Speaker Michael Martin in the clear over wife's taxi journeys
Speaker Michael Martin was today told that the Parliamentary sleaze watchdog has dismissed a complaint about taxi journeys taken by his wife at public expense.
Standards Commissioner John Lyon said the more than £4000 spent by Mary Martin was "reasonable" and within the rules.
The House of Commons Standards and Privileges Committee backed the decision to disregard the concerns of the TaxPayers' Alliance.
In a memorandum, Mr Lyon said £4139.17 had been spent on taxis by Mrs Martin over four years, mainly for shopping trips, and claimed back on expenses.
"The journeys taken met the necessary requirements of Mr Speaker to assist him in carrying out his official duties," he said in a memorandum to the Standards Committee.
"Taking account of the requirements and the cost of alternative provision, the costs were not excessive."
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Posted by: Wallace, Perth on 12:05pm Wed 14 May 08
Yet another whitewash decision, an in-house inquiry clearing one of its own. Can't MP's understand that this is the type of decision which makes them figures of contempt by the public because of their greed and snouts-in-the-trough behaviour?
Why couldn't Speaker Martin have paid for these taxi journeys for his wife's shopping out of his considerable salary? He could well afford to do so. That is the point here, not whether or not it contravenes MP's "rules" - made up by MP's for the benefit of MP's.
Yet another whitewash decision, an in-house inquiry clearing one of its own. Can't MP's understand that this is the type of decision which makes them figures of contempt by the public because of their greed and snouts-in-the-trough behaviour?
Why couldn't Speaker Martin have paid for these taxi journeys for his wife's shopping out of his considerable salary? He could well afford to do so. That is the point here, not whether or not it contravenes MP's "rules" - made up by MP's for the benefit of MP's.
Posted by: Meep, Shawlands on 12:12pm Wed 14 May 08
Is this the same Michael Martin who has obstructed journalists at every turn in their quest to find out MP's expenses? and who spent tax payers money to hire lawyers to obstruct the said journalists? Westminster is a brothel.
Is this the same Michael Martin who has obstructed journalists at every turn in their quest to find out MP's expenses? and who spent tax payers money to hire lawyers to obstruct the said journalists? Westminster is a brothel.
Posted by: Duns Scotus, The Borders on 12:18pm Wed 14 May 08
[quote]The House of Commons Standards and Privileges Committee backed the decision to disregard the concerns of the TaxPayers' Alliance[/quote] Oh what a surprise!
The House of Commons Standards and Privileges Committee backed the decision to disregard the concerns of the TaxPayers' Alliance
Oh what a surprise!
Posted by: ex labour voter, glasgow on 12:37pm Wed 14 May 08
The liebour scum have free access to public funds to spend as they see fit. DISGUSTING PIGS.
The liebour scum have free access to public funds to spend as they see fit. DISGUSTING PIGS.
Posted by: azg, Glasgow G21 on 1:04pm Wed 14 May 08
What, for goodness' sake, is "reasonable" about this Mrs. Martin using £4000 [bold]that isn't hers[/bold] to pay for taxis to take her shopping?
Can I have that too, please? Can all of us?
Ridiculous!
What, for goodness' sake, is "reasonable" about this Mrs. Martin using £4000
that isn't hers to pay for taxis to take her shopping?
Can I have that too, please? Can all of us?
Ridiculous!
Posted by: Ronald, Glasgow on 1:06pm Wed 14 May 08
And the standards expected of those in public life rachets down
to a new low.
NEW-LABOUR, whiter than white? Don't make me sick !
And the standards expected of those in public life rachets down
to a new low.
NEW-LABOUR, whiter than white? Don't make me sick !
Posted by: Ronald, Glasgow on 1:06pm Wed 14 May 08
And the standards expected of those in public life rachets down
to a new low.
NEW-LABOUR, whiter than white? Don't make me sick !
And the standards expected of those in public life rachets down
to a new low.
NEW-LABOUR, whiter than white? Don't make me sick !
Posted by: Ronald, Glasgow on 1:07pm Wed 14 May 08
And the standards expected of those in public life rachets down
to a new low.
NEW-LABOUR, whiter than white? Don't make me sick !
And the standards expected of those in public life rachets down
to a new low.
NEW-LABOUR, whiter than white? Don't make me sick !
Posted by: scappaflow, RoS on 1:08pm Wed 14 May 08
Really what is the point of having these enquiries. They are a bigger waste of money than the infringements in the 1st place.
May as well give every MP £100,000 a year (or whatever the average is) and tell them no expenses and save themselves the admin and enquiry costs.
Really what is the point of having these enquiries. They are a bigger waste of money than the infringements in the 1st place.
May as well give every MP £100,000 a year (or whatever the average is) and tell them no expenses and save themselves the admin and enquiry costs.
Posted by: Politically-incorrec
t Man, Glasgow on 1:10pm Wed 14 May 08
It is plain that they will not find anyone guilty as they are all guilty to some degree.
I accept that people will "screw" any system but when "the wife" is also dipping the tax-payers' pocket it only sereves to confirm that they are all "at it" and feel they are immune to censure.
Cynical theiving b'stards!
It is plain that they will not find anyone guilty as they are all guilty to some degree.
