Labour disarray over by-election candidate
Labour's plans for the Glasgow East by-election were thrown into turmoil last night when the party was left without a candidate for the crucial first weekend of campaigning.
Shettleston councillor George Ryan, the favourite for the nomination in the Labour stronghold, was unable to attend a selection meeting in the constituency due to "unforeseen circumstances", according to a party spokesperson. It is understood that Mr Ryan's partner is reluctant for him to seek the nomination but the first that campaign organisers knew of the situation was at last evening's meeting.
With a question mark over Mr Ryan's candidacy his close friend Steven Purcell, leader of Glasgow City Council, will come under party pressure to seek the nomination.
Local Labour party members decided unanimously to postpone their selection until Monday evening. Two other shortlisted candidates - Irene Graham, a former Glasgow councillor, and Doug Maughan, an airline pilot from Stirling - accepted the decision.
This leaves Labour, defending a 13,506 majority in the seat, having to abandon the planned launch of its campaign today and at the disadvantage of not having a candidate it can ask people to vote for while other parties hit the streets this morning.
The SNP said that Labour would now regret moving a writ for the by-election, caused by the resignation of sitting MP David Marshall, with undue haste. The vote will take place in two-and- a-half week's time on Thursday July 24, in the middle of the Glasgow Fair fortnight.
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Posted by: Jock Politicaljunkie, Glasgow on 1:24am Sat 5 Jul 08
Mmmmm - Interesting delay - I wonder if, having lost their deposit in Henley, they can't raise the deposit for Glasgow East?
Mmmmm - Interesting delay - I wonder if, having lost their deposit in Henley, they can't raise the deposit for Glasgow East?
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 1:25am Sat 5 Jul 08
[quote]Shettleston councillor George Ryan, the favourite for the nomination in the Labour stronghold, was unable to attend a selection meeting in the constituency due to "unforeseen circumstances"[/quote] You didn't see me, okay?
Shettleston councillor George Ryan, the favourite for the nomination in the Labour stronghold, was unable to attend a selection meeting in the constituency due to "unforeseen circumstances"
You didn't see me, okay?
Posted by: Harry Shanks, Rutherglen on 1:26am Sat 5 Jul 08
The rats are deserting the sinking ship
The rats are deserting the sinking ship
Posted by: Gaavster, Ayr on 1:27am Sat 5 Jul 08
You really couldnt make this up... :o)
And they want us, the people, the electorate to vote for them....
LOL LOL LOL
Brewery, and p*ss up seem to come to mind....
never mind successfully run a country, they cant even run a committee to select a candidate to run in a by election....
Oh the pain!!
You really couldnt make this up... :o)
And they want us, the people, the electorate to vote for them....
LOL LOL LOL
Brewery, and p*ss up seem to come to mind....
never mind successfully run a country, they cant even run a committee to select a candidate to run in a by election....
Oh the pain!!
Posted by: nouveauxscum on 1:32am Sat 5 Jul 08
Oinkers shun the trough shock!
Oinkers shun the trough shock!
Posted by: MtnKat on 1:52am Sat 5 Jul 08
God Bless Labour!
The media must be thanking their lucky stars.
God Bless Labour!
The media must be thanking their lucky stars.
Posted by: clochoderic, renfrashur on 1:55am Sat 5 Jul 08
Jackie Baillie`s spokesperson says :
"F******* C****""
Jackie Baillie`s spokesperson says :
"F******* C****""
Posted by: Harry Shanks, Rutherglen on 2:00am Sat 5 Jul 08
[quote][bold]clochoderic[/bold] wrote:
Jackie Baillie`s spokesperson says : "F******* C****"" [/quote] "Close friend"????
Is this a hint that Cllr Ryan looks forward to Steven Purcell filling his space for him?
clochoderic wrote:
Jackie Baillie`s spokesperson says : "F******* C****""
"Close friend"????
Is this a hint that Cllr Ryan looks forward to Steven Purcell filling his space for him?
Posted by: Richard Quinn, Glasgow on 2:11am Sat 5 Jul 08
What a pantomime.
They couldn't run a monogue.
The voters in Glasgow East are the lucky ones.
Who else can kick Gordon Brown from afar, and get away with it.
I think it's going to be the best fair fortnight yet.
19 days and counting.
.
What a pantomime.
They couldn't run a monogue.
The voters in Glasgow East are the lucky ones.
Who else can kick Gordon Brown from afar, and get away with it.
I think it's going to be the best fair fortnight yet.
19 days and counting.
.
Posted by: neil robertson, Dundee, Scotland on 2:15am Sat 5 Jul 08
Surely Purcell is too smart to commit political suicide this early in a promising career?
Surely Purcell is too smart to commit political suicide this early in a promising career?
Posted by: clochoderic, renfrashur on 2:24am Sat 5 Jul 08
Am I allowed to add that Dougie Alexander is an odious, incompetent creep, promoted beyond his abilities by the unacclaimed sub-prime minister Broon?
Am I allowed to add that Dougie Alexander is an odious, incompetent creep, promoted beyond his abilities by the unacclaimed sub-prime minister Broon?
Posted by: neil robertson, Dundee, Scotland on 2:27am Sat 5 Jul 08
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Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 2:27am Sat 5 Jul 08
He comes across as sychophantic, a Uriah Heep character ... but was not there a Tory secrerary of state with exactly the same reptilian personality?
