‘She has to go’: Labour MPs call on Alexander to resign
MICHAEL SETTLE and ROBBIE DINWOODIE
WENDY Alexander was called on by Labour colleagues last night to step down as leader of the party at Holyrood as her brother, Douglas, made clear he supported Gordon Brown and the UK Government's line on an early independence referendum.
After a bad week for Labour, talk among MPs is that it is time for Ms Alexander to go. One told The Herald last night: "For someone who is clearly a very good friend of Gordon Brown's of many years' standing, it's time she went in his best interests."
One view on the Labour back benches is that with two years to go before the next General Election and three before the next Holyrood poll, now would be the right time for a new leader in Scotland to take the helm. The Herald was told there would be a lot of support for a challenger. One Scottish Labour MP insisted: "She has to go."
Other back benchers feel a change would be messy. They ask: who would replace her?
Last night, Channel 4 News reported that a "well-placed
minister" said No 10's unsettled line reinforced the impression that the Prime Minister was a "ditherer". Mr Brown has made clear he is awaiting the outcome of the Calman Commission before expressing a view on a referendum.
Conservative leader David Cameron yesterday said: "This sort of disagreement only undermines the Union, only plays into the hands of the SNP and they shouldn't have let it happen."
Douglas Alexander said: "I am a member of the cabinet. I support the government's position."
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Posted by: spagan, heisker, scotland on 10:49pm Fri 9 May 08
Good to see that they are brave enough to be named!
Its not often they are right - but ........
The First Minister should do everything he can to keep her - she's great fun all round.
Slainte Mhor
Good to see that they are brave enough to be named!
Its not often they are right - but ........
The First Minister should do everything he can to keep her - she's great fun all round.
Slainte Mhor
Posted by: megz, glasgow on 11:10pm Fri 9 May 08
Who would replace her? think the only labour msp i can put up with listening to is sarah boyack. Mibby old joke will get his job back.
Who would replace her? think the only labour msp i can put up with listening to is sarah boyack. Mibby old joke will get his job back.
Posted by: Duns Scotus, The Borders on 11:24pm Fri 9 May 08
Brave move - allowing comments that is. Tactic fail Mr Young? Hit rates plummet did they?
I don't know if I can be bothered, I'll sleep on it.
Brave move - allowing comments that is. Tactic fail Mr Young? Hit rates plummet did they?
I don't know if I can be bothered, I'll sleep on it.
Posted by: Harry Shanks, Rutherglen on 11:25pm Fri 9 May 08
I can exclusively reveal that Wendy Alexander is to be replaced by Jonathan Watson doing his Cathy Jamieson impression - in an effort to bring some gravitas to the Party.
I can exclusively reveal that Wendy Alexander is to be replaced by Jonathan Watson doing his Cathy Jamieson impression - in an effort to bring some gravitas to the Party.
Posted by: Colin B, Bearsden on 11:26pm Fri 9 May 08
pleeeease make screaming, emotional, public sector/never had a proper job , single issue wimmen Margaret Curran the leader of Labour
pleeeease make screaming, emotional, public sector/never had a proper job , single issue wimmen Margaret Curran the leader of Labour
Posted by: megz, glasgow on 11:27pm Fri 9 May 08
lol i think his female impersonations are the best, i honestly couldn't look at sarah o again without laughing after he was her.
lol i think his female impersonations are the best, i honestly couldn't look at sarah o again without laughing after he was her.
Posted by: Harry Shanks, Rutherglen on 11:30pm Fri 9 May 08
...... and Jackie Baillie is to be replaced by a f......g fabulous big pie.
...... and Jackie Baillie is to be replaced by a f......g fabulous big pie.
Posted by: Pedro, Kilmarnock on 11:37pm Fri 9 May 08
I have just worked out why Bendy has been pushing for an early referendum.
With tens of thousands of Rangers fans/gloryhunters out of the country next Wednesday could she be hoping to push through independence by then and have the border closed before Thursday?
I have just worked out why Bendy has been pushing for an early referendum.
With tens of thousands of Rangers fans/gloryhunters out of the country next Wednesday could she be hoping to push through independence by then and have the border closed before Thursday?
Posted by: Im no really here, but over there on 11:39pm Fri 9 May 08
OMG we can comment on this!!
PLEEEEEEAAAAASE keep her. As we said when Hurricane Jeck went, she is worth tens of thousands of votes for the SNP.
Scottish News in the Times on-line has the headline ""Wendy Shut Up" from Scottish Labour".
OMG we can comment on this!!
PLEEEEEEAAAAASE keep her. As we said when Hurricane Jeck went, she is worth tens of thousands of votes for the SNP.
Scottish News in the Times on-line has the headline ""Wendy Shut Up" from Scottish Labour".
Posted by: megz, glasgow on 11:43pm Fri 9 May 08
this so funny http://www.timesonli
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this so funny http://www.timesonli
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Posted by: Mrs I P Knightly, Scotland on 11:44pm Fri 9 May 08
we should have a referendum on whether Wendy should stay on as leader of the SLP group at Holyrood.
we should have a referendum on whether Wendy should stay on as leader of the SLP group at Holyrood.