I accept that people will "screw" any system but when "the wife" is also dipping the tax-payers' pocket it only sereves to confirm that they are all "at it" and feel they are immune to censure.
Cynical theiving b'stards!
Posted by: george alexander, north lanarkshire on 1:12pm Wed 14 May 08
Why is this a headline, it is the norm for these people to be 'cleared' despite the evidence.
The headline you'll never see though, despite there being no evidence whatsoever is:
[bold]SALMOND CLEARED OF ANY IMPROPRIETY OVER TRUMP[/bold]
Coupled with The Herald's censorship of comments on Scottish political articles (predicted by me a couple of weeks ago !!!) is a sudden emergence of 1707 Union articles. Were these ready to be published after last years election and put on ice? Can anyone shed any light on their timely appearance? Is it related to the disintegration of Labour North and South of the border.
It is puzzling if nothing else.
Why is this a headline, it is the norm for these people to be 'cleared' despite the evidence.
The headline you'll never see though, despite there being no evidence whatsoever is:
SALMOND CLEARED OF ANY IMPROPRIETY OVER TRUMP
Coupled with The Herald's censorship of comments on Scottish political articles (predicted by me a couple of weeks ago !!!) is a sudden emergence of 1707 Union articles. Were these ready to be published after last years election and put on ice? Can anyone shed any light on their timely appearance? Is it related to the disintegration of Labour North and South of the border.
It is puzzling if nothing else.
Posted by: Exiled Aussie, Banff on 1:15pm Wed 14 May 08
Pathetic creatures these [bold]TARTA N TORIES[/bold] here.
Whenever anyone is cleared of an alleged offence, its a "stich-up "
Wonder what they'll say when the report is oui on the Nat MSP for Ochil's little scam !
Pathetic creatures these
TARTA N TORIES here.
Whenever anyone is cleared of an alleged offence, its a "stich-up "
Wonder what they'll say when the report is oui on the Nat MSP for Ochil's little scam !
Posted by: george alexander, north lanarkshire on 1:33pm Wed 14 May 08
'TARTA N TORIES' ? .........your thumb is going too fast for your brain 'Hamish'..........sl
ow down a bit.
Anyway, just to let you all know that the good old BBC has yet another Trumper on its Scottish news site..............po
litics section of course.
'TARTA N TORIES' ? .........your thumb is going too fast for your brain 'Hamish'..........sl
ow down a bit.
Anyway, just to let you all know that the good old BBC has yet another Trumper on its Scottish news site..............po
litics section of course.
Posted by: Graham, Glasgow on 1:34pm Wed 14 May 08
They have proved they are tartan tories. Hang em and Flog em, guilty until proved innocent but must still be guilty. Heard this for decades from the tory racist anti-working class scum. Gorbals Mick is Free. Whats wrong you SNP lot is it because he kicks with his left foot![bold]bold[/bold]
They have proved they are tartan tories. Hang em and Flog em, guilty until proved innocent but must still be guilty. Heard this for decades from the tory racist anti-working class scum. Gorbals Mick is Free. Whats wrong you SNP lot is it because he kicks with his left foot!
Posted by: Free Thinker, North Lanarkshire on 1:34pm Wed 14 May 08
[bold] £4000.00[/bold]
Thats a nice holiday for a family of four in the Canaries...
£4000.00
Thats a nice holiday for a family of four in the Canaries...
Posted by: GML, right here on 1:44pm Wed 14 May 08
Is anyone surprised by this? Cheer up, that's why we have democracy. These rascals have to answer to the people at the ballot box.
Is anyone surprised by this? Cheer up, that's why we have democracy. These rascals have to answer to the people at the ballot box.
Posted by: Toophingers, Bellshill. on 1:44pm Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]Exiled Aussie[/bold] wrote:
Pathetic creatures these [bold]TARTA N TORIES[/bold] here. Whenever anyone is cleared of an alleged offence, its a "stich-up " Wonder what they'll say when the report is oui on the Nat MSP for Ochil's little scam ![/quote] May I ask the pretend Australian why it was wrong for the leader of the Holyrood real [bold]Tartan Tories[/bold] to mis-use taxpayer's money for non-political purposes but alright for Gorbals Mick's missus.
PS. Please note for your next pathetic post my correct spelling of Tartan Tories, of stitch-up and that I don't parade my knowledge of French.
Exiled Aussie wrote:
Pathetic creatures these TARTA N TORIES here. Whenever anyone is cleared of an alleged offence, its a "stich-up " Wonder what they'll say when the report is oui on the Nat MSP for Ochil's little scam !
May I ask the pretend Australian why it was wrong for the leader of the Holyrood real
Tartan Tories to mis-use taxpayer's money for non-political purposes but alright for Gorbals Mick's missus.
PS. Please note for your next pathetic post my correct spelling of Tartan Tories, of stitch-up and that I don't parade my knowledge of French.
Posted by: azg on 1:45pm Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote:
They have proved they are tartan tories. Hang em and Flog em, guilty until proved innocent but must still be guilty. Heard this for decades from the tory racist anti-working class scum. Gorbals Mick is Free. Whats wrong you SNP lot is it because he kicks with his left foot![bold]bold[/bold] [/quote] Ahem no. I thought it was bad enough to be "represented" by a Martin dynasty, but it really is beyond ridiculous to have the completely unelected Mrs. Martin using public money.