He comes across as sychophantic, a Uriah Heep character ... but was not there a Tory secrerary of state with exactly the same reptilian personality?
Posted by: clochoderic, renfrashur on 2:30am Sat 5 Jul 08
Got it in one, LA - mickey forsyth in a saint mirren strip - the bawbag
Got it in one, LA - mickey forsyth in a saint mirren strip - the bawbag
Posted by: neil robertson, Dundee, Scotland on 2:31am Sat 5 Jul 08
At least Forsyth could play the violin ........ almost as well as Nero I was told by one of Scotland's leading musicians who spoke to him about cuts in music tuition!!
At least Forsyth could play the violin ........ almost as well as Nero I was told by one of Scotland's leading musicians who spoke to him about cuts in music tuition!!
Posted by: Traquir, Alba on 2:39am Sat 5 Jul 08
So comrade Ryan cannae be bothered going down
tae London town - perhaps he would be better off
with Independence and he would just have to
travel to Edinburgh :)
LOL, what delicious irony if only the election had no been
so rushed then Labour would have had time to prepare :)
Here I think is the real reason they don't want Georgie
Boy being their candidate -
see -tinyurl.com/5hd5ec
Basically he opposed flying the Union flag and God Save
The Queen in Glasgow in favour of flying the
saltire and use the song Flower of Scotland instead :)
Can this Labour farce get any better - I have tears
in my eyes and am not sure how much of it I can
take - perhaps their latest cunning ploy is for the SNP
to die laughing :)
Now the excuse is that he does not want to go down
to Westminster - who can blame him.
All we need now is to have them nominate Foulkes or
Baillie for the circus to be complete.
However most likely it will a Glasgow Labour Councillor,
which reminds me has anybody managed to get their
hands on a copy of Halls of Infamy about the endemic sleaze
in Glasgow City Council ? Apparently it has now been
removed from Borders shelves in Glasgow's West End
and a full scale ban and censorship appears to be
in force. It would serve the SNP greatly if somebody can
their hands on this latest set of Labour sleaze and/or
can track down the author Niall Walker - hopefully
they have not bumped him off - he appears to have
disappeared.
Saor Alba
So comrade Ryan cannae be bothered going down
tae London town - perhaps he would be better off
with Independence and he would just have to
travel to Edinburgh :)
LOL, what delicious irony if only the election had no been
so rushed then Labour would have had time to prepare :)
Here I think is the real reason they don't want Georgie
Boy being their candidate -
see -tinyurl.com/5hd5ec
Basically he opposed flying the Union flag and God Save
The Queen in Glasgow in favour of flying the
saltire and use the song Flower of Scotland instead :)
Can this Labour farce get any better - I have tears
in my eyes and am not sure how much of it I can
take - perhaps their latest cunning ploy is for the SNP
to die laughing :)
Now the excuse is that he does not want to go down
to Westminster - who can blame him.
All we need now is to have them nominate Foulkes or
Baillie for the circus to be complete.
However most likely it will a Glasgow Labour Councillor,
which reminds me has anybody managed to get their
hands on a copy of Halls of Infamy about the endemic sleaze
in Glasgow City Council ? Apparently it has now been
removed from Borders shelves in Glasgow's West End
and a full scale ban and censorship appears to be
in force. It would serve the SNP greatly if somebody can
their hands on this latest set of Labour sleaze and/or
can track down the author Niall Walker - hopefully
they have not bumped him off - he appears to have
disappeared.
Saor Alba
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 2:39am Sat 5 Jul 08
"Micky Forsyth" - LoL
Posted by: Steve A, Independence for Scotland! on 2:40am Sat 5 Jul 08
If this is a measure of labours organisational skills then the leadership election is going to be hilarious.
If this is a measure of labours organisational skills then the leadership election is going to be hilarious.
Posted by: clochoderic, renfrashur on 2:41am Sat 5 Jul 08
Never mind the Tories - can Nulab get it up for this election?
Let`s see their big scottish guns like Des Browne, Darling and Alexander out on the streets -and see them wither under public scrutiny.
Never mind the Tories - can Nulab get it up for this election?
Let`s see their big scottish guns like Des Browne, Darling and Alexander out on the streets -and see them wither under public scrutiny.
Posted by: george alexander, north lanarkshire on 2:44am Sat 5 Jul 08
Arnold Codger, Glasgow on 1:57am today:
Good luck, ironically I'm in the USA right now watching a major firework display for July 4th, independence day.
Is it true that the bookmakers have the SNP as favourites for this by-election?
Arnold Codger, Glasgow on 1:57am today:
Good luck, ironically I'm in the USA right now watching a major firework display for July 4th, independence day.
Is it true that the bookmakers have the SNP as favourites for this by-election?
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 2:45am Sat 5 Jul 08
Traquir - Alba[quote]has anybody managed to get their
hands on a copy of [italic]Halls of Infamy[/italic] about the endemic sleaze
in Glasgow City Council ?[/quote] Google [italic]Halls of Infamy[/italic] and you get two titles:
"No Time for Goodbyes"
"The Outcast."
Traquir - Alba
has anybody managed to get their
hands on a copy of Halls of Infamy about the endemic sleaze
in Glasgow City Council ?
Google
Halls of Infamy and you get two titles:
"No Time for Goodbyes"
"The Outcast."
Posted by: clochoderic, renfrashur on 3:09am Sat 5 Jul 08
Back to the subject - Nulab`s inability to field a candidate with any credibility..