Posted by: Tired of excuses, Galashiels on 11:46pm Fri 9 May 08
According to the latest polls , most of the country disagrees with Bean.
That is not really a reason for singling Wendy out for special treatment.
In fact many at Westminster disagree with Bean, again Wendy is not really out of step here.
The way i see it , Wendy was uncontested in the leadership campaign , unlike Bean.
If anyone should be going it is Bean at least there are people willing to replace him.
According to the latest polls , most of the country disagrees with Bean.
That is not really a reason for singling Wendy out for special treatment.
In fact many at Westminster disagree with Bean, again Wendy is not really out of step here.
The way i see it , Wendy was uncontested in the leadership campaign , unlike Bean.
If anyone should be going it is Bean at least there are people willing to replace him.
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 11:53pm Fri 9 May 08
wendy must stay.
wendy must stay.
So Broon and wendy are in agreement on the referendum issue does that mean the MPs want broon to go as well then?
wendy must stay.
wendy must stay.
So Broon and wendy are in agreement on the referendum issue does that mean the MPs want broon to go as well then?
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 11:57pm Fri 9 May 08
this from the times hilarious.
According to Hugo Rifkind
Monday
My secretary asks if I want a coffee. I say “bring it on”, and she does. Then the phone rings. It’s my brother Douglas. I’m the leader of the Labour Party in Scotland. He’s the Secretary of State for International Development. We’re a very impressive family.
“How’s Burma?” I say. “Bugger Burma,” says Douglas. “What’s this you’ve been saying about a referendum on Scottish independence? Gordon has been giving me hell.” I frown. “You? What has it got to do with you?” Douglas says that he’s not sure the PM realises that we are two different people. Either way, Gordon is very confused. He’s not sure whether I want a referendum or not.
“I said, ‘Bring it on’.” I say. “It should be obvious.” “Nothing is obvious for Gordon,” says Douglas. “You know what he’s like. He’s decided that ‘bring it on’ means you don’t want one. Probably because he doesn’t want one. I think you are due a bollocking.” I give a grim little laugh. “Bring. It. On,” I say. “And you can tell him I said that.” “He won’t understand,” says Douglas. “You’d better call him.”
Tuesday
Nobody understands. I don’t know why.
It’s perfectly simple. The Scottish Nationalists want independence, and we don’t. So, they want a referendum, and we don’t want a referendum. But, although we don’t want a referendum, we reckon that if there is one, we want it soon, so that people are more likely to want what we want them to want. Which is to say, not to want anything.
So, in saying that we want one now, we want the SNP to say that they don’t want one now. And they will, because they want to get what they want. And that’s what we want. Because, if they have one when they want, they might get what they want. And who would want that?
I don’t know why Gordon is confused. He must be some kind of idiot.
Wednesday
I still haven’t managed to get through to Gordon. Eventually, he calls me.
“Douglas,” he says. “No,” I say. “What?” says Gordon. “Never mind,” I say. Gordon lapses into a panicked silence. “Bring it on?” I say carefully. “Yes!” says Gordon, who has called to explain that, actually, ‘bring it on’ means that I don’t want a referendum.
“But Gordon,” I tell him. “I do.” “No, Douglas,” says Gordon. “You don’t.” “I’m Wendy,” I remind him.
“No you aren’t,” says Gordon.
Thursday
You’ve got to be careful with Gordon. It’s not that he means to be difficult. It’s just that he doesn’t understand it when people don’t think what he thinks. So he tells everybody else that you think what he thinks, even when you don’t. And they believe him.
“Coffee?” says my secretary. “Bring it on!” I say, but she just wanders away. See?
It’s First Minister’s Questions at midday today, so I have a showdown with Alex Salmond. At about 9.45am, I ask him to meet me for lunch. It’s cunning. I’m messing with his mind.
“Now?” says Salmond. “I’ve just had breakfast. Why would I want lunch at 9.45am?” “Aha!” I say. “So you are ruling out the possibility of lunch?” “Well, aye,” says the First Minister, sounding baffled. “I’ll only want lunch later. At lunchtime.” “Hypocrite!” I say. I can run rings around this man.
Friday
Gordon calls again. “Douglas?” he says. “We need to talk about Burma.” I know he’s the Prime Minister, but I finally snap. “I’m not Douglas!” I say. “I’m Wendy!” “Wendy?” says Gordon.
“Alexander,” I say. “I’m Gordon,” says Gordon. “I know that,” I say. “No you don’t,” says Gordon.
this from the times hilarious.
According to Hugo Rifkind
Monday
My secretary asks if I want a coffee. I say “bring it on”, and she does. Then the phone rings. It’s my brother Douglas. I’m the leader of the Labour Party in Scotland. He’s the Secretary of State for International Development. We’re a very impressive family.
“How’s Burma?” I say. “Bugger Burma,” says Douglas. “What’s this you’ve been saying about a referendum on Scottish independence? Gordon has been giving me hell.” I frown. “You? What has it got to do with you?” Douglas says that he’s not sure the PM realises that we are two different people. Either way, Gordon is very confused. He’s not sure whether I want a referendum or not.