Perhaps I could get take a taxi up to his next surgery on "expenses". No, I don't think so, somehow.
I don't know or care what foot he kicks with.
"Tory racist anti-working class"? Aye right, that describes us who live in Sighthill completely. Of course it does. :rolleyes: What planet are you from?
Graham wrote:
They have proved they are tartan tories. Hang em and Flog em, guilty until proved innocent but must still be guilty. Heard this for decades from the tory racist anti-working class scum. Gorbals Mick is Free. Whats wrong you SNP lot is it because he kicks with his left foot!
Ahem no. I thought it was bad enough to be "represented" by a Martin dynasty, but it really is beyond ridiculous to have the completely unelected Mrs. Martin using public money.
Perhaps I could get take a taxi up to his next surgery on "expenses". No, I don't think so, somehow.
I don't know or care what foot he kicks with.
"Tory racist anti-working class"? Aye right, that describes us who live in Sighthill completely. Of course it does. :rolleyes: What planet are you from?
Posted by: David Alexander, Affshore on 1:51pm Wed 14 May 08
I think that the Standard's Commissioner deserves the highest praise for his decision, especially for announcing it a week before the Crewe and Nantwich by election.
After all, this poor woman was only shopping for ermine, which is vital if her husband is to carry out his socialist mission to protect vulnerable weans and nyaffs.
If any other goods such as beluga caviare or truffles were purchased at the same time then, it must be pointed out, this was unintentional.
This announcement will bring to an end the candlit vigil which has been taking place in Springburn while the unfortunate Mrs Martin has been under investigation.
I think that the Standard's Commissioner deserves the highest praise for his decision, especially for announcing it a week before the Crewe and Nantwich by election.
After all, this poor woman was only shopping for ermine, which is vital if her husband is to carry out his socialist mission to protect vulnerable weans and nyaffs.
If any other goods such as beluga caviare or truffles were purchased at the same time then, it must be pointed out, this was unintentional.
This announcement will bring to an end the candlit vigil which has been taking place in Springburn while the unfortunate Mrs Martin has been under investigation.
Posted by: tom, europe on 1:51pm Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]Exiled Aussie[/bold] wrote:
Pathetic creatures these [bold]TARTA N TORIES[/bold] here. Whenever anyone is cleared of an alleged offence, its a "stich-up " Wonder what they'll say when the report is oui on the Nat MSP for Ochil's little scam ![/quote] Just go back to Oz.
Exiled Aussie wrote:
Pathetic creatures these TARTA N TORIES here. Whenever anyone is cleared of an alleged offence, its a "stich-up " Wonder what they'll say when the report is oui on the Nat MSP for Ochil's little scam !
Just go back to Oz.
Posted by: David Alexander, Affshore, enjoying the show on 2:00pm Wed 14 May 08
I wonder if the Taxman is paying attention?
Taxi for Martin!
I wonder if the Taxman is paying attention?
Taxi for Martin!
Posted by: Graham, Glasgow on 2:04pm Wed 14 May 08
azg,1:45. And whats wrong with Sighthill and the good Glesga people that live there![bold]bold[/bold]
azg,1:45. And whats wrong with Sighthill and the good Glesga people that live there!
Posted by: ex labour voter, glasgow on 2:22pm Wed 14 May 08
Another day another sham from the liebour spongers.
I suppose Broon had to hammer the low paid to pay for all his little piggies to keep their snouts in the trough.
Grunt, grunt, oink.
These pigs will attack the trough with a vengence knowing they will be out on theit fat lazy erses when Bottler Broon THE LIAR finlaly finds the guts to call an election.
Martin will go down in history as the worst speaker ever along with Brown as the worst and hopefully the last pm.
Independence is the only option for Scotland.
Another day another sham from the liebour spongers.
I suppose Broon had to hammer the low paid to pay for all his little piggies to keep their snouts in the trough.
Grunt, grunt, oink.
These pigs will attack the trough with a vengence knowing they will be out on theit fat lazy erses when Bottler Broon THE LIAR finlaly finds the guts to call an election.
Martin will go down in history as the worst speaker ever along with Brown as the worst and hopefully the last pm.
Independence is the only option for Scotland.
Posted by: chris walker, west kilbride on 2:39pm Wed 14 May 08
There are a couple of phrases, nay aphorisms, come to mind here:
1. "Ye couldnae make it up" and
2. "Parody died the day Henry Kissinger won the Nobel Peace Prize" - naw it didnae!
There are a couple of phrases, nay aphorisms, come to mind here:
1. "Ye couldnae make it up" and
2. "Parody died the day Henry Kissinger won the Nobel Peace Prize" - naw it didnae!
Posted by: Graham, Glasgow on 2:53pm Wed 14 May 08
CW, 2:39PM. It always was a strange name, Peace Prize. What Peace! Maybe bombing Hanoi![bold]bold[/bold]
CW, 2:39PM. It always was a strange name, Peace Prize. What Peace! Maybe bombing Hanoi!
Posted by: princess-fiona, eaglesham on 2:55pm Wed 14 May 08
Well...as a pagan I dont care what foot MM kicks with ....
but I do care that his wife spent 4000 pound of tax payers money on taxis ...how is that reasonable....
Especially since I cant claim the money i pay in hospital parking charges in tax relief....
labour are making a mokery of themselves
Well...as a pagan I dont care what foot MM kicks with ....
but I do care that his wife spent 4000 pound of tax payers money on taxis ...how is that reasonable....
Especially since I cant claim the money i pay in hospital parking charges in tax relief....
labour are making a mokery of themselves
Posted by: beckypumps1, fife on 3:21pm Wed 14 May 08
Due to the risks of manual handleing (over full bags etc)maybe she should shop on line. I belive tesco will do free home delivery or is it iceland. with the saving she could buy some extra stamps,pens and paper just in case hubby runs out. This would save us loads.
Some people have no shame.
Due to the risks of manual handleing (over full bags etc)maybe she should shop on line. I belive tesco will do free home delivery or is it iceland. with the saving she could buy some extra stamps,pens and paper just in case hubby runs out. This would save us loads.
Some people have no shame.
Posted by: Sam, somewhereelse on 3:25pm Wed 14 May 08
You all know what I think of the whole Martin family... This, however, does not surprise me of the Labour spin commision. Disgraceful. [bold]PIGS AT THE TROUGH[/bold] .
You all know what I think of the whole Martin family... This, however, does not surprise me of the Labour spin commision. Disgraceful.
PIGS AT THE TROUGH .
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 3:30pm Wed 14 May 08
I always found it most interesting that the nobel peace prize was the idea of the guy who invented dynamite.
I always found it most interesting that the nobel peace prize was the idea of the guy who invented dynamite.
Posted by: Sam, somewhereelse on 3:52pm Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]beckypumps1[/bold] wrote:
Due to the risks of manual handleing (over full bags etc)maybe she should shop on line. I belive tesco will do free home delivery or is it iceland. with the saving she could buy some extra stamps,pens and paper just in case hubby runs out. This would save us loads. Some people have no shame.[/quote] None of the Martins have any shame. The whole Martin family are the same.... Alex and Owen Jr.... You know who I am.
beckypumps1 wrote:
Due to the risks of manual handleing (over full bags etc)maybe she should shop on line. I belive tesco will do free home delivery or is it iceland. with the saving she could buy some extra stamps,pens and paper just in case hubby runs out. This would save us loads. Some people have no shame.
None of the Martins have any shame. The whole Martin family are the same.... Alex and Owen Jr.... You know who I am.
Posted by: David Alexander, Affshore, but still paying attention on 3:55pm Wed 14 May 08
I am a little concerned at the amount of abuse that is being heaped on our porcine friends.
What on earth have pigs done to be associated with the dross that represent us on behalf of the New Labour (sic) project?
Not to worry, my little truffle hounds, it will soon all be over and we can just write it all off as a bad dream.
I am a little concerned at the amount of abuse that is being heaped on our porcine friends.
What on earth have pigs done to be associated with the dross that represent us on behalf of the New Labour (sic) project?
Not to worry, my little truffle hounds, it will soon all be over and we can just write it all off as a bad dream.
Posted by: Sam, somewhereelse on 3:58pm Wed 14 May 08
For any number of idiotic reasons we are not allowed to comment on the UEFA cup final and Rangers' participation. Good luck to Rangers. It is noted on the radio (radio2 bbc) this morning that this is a great event for 'British' football hopes. I wait with anticipation to hear the Champions League final to be announced in the same way.... Or do you think that will be tagged 'English' football?
For any number of idiotic reasons we are not allowed to comment on the UEFA cup final and Rangers' participation. Good luck to Rangers. It is noted on the radio (radio2 bbc) this morning that this is a great event for 'British' football hopes. I wait with anticipation to hear the Champions League final to be announced in the same way.... Or do you think that will be tagged 'English' football?
Posted by: teamdroid on 4:04pm Wed 14 May 08
Herald's clearly getting it's front-runner for the "least surprising political news story of the year" award in early, it seems.
Herald's clearly getting it's front-runner for the "least surprising political news story of the year" award in early, it seems.
Posted by: Exiled Aussie, Banff on 4:07pm Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]Toophingers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Exiled Aussie[/bold] wrote: Pathetic creatures these [bold]TARTA N TORIES[/bold] here. Whenever anyone is cleared of an alleged offence, its a "stich-up " Wonder what they'll say when the report is oui on the Nat MSP for Ochil's little scam ![/quote] May I ask the pretend Australian why it was wrong for the leader of the Holyrood real [bold]Tartan Tories[/bold] to mis-use taxpayer's money for non-political purposes but alright for Gorbals Mick's missus. PS. Please note for your next pathetic post my correct spelling of Tartan Tories, of stitch-up and that I don't parade my knowledge of French. [/quote] F irstly, the space between the A and the N is an illustration of the gap in [bold]TARTAN TORY[/bold] brain power !
And I would'nt demean our Gallic cousins by suggesting any link between your lot and the elegant Francais !
But what about my Q re the [italic]Ochil Nat[/italic] ?
Mind you unlikely to happen to Diminutive with his THREE jobs !