Do Masons not give penalties against the tims?
Back to the subject - Nulab`s inability to field a candidate with any credibility..
Do Masons not give penalties against the tims?
Posted by: redc;liffe62, brisbane on hols on 6:19am Sat 5 Jul 08
my guess is ryan will wait til monday in case paul hutcheon has the scoop on the real reasons as to why marshall left. if that comes out in the main stream then labour is shot to bits.
expect an announcement on increased commonwealth games funding from london in next 2 weeks, to quell the antagonism about london's olympics only helping london. a return of lotteries money would be a good way without it seeming to be anti english....
the list of mps who gave themselves 24k should be in the advertising, as should the additional costs to owners of old cars , the 10p tax issue and the expenses paid to family members which were undeclared to westminster.
marshall voted to keep it that way, 220k to tina for making tea can be explained away no doubt, it just will not be allowed to be asked as marshall is too ill to answer such questions.....
with ryan , marshall and stephen all having family reasons, a non medical bypass not withstanding in nicol's case, it appears that the kitchen is too hot for kiddies to be left in the vicinity in case they burn themselves doing something ELSE stupid.
labour is considering issuing an advert, vote for us and keep your benefits, scaremongering not about 50000 pounds per person, as that is lies and was shown to be , but hinting who knows what the other nasty parties will do to your bevy allowance, on the basis that is all they have ever needed to say. they may be right. it is however a sad insight that such an approach can win an election!
my guess is ryan will wait til monday in case paul hutcheon has the scoop on the real reasons as to why marshall left. if that comes out in the main stream then labour is shot to bits.
expect an announcement on increased commonwealth games funding from london in next 2 weeks, to quell the antagonism about london's olympics only helping london. a return of lotteries money would be a good way without it seeming to be anti english....
the list of mps who gave themselves 24k should be in the advertising, as should the additional costs to owners of old cars , the 10p tax issue and the expenses paid to family members which were undeclared to westminster.
marshall voted to keep it that way, 220k to tina for making tea can be explained away no doubt, it just will not be allowed to be asked as marshall is too ill to answer such questions.....
with ryan , marshall and stephen all having family reasons, a non medical bypass not withstanding in nicol's case, it appears that the kitchen is too hot for kiddies to be left in the vicinity in case they burn themselves doing something ELSE stupid.
labour is considering issuing an advert, vote for us and keep your benefits, scaremongering not about 50000 pounds per person, as that is lies and was shown to be , but hinting who knows what the other nasty parties will do to your bevy allowance, on the basis that is all they have ever needed to say. they may be right. it is however a sad insight that such an approach can win an election!
Posted by: redc;liffe62, brisbane on hols on 6:21am Sat 5 Jul 08
5000 not 50000 of course
Posted by: John Clark on 6:23am Sat 5 Jul 08
redc, is correct. They will indeed tell the poor that if they don't vote labour their benefits will be humped by the tories. Note lots of working people are on benefits as well.
That said, the Labour cabal is surely the worst we have seen for a very long time. They have zero credibility. Cronies and brown nosers.
redc, is correct. They will indeed tell the poor that if they don't vote labour their benefits will be humped by the tories. Note lots of working people are on benefits as well.
That said, the Labour cabal is surely the worst we have seen for a very long time. They have zero credibility. Cronies and brown nosers.
Posted by: Donald Anderson, glasgow on 6:49am Sat 5 Jul 08
The candidate will have the unfortunate distinction of not only just losing a by election, but of seeing the demise of Gordon Broon and New Labour and of forseeing the watershed on the road to Scottish Independence. Only a numpty would seek that distinction.
Little Red Numpty in a rosette is not working any more. This time the British Labour candidate will be under scrutiny as never before. Even the English media and what passes for the Scottish media, will focus in on Labour's disgraceful record in the East End, the "jewel" in Labour's loyalist Crown.
The candidate will have the unfortunate distinction of not only just losing a by election, but of seeing the demise of Gordon Broon and New Labour and of forseeing the watershed on the road to Scottish Independence. Only a numpty would seek that distinction.
Little Red Numpty in a rosette is not working any more. This time the British Labour candidate will be under scrutiny as never before. Even the English media and what passes for the Scottish media, will focus in on Labour's disgraceful record in the East End, the "jewel" in Labour's loyalist Crown.
Posted by: Arnold Codger, Glasgow on 6:56am Sat 5 Jul 08
Yes i understand from a post the other day that nearly all the bookies have the SNP favourite to win the Glasgow East election.
From The Telegraph on July 3rd:-
"The bookies set the odds accordingly, with the SNP 8/13 favourites and Labour quoted at 6/5.
However, this afternoon, Ladbrokes has shortened Labour's odds after a flurry of bets to make them joint favourite with the SNP to win the seat at 5/6."
Yes i understand from a post the other day that nearly all the bookies have the SNP favourite to win the Glasgow East election.
From The Telegraph on July 3rd:-
"The bookies set the odds accordingly, with the SNP 8/13 favourites and Labour quoted at 6/5.
However, this afternoon, Ladbrokes has shortened Labour's odds after a flurry of bets to make them joint favourite with the SNP to win the seat at 5/6."
Posted by: talorthane, Glasgow on 6:59am Sat 5 Jul 08
Traquair
"...which reminds me has anybody managed to get their
hands on a copy of Halls of Infamy about the endemic sleaze
in Glasgow City Council ?"