“I said, ‘Bring it on’.” I say. “It should be obvious.” “Nothing is obvious for Gordon,” says Douglas. “You know what he’s like. He’s decided that ‘bring it on’ means you don’t want one. Probably because he doesn’t want one. I think you are due a bollocking.” I give a grim little laugh. “Bring. It. On,” I say. “And you can tell him I said that.” “He won’t understand,” says Douglas. “You’d better call him.”
Tuesday
Nobody understands. I don’t know why.
It’s perfectly simple. The Scottish Nationalists want independence, and we don’t. So, they want a referendum, and we don’t want a referendum. But, although we don’t want a referendum, we reckon that if there is one, we want it soon, so that people are more likely to want what we want them to want. Which is to say, not to want anything.
So, in saying that we want one now, we want the SNP to say that they don’t want one now. And they will, because they want to get what they want. And that’s what we want. Because, if they have one when they want, they might get what they want. And who would want that?
I don’t know why Gordon is confused. He must be some kind of idiot.
Wednesday
I still haven’t managed to get through to Gordon. Eventually, he calls me.
“Douglas,” he says. “No,” I say. “What?” says Gordon. “Never mind,” I say. Gordon lapses into a panicked silence. “Bring it on?” I say carefully. “Yes!” says Gordon, who has called to explain that, actually, ‘bring it on’ means that I don’t want a referendum.
“But Gordon,” I tell him. “I do.” “No, Douglas,” says Gordon. “You don’t.” “I’m Wendy,” I remind him.
“No you aren’t,” says Gordon.
Thursday
You’ve got to be careful with Gordon. It’s not that he means to be difficult. It’s just that he doesn’t understand it when people don’t think what he thinks. So he tells everybody else that you think what he thinks, even when you don’t. And they believe him.
“Coffee?” says my secretary. “Bring it on!” I say, but she just wanders away. See?
It’s First Minister’s Questions at midday today, so I have a showdown with Alex Salmond. At about 9.45am, I ask him to meet me for lunch. It’s cunning. I’m messing with his mind.
“Now?” says Salmond. “I’ve just had breakfast. Why would I want lunch at 9.45am?” “Aha!” I say. “So you are ruling out the possibility of lunch?” “Well, aye,” says the First Minister, sounding baffled. “I’ll only want lunch later. At lunchtime.” “Hypocrite!” I say. I can run rings around this man.
Friday
Gordon calls again. “Douglas?” he says. “We need to talk about Burma.” I know he’s the Prime Minister, but I finally snap. “I’m not Douglas!” I say. “I’m Wendy!” “Wendy?” says Gordon.
“Alexander,” I say. “I’m Gordon,” says Gordon. “I know that,” I say. “No you don’t,” says Gordon.
Posted by: Im no really here, but over there on 11:57pm Fri 9 May 08
[quote][bold]Mrs I P Knightly[/bold] wrote:
we should have a referendum on whether Wendy should stay on as leader of the SLP group at Holyrood.[/quote] Brilliant! Well done.
Good one too Megz, do you think it will be a series?
Mrs I P Knightly wrote:
we should have a referendum on whether Wendy should stay on as leader of the SLP group at Holyrood.
Brilliant! Well done.
Good one too Megz, do you think it will be a series?
Posted by: Traquir, Alba on 12:01am Sat 10 May 08
Looks like at long last there could be the long
awaited major Schism of the British Labour
Party which might actually result in the establishing of a separate
and truly Scottish Labour Party which is not beholden to
Westminster. Of course this new party will have to clean
house and get some better talent and do something
about things like their plummeting membership. Also
once they start focusing on Scotland first and foremost
I would hope that will look more reasonably and favourably
towards Independence, especially when they realize
it is in their own best interests since there is a high
chance that post-Independence they could get back
into power (but definitely not with level of talent they
currently have).
Looks like at long last there could be the long
awaited major Schism of the British Labour
Party which might actually result in the establishing of a separate
and truly Scottish Labour Party which is not beholden to
Westminster. Of course this new party will have to clean
house and get some better talent and do something
about things like their plummeting membership. Also
once they start focusing on Scotland first and foremost
I would hope that will look more reasonably and favourably
towards Independence, especially when they realize
it is in their own best interests since there is a high
chance that post-Independence they could get back
into power (but definitely not with level of talent they
currently have).
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 12:01am Sat 10 May 08
I am starting a "wee love wendy she is pure mad" campaign in order to save her.
Wendy is the funniest thing to happen to scottish politics in generations she must stay.
I think if wendy is pushed out it is sexism boris johnston (bojo) says stupid things all the time and nobody sacks him in fact he gets elected as london mayor.
I am starting a "wee love wendy she is pure mad" campaign in order to save her.
Wendy is the funniest thing to happen to scottish politics in generations she must stay.
I think if wendy is pushed out it is sexism boris johnston (bojo) says stupid things all the time and nobody sacks him in fact he gets elected as london mayor.
