Europe’s biggest wind farm to be built in Scotland
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Scotland yesterday staked its claim as Europe's green energy powerhouse as ministers approved plans for the continent's biggest onshore wind farm.
First Minister Alex Salmond said the £600m Clyde project - which will be capable of generating twice as much power as the current record holder in Spain - marked a "significant milestone" in meeting the nation's ambitious renewables targets. The development will see 152 turbines straddle hillsides on either side of the M74 motorway in South Lanarkshire by 2011, the year Mr Salmond and his government has vowed to see 31% of Scottish electricity demand met from green sources.
Mr Salmond said: "The Clyde wind farm will represent a very important step in the development of renewable energy in Scotland and in meeting shared European targets. It is another step towards making Scotland the green energy capital of Europe."
The announcement comes just days after Mr Salmond unveiled plans for a £100m biomass plant in Fife, the biggest of its kind in Britain, but follows a government decision to reject plans for an even bigger and more controversial wind farm, on the island of Lewis.
The new development will create some 200 jobs during its three-year construction phase near the villages of Abington, Crawford and Elvanfoot. It will be able to power 320,000 homes - but only when the wind blows at the right speed for it to reach its full capacity of 548 megawatts.
Mr Salmond's government is now very close to meeting its 2011 target. The installed capacity of renewable energy plants which have been approved, built or are under construction has topped 4.5 gigawatts, just short of the 5 gigawatts needed within three years to reach the target.
Scottish Government officials are currently reviewing another 36 applications for renewable energy developments, including 26 wind farms, nine hydro projects and a tidal power station.
Together they represent potential installed capacity of 2.5 gigawatts, raising hopes for an even more ambitious aim, of making half the nation's power from green sources by 2020. Mr Salmond, who was speaking before the World Renewable Energy Congress in Glasgow, said: "This announcement makes it virtually certain that the 2011 target will be met early and exceeded by the end of this parliamentary term and represents a significant milestone on the way to achieving the 2020 target. Scotland has a clear, competitive advantage in developing clean, green energy sources such as wind, wave and tidal power."
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Posted by: Wilhelm on 10:38pm Mon 21 Jul 08
Didnt we have this story yesterday.
Do all Herald journalists suffer from alzheimers ?
Didnt we have this story yesterday.
Do all Herald journalists suffer from alzheimers ?
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 10:41pm Mon 21 Jul 08
[bold]More Great News for Scotland, keep em' coming Alec[/bold]
More Great News for Scotland, keep em' coming Alec
Posted by: Steve A, Independence is on its way on 10:53pm Mon 21 Jul 08
With the snp in government Scotland will stay ahead of the game with Scotland's energy needs. So much so that we can fully expect to be an net exporter of energy thus creating huge economic benefit for all the people of Scotland .
Gordon Brown you can stick your nuclear plants and missiles where the sun dont shine!
With the snp in government Scotland will stay ahead of the game with Scotland's energy needs. So much so that we can fully expect to be an net exporter of energy thus creating huge economic benefit for all the people of Scotland .
Gordon Brown you can stick your nuclear plants and missiles where the sun dont shine!
Posted by: george alexander, north lanarkshire on 10:58pm Mon 21 Jul 08
Apologies for being off topic:
In anticipation of another LIT story, I took a look at the number of LIT stories that have featured in either The Herald or The Scotsman/SOS in the last week or so.
In total (the ones that I could find) there have been eleven separate stories given over to this one policy. This [bold]doesn’t[/bold] include the BBC coverage on either the web, radio or TV.
Has any other story featured so prominently in this by-election?
Oh, see if you can find the one headline that isn't anti SNP, yes there is one out of the eleven .............. balance, Scottish media style.
[bold][italic]The Scotsman[/[/italic] bold]
[bold]Local income tax doesn't add up, say experts[/bold]
13 july
[bold]Financial experts tell SNP: Local income tax won't work[/bold]
14 July 2008
[bold]Swinney vows to press ahead with local income tax plan[/bold]
18 July
[bold]Ministers urged to dump local income tax[/bold]
18 July
[bold]Swinney's local tax in trouble[/bold]
19 July
[bold]Labour sparks local tax row over soldiers[/bold]
20 July
[bold]Liberal Democrats offer SNP a chink of light on beleaguered local income tax[/bold]
21 July
[bold]Local tax 'worse than poll tax' to Scots service personnel[/bold]
21 July
[italic][bold]The Herald[/bold] [/italic]
[bold]Plans for local income tax are unworkable, claim accountants[/bold]
14 July
[bold]Business group warns of pitfalls of local income tax[/bold]
19 July
[bold]SNP local income tax blow as experts PwC criticise plan[/bold]
21 july
[bold]REMEMBER, PLEASE KEEP IGNORING THE TROLLS !![/bold]
Apologies for being off topic:
In anticipation of another LIT story, I took a look at the number of LIT stories that have featured in either The Herald or The Scotsman/SOS in the last week or so.
In total (the ones that I could find) there have been eleven separate stories given over to this one policy. This doesn’t include the BBC coverage on either the web, radio or TV.
Has any other story featured so prominently in this by-election?
Oh, see if you can find the one headline that isn't anti SNP, yes there is one out of the eleven .............. balance, Scottish media style.
The Scotsman
Local income tax doesn't add up, say experts
13 july
Financial experts tell SNP: Local income tax won't work
14 July 2008
Swinney vows to press ahead with local income tax plan
18 July
Ministers urged to dump local income tax
18 July
Swinney's local tax in trouble
19 July
Labour sparks local tax row over soldiers
20 July
Liberal Democrats offer SNP a chink of light on beleaguered local income tax
21 July
Local tax 'worse than poll tax' to Scots service personnel
21 July
The Herald
Plans for local income tax are unworkable, claim accountants
14 July
Business group warns of pitfalls of local income tax
19 July
SNP local income tax blow as experts PwC criticise plan
21 july
REMEMBER, PLEASE KEEP IGNORING THE TROLLS !! Posted by: Wallace, Perth on 11:13pm Mon 21 Jul 08
What's the betting we'll soon see a headline in the NorthBritishPerson which reads:- SNP Selfishly Claim "It's Scotland's Wind!"?
What's the betting we'll soon see a headline in the NorthBritishPerson which reads:- SNP Selfishly Claim "It's Scotland's Wind!"?
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 11:17pm Mon 21 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Wallace[/bold] wrote:
<i> What's the betting we'll soon see a headline in the NorthBritishPerson which reads:- SNP Selfishly Claim "It's Scotland's Wind!"?</i>[/quote]
LOL - excellent
Wallace wrote:
<i> What's the betting we'll soon see a headline in the NorthBritishPerson which reads:- SNP Selfishly Claim "It's Scotland's Wind!"?</i>
LOL - excellent
Posted by: John F on 11:19pm Mon 21 Jul 08
Scotlands energy demand - The power required on that one day (usually the coldest day of the year) of max demand is between 2,000MW to 5,000MW and on the min demand day (usually the warmest day of the year) 1,800MW to 3,000MW. Load demand varies on a hourly/daily/season basis.
Scotland has about 11,000MW of electricity generation capacity.
Our present nuclear power stations (and wind ?) cannot follow the fluctuations in demand they have to be base load, this is were our coal fired power stations and to a lesser extent our hydro PS's they provide this flexibility.Wether we like it or not with nuclear and wind power we still need power generation flexible enough to follow the grid demand and unless the new generation of nuclear PS's can take over this role this will mean we still need our CFPS's or some other way of generating electricty to follow the load demand.
Want to know how balanced is the UK grid at the moment ?
visit:- http://tinyurl.com/2
5wmes
Scotlands energy demand - The power required on that one day (usually the coldest day of the year) of max demand is between 2,000MW to 5,000MW and on the min demand day (usually the warmest day of the year) 1,800MW to 3,000MW. Load demand varies on a hourly/daily/season basis.
Scotland has about 11,000MW of electricity generation capacity.
Our present nuclear power stations (and wind ?) cannot follow the fluctuations in demand they have to be base load, this is were our coal fired power stations and to a lesser extent our hydro PS's they provide this flexibility.Wether we like it or not with nuclear and wind power we still need power generation flexible enough to follow the grid demand and unless the new generation of nuclear PS's can take over this role this will mean we still need our CFPS's or some other way of generating electricty to follow the load demand.
Want to know how balanced is the UK grid at the moment ?
visit:- http://tinyurl.com/2
5wmes
Posted by: Steve A, Independence is on its way on 11:20pm Mon 21 Jul 08
See the EBC spinning its top off as regards welfare reform from the new Tory party ! Geezo .
Liebour must have knowledge that they will win the by election no matter which way people vote on Thursday !
This stinks .
See the EBC spinning its top off as regards welfare reform from the new Tory party ! Geezo .
Liebour must have knowledge that they will win the by election no matter which way people vote on Thursday !
This stinks .
Posted by: Wilhelm on 11:24pm Mon 21 Jul 08
George Alexander says Apologies for being off topic.
REMEMBER, PLEASE KEEP THE TROLLS !!
Eh ?
George Alexander says Apologies for being off topic.
REMEMBER, PLEASE KEEP THE TROLLS !!
Eh ?
Posted by: Cynicus on 11:35pm Mon 21 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Wardog[/bold] wrote:
[bold]More Great News for Scotland, keep em' coming Alec[/bold]
[/quote] You're having a laugh aren't you? This development is a disaster for Scotland. Alex Salmond must be a centipede -given the number of feet he is shooting himself in.
Wardog wrote:
More Great News for Scotland, keep em' coming Alec
You're having a laugh aren't you? This development is a disaster for Scotland. Alex Salmond must be a centipede -given the number of feet he is shooting himself in.
Posted by: Steve A, Independence is on its way on 11:43pm Mon 21 Jul 08
Cynicus
Does that make mags the bags a millipede then ?
Cynicus
Does that make mags the bags a millipede then ?
Posted by: Wilhelm on 11:44pm Mon 21 Jul 08
cynicup say
''Alex Salmond must be a centipede -given the number of feet he is shooting himself in.''
Well that makes Gordon Brown a millipede then , doesnt it ?
cynicup say
''Alex Salmond must be a centipede -given the number of feet he is shooting himself in.''
Well that makes Gordon Brown a millipede then , doesnt it ?
Posted by: Steve A, glasgow on 11:51pm Mon 21 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Wilhelm[/bold] wrote:
cynicup say ''Alex Salmond must be a centipede -given the number of feet he is shooting himself in.'' Well that makes Gordon Brown a millipede then , doesnt it ? [/quote] Great minds or what ?
Wilhelm wrote:
cynicup say ''Alex Salmond must be a centipede -given the number of feet he is shooting himself in.'' Well that makes Gordon Brown a millipede then , doesnt it ?
Great minds or what ?
Posted by: baffled, scotland on 11:56pm Mon 21 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Wardog[/bold] wrote:
[bold]More Great News for Scotland, keep em' coming Alec[/bold]
[/quote]
Where's the back up?
Wardog wrote:
More Great News for Scotland, keep em' coming Alec
Where's the back up?
Posted by: Wilhelm on Tue 22 Jul 08
Stevie A
You beat me to it by a minute.
Stevie A
You beat me to it by a minute.
Posted by: Steve A, glasgow on 12:06am Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Wilhelm[/bold] wrote:
Stevie A You beat me to it by a minute.[/quote] Am wan fingered typist anaw wullie awa fingers and nay fumbs !