Perhaps George Ryan's partner managed to get the last copy.
Traquair
"...which reminds me has anybody managed to get their
hands on a copy of Halls of Infamy about the endemic sleaze
in Glasgow City Council ?"
Perhaps George Ryan's partner managed to get the last copy.
Posted by: steve4349, larbet on 7:04am Sat 5 Jul 08
the failure of all labours policies in scotland for the last 50 years are highlighted in the east end no amount of lies is goiing to hide them from the world wide media.broon the leader of the liebour party is to scared to face the people of the east end,his corrupt minions such as wee dougie alexander who is not fit to run a message never mind a dept of government are not going to be able to brush aside the issues with there spin to the people who will vote.
the failure of all labours policies in scotland for the last 50 years are highlighted in the east end no amount of lies is goiing to hide them from the world wide media.broon the leader of the liebour party is to scared to face the people of the east end,his corrupt minions such as wee dougie alexander who is not fit to run a message never mind a dept of government are not going to be able to brush aside the issues with there spin to the people who will vote.
Posted by: dave, north on 7:08am Sat 5 Jul 08
Where are Labour getting the money to fight this campaign?I thought they were teetering on the brink of bankruptcy.
Where are Labour getting the money to fight this campaign?I thought they were teetering on the brink of bankruptcy.
Posted by: leesome, Glasgow on 7:15am Sat 5 Jul 08
This one is going to show if the Labour have indeed collasped. The east-end of Glasgow maybe about to have the foundations removed for a new era. Labour will not be bothered, as they are often responsible for removing our cultural heritage.
This one is going to show if the Labour have indeed collasped. The east-end of Glasgow maybe about to have the foundations removed for a new era. Labour will not be bothered, as they are often responsible for removing our cultural heritage.
Posted by: Jimmy the Pie, Orkney on 7:25am Sat 5 Jul 08
I asked for expense details from the London parliament, on Ann McKechin, MP for Glasgow North, David Cairns, MP for Inverclyde and Edinburgh North & Leith MP, Mark Lazarowicz.
I also asked for info on His Lardship, Lard Foolkes from the Hoose of Lords @ foilords@parliament.
uk.
They are very helpful, even acknowledging my enquiry and promising details next week. I will of course pass on details of their sleaze
I was going to enquire about George Ryan but seemingly he never showed up at his acceptance meeting!!!!
Looks like Purcell, so its his financial details I'm after.
Might find them in HALLS OF INFAMY?????
I asked for expense details from the London parliament, on Ann McKechin, MP for Glasgow North, David Cairns, MP for Inverclyde and Edinburgh North & Leith MP, Mark Lazarowicz.
I also asked for info on His Lardship, Lard Foolkes from the Hoose of Lords @ foilords@parliament.
uk.
They are very helpful, even acknowledging my enquiry and promising details next week. I will of course pass on details of their sleaze
I was going to enquire about George Ryan but seemingly he never showed up at his acceptance meeting!!!!
Looks like Purcell, so its his financial details I'm after.
Might find them in HALLS OF INFAMY?????
Posted by: ditchgazza on 7:46am Sat 5 Jul 08
I can understand George Ryan's partner not wishing him to stand.
Being associated with a right wing, anti Scottish, anti working man, Thatcherite is not a good idea in the East End.
I can understand George Ryan's partner not wishing him to stand.
Being associated with a right wing, anti Scottish, anti working man, Thatcherite is not a good idea in the East End.
Posted by: Proud to be Scottish, Glasgow on 8:04am Sat 5 Jul 08
I see the nats have manged to have one story pulled from the front page already!
Steven Purcell will make an excellent member of parliament. He can be squarely credited with bringing the Commonwealth games to the city and his record for fighting for the people of Glasgow is second to none.
The SNP cannot match his solid achievements. Watch as the nats try to bring the whole campaign down to the level of the gutter. Their campaign will have three central themes:-
Oil
Talking down the people of Glasgow
Seperatism
It really does cheapen the political proocess when they engage in this sort of nonsense.
However the people of the East are no mugs (despite what the nats keep telling us). Their battling character is the embodyment of the bulldog British spirit - they will not be blown of course by empty and cheap rhetoric coming from the gnats.
They will do Scotland and Britain proud by returning the labour party and letting the government continue transforming the area.
This victory will be the beginning of the end the SNP - I for one will be raising a glass come the 25th.
I see the nats have manged to have one story pulled from the front page already!
Steven Purcell will make an excellent member of parliament. He can be squarely credited with bringing the Commonwealth games to the city and his record for fighting for the people of Glasgow is second to none.
The SNP cannot match his solid achievements. Watch as the nats try to bring the whole campaign down to the level of the gutter. Their campaign will have three central themes:-
Oil
Talking down the people of Glasgow
Seperatism
It really does cheapen the political proocess when they engage in this sort of nonsense.
However the people of the East are no mugs (despite what the nats keep telling us). Their battling character is the embodyment of the bulldog British spirit - they will not be blown of course by empty and cheap rhetoric coming from the gnats.
They will do Scotland and Britain proud by returning the labour party and letting the government continue transforming the area.
This victory will be the beginning of the end the SNP - I for one will be raising a glass come the 25th.
Posted by: Proud to be Scottish, Glasgow on 8:09am Sat 5 Jul 08
All this nonsense about the 'HALLS OF INFAMY' is borderline lible. If there is corruption lets see the proof.