Posted by: Steve A, Glasgow on 12:02am Sat 10 May 08
What a cheek ! The wendum tells us that the independence referendum is holding Scotland back and that the Scottish people deserve better! All i know is this so called politician has done nothing but dominate the headlines for all the wrong reasons and in doing so has let herself her party and the Scottish people down big time.So if the wendum is going to" bring anything on " may i suggest that should be her immediate resignation followed by a an apology to the Scottish people!
What are you waiting for wendum BRING IT ON PLEEEEEEEEEEAASE!!!
What a cheek ! The wendum tells us that the independence referendum is holding Scotland back and that the Scottish people deserve better! All i know is this so called politician has done nothing but dominate the headlines for all the wrong reasons and in doing so has let herself her party and the Scottish people down big time.So if the wendum is going to" bring anything on " may i suggest that should be her immediate resignation followed by a an apology to the Scottish people!
What are you waiting for wendum BRING IT ON PLEEEEEEEEEEAASE!!!
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 12:08am Sat 10 May 08
steve no wendy must stay. we nats love wendy alexander it gets better but steve.
Meanwhile, a source close to the First Minister described claims that the SNP was prepared to "cosy up" to a future Tory government at Westminster as "utter rubbish".
Back in Scotland, Ms Alexander was said to be "seriously considering" the idea of bringing forward a motion in Holyrood next month on a referendum.
Under parliamentary rules, Labour are not allowed to bring forward an actual referendum bill as the Scottish Government has published a white paper with the intention of legislating in the lifetime of the parliament. But a motion may embarrass the SNP if they voted it down.
A final decision by Ms Alexander will not be made until Wednesday, after Mr Salmond outlines his programme for the year ahead. She has demanded he includes a referendum bill in that programme.
The tense atmosphere was summed up with speculation Ms Alexander was about to issue a resignation statement. But she had simply cancelled a constituency engagement because her children's babysitter was ill.
steve no wendy must stay. we nats love wendy alexander it gets better but steve.
Meanwhile, a source close to the First Minister described claims that the SNP was prepared to "cosy up" to a future Tory government at Westminster as "utter rubbish".
Back in Scotland, Ms Alexander was said to be "seriously considering" the idea of bringing forward a motion in Holyrood next month on a referendum.
Under parliamentary rules, Labour are not allowed to bring forward an actual referendum bill as the Scottish Government has published a white paper with the intention of legislating in the lifetime of the parliament. But a motion may embarrass the SNP if they voted it down.
A final decision by Ms Alexander will not be made until Wednesday, after Mr Salmond outlines his programme for the year ahead. She has demanded he includes a referendum bill in that programme.
The tense atmosphere was summed up with speculation Ms Alexander was about to issue a resignation statement. But she had simply cancelled a constituency engagement because her children's babysitter was ill.
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 12:10am Sat 10 May 08
''Douglas Alexander said: "I am a member of the cabinet. I support the government's position."
Nah, Douglas Alexander is a wee soook to Broon.
''Douglas Alexander said: "I am a member of the cabinet. I support the government's position."
Nah, Douglas Alexander is a wee soook to Broon.
Posted by: Dave, Away on 12:10am Sat 10 May 08
[quote][bold]Karin[/bold] wrote:
I am starting a "wee love wendy she is pure mad" campaign in order to save her. Wendy is the funniest thing to happen to scottish politics in generations she must stay. I think if wendy is pushed out it is sexism boris johnston (bojo) says stupid things all the time and nobody sacks him in fact he gets elected as london mayor. [/quote] Dear Karin,
Point of Order:
Lord Mayor's of London are expected to be "eccentric" (right raving mad for us McChatterers). Thus it is not sexism if Boris stays as if he was a woman he would be expected to be "eccentric" (though perhaps he might be expected to comb his hair....)
Karin wrote:
I am starting a "wee love wendy she is pure mad" campaign in order to save her. Wendy is the funniest thing to happen to scottish politics in generations she must stay. I think if wendy is pushed out it is sexism boris johnston (bojo) says stupid things all the time and nobody sacks him in fact he gets elected as london mayor.
Dear Karin,
Point of Order:
Lord Mayor's of London are expected to be "eccentric" (right raving mad for us McChatterers). Thus it is not sexism if Boris stays as if he was a woman he would be expected to be "eccentric" (though perhaps he might be expected to comb his hair....)
Posted by: Steve A, glasgow on 12:11am Sat 10 May 08
Karin
LOL
Posted by: Ranting Rab, Carluke on 12:12am Sat 10 May 08
As the actress said to the bishop.... 'there is no bad publicity'
Enjoy!
As the actress said to the bishop.... 'there is no bad publicity'
Enjoy!
Posted by: greenfinger, lothians on 12:15am Sat 10 May 08
"Karin, glasgae. on 11:57pm
this from the times hilarious. According to Hugo Rifkind ."
Spit laughing here, thanks Karin! But does that mean Bendyism infectious?
Malkie C for leader, then he can resign when he fails to agree with himself and/or any other bugger.
I see Bendy doesn't sit with Jackie B anymore in the debates, is that cos she thinks JB takes doughnuting too far?
"Karin, glasgae. on 11:57pm
this from the times hilarious. According to Hugo Rifkind ."
Spit laughing here, thanks Karin! But does that mean Bendyism infectious?
Malkie C for leader, then he can resign when he fails to agree with himself and/or any other bugger.
I see Bendy doesn't sit with Jackie B anymore in the debates, is that cos she thinks JB takes doughnuting too far?
Posted by: Im no really here, but over there on 12:16am Sat 10 May 08
[quote]Karin Wrote:
Under parliamentary rules, Labour are not allowed to bring forward an actual referendum bill as the Scottish Government has published a white paper with the intention of legislating in the lifetime of the parliament. But a motion may embarrass the SNP if they voted it down. [/quote] In order to do this she needs the support of another political party. Do you think Margo would help her? And wouldn't the Presiding Officer (or whoever) just throw it out because of the ruling?
Karin Wrote:
Under parliamentary rules, Labour are not allowed to bring forward an actual referendum bill as the Scottish Government has published a white paper with the intention of legislating in the lifetime of the parliament. But a motion may embarrass the SNP if they voted it down.
In order to do this she needs the support of another political party. Do you think Margo would help her? And wouldn't the Presiding Officer (or whoever) just throw it out because of the ruling?
Posted by: Dave, Away on 12:16am Sat 10 May 08
Stay the course, Ms. Alexander!
Reasons:
1. Who would replace you? (Kerr, Lord X, Baillie?) You're still the best they've got.
2. You are more telegenic than any of the other SLP members.
3. You have passion.
4. You are far more fun than all those stuffed shirts.
Whether as part of GB or as an independent nation, you are a Scot and Scotland needs your passion and experience.
Stay the course, Ms. Alexander!
Reasons:
1. Who would replace you? (Kerr, Lord X, Baillie?) You're still the best they've got.
2. You are more telegenic than any of the other SLP members.
3. You have passion.
4. You are far more fun than all those stuffed shirts.
Whether as part of GB or as an independent nation, you are a Scot and Scotland needs your passion and experience.
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 12:17am Sat 10 May 08
[italic]I dont know[/italic] when we were all saying sack wendy no comments were allowed now that [italic]we[/italic] want her to stay we and [bold]everyone else wants her sacked[/bold] we get to comment.
Looks like broon is not the only one that has the clothes pegs ready and waiting for hinging wendy oot tae dry.
I dont know when we were all saying sack wendy no comments were allowed now that
we want her to stay we and
everyone else wants her sacked we get to comment.
Looks like broon is not the only one that has the clothes pegs ready and waiting for hinging wendy oot tae dry.
Posted by: Dave, Away on 12:20am Sat 10 May 08
[quote][bold]Im no really here[/bold] wrote:
[quote]Karin Wrote: Under parliamentary rules, Labour are not allowed to bring forward an actual referendum bill as the Scottish Government has published a white paper with the intention of legislating in the lifetime of the parliament. But a motion may embarrass the SNP if they voted it down. [/quote] In order to do this she needs the support of another political party. Do you think Margo would help her? And wouldn't the Presiding Officer (or whoever) just throw it out because of the ruling?[/quote] Actually, I don't think Margo qualifies as doesn't the rule state that it needs the support of another *party*? After Thursday's FMQ Stevens might do it just for revenge over the dressing down, but I don't ken than an independent would qualify.....correct me if I'm wrong!
Im no really here wrote:
Karin Wrote: Under parliamentary rules, Labour are not allowed to bring forward an actual referendum bill as the Scottish Government has published a white paper with the intention of legislating in the lifetime of the parliament. But a motion may embarrass the SNP if they voted it down.
In order to do this she needs the support of another political party. Do you think Margo would help her? And wouldn't the Presiding Officer (or whoever) just throw it out because of the ruling?
Actually, I don't think Margo qualifies as doesn't the rule state that it needs the support of another *party*? After Thursday's FMQ Stevens might do it just for revenge over the dressing down, but I don't ken than an independent would qualify.....correct me if I'm wrong!
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 12:21am Sat 10 May 08
wendy bring it on alexander see if anyone sees her in the street shout ho wendy doll bring it OOOOOOONNNNN.
wendy bring it on alexander see if anyone sees her in the street shout ho wendy doll bring it OOOOOOONNNNN.
Posted by: Big Eye, Paisley on 12:21am Sat 10 May 08
Come on let's be fair, she has lost the support of her brother in her campaign to launch an Independence Referendum Campaign but she has attracted to her right shoulder Lord Forsyth who has clearly recognised the brillianceof Wendy's tactics.
What they need to work out now is how "socialist" Wendy and right wing Michael Forsyth can work hand and hand to dish it to the SNP.
Personally speaking as a nationalist I can't wait!
As the great leader has already stated "Bring it on"
Come on let's be fair, she has lost the support of her brother in her campaign to launch an Independence Referendum Campaign but she has attracted to her right shoulder Lord Forsyth who has clearly recognised the brillianceof Wendy's tactics.
What they need to work out now is how "socialist" Wendy and right wing Michael Forsyth can work hand and hand to dish it to the SNP.
Personally speaking as a nationalist I can't wait!
As the great leader has already stated "Bring it on"
Posted by: Dave, Away on 12:23am Sat 10 May 08
I've got it!!