Wilhelm wrote:
Stevie A You beat me to it by a minute.
Am wan fingered typist anaw wullie awa fingers and nay fumbs !
Posted by: Wilhelm on 12:11am Tue 22 Jul 08
Baffled more like thick says
'' Where's the back up? ''
We will stick a windmill up your rectum and have enough power to generate western Europe.
Are you happy now ?
Ps. I used that joke yesterday but hey,the Herald repeats the same old storys too.
Baffled more like thick says
'' Where's the back up? ''
We will stick a windmill up your rectum and have enough power to generate western Europe.
Are you happy now ?
Ps. I used that joke yesterday but hey,the Herald repeats the same old storys too.
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 12:17am Tue 22 Jul 08
baffled, scotland on 11:56pm Mon 21 Jul 08
oh no....Baffled .....your not going to start one of your 'procedure' debates again, pin heads and eyes etc.
A debate takes part when there are atleast TWO contrasting views, you consistently fail to put forward any position on which to debate anything. It is just unrelenting negativity a, pessimism and dogma.
Doom and gloom, I'm feeling slightly depressed just answering you.
No generation technology is 100% reliable and reserves are always required to cover unexpected outages on all types of plant, whether renewable or not. Our Nuclear power stations were largely rendered useless in 2006 due to servicing issues, longannett was also off-line for a while.
[bold]'Backup'[/bold] as you call it will come from a mixture of sources, carbon capture (coal,oil,gas), hydrogen cell storage, hydro, wave and tidal.
Renewables that are rely on intermittent energy sources can be arranged in systems which are monitored and linked to maintain a base load for Scotland and export energy as we currently do.
The first Hydrogen plant will come on stream in the next couple of years, if successful, it will not only revolutionise wind power but possibly also vehicle fuel.
[bold]Scotland will be green energy capital of Europe[/bold]
At the rate we're going at we should easily be hitting [bold]9-12GW[/bold] of renewables long before 2020 and way over Scotland's base load.
What's as important however is that we establish a manufacturing and design R+D base in Scotland for all of these technologies.
I'd like to see the Govan yards for example involved in the fabrication of undersea turbines for global export, building expertise in the design and fabrication of CHP Systems, wave technologies and more efficient wind turbines.
I'd like to see Carbon Capture heavily invested in by the Government in the NE to both further the oil industry but also to establish Aberdeen for instance as the tru Energy Capital of Europe, maybe the world.
In addition to all of this must be a drive to create more energy efficient homes, more efficient appliance and lighting and a greater understanding of our natural resources.
The nuclear plants in Scotland will continue to run for the next five - ten years until we've built up a suitable capacity in all of the above technologies.
They will then start their decommissioning process.
Today's news is another significant step towards the vision I've outlined above.
[bold]Now, I repeat, what's your ideas......try to be positive[/bold]
baffled, scotland on 11:56pm Mon 21 Jul 08
oh no....Baffled .....your not going to start one of your 'procedure' debates again, pin heads and eyes etc.
A debate takes part when there are atleast TWO contrasting views, you consistently fail to put forward any position on which to debate anything. It is just unrelenting negativity a, pessimism and dogma.
Doom and gloom, I'm feeling slightly depressed just answering you.
No generation technology is 100% reliable and reserves are always required to cover unexpected outages on all types of plant, whether renewable or not. Our Nuclear power stations were largely rendered useless in 2006 due to servicing issues, longannett was also off-line for a while.
'Backup' as you call it will come from a mixture of sources, carbon capture (coal,oil,gas), hydrogen cell storage, hydro, wave and tidal.
Renewables that are rely on intermittent energy sources can be arranged in systems which are monitored and linked to maintain a base load for Scotland and export energy as we currently do.
The first Hydrogen plant will come on stream in the next couple of years, if successful, it will not only revolutionise wind power but possibly also vehicle fuel.
Scotland will be green energy capital of Europe
At the rate we're going at we should easily be hitting
9-12GW of renewables long before 2020 and way over Scotland's base load.
What's as important however is that we establish a manufacturing and design R+D base in Scotland for all of these technologies.
I'd like to see the Govan yards for example involved in the fabrication of undersea turbines for global export, building expertise in the design and fabrication of CHP Systems, wave technologies and more efficient wind turbines.
I'd like to see Carbon Capture heavily invested in by the Government in the NE to both further the oil industry but also to establish Aberdeen for instance as the tru Energy Capital of Europe, maybe the world.
In addition to all of this must be a drive to create more energy efficient homes, more efficient appliance and lighting and a greater understanding of our natural resources.
The nuclear plants in Scotland will continue to run for the next five - ten years until we've built up a suitable capacity in all of the above technologies.
They will then start their decommissioning process.
Today's news is another significant step towards the vision I've outlined above.
Now, I repeat, what's your ideas......try to be positive
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 12:19am Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Cynicus[/bold] wrote:
<i>[quote][bold]Wardog[/bold] wrote:
[bold]More Great News for Scotland, keep em' coming Alec[/bold]
[/quote] You're having a laugh aren't you? This development is a disaster for Scotland. Alex Salmond must be a centipede -given the number of feet he is shooting himself in.</i>[/quote]
your piishing into the wind my friend
Cynicus wrote:
<i>Wardog wrote:
More Great News for Scotland, keep em' coming Alec
You're having a laugh aren't you? This development is a disaster for Scotland. Alex Salmond must be a centipede -given the number of feet he is shooting himself in.</i>
your piishing into the wind my friend
Posted by: Steve A, Independence is on its way on 12:32am Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Wardog[/bold] wrote:
baffled, scotland on 11:56pm Mon 21 Jul 08 oh no....Baffled .....your not going to start one of your 'procedure' debates again, pin heads and eyes etc. A debate takes part when there are atleast TWO contrasting views, you consistently fail to put forward any position on which to debate anything. It is just unrelenting negativity a, pessimism and dogma. Doom and gloom, I'm feeling slightly depressed just answering you. No generation technology is 100% reliable and reserves are always required to cover unexpected outages on all types of plant, whether renewable or not. Our Nuclear power stations were largely rendered useless in 2006 due to servicing issues, longannett was also off-line for a while. [bold]'Backup'[/bold] as you call it will come from a mixture of sources, carbon capture (coal,oil,gas), hydrogen cell storage, hydro, wave and tidal. Renewables that are rely on intermittent energy sources can be arranged in systems which are monitored and linked to maintain a base load for Scotland and export energy as we currently do. The first Hydrogen plant will come on stream in the next couple of years, if successful, it will not only revolutionise wind power but possibly also vehicle fuel. [bold]Scotland will be green energy capital of Europe[/bold] At the rate we're going at we should easily be hitting [bold]9-12GW[/bold] of renewables long before 2020 and way over Scotland's base load. What's as important however is that we establish a manufacturing and design R+D base in Scotland for all of these technologies. I'd like to see the Govan yards for example involved in the fabrication of undersea turbines for global export, building expertise in the design and fabrication of CHP Systems, wave technologies and more efficient wind turbines. I'd like to see Carbon Capture heavily invested in by the Government in the NE to both further the oil industry but also to establish Aberdeen for instance as the tru Energy Capital of Europe, maybe the world. In addition to all of this must be a drive to create more energy efficient homes, more efficient appliance and lighting and a greater understanding of our natural resources. The nuclear plants in Scotland will continue to run for the next five - ten years until we've built up a suitable capacity in all of the above technologies. They will then start their decommissioning process. Today's news is another significant step towards the vision I've outlined above. [bold]Now, I repeat, what's your ideas......try to be positive[/bold] [/quote] Wardog
He's lost countless debates with you on the very principles that you outline the guy's just a time waster and in my opinion not worthy of your wisdom .
FCUK HIM !
Wardog wrote:
baffled, scotland on 11:56pm Mon 21 Jul 08 oh no....Baffled .....your not going to start one of your 'procedure' debates again, pin heads and eyes etc. A debate takes part when there are atleast TWO contrasting views, you consistently fail to put forward any position on which to debate anything. It is just unrelenting negativity a, pessimism and dogma. Doom and gloom, I'm feeling slightly depressed just answering you. No generation technology is 100% reliable and reserves are always required to cover unexpected outages on all types of plant, whether renewable or not. Our Nuclear power stations were largely rendered useless in 2006 due to servicing issues, longannett was also off-line for a while. 'Backup' as you call it will come from a mixture of sources, carbon capture (coal,oil,gas), hydrogen cell storage, hydro, wave and tidal. Renewables that are rely on intermittent energy sources can be arranged in systems which are monitored and linked to maintain a base load for Scotland and export energy as we currently do. The first Hydrogen plant will come on stream in the next couple of years, if successful, it will not only revolutionise wind power but possibly also vehicle fuel. Scotland will be green energy capital of Europe At the rate we're going at we should easily be hitting 9-12GW of renewables long before 2020 and way over Scotland's base load. What's as important however is that we establish a manufacturing and design R+D base in Scotland for all of these technologies. I'd like to see the Govan yards for example involved in the fabrication of undersea turbines for global export, building expertise in the design and fabrication of CHP Systems, wave technologies and more efficient wind turbines. I'd like to see Carbon Capture heavily invested in by the Government in the NE to both further the oil industry but also to establish Aberdeen for instance as the tru Energy Capital of Europe, maybe the world. In addition to all of this must be a drive to create more energy efficient homes, more efficient appliance and lighting and a greater understanding of our natural resources. The nuclear plants in Scotland will continue to run for the next five - ten years until we've built up a suitable capacity in all of the above technologies. They will then start their decommissioning process. Today's news is another significant step towards the vision I've outlined above. Now, I repeat, what's your ideas......try to be positive
Wardog
He's lost countless debates with you on the very principles that you outline the guy's just a time waster and in my opinion not worthy of your wisdom .
FCUK HIM !
Posted by: Graham, Glasgow on 12:49am Tue 22 Jul 08
Steve,12:32am. Goodness me Steve surely you would not wish Wardug to go to bed on an inflated ego![bold]bold[/bold]
Steve,12:32am. Goodness me Steve surely you would not wish Wardug to go to bed on an inflated ego!
Posted by: Brian Hill, Edinburgh on 12:51am Tue 22 Jul 08
george alexander 10.58pm. Yes we've noticed george but thanks for bringing them all together.
have you also noticed the word BLOW in headlines, often preceded by the words Yet Another and followed by to SNP xyz.
Sadly for these so called journalists, the topics they're raving about are usually of no real interest to the voting public, thus they are ignored and the SNP continues to rise in popularity.
Must be tough being a unionist these days.
george alexander 10.58pm. Yes we've noticed george but thanks for bringing them all together.
have you also noticed the word BLOW in headlines, often preceded by the words Yet Another and followed by to SNP xyz.
Sadly for these so called journalists, the topics they're raving about are usually of no real interest to the voting public, thus they are ignored and the SNP continues to rise in popularity.
Must be tough being a unionist these days.
Posted by: Steve A, Independence is on its way on 12:58am Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Brian Hill[/bold] wrote:
george alexander 10.58pm. Yes we've noticed george but thanks for bringing them all together. have you also noticed the word BLOW in headlines, often preceded by the words Yet Another and followed by to SNP xyz. Sadly for these so called journalists, the topics they're raving about are usually of no real interest to the voting public, thus they are ignored and the SNP continues to rise in popularity. Must be tough being a unionist these days.[/quote] They should be careful as they could end up with a reputation for doing good BLOW JOBS !
Brian Hill wrote:
george alexander 10.58pm. Yes we've noticed george but thanks for bringing them all together. have you also noticed the word BLOW in headlines, often preceded by the words Yet Another and followed by to SNP xyz. Sadly for these so called journalists, the topics they're raving about are usually of no real interest to the voting public, thus they are ignored and the SNP continues to rise in popularity. Must be tough being a unionist these days.
They should be careful as they could end up with a reputation for doing good BLOW JOBS !
Posted by: aapeacock, Bo'nes Harbour on 2:53am Tue 22 Jul 08
No jockey comments
No smaart assd judgement
A group of Liebours supported by the you name it and that is our policy Coonsillors decided that they would give one of the best house building sites in Scotland to a PROVEN BENT DUTCH MULTINATIONAL FINANCE COMPANY
A wee company was formed of which each and every Lie and Lib Dum Councillor could have a share or two and the Cooncil Officials and LATER a wee thousand or two when they sold the shares
And the Dutch would have Millions of pounds of Scots Money
Because the money was being Ripped off the People of Bo'ness by Unionistasts it was acceptable to the Medja and not one would print the foul story
Now a Scots Millionaire has said he will pay for each and every Traitor to be taken to court as indivduals and asked to explain to explain his actions
He is supported by free Scots Lawyers and a Scots Q.C.
The publicity to the Mutinational Dutch Company ING iduring a recession should finish it
The Times they are a changing
Scotland is no longer for SALE BY THE LIEBOR
No jockey comments
No smaart assd judgement
A group of Liebours supported by the you name it and that is our policy Coonsillors decided that they would give one of the best house building sites in Scotland to a PROVEN BENT DUTCH MULTINATIONAL FINANCE COMPANY
A wee company was formed of which each and every Lie and Lib Dum Councillor could have a share or two and the Cooncil Officials and LATER a wee thousand or two when they sold the shares
And the Dutch would have Millions of pounds of Scots Money
Because the money was being Ripped off the People of Bo'ness by Unionistasts it was acceptable to the Medja and not one would print the foul story
Now a Scots Millionaire has said he will pay for each and every Traitor to be taken to court as indivduals and asked to explain to explain his actions
He is supported by free Scots Lawyers and a Scots Q.C.
The publicity to the Mutinational Dutch Company ING iduring a recession should finish it
The Times they are a changing
Scotland is no longer for SALE BY THE LIEBOR
Posted by: andrew d, brisbane on 3:06am Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Wallace[/bold] wrote:
What's the betting we'll soon see a headline in the NorthBritishPerson which reads:- SNP Selfishly Claim "It's Scotland's Wind!"?[/quote] That's brilliant! :D
Wallace wrote:
What's the betting we'll soon see a headline in the NorthBritishPerson which reads:- SNP Selfishly Claim "It's Scotland's Wind!"?
That's brilliant! :D
Posted by: Scunnert, Travelling in Nihlon on 6:23am Tue 22 Jul 08
How come unionist have to slag off every good news story? If gold were to be discovered in large amounts at Leadhills I swear the headline would be:
[quote]LIT crap says Coco the clown![/quote]
Nae wonder naeboby wants tae vote fur thum onymair.
How come unionist have to slag off every good news story? If gold were to be discovered in large amounts at Leadhills I swear the headline would be:
LIT crap says Coco the clown!
Nae wonder naeboby wants tae vote fur thum onymair.
Posted by: george alexander, north lanarkshire on 6:45am Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]george alexander[/bold] wrote:
Apologies for being off topic: In anticipation of another LIT story, I took a look at the number of LIT stories that have featured in either The Herald or The Scotsman/SOS in the last week or so. In total (the ones that I could find) there have been eleven separate stories given over to this one policy. This [bold]doesn’t[/bold] include the BBC coverage on either the web, radio or TV. Has any other story featured so prominently in this by-election? Oh, see if you can find the one headline that isn't anti SNP, yes there is one out of the eleven .............. balance, Scottish media style. [bold][italic]The Scotsman[/[/italic] bold] [bold]Local income tax doesn't add up, say experts[/bold] 13 july [bold]Financial experts tell SNP: Local income tax won't work[/bold] 14 July 2008 [bold]Swinney vows to press ahead with local income tax plan[/bold] 18 July [bold]Ministers urged to dump local income tax[/bold] 18 July [bold]Swinney's local tax in trouble[/bold] 19 July [bold]Labour sparks local tax row over soldiers[/bold] 20 July [bold]Liberal Democrats offer SNP a chink of light on beleaguered local income tax[/bold] 21 July [bold]Local tax 'worse than poll tax' to Scots service personnel[/bold] 21 July [italic][bold]The Herald[/bold] [/italic] [bold]Plans for local income tax are unworkable, claim accountants[/bold] 14 July [bold]Business group warns of pitfalls of local income tax[/bold] 19 July [bold]SNP local income tax blow as experts PwC criticise plan[/bold] 21 july [bold]REMEMBER, PLEASE KEEP IGNORING THE TROLLS !![/bold] [/quote] Add this latest Scotsman article to the list:
[italic]Warning of '£1.3bn black hole' in spending
22 July[/italic]
They've even taken 'black hole' out of retirement !!
[bold]REMEMBER, PLEASE KEEP IGNORING THE TROLLS !![/bold]
george alexander wrote:
Apologies for being off topic: In anticipation of another LIT story, I took a look at the number of LIT stories that have featured in either The Herald or The Scotsman/SOS in the last week or so. In total (the ones that I could find) there have been eleven separate stories given over to this one policy. This doesn’t include the BBC coverage on either the web, radio or TV. Has any other story featured so prominently in this by-election? Oh, see if you can find the one headline that isn't anti SNP, yes there is one out of the eleven .............. balance, Scottish media style. The Scotsman Local income tax doesn't add up, say experts 13 july Financial experts tell SNP: Local income tax won't work 14 July 2008 Swinney vows to press ahead with local income tax plan 18 July Ministers urged to dump local income tax 18 July Swinney's local tax in trouble 19 July Labour sparks local tax row over soldiers 20 July Liberal Democrats offer SNP a chink of light on beleaguered local income tax 21 July Local tax 'worse than poll tax' to Scots service personnel 21 July The Herald Plans for local income tax are unworkable, claim accountants 14 July Business group warns of pitfalls of local income tax 19 July SNP local income tax blow as experts PwC criticise plan 21 july REMEMBER, PLEASE KEEP IGNORING THE TROLLS !!
Add this latest Scotsman article to the list:
Warning of '£1.3bn black hole' in spending
22 July
They've even taken 'black hole' out of retirement !!
REMEMBER, PLEASE KEEP IGNORING THE TROLLS !!
Posted by: pencildick on 6:47am Tue 22 Jul 08
Europes biggest wind farm to be staffed by
Europes biggest windbags
Exiled Aussie
Am2
and Baffled
Europes biggest wind farm to be staffed by
Europes biggest windbags
Exiled Aussie
Am2
and Baffled
Posted by: Donald Anderson, glasgow on 6:50am Tue 22 Jul 08
My Brian Windy Wilson's investment portfolio will be pleased, as he undoubtedly was at his boss's decision to build more nuclear plants in the Faitherland. If he looks out of his Union Jock Boardroom at Parkheid he may just be able to see the windmiils.
Anyway. I thought beloved Westmonster was the biggest wind factory in Europe.
Hope the Lanarkshire view is an improvement on the Millglen Windmill forest hill at Ardossan
My Brian Windy Wilson's investment portfolio will be pleased, as he undoubtedly was at his boss's decision to build more nuclear plants in the Faitherland. If he looks out of his Union Jock Boardroom at Parkheid he may just be able to see the windmiils.
Anyway. I thought beloved Westmonster was the biggest wind factory in Europe.
Hope the Lanarkshire view is an improvement on the Millglen Windmill forest hill at Ardossan
Posted by: andrew mackay, www.greenheating,com on 7:15am Tue 22 Jul 08
The commodity, ie electricity, coming from these ineffectual windmills is the WRONG one.
The CORRECT commodity is HEAT that can be fed directly into existing fossil fuel power stations to help raise steam.
This simple change in strategy will, for the first time, generate help generate base load electricity from renewables.
Pls no crass comments about pumped storage - we do not have enough rain to keep Cruachan running at full capacity for 24 hours!
The commodity, ie electricity, coming from these ineffectual windmills is the WRONG one.
The CORRECT commodity is HEAT that can be fed directly into existing fossil fuel power stations to help raise steam.
This simple change in strategy will, for the first time, generate help generate base load electricity from renewables.
Pls no crass comments about pumped storage - we do not have enough rain to keep Cruachan running at full capacity for 24 hours!
Posted by: Proud to be Scottish, Glasgow on 8:16am Tue 22 Jul 08
This is fantastic news that in Britain we will Eurpopes largest wind farm
I think it is quite important to recognise the role of the UK government had in driving this issue with a blinkered SNP executive (OIL,OIL,OIL,OIL,OIL
,OIL).
Well done Gordon.
LABOUR- VISIONARY
SNP- STUCK IN THE PAST
You couldn't make it up!
This is fantastic news that in Britain we will Eurpopes largest wind farm
I think it is quite important to recognise the role of the UK government had in driving this issue with a blinkered SNP executive (OIL,OIL,OIL,OIL,OIL
,OIL).
Well done Gordon.
LABOUR- VISIONARY
SNP- STUCK IN THE PAST
You couldn't make it up!
Posted by: Proud to be Scottish, Glasgow on 8:23am Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]george alexander[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]george alexander[/bold] wrote: Apologies for being off topic: In anticipation of another LIT story, I took a look at the number of LIT stories that have featured in either The Herald or The Scotsman/SOS in the last week or so. In total (the ones that I could find) there have been eleven separate stories given over to this one policy. This [bold]doesn’t[/bold] include the BBC coverage on either the web, radio or TV. Has any other story featured so prominently in this by-election? Oh, see if you can find the one headline that isn't anti SNP, yes there is one out of the eleven .............. balance, Scottish media style. [bold][italic]The Scotsman[/[/italic] bold] [bold]Local income tax doesn't add up, say experts[/bold] 13 july [bold]Financial experts tell SNP: Local income tax won't work[/bold] 14 July 2008 [bold]Swinney vows to press ahead with local income tax plan[/bold] 18 July [bold]Ministers urged to dump local income tax[/bold] 18 July [bold]Swinney's local tax in trouble[/bold] 19 July [bold]Labour sparks local tax row over soldiers[/bold] 20 July [bold]Liberal Democrats offer SNP a chink of light on beleaguered local income tax[/bold] 21 July [bold]Local tax 'worse than poll tax' to Scots service personnel[/bold] 21 July [italic][bold]The Herald[/bold] [/italic] [bold]Plans for local income tax are unworkable, claim accountants[/bold] 14 July [bold]Business group warns of pitfalls of local income tax[/bold] 19 July [bold]SNP local income tax blow as experts PwC criticise plan[/bold] 21 july [bold]REMEMBER, PLEASE KEEP IGNORING THE TROLLS !![/bold] [/quote] Add this latest Scotsman article to the list: [italic]Warning of '£1.3bn black hole' in spending 22 July[/italic] They've even taken 'black hole' out of retirement !! [bold]REMEMBER, PLEASE KEEP IGNORING THE TROLLS !![/bold] [/quote] who the hell do you think your kidding George?
You come on here and rightiously make comments about Wardog etc hogging the boards and then post something on a completely different topic. He has the right to spout what ever nonsense he wants
Mad nat making it up example #2
george alexander wrote:
george alexander wrote: Apologies for being off topic: In anticipation of another LIT story, I took a look at the number of LIT stories that have featured in either The Herald or The Scotsman/SOS in the last week or so. In total (the ones that I could find) there have been eleven separate stories given over to this one policy. This doesn’t include the BBC coverage on either the web, radio or TV. Has any other story featured so prominently in this by-election? Oh, see if you can find the one headline that isn't anti SNP, yes there is one out of the eleven .............. balance, Scottish media style. The Scotsman Local income tax doesn't add up, say experts 13 july Financial experts tell SNP: Local income tax won't work 14 July 2008 Swinney vows to press ahead with local income tax plan 18 July Ministers urged to dump local income tax 18 July Swinney's local tax in trouble 19 July Labour sparks local tax row over soldiers 20 July Liberal Democrats offer SNP a chink of light on beleaguered local income tax 21 July Local tax 'worse than poll tax' to Scots service personnel 21 July The Herald Plans for local income tax are unworkable, claim accountants 14 July Business group warns of pitfalls of local income tax 19 July SNP local income tax blow as experts PwC criticise plan 21 july REMEMBER, PLEASE KEEP IGNORING THE TROLLS !!
Add this latest Scotsman article to the list: Warning of '£1.3bn black hole' in spending 22 July They've even taken 'black hole' out of retirement !! REMEMBER, PLEASE KEEP IGNORING THE TROLLS !!
who the hell do you think your kidding George?
You come on here and rightiously make comments about Wardog etc hogging the boards and then post something on a completely different topic. He has the right to spout what ever nonsense he wants
Mad nat making it up example #2
Posted by: sam the god, lanarkshire on 8:32am Tue 22 Jul 08
Will the government now build a nuclear power station in holyrood park (a place of no real beauty) to serve the people of Edinburgh as they seem intent in letting one of Scotland’s natural beauty sites be spoiled by these blots on the landscape (wind turbines)
Will the government now build a nuclear power station in holyrood park (a place of no real beauty) to serve the people of Edinburgh as they seem intent in letting one of Scotland’s natural beauty sites be spoiled by these blots on the landscape (wind turbines)
Posted by: davieboy on 8:34am Tue 22 Jul 08
I wonder in the people who stay locally to the wind farm will have the same influence over government ministers as the people in the Western Isles.
Sorry, probably not as there isn't an SNP in South Lanarkshire with a majority to defend.
I wonder in the people who stay locally to the wind farm will have the same influence over government ministers as the people in the Western Isles.
Sorry, probably not as there isn't an SNP in South Lanarkshire with a majority to defend.
Posted by: ptw, at bloody work... on 8:51am Tue 22 Jul 08
Wind farms are nice. We like them. Eh tornface...?
Wind farms are nice. We like them. Eh tornface...?
Posted by: Vote for Scotlands Future, Vote for the SNP on 9:12am Tue 22 Jul 08
Very valid reasons for cancelling the Western Isles Wind Farm - one of them being the company that was to install them was lying. Also there are cheaper viable alternatives.
Most of all, the Western Isles project was planned to be built in a conservation area. Now South Lanarkshire. Labour territory - is it a conservation area??
Well one thing that won't be conserved there is the Labour majority at the next election.
Very valid reasons for cancelling the Western Isles Wind Farm - one of them being the company that was to install them was lying. Also there are cheaper viable alternatives.
Most of all, the Western Isles project was planned to be built in a conservation area. Now South Lanarkshire. Labour territory - is it a conservation area??
Well one thing that won't be conserved there is the Labour majority at the next election.
Posted by: Vote for Scotlands Future, Vote for the SNP on 9:17am Tue 22 Jul 08
Does this mean that, in the future, if you're caught speeding on the M74, you can say you were just helping the wind turbines??
Does this mean that, in the future, if you're caught speeding on the M74, you can say you were just helping the wind turbines??
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 9:41am Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Proud to be Scottish[/bold] wrote:
<i><i> This is fantastic news that in Britain we will Eurpopes largest wind farm
I think it is quite important to recognise the role of the UK government had in driving this issue with a blinkered SNP executive (OIL,OIL,OIL,OIL,OIL
,OIL).
Well done Gordon.
LABOUR- VISIONARY
SNP- STUCK IN THE PAST
You couldn't make it up!</i></i>[/quote]
[bold]YOU could make it up[/bold]
Welcome back PtbS.... gave up canvassing have we?
I'm surprised that you'd take the voters of Glasgow East for granted.
Proud to be Scottish wrote:
<i><i> This is fantastic news that in Britain we will Eurpopes largest wind farm
I think it is quite important to recognise the role of the UK government had in driving this issue with a blinkered SNP executive (OIL,OIL,OIL,OIL,OIL
,OIL).
Well done Gordon.
LABOUR- VISIONARY
SNP- STUCK IN THE PAST
You couldn't make it up!</i></i>
YOU could make it up
Welcome back PtbS.... gave up canvassing have we?
I'm surprised that you'd take the voters of Glasgow East for granted.
Posted by: oldmack, Scotland on 9:48am Tue 22 Jul 08
To paraphrase “why when everybody around you believes you to be a fool, do you hit the keyboard and prove it beyond doubt”
To paraphrase “why when everybody around you believes you to be a fool, do you hit the keyboard and prove it beyond doubt”
Posted by: Rab Jones, Glasgow on 9:55am Tue 22 Jul 08
does that mean energy prices will drop?
Or is wind going to be taxed?
does that mean energy prices will drop?
Or is wind going to be taxed?