Why dosen't Traquir post a link?
Why dosen't Wardog tell us where to buy one?
Why dosen't LA get a copy of one his mates in the journalism community?
Why dosen't any cybergnat show us the proof?
I'll tell you why - cause it's all nonsense.
PUT UP OR SHUT UP
All this nonsense about the 'HALLS OF INFAMY' is borderline lible. If there is corruption lets see the proof.
Why dosen't Traquir post a link?
Why dosen't Wardog tell us where to buy one?
Why dosen't LA get a copy of one his mates in the journalism community?
Why dosen't any cybergnat show us the proof?
I'll tell you why - cause it's all nonsense.
PUT UP OR SHUT UP
Posted by: gavin48, Glasgow on 8:23am Sat 5 Jul 08
oh dear, not a great start to their campaign is it.
oh dear, not a great start to their campaign is it.
Posted by: Proud to be Scottish, Glasgow on 8:23am Sat 5 Jul 08
Iv'e just googled Halls of Infamy.
Why would someone publish a book and then withdraw it from sale?
Because it's all unsubstantiated nonsense - heresay, speculation, wishful thinking, bull$hit, cobblers, hot air, make-believe. Call it what you may it all boils down to one thing - nat lies.
Iv'e just googled Halls of Infamy.
Why would someone publish a book and then withdraw it from sale?
Because it's all unsubstantiated nonsense - heresay, speculation, wishful thinking, bull$hit, cobblers, hot air, make-believe. Call it what you may it all boils down to one thing - nat lies.
Posted by: An t-Amadan, Alba on 8:30am Sat 5 Jul 08
"Unforeseen circumstances?" All very mysterious. A pending court case with a possible spell in a Large House within the constituency? I think we should be told, otherwise speculation will be rife!
"Unforeseen circumstances?" All very mysterious. A pending court case with a possible spell in a Large House within the constituency? I think we should be told, otherwise speculation will be rife!
Posted by: CJ, Aberdeen on 8:30am Sat 5 Jul 08
[quote]They will do Scotland and Britain proud by returning the labour party and letting the government continue transforming the area[/quote]
Aye they've certainly transformed the East End over the last 50 years.
Nuff said.
They will do Scotland and Britain proud by returning the labour party and letting the government continue transforming the area
Aye they've certainly transformed the East End over the last 50 years.
Nuff said.
Posted by: Alex Gordon, Glasgow on 8:35am Sat 5 Jul 08
I support no political party in this by-election but I have to laugh at "Proud to be Scottish".
You call on Traquair to put up or shut up, whilst proudy hiding behind your "nom de guerre"
You praise Stephen Purcell, a man who is currently pushing through a plan to put Direct and Care services into an arms length private company. Assaulting the terms and conditions of 10,000 Glaswegian home -helps, cleaners and carers amongst the lowest paid employees in the council and, surprise surprise a group of predominantly female workers. the tories didn't even attempt that...
I am sure Stephen Purcell would make a great Labour member of parliament, given their recent vote to preserve allowances which are 1 and a half times the average income in this constituency.
As for talking Scotland down, is that not what Labour does when it says Scotland couldn't stand on it's own two feet? When they say we rely on a subsidy from England?
I am ambivalent about whether we are independent or not, however when I listen to unionist politicians talking about Scotland's prospects standing alone I am always of Gandhi said to Mountbatten, when Mountbatten said India would suffer many mistakes in governing itself:
"Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes."
Gandhi or Purcell, I know who I look up to.
I support no political party in this by-election but I have to laugh at "Proud to be Scottish".
You call on Traquair to put up or shut up, whilst proudy hiding behind your "nom de guerre"
You praise Stephen Purcell, a man who is currently pushing through a plan to put Direct and Care services into an arms length private company. Assaulting the terms and conditions of 10,000 Glaswegian home -helps, cleaners and carers amongst the lowest paid employees in the council and, surprise surprise a group of predominantly female workers. the tories didn't even attempt that...
I am sure Stephen Purcell would make a great Labour member of parliament, given their recent vote to preserve allowances which are 1 and a half times the average income in this constituency.
As for talking Scotland down, is that not what Labour does when it says Scotland couldn't stand on it's own two feet? When they say we rely on a subsidy from England?
I am ambivalent about whether we are independent or not, however when I listen to unionist politicians talking about Scotland's prospects standing alone I am always of Gandhi said to Mountbatten, when Mountbatten said India would suffer many mistakes in governing itself:
"Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes."
Gandhi or Purcell, I know who I look up to.
Posted by: dave, north on 8:35am Sat 5 Jul 08
Rumour has it George Ryan did a runner after being told if he won Glasgow East he would get invited round to tea with Gordon Brown and Thatcher.
Rumour has it George Ryan did a runner after being told if he won Glasgow East he would get invited round to tea with Gordon Brown and Thatcher.
Posted by: bluenose, Glasgow on 8:36am Sat 5 Jul 08
PTBS obviously still making your way home from last night ,after reading your hysterical post I thought sheesh there must have been a lot of drugs at that party
PTBS obviously still making your way home from last night ,after reading your hysterical post I thought sheesh there must have been a lot of drugs at that party
Posted by: Observer, Glasgow on 8:40am Sat 5 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Proud to be Scottish[/bold] wrote:
Iv'e just googled Halls of Infamy. Why would someone publish a book and then withdraw it from sale? Because it's all unsubstantiated nonsense - heresay, speculation, wishful thinking, bull$hit, cobblers, hot air, make-believe. Call it what you may it all boils down to one thing - nat lies.[/quote] It was pulled because GCC threatened legal action but I've read it, I used to work for the Council, and I recognise a lot of what he writes about as true.
