying that the seat will be won back.. just a temporary setback.. etc ..
They just don't seem to get it yet.
This is not just a protest vote - many voters were saying they have had enough of labour - especially when they see everything that the SNP government in Edinburgh has achieved in just 1 year..
This is another step towards a full strength Scottish government with even more power to improve Scotland.
I'm glad they see it that way. The complacency is ingrained.."we always get it back".
In 2010 they won't have enough Scotland-wide activists left to make a cup of coffee. The war, the economy, their rightwards policy drift, Brown ... will demoralise them absolutely.. They won't be able to bus in English activists then, they'll be to busy saving their own skins down south. The SNP will be out in massive force, with a strong and postive message on the ground.
Things just moved up a gear tonight :-)
Posted by: wisnaeme, Sent to Coventry on 3:16am Fri 25 Jul 08
Aye, well done SNP.
... and later today ah'll be reminding some folk of their platitudes that
"Lessons have to be learnt".
Apparently there is to be a meeting of some "lessons to be learnt" apologists with some folk who have yet to comprehend that they have lessons to learn.
...and held less than four miles away from myself.
Just to venture an opinion, you'll understand and myself to be in no way appearing to be a smug b@stard rubbing it in. Weel maybe aye.
.
Aye, well done SNP.
... and later today ah'll be reminding some folk of their platitudes that
"Lessons have to be learnt".
Apparently there is to be a meeting of some "lessons to be learnt" apologists with some folk who have yet to comprehend that they have lessons to learn.
...and held less than four miles away from myself.
Just to venture an opinion, you'll understand and myself to be in no way appearing to be a smug b@stard rubbing it in. Weel maybe aye.
.
Posted by: Christina de Kéroualle, Aberdeen on 3:16am Fri 25 Jul 08
I bet Wendy Alexander is opening the champagne. ;-)
Curran was no friend of hers, having described her leadership as "shocking"
I bet Wendy Alexander is opening the champagne. ;-)
Curran was no friend of hers, having described her leadership as "shocking"
Posted by: stonehaven on 3:17am Fri 25 Jul 08
[quote][bold]paisleyman[/bold] wrote:
It has to be said that John Mason wasn't a great candidate, but this marks a sea change in Scottish voting patterns and the lesson of history is that there will come a tipping point in any great debate - this surely is it.
People like me - lifelong Labour voters - have had it with the mendacity, sleaze and the utter pillaging of democracy that these peolple have displayed. Iraq was the last straw and seeing that utter coward Brown behind a machine gun was the last sickening vestage of the New Labour Raj.
[/quote] Maybe not a great candidate, but Mason will be a fantastic MP.
paisleyman wrote:
It has to be said that John Mason wasn't a great candidate, but this marks a sea change in Scottish voting patterns and the lesson of history is that there will come a tipping point in any great debate - this surely is it.
People like me - lifelong Labour voters - have had it with the mendacity, sleaze and the utter pillaging of democracy that these peolple have displayed. Iraq was the last straw and seeing that utter coward Brown behind a machine gun was the last sickening vestage of the New Labour Raj.
Maybe not a great candidate, but Mason will be a fantastic MP.
Posted by: Conan the Librarian™, Edinburgh on 3:17am Fri 25 Jul 08
stonehaven on 3:14
A Scottish National Party:-)
stonehaven on 3:14
A Scottish National Party:-)
Posted by: Seannair, Oban on 3:19am Fri 25 Jul 08
Magrit is everybody's "worst auntie," Predictably ingracious in defeat as we would expect but now surely dead in the water as leaderine of Scottish New Labour. Imagine Ian Gray.... imagine!!!!!
See how many Slabour greats were absent at the count - Jackie Baillie, Lord Foulkes, Wendy, Lord Haw Haw, Ian Gray, Cathy Jamieson - dear oh dear. Was "Baffled" or AM2 present?
Well done John Mason. You resemble the late great Bud Neill in appearance although it must be said he was more entertaining but you fought an honest and straight campaign and your integrity shone through. You now must serve Scotland's cause in that Palace of Varieties called Westminster but you are only there until we take real control up here. Good to see Alex Salmond with his sonsy grin that so annoys the Slabourites.
Magrit is everybody's "worst auntie," Predictably ingracious in defeat as we would expect but now surely dead in the water as leaderine of Scottish New Labour. Imagine Ian Gray.... imagine!!!!!
See how many Slabour greats were absent at the count - Jackie Baillie, Lord Foulkes, Wendy, Lord Haw Haw, Ian Gray, Cathy Jamieson - dear oh dear. Was "Baffled" or AM2 present?
Well done John Mason. You resemble the late great Bud Neill in appearance although it must be said he was more entertaining but you fought an honest and straight campaign and your integrity shone through. You now must serve Scotland's cause in that Palace of Varieties called Westminster but you are only there until we take real control up here. Good to see Alex Salmond with his sonsy grin that so annoys the Slabourites.
Posted by: girfut, thebigisland on 3:21am Fri 25 Jul 08
The SUN
BROWN`S GLASGOW KISS!
SCOTCHA !!
The SUN
BROWN`S GLASGOW KISS!
SCOTCHA !!
Posted by: Alex Brodie, Edinburgh on 3:21am Fri 25 Jul 08
It's not nice to gloat over Labour's collapse. Oh, what the hell! Let's gloat!
It's not nice to gloat over Labour's collapse. Oh, what the hell! Let's gloat!
Posted by: stonehaven on 3:22am Fri 25 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Christina de Kéroualle[/bold] wrote:
This was no ordinary Labour candidate that lost here.
Margaret Curran.
Ex-Executive Minister and Labour leadership hopeful.
If Labour can't hold on in their third safest seat with their best candidate what can they hold on to?[/quote] Having said that Christina, she was in fact very ordinary !
Christina de Kéroualle wrote:
This was no ordinary Labour candidate that lost here.
Margaret Curran.
Ex-Executive Minister and Labour leadership hopeful.
If Labour can't hold on in their third safest seat with their best candidate what can they hold on to?
Having said that Christina, she was in fact very ordinary !
Posted by: Traquir, Alba on 3:23am Fri 25 Jul 08
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Congratulations to John Mason for this stunning victory.
Many Thanks to all in the SNP and especially the Cybernats
who helped to swell the ranks of the activists on the ground and
provided heart felt passionate to make this happen.
The power of the new media (e.g. blogging & youtube)
is now proven to be a force to be reckoned with and the old
media no longer has a free rein.
Most of all many many thanks to the good people of Glasgow
East for having the courage to stand up and break from the
Labour mold in which they have been held prisoner for way too
long.
As I savour a nice Caol Isla to celebrate little can be
sweeter than this triumph apart of course from the
eventual freedom of our Scottish nation which is
now closer than ever.
Slàinte mhor a h-uile là a chi 's nach fhaic
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Congratulations to John Mason for this stunning victory.
Many Thanks to all in the SNP and especially the Cybernats
who helped to swell the ranks of the activists on the ground and
provided heart felt passionate to make this happen.
The power of the new media (e.g. blogging & youtube)
is now proven to be a force to be reckoned with and the old
media no longer has a free rein.
Most of all many many thanks to the good people of Glasgow
East for having the courage to stand up and break from the
Labour mold in which they have been held prisoner for way too
long.
As I savour a nice Caol Isla to celebrate little can be
sweeter than this triumph apart of course from the
eventual freedom of our Scottish nation which is
now closer than ever.
Slàinte mhor a h-uile là a chi 's nach fhaic
Posted by: stonehaven on 3:23am Fri 25 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Wardog[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold