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Glaswegians think its clever and macho to be pisssed all the time. What a bunch of barbarians. There must be an alcoholic living in every street in the west coast of Scotland. You dont see this savage behaviour in Italy or France. The drinking age in America is 21. Sober up for God's sake.

Wullie's right. You never see a drunk in Aberdeen or Italy or France. Never happens.

Or in the USA.

Kiera Hardie And you never, ever see paralytic French drunks wrecking cities like Manchester. It just doesnt happen.

Something needs to be done on this issue, but raising the price of booze will make no difference, whose going to benefit from the extra cash booze will cost. Is it to be a raise in the cost of all alcohol or just alcopops, strong ciders,etc,etc. If it is just alcopops type booze wont this be illegal. Availability of alcohol would be a better road to go down.

This is a problem across the uk Surely a minimum price per unit of alchohol that a can or bottle contains is the way ahead rather than targetting specific drinks

If Kenny is carefully looking at the prices then we can be certain of a price decrease. 3 for the price of one. Rock on Kenny. If you collapse again on a London Street fue of the bevvy I will pick you up.[bold]bold[/bold]

YES! At least part of your society is looking at the evil of alcohol rather than turning a blind eye and "bottoms up". It's a first step, but the ultimate goal is to ban all alcoholic production, sales, possession, and consumption in the UK. Do you know the monetary and social costs of this, the most dangerous drug in the world?

Glasgow + Booze = Manchester wrecked Need I say more.

It's pretty obvious that the Justice Secretary has been reading my comments. His quote is almost word for word a quote from me a few weeks ago. Well done, Justice Secretary. Instead of putting a minimum pricing on it, effectively classism, as the real problem drinkers today are the middle and upper classes, you need to put mandatory maximum amounts of alcohol you can purchase in a given time period. The best alternative to Prohibition, which is the best solution to this, is people being issued "Alcohol Cards". What these are are licenses to purchase alcohol. They are electronically monitored, and you could set limits on them. Perhaps a 3 drink maximum purchase limit per day, 10 drink maximum purchase limit per week, etc. Without the card you would not be allowed to purchase this, the most evil drug in the world. Keep up the good work, Justice Secretary. You are doing your title proud.

My question is WHERE IS THE CHURCH? You have the NHS and the Justice Department speaking out against the dangers of alcohol. Where is the Church? Lazy sods.

LOL at the most widely spread myth of French, Italian, and Spanish "moderaton". They are under the impression that if you drink just a small amount at meals and the children grow up around it that there will never be a serious drink problem within society. I guess these FOOLS don't read the Spanish, French and Italian papers. They continue to spread the lies as these nations' health and justice systems warn of the increasing problem alcohol is causing their respective nations. Alcohol is bad. Period.

''My question is WHERE IS THE CHURCH?'' Too busy molesting kids.

[quote][bold]Wullie[/bold] wrote: Glasgow + Booze = Manchester wrecked Need I say more.[/quote] Wullie ,Barricade yer hoose,the Gers fans are coming tae Eberdeen. Rangers fans will swamp Eberdeen for the last game of the season. Hope you make them feel welcome.

Stevie, this joker is a real piece of work I thought you were amusing for about a minute and a half, bit like a cat that toys with a little mouse. But Im bored with your constant squeaking.Give us all peace, son and smoke some pot.

[quote][bold]Wullie[/bold] wrote: Stevie, this joker is a real piece of work I thought you were amusing for about a minute and a half, bit like a cat that toys with a little mouse. But Im bored with your constant squeaking.Give us all peace, son and smoke some pot. [/quote] Wullie ,since you raised the subject of pot. It's time you got of yours and finished painting that lavvy you've been harping on about. And before you get all flushed ,I'm off to bed,G'nite Wullbert.

Strvie says ''the Gers fans are coming tae Eberdeen. Rangers fans will swamp Eberdeen for the last game of the season. Hope you make them feel welcome.'' I hope the Aberdeen police gives the rangers neds a warm welcome, water cannon and plastic bullets, well the soap dodgers need a good washing. Its a pity the police dont carry flamethrowers though.

Well the Scottish fishing fleet have had their incomes reduced for years. So why can't a simple system of QUOTAS be introduced for the sale of alcohol, ok businesses will suffer however the supermarkets could reduce or remove alcohol from their shelves thus enabling small business to continue, preferably in the guise of off sales.

soloman,12:13am. Quotas is a great idea. Just like wartime rationing. I would not mind as my Mrs does not bevvy. So she could claim her quota and I could drink it. No one would ever know. Maybe Kenny is in the same boat![bold]bold[/bold]

Pricing restrictions in Scotland? Great. And the added benefit of lots of border guard jobs to stop people buying ordinary priced booze at all the cash and carries that will spring up in Carlisle and Berwick and points in between. Ah - border guards... I can see why this would appeal to the nationalist mindset.