This story about Von Ryans Express being derailed by his partner rings as true as Santa Clause. He must have woken up to the fact that Labours hegemony is breaking and that his actions would be examined if he stood, hence he isn't. That speaks for itself.
The SNP are out canvassing this am, Labour don't have a candidate because they canny find one apart from....
[quote]and Doug Maughan, an airline pilot from Stirling - accepted the decision.[/quote]
Please please please make it Biggles !!!!!!!!
Proud to be Scottish wrote:
Iv'e just googled Halls of Infamy. Why would someone publish a book and then withdraw it from sale? Because it's all unsubstantiated nonsense - heresay, speculation, wishful thinking, bull$hit, cobblers, hot air, make-believe. Call it what you may it all boils down to one thing - nat lies.
It was pulled because GCC threatened legal action but I've read it, I used to work for the Council, and I recognise a lot of what he writes about as true.
This story about Von Ryans Express being derailed by his partner rings as true as Santa Clause. He must have woken up to the fact that Labours hegemony is breaking and that his actions would be examined if he stood, hence he isn't. That speaks for itself.
The SNP are out canvassing this am, Labour don't have a candidate because they canny find one apart from....
and Doug Maughan, an airline pilot from Stirling - accepted the decision.
Please please please make it Biggles !!!!!!!!
Posted by: Observer, Glasgow on 8:43am Sat 5 Jul 08
Oh please god I am an atheist but I will believe in you if it is Biggles who gets the nomination.
Oh please god I am an atheist but I will believe in you if it is Biggles who gets the nomination.
Posted by: Rev. S. Campbell, Bath on 8:43am Sat 5 Jul 08
[quote]Aye they've certainly transformed the East End over the last 50 years.[/quote]
This is typical of pathetic, ill-informed Nat sniping. What you don't understand is that Labour have been quietly and diligently working and planning over the long term for the East End, not just buying cheap votes with populist policies - give them just a few more years of power to complete their work and life expectancy there will be down below 60, thereby solving the pensions crisis.
Aye they've certainly transformed the East End over the last 50 years.
This is typical of pathetic, ill-informed Nat sniping. What you don't understand is that Labour have been quietly and diligently working and planning over the long term for the East End, not just buying cheap votes with populist policies - give them just a few more years of power to complete their work and life expectancy there will be down below 60, thereby solving the pensions crisis.
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 8:46am Sat 5 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Proud to be Scottish[/bold] wrote:
All this nonsense about the 'HALLS OF INFAMY' is borderline lible. If there is corruption lets see the proof. Why dosen't Traquir post a link? Why dosen't Wardog tell us where to buy one? Why dosen't LA get a copy of one his mates in the journalism community? Why dosen't any cybergnat show us the proof? I'll tell you why - cause it's all nonsense. PUT UP OR SHUT UP[/quote] put up or shut up ptbs is that what labour said to george ryan?
Proud to be Scottish wrote:
All this nonsense about the 'HALLS OF INFAMY' is borderline lible. If there is corruption lets see the proof. Why dosen't Traquir post a link? Why dosen't Wardog tell us where to buy one? Why dosen't LA get a copy of one his mates in the journalism community? Why dosen't any cybergnat show us the proof? I'll tell you why - cause it's all nonsense. PUT UP OR SHUT UP
put up or shut up ptbs is that what labour said to george ryan?
Posted by: Stuart Black on 8:51am Sat 5 Jul 08
Proud to be a sausage wrote:
[quote]They will do Scotland and Britain proud by returning the labour party and letting the government continue transforming the area.[/quote]
A prime example of someone who thinks that if you repeat something often enough, people will believe it, even if it is the most arrant nonsense. This is worth repeating........[italic]They will do Scotland and Britain proud.[/italic]
Know something, sausage? You're a facking cretin.
Proud to be a sausage wrote:
They will do Scotland and Britain proud by returning the labour party and letting the government continue transforming the area.
A prime example of someone who thinks that if you repeat something often enough, people will believe it, even if it is the most arrant nonsense. This is worth repeating........
They will do Scotland and Britain proud.
Know something, sausage? You're a facking cretin.
Posted by: ditchgazza on 8:51am Sat 5 Jul 08
I don't know about anybody else but I enjoy watching proud to be a knuckle dragger squirming.
I don't know about anybody else but I enjoy watching proud to be a knuckle dragger squirming.
Posted by: Observer, Glasgow on 8:51am Sat 5 Jul 08
[quote]put up or shut up ptbs is that what labour said to george ryan?[/quote]
Never mind Halls of Infamy Von Ryan could fill an entire edition of the Digger single handedly. This marks a line - by his actions he tells us that Labour know they are not protected any more.
put up or shut up ptbs is that what labour said to george ryan?
Never mind Halls of Infamy Von Ryan could fill an entire edition of the Digger single handedly. This marks a line - by his actions he tells us that Labour know they are not protected any more.
Posted by: Observer, Glasgow on 9:02am Sat 5 Jul 08
Tricia McLeish is the solidarity candidate. I've no time for Tommy but she is the genuine article, she is one of Glasgow East's own. I want Mason to win but good luck Tricia I hope people listen to what you have to say.