Toophingers wrote:
Exiled Aussie wrote: Pathetic creatures these TARTA N TORIES here. Whenever anyone is cleared of an alleged offence, its a "stich-up " Wonder what they'll say when the report is oui on the Nat MSP for Ochil's little scam !
May I ask the pretend Australian why it was wrong for the leader of the Holyrood real Tartan Tories to mis-use taxpayer's money for non-political purposes but alright for Gorbals Mick's missus. PS. Please note for your next pathetic post my correct spelling of Tartan Tories, of stitch-up and that I don't parade my knowledge of French.
F irstly, the space between the A and the N is an illustration of the gap in
TARTAN TORY brain power !
And I would'nt demean our Gallic cousins by suggesting any link between your lot and the elegant Francais !
But what about my Q re the
Ochil Nat ?
Mind you unlikely to happen to Diminutive with his THREE jobs !
Posted by: Exiled Aussie, Banff on 4:11pm Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]tom[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Exiled Aussie[/bold] wrote: Pathetic creatures these [bold]TARTA N TORIES[/bold] here. Whenever anyone is cleared of an alleged offence, its a "stich-up " Wonder what they'll say when the report is oui on the Nat MSP for Ochil's little scam ![/quote] Just go back to Oz.[/quote] Thanks but not before we hear the truth about the [bold]TARTAN TORY[/bold] deal, "commonly" known as the "[italic]Eck and Dave"[/italic] scam !
tom wrote:
Exiled Aussie wrote: Pathetic creatures these TARTA N TORIES here. Whenever anyone is cleared of an alleged offence, its a "stich-up " Wonder what they'll say when the report is oui on the Nat MSP for Ochil's little scam !
Just go back to Oz.
Thanks but not before we hear the truth about the
TARTAN TORY deal, "commonly" known as the "
Eck and Dave" scam !
Posted by: Graham, Glasgow on 4:11pm Wed 14 May 08
Karin,3:30pm. And how appropriate his first factory was built in Scotland![bold]bold[/bold]
Karin,3:30pm. And how appropriate his first factory was built in Scotland!
Posted by: Graham, Glasgow on 4:14pm Wed 14 May 08
ex labour, 2:22pm. You must be really old Labour if you can claim Martin is the worst ever speaker. Do you go as far back as Cromwell![bold]bold[/bold]
ex labour, 2:22pm. You must be really old Labour if you can claim Martin is the worst ever speaker. Do you go as far back as Cromwell!
Posted by: Hen Broon, lanark on 4:32pm Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote:
ex labour, 2:22pm. You must be really old Labour if you can claim Martin is the worst ever speaker. Do you go as far back as Cromwell![bold]bold[/bold] [/quote] He is certainly the thickest.
Thickest accent.
Thickest wallet.
Thickest waistline.
Thickest.
Thickest skin, representing as he does one of the most deprived and unhealthiest constituency's in Europe. Male life expectancy 64 and dropping.
Thickest expense account.
Thickest carpets.
Thickest son.
Pretty thick really.
Graham wrote:
ex labour, 2:22pm. You must be really old Labour if you can claim Martin is the worst ever speaker. Do you go as far back as Cromwell!
He is certainly the thickest.
Thickest accent.
Thickest wallet.
Thickest waistline.
Thickest.
Thickest skin, representing as he does one of the most deprived and unhealthiest constituency's in Europe. Male life expectancy 64 and dropping.
Thickest expense account.
Thickest carpets.
Thickest son.
Pretty thick really.
Posted by: Hen Broon, lanark on 4:32pm Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote:
ex labour, 2:22pm. You must be really old Labour if you can claim Martin is the worst ever speaker. Do you go as far back as Cromwell![bold]bold[/bold] [/quote] He is certainly the thickest.
Thickest accent.
Thickest wallet.
Thickest waistline.
Thickest.
Thickest skin, representing as he does one of the most deprived and unhealthiest constituency's in Europe. Male life expectancy 64 and dropping.
Thickest expense account.
Thickest carpets.
Thickest son.
Pretty thick really.
Graham wrote:
ex labour, 2:22pm. You must be really old Labour if you can claim Martin is the worst ever speaker. Do you go as far back as Cromwell!
He is certainly the thickest.
Thickest accent.
Thickest wallet.
Thickest waistline.
Thickest.
Thickest skin, representing as he does one of the most deprived and unhealthiest constituency's in Europe. Male life expectancy 64 and dropping.
Thickest expense account.
Thickest carpets.
Thickest son.
Pretty thick really.
Posted by: Hen Broon, lanark on 4:32pm Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote:
ex labour, 2:22pm. You must be really old Labour if you can claim Martin is the worst ever speaker. Do you go as far back as Cromwell![bold]bold[/bold] [/quote] He is certainly the thickest.
Thickest accent.
Thickest wallet.
Thickest waistline.
Thickest.
Thickest skin, representing as he does one of the most deprived and unhealthiest constituency's in Europe. Male life expectancy 64 and dropping.
Thickest expense account.
Thickest carpets.
Thickest son.
Pretty thick really.
Graham wrote:
ex labour, 2:22pm. You must be really old Labour if you can claim Martin is the worst ever speaker. Do you go as far back as Cromwell!