Posted by: baffled, scotland on 9:56am Tue 22 Jul 08
Where is the backup?
If it's too windy these sites are shut down.
If there isn't enough wind they don't produce electricity.
Where is the back up?
Where is the backup?
If it's too windy these sites are shut down.
If there isn't enough wind they don't produce electricity.
Where is the back up?
Posted by: Wilhelm on 10:06am Tue 22 Jul 08
Baffled more like thick
Have you got alzheimers ? You said the same thing last night.
Baffled more like thick
Have you got alzheimers ? You said the same thing last night.
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 10:12am Tue 22 Jul 08
baffled, scotland on 9:56am today
Your doing it again baffled, your not debating, you just posting questions again. See my response above for details of backup and the future direction of Scotland's energy sector.
[bold]Now, I repeat, what is your alternative idea[/bold]
[italic]raise yer game baffled and drop the dogma[/italic]
baffled, scotland on 9:56am today
Your doing it again baffled, your not debating, you just posting questions again. See my response above for details of backup and the future direction of Scotland's energy sector.
Now, I repeat, what is your alternative idea
raise yer game baffled and drop the dogma
Posted by: baffled, scotland on 10:12am Tue 22 Jul 08
And I'm still waiting for an answer.
And I'm still waiting for an answer.
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 10:14am Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote:
<i> Steve,12:32am. Goodness me Steve surely you would not wish Wardug to go to bed on an inflated ego![bold]bold[/bold] </i>[/quote] ha ha ha - fortunately for me I didn't see stevie's message and slept soundly as always..... much appreciated though stevie....
Graham wrote:
<i> Steve,12:32am. Goodness me Steve surely you would not wish Wardug to go to bed on an inflated ego! </i>
ha ha ha - fortunately for me I didn't see stevie's message and slept soundly as always..... much appreciated though stevie....
Posted by: girfut, thebigisland on 10:15am Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]andrew mackay[/bold] wrote:
<i><i> The commodity, ie electricity, coming from these ineffectual windmills is the WRONG one.
The CORRECT commodity is HEAT that can be fed directly into existing fossil fuel power stations to help raise steam.
This simple change in strategy will, for the first time, generate help generate base load electricity from renewables.
Pls no crass comments about pumped storage - we do not have enough rain to keep Cruachan running at full capacity for 24 hours!</i></i>[/quote] Crass comment No. 1
Cruachan is a pumped storage scheme. This allows "spare" power on the grid at night to pump water into dam and produce power through the day when demand is greater. In effect it is a big battery.
Crass comment No. 2
Exactly the same system can be constructed on the coast using seawater. Rainfall irrelevant, but in Cruachan`s case Mackay, as the system is designed as a storage one, It never was intended to produce 24/7.
Crass comment No. 3
Heat is the biggest energy LOSS in transmitting electricity over a distance, however your own hot air could no doubt help your neighbour hood CH scheme.
Crass comment No. 4
The difference between yourself and a troll is that you probably believe what you type.
andrew mackay wrote:
<i><i> The commodity, ie electricity, coming from these ineffectual windmills is the WRONG one.
The CORRECT commodity is HEAT that can be fed directly into existing fossil fuel power stations to help raise steam.
This simple change in strategy will, for the first time, generate help generate base load electricity from renewables.
Pls no crass comments about pumped storage - we do not have enough rain to keep Cruachan running at full capacity for 24 hours!</i></i>
Crass comment No. 1
Cruachan is a pumped storage scheme. This allows "spare" power on the grid at night to pump water into dam and produce power through the day when demand is greater. In effect it is a big battery.
Crass comment No. 2
Exactly the same system can be constructed on the coast using seawater. Rainfall irrelevant, but in Cruachan`s case Mackay, as the system is designed as a storage one, It never was intended to produce 24/7.
Crass comment No. 3
Heat is the biggest energy LOSS in transmitting electricity over a distance, however your own hot air could no doubt help your neighbour hood CH scheme.
Crass comment No. 4
The difference between yourself and a troll is that you probably believe what you type.
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 10:16am Tue 22 Jul 08
baffled, scotland on 10:12am today
[quote]And I'm still waiting for an answer.[/quote]
see [bold]Wardog[/bold] , Buckie on 12:17am today
[italic]Don't tell me your going to be doing your 'procedure' act, if you wrong just say so and put your hand up.[/italic]
C'mon Baffled
baffled, scotland on 10:12am today
And I'm still waiting for an answer.
see
Wardog , Buckie on 12:17am today
Don't tell me your going to be doing your 'procedure' act, if you wrong just say so and put your hand up.
C'mon Baffled
Posted by: Wilhelm on 10:17am Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]baffled[/bold] wrote:
And I'm still waiting for an answer.[/quote] And I gave you the answer . Stick a windmill up your rectum. Comprende.
baffled wrote:
And I'm still waiting for an answer.
And I gave you the answer . Stick a windmill up your rectum. Comprende.
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 10:20am Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]girfut[/bold] wrote:
<i><i><i>[quote][bold]andrew mackay[/bold] wrote:
<i><i> The commodity, ie electricity, coming from these ineffectual windmills is the WRONG one.
The CORRECT commodity is HEAT that can be fed directly into existing fossil fuel power stations to help raise steam.
This simple change in strategy will, for the first time, generate help generate base load electricity from renewables.
Pls no crass comments about pumped storage - we do not have enough rain to keep Cruachan running at full capacity for 24 hours!</i></i>[/quote] Crass comment No. 1
Cruachan is a pumped storage scheme. This allows "spare" power on the grid at night to pump water into dam and produce power through the day when demand is greater. In effect it is a big battery.
Crass comment No. 2
Exactly the same system can be constructed on the coast using seawater. Rainfall irrelevant, but in Cruachan`s case Mackay, as the system is designed as a storage one, It n
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