Tricia McLeish is the solidarity candidate. I've no time for Tommy but she is the genuine article, she is one of Glasgow East's own. I want Mason to win but good luck Tricia I hope people listen to what you have to say.
Posted by: Jimmy the Pie, Orkney on 9:04am Sat 5 Jul 08
It will have to be pointed out that New Labour Sleaze will only ever pay attention to marginal seats and ignore their 'safe' seats.
The electorate don't deserve any consideration.
As a financially and morally bankrupt party, New Labour Sleaze can be clearly seen for what they really are.
Selfish, greedy, self serving and arrogant.
Will Steven Purcell end his political 'career' by fighting a lost cause???
I don't think so. And there is the 'Halls of Infamy' which is being investigated by one of the Sundays. When that story breaks that'll be the end of the Glasgow mafia
The whole point of this election is saving Comrade Broon from humiliation, saving the Party and not giving a to$s about the electorate.
They will pay the ultimate price.
It will have to be pointed out that New Labour Sleaze will only ever pay attention to marginal seats and ignore their 'safe' seats.
The electorate don't deserve any consideration.
As a financially and morally bankrupt party, New Labour Sleaze can be clearly seen for what they really are.
Selfish, greedy, self serving and arrogant.
Will Steven Purcell end his political 'career' by fighting a lost cause???
I don't think so. And there is the 'Halls of Infamy' which is being investigated by one of the Sundays. When that story breaks that'll be the end of the Glasgow mafia
The whole point of this election is saving Comrade Broon from humiliation, saving the Party and not giving a to$s about the electorate.
They will pay the ultimate price.
Posted by: An t-Amadan, Alba on 9:07am Sat 5 Jul 08
Maybe they think there is a large untapped gay vote in the East End which Purcell will take!
Maybe they think there is a large untapped gay vote in the East End which Purcell will take!
Posted by: Proud to be Scottish, Glasgow on 9:12am Sat 5 Jul 08
[quote][bold]An t-Amadan[/bold] wrote:
Maybe they think there is a large untapped gay vote in the East End which Purcell will take![/quote] this is typical of the racist, homophobic, sexist attitude displayed by gnats
they make me sick
An t-Amadan wrote:
Maybe they think there is a large untapped gay vote in the East End which Purcell will take!
this is typical of the racist, homophobic, sexist attitude displayed by gnats
they make me sick
Posted by: Davy, Erskine on 9:14am Sat 5 Jul 08
Take a walk round to Salway Street in Dalmarnock where my father weny to school to see how they've 'Transformed the area.'
Labour in the east end of Glasgow are an utter discrace.
Take a walk round to Salway Street in Dalmarnock where my father weny to school to see how they've 'Transformed the area.'
Labour in the east end of Glasgow are an utter discrace.
Posted by: Observer, Glasgow on 9:16am Sat 5 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Proud to be Scottish[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]An t-Amadan[/bold] wrote: Maybe they think there is a large untapped gay vote in the East End which Purcell will take![/quote] this is typical of the racist, homophobic, sexist attitude displayed by gnats they make me sick[/quote] I agree with you that Purcell being gay is irrelevant. It's the fact that he wants to privatise everything he sees which is the problem for me. Where do you get racist from ? I know he's from Yoker but I don't see them as another race.
Proud to be Scottish wrote:
An t-Amadan wrote: Maybe they think there is a large untapped gay vote in the East End which Purcell will take!
this is typical of the racist, homophobic, sexist attitude displayed by gnats they make me sick
I agree with you that Purcell being gay is irrelevant. It's the fact that he wants to privatise everything he sees which is the problem for me. Where do you get racist from ? I know he's from Yoker but I don't see them as another race.
Posted by: ryeoman, fife on 9:18am Sat 5 Jul 08
The people in Glasgow East can have the pleasure of asking the labour big guns why they voted to keep their noses in the trough. Oink Oink.
The people in Glasgow East can have the pleasure of asking the labour big guns why they voted to keep their noses in the trough. Oink Oink.
Posted by: themunnster, Hamilton on 9:19am Sat 5 Jul 08
Quite apart from Cllr Ryan'soposition to the National Anthem and the Union Flag, I believe he is also carrying some political "baggage" following previous disciplinary action taken against him by the Liebour Party.
Quite apart from Cllr Ryan'soposition to the National Anthem and the Union Flag, I believe he is also carrying some political "baggage" following previous disciplinary action taken against him by the Liebour Party.
Posted by: themunnster, Hamilton on 9:22am Sat 5 Jul 08
PS: Imanaged to get "Halls of Infamy" from Waterstones in Sauchiehall Street. Borders Books had removed it from sale, the cowards.
PS: Imanaged to get "Halls of Infamy" from Waterstones in Sauchiehall Street. Borders Books had removed it from sale, the cowards.
Posted by: Astonished, Inverclyde on 9:27am Sat 5 Jul 08
"[bold]perhaps their latest cunning ploy is for the SNP
to die laughing " -[/bold] Traquair
Great comment - labour are skint but "Mugabe" brown needs to do everything in his power to win this one. Thus Brown is wishing everyone involved in the labour campaign his very best wishes - Luckily for the SNP he is the kiss of death !