He is certainly the thickest.
Thickest accent.
Thickest wallet.
Thickest waistline.
Thickest.
Thickest skin, representing as he does one of the most deprived and unhealthiest constituency's in Europe. Male life expectancy 64 and dropping.
Thickest expense account.
Thickest carpets.
Thickest son.
Pretty thick really.
Posted by: georgegunn, dunfermline on 5:03pm Wed 14 May 08
unfortunately there is an unwritten convention that the speaker of the pig pen is returned unapposed to his trough.I cannot see the tories or the liberals upsetting the system so hopefully the snp could do the country a service by sending in a candidate to unseat him.
then the problem would be what to we do with the rest of the pigs?
unfortunately there is an unwritten convention that the speaker of the pig pen is returned unapposed to his trough.I cannot see the tories or the liberals upsetting the system so hopefully the snp could do the country a service by sending in a candidate to unseat him.
then the problem would be what to we do with the rest of the pigs?
Posted by: lillywhite, borders on 5:06pm Wed 14 May 08
maybe the liebour party should rebrand themselves again.Might I suggest
the Lillywhite party
maybe the liebour party should rebrand themselves again.Might I suggest
the Lillywhite party
Posted by: Graham, Glasgow on 5:09pm Wed 14 May 08
Hen,4:32pm. I suppose by your own estimate you are not thick, Hen.[bold]bold[/bold]
Hen,4:32pm. I suppose by your own estimate you are not thick, Hen.
Posted by: George Laird, Glasgow on 5:13pm Wed 14 May 08
Dear All
This "verdict" is an absolute joke and should seal the fate of the Crewe by-election for Labour.
Another example of corrupt society.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Dear All
This "verdict" is an absolute joke and should seal the fate of the Crewe by-election for Labour.
Another example of corrupt society.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Posted by: george alexander, north lanarkshire on 5:26pm Wed 14 May 08
I'll echo Sam's sentiments, let's get behind Rangers tonight.
Hopefully in years to come the union flag will regarded in much the same way as it is by the majority at ibrox............as carnival bunting. Nice to see the growing emergence of Saltires though.
Come on 'Grahamski' or 'Hamish' or 'Exile', use one of your pseudonyms and show your suppor for a Scottish team.
I'll echo Sam's sentiments, let's get behind Rangers tonight.
Hopefully in years to come the union flag will regarded in much the same way as it is by the majority at ibrox............as carnival bunting. Nice to see the growing emergence of Saltires though.
Come on 'Grahamski' or 'Hamish' or 'Exile', use one of your pseudonyms and show your suppor for a Scottish team.
Posted by: Scunnert, Travelling in Nihlon on 5:26pm Wed 14 May 08
Have you seen the little piggies
Crawling in the dirt
And for all the little piggies
Life is getting worse
Always having dirt to play around in.
Have you seen the bigger piggies
In their starched white shirts
You will find the bigger piggies
Stirring up the dirt
Always have clean shirts to play around in.
In their sties with all their backing
They don't care what goes on around
In their eyes there's something lacking
What they need's a **** good whacking.
Everywhere there's lots of piggies
Living piggy lives
You can see them out for dinner
With their piggy wives
Clutching forks and knives to eat their bacon
Have you seen the little piggies
Crawling in the dirt
And for all the little piggies
Life is getting worse
Always having dirt to play around in.
Have you seen the bigger piggies
In their starched white shirts
You will find the bigger piggies
Stirring up the dirt
Always have clean shirts to play around in.
In their sties with all their backing
They don't care what goes on around
In their eyes there's something lacking
What they need's a **** good whacking.
Everywhere there's lots of piggies
Living piggy lives
You can see them out for dinner
With their piggy wives
Clutching forks and knives to eat their bacon
Posted by: John Leven, Leven Fife on 5:29pm Wed 14 May 08
GML
Part of the problem is that in the normal course of events Martin will not be challenged at the ballot box. Normally the speaker is returned in his seat unopposed.
However as normally the speaker is even handed and neutral this should apply, but since Martin is not, Alex Salmond should announce before the next general election that the SNP will fight all Scottish seats at the next election.
GML
Part of the problem is that in the normal course of events Martin will not be challenged at the ballot box. Normally the speaker is returned in his seat unopposed.
However as normally the speaker is even handed and neutral this should apply, but since Martin is not, Alex Salmond should announce before the next general election that the SNP will fight all Scottish seats at the next election.
Posted by: Graham, Glasgow on 5:34pm Wed 14 May 08
g.a. 5:26. OK if I really have to get behind Them! I suppose its better than getting behind that Irish Republican team based in Parkheid, Glesga. But the Union Flag is with us forever mate. The Saltire is proudly displayed within the Union Flag. Thats enough for me.[bold]bold[/bold]
g.a. 5:26. OK if I really have to get behind Them! I suppose its better than getting behind that Irish Republican team based in Parkheid, Glesga. But the Union Flag is with us forever mate. The Saltire is proudly displayed within the Union Flag. Thats enough for me.