Brown is afraid that with her passion and beauty she is a threat to his position!!
Hang in there Lady Wendy!!
[bold][italic]WENDY FOR QUEEN!!![/italic] [/bold]
I've got it!!
Brown is afraid that with her passion and beauty she is a threat to his position!!
Hang in there Lady Wendy!!
WENDY FOR QUEEN!!! Posted by: doonhamer on 12:23am Sat 10 May 08
[bold]Interesting numbers in the recent YouGov and Populus polls.
Populus Westminster Poll for the Times
Scottish Results May 2-4 2008
(est. seats Electoral Calculus)[/bold]
[quote]SNP 41 (43)
Labour 25 (8)
Conservatives 18 (3)
LibDem 11 (5)[/quote]
[bold]YouGov Westminster Poll for the Sun
Scottish Results May 7-8 2008
(est. seats Electoral Calculus)[/bold]
[quote]SNP 32 (23)
Labour 26 (21)
Conservatives 21 (7)
LibDem 13 (8)[/quote]
[bold]Average of both polls[/bold]
[quote]SNP 36.5 (36)
Labour 25.5 (11)
Conservatives 19.5 (5)
LibDem 12.0 (7)[/quote]
[bold]Don't worry Wendy, according to the following, Maggie Broon will be right behind in the benefits line.[/bold]
Interesting numbers in the recent YouGov and Populus polls.
Populus Westminster Poll for the Times
Scottish Results May 2-4 2008
(est. seats Electoral Calculus)
SNP 41 (43)
Labour 25 (8)
Conservatives 18 (3)
LibDem 11 (5)
YouGov Westminster Poll for the Sun
Scottish Results May 7-8 2008
(est. seats Electoral Calculus)
SNP 32 (23)
Labour 26 (21)
Conservatives 21 (7)
LibDem 13 (8)
Average of both polls
SNP 36.5 (36)
Labour 25.5 (11)
Conservatives 19.5 (5)
LibDem 12.0 (7)
Don't worry Wendy, according to the following, Maggie Broon will be right behind in the benefits line.
Posted by: Big Eye, Paisley on 12:26am Sat 10 May 08
As a Paisley voter I think it must have been Douglas's turn this month to spend five minutes speaking to his constituents. Returning home he decided she was history and to stop a family wipe out he has decided to ditch the family.
somehow I think this will prove to be too little too late!
As a Paisley voter I think it must have been Douglas's turn this month to spend five minutes speaking to his constituents. Returning home he decided she was history and to stop a family wipe out he has decided to ditch the family.
somehow I think this will prove to be too little too late!
Posted by: Dave, Away on 12:26am Sat 10 May 08
Big Eye, Paisley on 12:21am today
"What they need to work out now is how "socialist" Wendy and right wing Michael Forsyth can work hand and hand ..."
Technically, Wendy is a Wendyist Socialist, the precise positions on select topics of such being at present somewhat nebulous....
WENDY FOR QUEEN!!!
Big Eye, Paisley on 12:21am today
"What they need to work out now is how "socialist" Wendy and right wing Michael Forsyth can work hand and hand ..."
Technically, Wendy is a Wendyist Socialist, the precise positions on select topics of such being at present somewhat nebulous....
WENDY FOR QUEEN!!!
Posted by: nouveauxscum on 12:27am Sat 10 May 08
[bold]Wendy for Emperor.[/bold]
I'm a new manscum, I don't like gender specific nouns.
Wendy for Emperor.
I'm a new manscum, I don't like gender specific nouns.
Posted by: Steve A, Glasgow on 12:28am Sat 10 May 08
That Cbi Scotland guy whits his name thinks Scottish independence is a boil on Scotland's neck that needs lanced!He needs to be remembered for that statement when we are free!Get loss-ed and dont dare to try and speak for Scotland ever again you traitor!
That Cbi Scotland guy whits his name thinks Scottish independence is a boil on Scotland's neck that needs lanced!He needs to be remembered for that statement when we are free!Get loss-ed and dont dare to try and speak for Scotland ever again you traitor!
Posted by: Politically-incorrec
t Man, Glasgow on 12:29am Sat 10 May 08
Do I sense the impending appointment of a Deputy High Commissioner to Malawi?
Do I sense the impending appointment of a Deputy High Commissioner to Malawi?
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 12:30am Sat 10 May 08
jesus ive just figured oot who the well placed minister is its her own brother.
read the article again.
they were talking to dougie and suddenly they are talking about someone else i dont think so. Who is better placed than douglas alexander.
jesus ive just figured oot who the well placed minister is its her own brother.
read the article again.
they were talking to dougie and suddenly they are talking about someone else i dont think so. Who is better placed than douglas alexander.
Posted by: Grassy Knollington on 12:34am Sat 10 May 08
sorry no can do ,we can't get rid of Wendy , she's far too valuable to the SNP and it's obvious she has so much more to give......
sorry no can do ,we can't get rid of Wendy , she's far too valuable to the SNP and it's obvious she has so much more to give......
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 12:37am Sat 10 May 08
[quote]WENDY Alexander was called on by Labour colleagues last night to step down as leader of the party at Holyrood[/quote] The days are over when the Union can foist mediocrity on Scotland.