Ptbs (pee the bed Sanny?) - labour made the decision for a speedy election and it is now obvious that this was the wrong decision for them. Hung by their own petard - A bit like the crooked wendy's story don't you think ? (I was feeling so sorry for ptbs that I thought I would feed the troll)
"
perhaps their latest cunning ploy is for the SNP
to die laughing " - Traquair
Great comment - labour are skint but "Mugabe" brown needs to do everything in his power to win this one. Thus Brown is wishing everyone involved in the labour campaign his very best wishes - Luckily for the SNP he is the kiss of death !
Ptbs (pee the bed Sanny?) - labour made the decision for a speedy election and it is now obvious that this was the wrong decision for them. Hung by their own petard - A bit like the crooked wendy's story don't you think ? (I was feeling so sorry for ptbs that I thought I would feed the troll)
Posted by: Mike MacKinnon on 9:30am Sat 5 Jul 08
I'm amazed at how far Scotland has come in one year! Here we have a 'safe' Labore seat that hasn't a candidate because the party members are feart that their political career will be over before it starts! So who will Labore field if the intelligent candidates say 'no?' Step forward the usual Labore muppet with less brains than a haggis! Someone like Ptbs, in fact!
Step into the breach Ptbs! Walk round the streets of Glasgow East telling all the people you meet that you're a unionist and are out to save them from being Scottish!
Put up or shut up!
I'm amazed at how far Scotland has come in one year! Here we have a 'safe' Labore seat that hasn't a candidate because the party members are feart that their political career will be over before it starts! So who will Labore field if the intelligent candidates say 'no?' Step forward the usual Labore muppet with less brains than a haggis! Someone like Ptbs, in fact!
Step into the breach Ptbs! Walk round the streets of Glasgow East telling all the people you meet that you're a unionist and are out to save them from being Scottish!
Put up or shut up!
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 9:33am Sat 5 Jul 08
The Munster[quote]Borders Books had removed it from sale, the cowards.[/quote] Borders, an American company, has removed the vast majority of its hardbacks in order to sell paperbacks. It has trashed its stores.
The Munster
Borders Books had removed it from sale, the cowards.
Borders, an American company, has removed the vast majority of its hardbacks in order to sell paperbacks. It has trashed its stores.
Posted by: Astonished, Inverclyde on 9:36am Sat 5 Jul 08
Proud to be Scottish wrote:
An t-Amadan wrote: Maybe they think there is a large untapped gay vote in the East End which Purcell will take!
this is typical of the racist, homophobic, sexist attitude displayed by gnats they make me sick
[quote]quote[/quote]
Purcell is openly gay (frankly I don't care) however An t-Adaman is not making an anti-gay point, he was being humerous.
You, ptbs, on the other hand, like many numpties are terrified that ordinary unthinking labour voters will start to care about the orientation of labour's candidates - And would thus prefer that this swept, and kept, under the carpet.
Purcell appears to be an able politico (for a numpty) thus I am sure he will avoid this poisoned chalice.
Proud to be Scottish wrote:
An t-Amadan wrote: Maybe they think there is a large untapped gay vote in the East End which Purcell will take!
this is typical of the racist, homophobic, sexist attitude displayed by gnats they make me sick
quote
Purcell is openly gay (frankly I don't care) however An t-Adaman is not making an anti-gay point, he was being humerous.
You, ptbs, on the other hand, like many numpties are terrified that ordinary unthinking labour voters will start to care about the orientation of labour's candidates - And would thus prefer that this swept, and kept, under the carpet.
Purcell appears to be an able politico (for a numpty) thus I am sure he will avoid this poisoned chalice.
Posted by: Observer, Glasgow on 9:40am Sat 5 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Los Angeles[/bold] wrote:
The Munster[quote]Borders Books had removed it from sale, the cowards.[/quote] Borders, an American company, has removed the vast majority of its hardbacks in order to sell paperbacks. It has trashed its stores.[/quote] I think people making comments about this book being withdrawn are making the mistake of thinking that we live in a free country with free speech. We don't.
Los Angeles wrote:
The MunsterBorders Books had removed it from sale, the cowards.
Borders, an American company, has removed the vast majority of its hardbacks in order to sell paperbacks. It has trashed its stores.
I think people making comments about this book being withdrawn are making the mistake of thinking that we live in a free country with free speech. We don't.
Posted by: kilomike, Lower Greenwich, CA on 9:43am Sat 5 Jul 08
Since london, as always, knows EVERYTHING, let THEM parachute in a candidate, how about a candidate that has NEVER been north of watford, speaks in a south london dialect. Perfect choice. Does not matter male or female, black or white, select this candidate!!
Then the country can start counting the days, before labour will be but a memory.... a painful memory!
Remember london knows everything!
Since london, as always, knows EVERYTHING, let THEM parachute in a candidate, how about a candidate that has NEVER been north of watford, speaks in a south london dialect. Perfect choice. Does not matter male or female, black or white, select this candidate!!
Then the country can start counting the days, before labour will be but a memory.... a painful memory!
Remember london knows everything!
Posted by: Proud to be Scottish, Glasgow on 10:05am Sat 5 Jul 08
My word it really does stir things up for the gants if someone comes on these boards with a different view!
Anyway, I'm off for a day in Ballieston knocking on doors and keeping Scotland fair and decent for all.
My word it really does stir things up for the gants if someone comes on these boards with a different view!
Anyway, I'm off for a day in Ballieston knocking
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