Posted by: Observer, Glasgow on 5:35pm Wed 14 May 08
The SNP should stand against Martin. He is MP for one of the poorest constituencies in Scotland, if not Western Europe. His son is the MSP for the area too. They are useless the place is riddled with organised crime, shootings are fairly common. Corruption is rife, think about the Chirnsyde Initiative for one, rumbled on for years, was only closed down when an SNP Councillor got in at a by election.
Get rid of them, taxi fares are not even half of it. I'd tell you more but I like my kneecaps where they are.
The SNP should stand against Martin. He is MP for one of the poorest constituencies in Scotland, if not Western Europe. His son is the MSP for the area too. They are useless the place is riddled with organised crime, shootings are fairly common. Corruption is rife, think about the Chirnsyde Initiative for one, rumbled on for years, was only closed down when an SNP Councillor got in at a by election.
Get rid of them, taxi fares are not even half of it. I'd tell you more but I like my kneecaps where they are.
Posted by: Tired of excuses, Galashiels on 5:41pm Wed 14 May 08
Almost 2 years worth of income support for a single person, paying for taxis to take an MPs wife shopping,
Surely MPs should pay their own taxis ,out of their wages , everybody else does.
Almost 2 years worth of income support for a single person, paying for taxis to take an MPs wife shopping,
Surely MPs should pay their own taxis ,out of their wages , everybody else does.
Posted by: Graham, Glasgow on 5:42pm Wed 14 May 08
Ob,5:35pm. Where have you been all your life Ob. Glesga has always been riddled with crime. Even some repectable people are criminals. What difference would the SNP or any other make. Cmon man its Glesga were talking aboot here. My home town.[bold]bold[/bold]
Ob,5:35pm. Where have you been all your life Ob. Glesga has always been riddled with crime. Even some repectable people are criminals. What difference would the SNP or any other make. Cmon man its Glesga were talking aboot here. My home town.
Posted by: Observer, Glasgow on 5:47pm Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote:
Ob,5:35pm. Where have you been all your life Ob. Glesga has always been riddled with crime. Even some repectable people are criminals. What difference would the SNP or any other make. Cmon man its Glesga were talking aboot here. My home town.[bold]bold[/bold] [/quote] My point was that the Councillor did make a difference Graham, a tangible one that local people noticed.
Graham wrote:
Ob,5:35pm. Where have you been all your life Ob. Glesga has always been riddled with crime. Even some repectable people are criminals. What difference would the SNP or any other make. Cmon man its Glesga were talking aboot here. My home town.
My point was that the Councillor did make a difference Graham, a tangible one that local people noticed.
Posted by: Samoyed, Costa del Menie on 6:11pm Wed 14 May 08
Hey Observer, that's a **** good idea, I'll introduce a request at the next constituency meeting, to formally put together a petition to HQ., thus the candidates commission consider it. Truth is we don't owe anyone anything.
Hey Observer, that's a **** good idea, I'll introduce a request at the next constituency meeting, to formally put together a petition to HQ., thus the candidates commission consider it. Truth is we don't owe anyone anything.
Posted by: David Alexander, Affshore on 6:40pm Wed 14 May 08
[quote]Cmon man its Glesga were talking aboot here. My home town.[/quote]
Violence, crime, unemployment, sectarianism and alcoholism; its a heady mix but they seem to love it.
The Labour Party have done nothing about it over the years, feeding off the poverty to line their own nests.
Hopefully, all that is about to change.
BTW, I don't support Rangers, but come on the Berrs!
Cmon man its Glesga were talking aboot here. My home town.
Violence, crime, unemployment, sectarianism and alcoholism; its a heady mix but they seem to love it.
The Labour Party have done nothing about it over the years, feeding off the poverty to line their own nests.
Hopefully, all that is about to change.
BTW, I don't support Rangers, but come on the Berrs!
Posted by: george alexander, north lanarkshire on 6:41pm Wed 14 May 08
Graham Glasgow wrote:
[quote]....getting behind that Irish Republican team based in Parkheid[/quote]
Strange choice of words Graham given that you earlier suggested that SNP supporters were against speaker Martin because he 'kicked with the left foot'.
Anyway, I have no problem supporting [bold]any[/bold] Scottish team in Europe, including Celtic. I prefer the Saltire to the green white and orange bunting and the red white and blue bunting.
Graham Glasgow wrote:
....getting behind that Irish Republican team based in Parkheid
Strange choice of words Graham given that you earlier suggested that SNP supporters were against speaker Martin because he 'kicked with the left foot'.
Anyway, I have no problem supporting
any Scottish team in Europe, including Celtic. I prefer the Saltire to the green white and orange bunting and the red white and blue bunting.
Posted by: wisnaeme, wisnae there on 7:04pm Wed 14 May 08
Right, I've read the article on the snouts in troughs do no wrong. It's to be expected, it's in the nature of those creatures to be so. So I guess it's expected of them. They certainly have no reason to change their ways, why should they when it's sooooo agreeable and gratifying for themselves to remain so.
I saw Bliar on the telly news. He's on a mission to the Middle east, apparently. He said he has an interest in the efficiency of their sewage treatment works. Ah'm sure with with his vast experience of converting sewage into sweet smelling and saleable commodities he will be able to advise the Palestinians on improvements.
Aye, Bliar's an expert on shi1e, right enough..