We used to think substandard in our politicians an everyday norm. We had nothing else with which to compare it. We know now what is vastly better; we are enjoying being in the professional capacity to decline was is good for what is better.
Substandard is no longer acceptable.
This entire fiasco has shown the Scottish electorate the difference between mediocrity and competence, between competence and acute skill, and between party loyalty and dedication to the interests of a country. Perceived standards have move up many notches. Tolerance of unevenness and poor performance in our politicians has dropped considerably.
There is no going back.
If Ms. Alexander has taught us anything it is that there is no room for the unskilled, the incompetent, the party hack, certainly none for the pretendy politician, in a modern Scotland. It is another sign of our awakening to the benefits of independence.
WENDY Alexander was called on by Labour colleagues last night to step down as leader of the party at Holyrood
The days are over when the Union can foist mediocrity on Scotland.
We used to think substandard in our politicians an everyday norm. We had nothing else with which to compare it. We know now what is vastly better; we are enjoying being in the professional capacity to decline was is good for what is better.
Substandard is no longer acceptable.
This entire fiasco has shown the Scottish electorate the difference between mediocrity and competence, between competence and acute skill, and between party loyalty and dedication to the interests of a country. Perceived standards have move up many notches. Tolerance of unevenness and poor performance in our politicians has dropped considerably.
There is no going back.
If Ms. Alexander has taught us anything it is that there is no room for the unskilled, the incompetent, the party hack, certainly none for the pretendy politician, in a modern Scotland. It is another sign of our awakening to the benefits of independence.
Posted by: Dave, Away on 12:37am Sat 10 May 08
[quote][bold]nouveauxscum[/bold] wrote:
[bold]Wendy for Emperor.[/bold] I'm a new manscum, I don't like gender specific nouns.[/quote] What exactly does being a Man United fan have to do with gender???(Puzzled, not trying to be rude....perhaps you younguns have a new meaning for the term?)
nouveauxscum wrote:
Wendy for Emperor. I'm a new manscum, I don't like gender specific nouns.
What exactly does being a Man United fan have to do with gender???(Puzzled, not trying to be rude....perhaps you younguns have a new meaning for the term?)
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 12:41am Sat 10 May 08
is it just me or are their less comments than usual.
ooo big mistake banning the comments douglas youve lost readers
is it just me or are their less comments than usual.
ooo big mistake banning the comments douglas youve lost readers
Posted by: Dave, Away on 12:43am Sat 10 May 08
[quote][bold]Karin[/bold] wrote:
is it just me or are their less comments than usual. ooo big mistake banning the comments douglas youve lost readers[/quote] It's only 12:40+, Karin....the night is young....
Karin wrote:
is it just me or are their less comments than usual. ooo big mistake banning the comments douglas youve lost readers
It's only 12:40+, Karin....the night is young....
Posted by: nouveauxscum on 12:43am Sat 10 May 08
[quote][bold]Dave[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]nouveauxscum[/bold] wrote: [bold]Wendy for Emperor.[/bold] I'm a new manscum, I don't like gender specific nouns.[/quote] What exactly does being a Man United fan have to do with gender???(Puzzled, not trying to be rude....perhaps you younguns have a new meaning for the term?)[/quote] Football in-jokes are wasted on me Dave.
Dave wrote:
nouveauxscum wrote: Wendy for Emperor. I'm a new manscum, I don't like gender specific nouns.
What exactly does being a Man United fan have to do with gender???(Puzzled, not trying to be rude....perhaps you younguns have a new meaning for the term?)
Football in-jokes are wasted on me Dave.
Posted by: doonhamer on 12:45am Sat 10 May 08
Do you think that they will ever let Des Browne out of the Tower of London?
The banging on the bars and the wild screaming can be heard for miles.
"Let me at her" yells wild Des. "just give me five minutes. No one will find out.. and then you can choose the new leader at Holyrood. Five minutes, I tell you, and all our troubles will be gone"
Meanwhile....
Gordon just shakes his head and mumbles to himself.
Cairns walks around holding his head.
Jackie Baillie goes on a hunger strike and causes massive redundacies in the pie making industry.
Andy Kerr tries to help by taking up the slack and disappears under the deluge of pies.
Wee Joke takes a slow boat to Malawi.
Margaret Curran introduces a private members bill to ban the sale of Chinese takeaway in Scotland.
Ian Kerr amends the bill to eliminate the drawing of straws
Nicol Stephen complains about an awful stench but cannot bear to open his eyes
Mrs. Doubtfire calls David Cameron and pledges to double the number of Tory seats in Scotland.
David Cameron is beside himself with glee until Mundell introduces himself as THE tory member from Scotland.
And poor Des keeps banging on the bars and screaming with frustration.
Do you think that they will ever let Des Browne out of the Tower of London?
The banging on the bars and the wild screaming can be heard for miles.
"Let me at her" yells wild Des. "just give me five minutes. No one will find out.. and then you can choose the new leader at Holyrood. Five minutes, I tell you, and all our troubles will be gone"
Meanwhile....