What would help to stem underage drinking is when you've just been asked if you will buy drink for them at the local shop to phone the police on the local number and inform them of this. If the police are called enough times they will put resource into this and simply put the kids will not hang around a shop when nobody is buying for them. However, with cctv and the risk to the buyer of embarrassment in the local paper and a fine AND having to explain to your work why you need the day off is it worth it. With regards to the shopkeeper again the bad publicity of this being in the paper and worse for them their offsales licence being revoked. With mobile phones and the individual being further from the shop the teenagers do not even need to know who it was that shopped them. A high percentage of kids who are drunk either instigate or are challenged to fight sometimes with tragic circumstances. Do the right thing here and stop buying it. With regards to alcohol pricing I agree it should be closer to what the pubs (ban discounting and special promotions) are charging for alcohol. It makes you wonder when there is now clear medical evidence that drinking whilst young affects your memory when older should our pubs and clubs be allowed to advertise to teenagers and students. These are the people who are going to keep the economy going but with all the cheap drink they are not going to be firing on all cylinders. After being in Newcastle I watched a guy pulled out of a taxi by ten teenagers and almost being beaten to a pulp through drink. I wanted to help but was told not to get involved or I would have joined this guy in hospital. This incident put me off drinking myself so much I didn't touch it for nine months. It was hard at the beginning but you know what after a while it didn't faze me. The bonus now is that I can go out and depending on the company or my mood can choose to either drink fresh orange and lemonade or have vodka and diet coke. But one thing thats different these days is when I do drink alcohol I drink in moderation. More people are finding out that drinking in moderation, waking up the next morning without a hangover and not feeling like **** means you can still do something on a Sunday without having to be in your bed suffering till early afternoon. The only way that drink will become less of a problem in Scotland is for the people of Scotland to change and drink in moderation or find something else to do. But here in itself lies a problem there is not enough entertainment - that needs to be addressed. I can remember during the 1980's that more people seemed to smoke than didn't here in Dundee - it wasn't the case but it seemed so. Now it has completely reversed and I agree with the smoking ban in public places. Now what is happening is this is having an effect on pubs and they are closing for various reasons. In my opinion pubs that sit on their laurels and do not offer other ways to bring people in will die out in time anyway. But the real problem is that there are far too many licences in Scotland issued for public houses so the more pubs that close the less people that are able to smoke outside them hence less problems with peoples health. In time as many of our kids today no longer smoke, if we as adults start making an example and drink in moderation and not show them how cool it is to drink, then have a hangover or feel like **** then the problem of binge drinking will go the same way. In turn by us as adults starting to show an example now your kids and their kids will be more tolerant and mindful of alcohol. The extra taxes gained from price increases should go to prevention measures such as education programmes in secondary schools. I read with interest the posting about electronic cards monitoring our drinking level - it is a good idea however we shouldn't need to do this if people would only make the decision themselves.

Kenny tells us that we are paying too little for booze, more like it if he tells us that we are paying too much for everything else and does something about that instead!

Another moot point....the current Legislation makes it an offence to serve someone who is already drunk! Enforce the bloody law then....start locking up / fining / shutting down for 30 days at a time those responsible for serving punters that are already hammered and very soon we don't have a problem!! Big queue of nightclub owners complaining....big deal!

[quote][bold]Wullie[/bold] wrote: Glasgow + Booze = Manchester wrecked Need I say more.[/quote] Please don't.

Was listening to the radio a few weeks ago,they were on about upping the cost of having a drinks licence. The publicans were on about how an extra £125 quid could bust them. During the show, a chip shop owner phoned in and slated the publicans. Apparently it costs considerably more to have a licence for a chip shop than it does for a pub.

Stevie How much for a licensed chip shop?

[quote][bold]Wullie[/bold] wrote: Kiera Hardie And you never, ever see paralytic French drunks wrecking cities like Manchester. It just doesnt happen.[/quote] [quote]And you never, ever see paralytic French drunks wrecking cities like Manchester.[/quote] Do they wreck cities that aren't like Manchester?

[quote][bold]Wullie[/bold] wrote: Kiera Hardie And you never, ever see paralytic French drunks wrecking cities like Manchester. It just doesnt happen.[/quote] [quote]And you never, ever see paralytic French drunks wrecking cities like Manchester.[/quote] Do they wreck cities that aren't like Manchester?

[quote][bold]Wullie[/bold] wrote: Kiera Hardie And you never, ever see paralytic French drunks wrecking cities like Manchester. It just doesnt happen.[/quote] [quote]And you never, ever see paralytic French drunks wrecking cities like Manchester.[/quote] Do they wreck cities that aren't like Manchester?

[quote][bold]Wullie[/bold] wrote: Kiera Hardie And you never, ever see paralytic French drunks wrecking cities like Manchester. It just doesnt happen.[/quote] [quote]And you never, ever see paralytic French drunks wrecking cities like Manchester.[/quote] Do they wreck cities that aren't like Manchester?

[quote][bold]Alkie[/bold] wrote: My question is WHERE IS THE CHURCH? You have the NHS and the Justice Department speaking out against the dangers of alcohol. Where is the Church? Lazy sods. [/quote] The church, of whatever hue is being irelevant to society, keep up the good work

Whoops sorry for the 4 x posting, wait until I learn the 12x table :o)

there is no need to raise prices. just enforce the already existing laws. simple I remember in the 80's someone I knew was caught buying alcohol underage for him and a friend. The shop lost it's license, the person buying the drink was fined. Easy

[quote][bold]Wullie[/bold] wrote: Glasgow + Booze = Manchester wrecked Need I say more.[/quote] Wullie Take your sanctimonious attitudes somewhere else and give us peace. Coming from Aberdeen you're in no position to get po-faced about it.

Yeh, look at the cost of alcohol, I cannae afford to buy as much as I can drink. Come on Kenny, lower the prices. Or, even better, make it part of the NHS and we can all get subsciptions to go for a bevvy! But seriously, it's not the cost of alcohol that's causing Scottish society to rupture, it's the massive oppresion we've had to endure for all these years since Thatcher. We widnae be on benefits if we could get a jobe, now wid we? So, let's drink tae ma health; every day is new year here!

Kenny MacAskill is going to change the culture of Scotland and, by doing it, change the way Scots drink. Good luck with that. Pride goeth before a fall, Kenny.

This guys a muppet!!, why should I pay more because the retards can't handle alcohol.

I'm on a roll now....what about the high prices of gas, oil, electricity, bread, milk...etc, etc, etc. If McKaskill is looking for something to occupy his time in his little empire he could always try to do something about pensioners dying of cold or doing without food because of greedy corporations...no I thought so too bloody hard.