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Right, I've read the article on the snouts in troughs do no wrong. It's to be expected, it's in the nature of those creatures to be so. So I guess it's expected of them. They certainly have no reason to change their ways, why should they when it's sooooo agreeable and gratifying for themselves to remain so.
I saw Bliar on the telly news. He's on a mission to the Middle east, apparently. He said he has an interest in the efficiency of their sewage treatment works. Ah'm sure with with his vast experience of converting sewage into sweet smelling and saleable commodities he will be able to advise the Palestinians on improvements.
Aye, Bliar's an expert on shi1e, right enough..
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Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 7:13pm Wed 14 May 08
hey everyone the scotsman website is either down or they have shut it down. the front page is there but as soon as you try to follow a link you get an error page.
hey everyone the scotsman website is either down or they have shut it down. the front page is there but as soon as you try to follow a link you get an error page.
Posted by: Wallace, Perth on 7:15pm Wed 14 May 08
Fake Aussie - as an SNP supporter I unreservedly condemn the greed and deception of Keith Brown, MSP for Ochil. He stated that he would not take the cash, then changed his story to claim he had to accept the cash as it was a council bonus, but would donate it to charity. The press allege that he has not yet done this.
I condemn [bold]any[/bold] greed or corruption by [bold]any[/bold] MP or MSP or MEP of whatever political party, and that includes the greed of Speaker Martin and his wife, claiming over £4000 of taxi fares for shopping expeditions. How about you, do you also condemn Martin's greed, or does your obvious hatred of the SNP render you incapable of being even handed?
Fake Aussie - as an SNP supporter I unreservedly condemn the greed and deception of Keith Brown, MSP for Ochil. He stated that he would not take the cash, then changed his story to claim he had to accept the cash as it was a council bonus, but would donate it to charity. The press allege that he has not yet done this.
I condemn
any greed or corruption by
any MP or MSP or MEP of whatever political party, and that includes the greed of Speaker Martin and his wife, claiming over £4000 of taxi fares for shopping expeditions. How about you, do you also condemn Martin's greed, or does your obvious hatred of the SNP render you incapable of being even handed?
Posted by: Wallace, Perth on 7:19pm Wed 14 May 08
Graham, as an Arab fan I'll be cheering on Rangers tonight as the representatives of Scottish football in the UEFA Cup Final. But I'll lay odds you won't see many Saltires displayed by the Rangers support. You may be proud of the Union flag, but that is the flag of the UK, and Rangers are not representing the UK tonight, just as Manchester United and Chelsea will be representing England in the Champions League Final and not the UK.
Graham, as an Arab fan I'll be cheering on Rangers tonight as the representatives of Scottish football in the UEFA Cup Final. But I'll lay odds you won't see many Saltires displayed by the Rangers support. You may be proud of the Union flag, but that is the flag of the UK, and Rangers are not representing the UK tonight, just as Manchester United and Chelsea will be representing England in the Champions League Final and not the UK.
Posted by: Graham, Glasgow on 7:56pm Wed 14 May 08
GA,6:41PM, Nothing strange George. Michael Martin being a left footer has nothing to do with the fact that many Celtic supporters have more a love of the ROI than Scotland or the Union. Although most of them were probably born in Scotland or other parts of the Union.[bold]bold[/bold]
GA,6:41PM, Nothing strange George. Michael Martin being a left footer has nothing to do with the fact that many Celtic supporters have more a love of the ROI than Scotland or the Union. Although most of them were probably born in Scotland or other parts of the Union.
Posted by: Jwil, Lanarkshire on 8:47pm Wed 14 May 08
Labour should be dubbed the untouchables. Above and beyond the law.
Labour should be dubbed the untouchables. Above and beyond the law.
Posted by: Sam, somewhereelse on 9:04pm Wed 14 May 08
They must have been giving away wee union flags at the game in Manchester. Hardly a Saltire in sight.
They must have been giving away wee union flags at the game in Manchester. Hardly a Saltire in sight.
Posted by: Graham, Glasgow on 9:09pm Wed 14 May 08
Sam, If you take a closer unblinkered look at the Union flag you will see the Saltire. It dominates.[bold]bold[/bold]
Sam, If you take a closer unblinkered look at the Union flag you will see the Saltire. It dominates.
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 9:26pm Wed 14 May 08
graham stop being a totty the union flag is not the saltire its an amalgamation of the saltire and the union jack and st patricks cross.
graham stop being a totty the union flag is not the saltire its an amalgamation of the saltire and the union jack and st patricks cross.
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 9:27pm Wed 14 May 08
another wee peice of information for you graham the union of great britain and northern ireland is under 100 years old.
another wee peice of information for you graham the union of great britain and northern ireland is under 100 years old.
Posted by: Observer, Glasgow on 9:32pm Wed 14 May 08
Perhaps if Rangers fans flew more saltires they wouldn't be down one nil. I am flitting in and out the room now, can't watch.
Perhaps if Rangers fans flew more saltires they wouldn't be down one nil. I am flitting in and out the room now, can't watch.
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 9:32pm Wed 14 May 08
Posted by: george alexander, north lanarkshire on 5:26pm today
''I'll echo Sam's sentiments, let's get behind Rangers tonight. ''
George Alexander. What a phoney and a hypocrite.
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