Gordon just shakes his head and mumbles to himself.
Cairns walks around holding his head.
Jackie Baillie goes on a hunger strike and causes massive redundacies in the pie making industry.
Andy Kerr tries to help by taking up the slack and disappears under the deluge of pies.
Wee Joke takes a slow boat to Malawi.
Margaret Curran introduces a private members bill to ban the sale of Chinese takeaway in Scotland.
Ian Kerr amends the bill to eliminate the drawing of straws
Nicol Stephen complains about an awful stench but cannot bear to open his eyes
Mrs. Doubtfire calls David Cameron and pledges to double the number of Tory seats in Scotland.
David Cameron is beside himself with glee until Mundell introduces himself as THE tory member from Scotland.
And poor Des keeps banging on the bars and screaming with frustration.
Posted by: Dave, Away on 12:47am Sat 10 May 08
[quote][bold]nouveauxscum[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]nouveauxscum[/bold] wrote: [bold]Wendy for Emperor.[/bold] I'm a new manscum, I don't like gender specific nouns.[/quote] What exactly does being a Man United fan have to do with gender???(Puzzled, not trying to be rude....perhaps you younguns have a new meaning for the term?)[/quote] Football in-jokes are wasted on me Dave.[/quote] Sorry, ns, but I've only ever run across the term "manscum" in relation to Manchester United F.C.....I have no point of reference for your comment.....
nouveauxscum wrote:
Dave wrote: nouveauxscum wrote: Wendy for Emperor. I'm a new manscum, I don't like gender specific nouns.
What exactly does being a Man United fan have to do with gender???(Puzzled, not trying to be rude....perhaps you younguns have a new meaning for the term?)
Football in-jokes are wasted on me Dave.
Sorry, ns, but I've only ever run across the term "manscum" in relation to Manchester United F.C.....I have no point of reference for your comment.....
Posted by: Traquir, Alba on 12:50am Sat 10 May 08
[quote][bold]doonhamer[/bold] wrote:
Do you think that they will ever let Des Browne out of the Tower of London?
The banging on the bars and the wild screaming can be heard for miles.
"Let me at her" yells wild Des. "just give me five minutes. No one will find out.. and then you can choose the new leader at Holyrood. Five minutes, I tell you, and all our troubles will be gone"
Meanwhile....
Gordon just shakes his head and mumbles to himself.
Cairns walks around holding his head.
Jackie Baillie goes on a hunger strike and causes massive redundacies in the pie making industry.
Andy Kerr tries to help by taking up the slack and disappears under the deluge of pies.
Wee Joke takes a slow boat to Malawi.
Margaret Curran introduces a private members bill to ban the sale of Chinese takeaway in Scotland.
Ian Kerr amends the bill to eliminate the drawing of straws
Nicol Stephen complains about an awful stench but cannot bear to open his eyes
Mrs. Doubtfire calls David Cameron and pledges to double the number of Tory seats in Scotland.
David Cameron is beside himself with glee until Mundell introduces himself as THE tory member from Scotland.
And poor Des keeps banging on the bars and screaming with frustration.
[/quote] LOL, I particularly liked
"Mrs. Doubtfire calls David Cameron and pledges to double the number of Tory seats in Scotland.
David Cameron is beside himself with glee until Mundell introduces himself as THE tory member from Scotland."
doonhamer wrote:
Do you think that they will ever let Des Browne out of the Tower of London?
The banging on the bars and the wild screaming can be heard for miles.
"Let me at her" yells wild Des. "just give me five minutes. No one will find out.. and then you can choose the new leader at Holyrood. Five minutes, I tell you, and all our troubles will be gone"
Meanwhile....
Gordon just shakes his head and mumbles to himself.
Cairns walks around holding his head.
Jackie Baillie goes on a hunger strike and causes massive redundacies in the pie making industry.
Andy Kerr tries to help by taking up the slack and disappears under the deluge of pies.
Wee Joke takes a slow boat to Malawi.
Margaret Curran introduces a private members bill to ban the sale of Chinese takeaway in Scotland.
Ian Kerr amends the bill to eliminate the drawing of straws
Nicol Stephen complains about an awful stench but cannot bear to open his eyes
Mrs. Doubtfire calls David Cameron and pledges to double the number of Tory seats in Scotland.
David Cameron is beside himself with glee until Mundell introduces himself as THE tory member from Scotland.
And poor Des keeps banging on the bars and screaming with frustration.
LOL, I particularly liked
"Mrs. Doubtfire calls David Cameron and pledges to double the number of Tory seats in Scotland.
David Cameron is beside himself with glee until Mundell introduces himself as THE tory member from Scotland."
Posted by: David, Scotland on 12:52am Sat 10 May 08
[bold]Wendy is pure mad man. She is pure dead brilliant. As for that Po - faced Alex Salmond he needs a humour transplant. So he does. so.he does. [italic]Ma granny[/italic] says HE is pure dead brilliant for looking efter the auld Folk. Gone yersel Alex![/bold]
Wendy is pure mad man. She is pure dead brilliant. As for that Po - faced Alex Salmond he needs a humour transplant. So he does. so.he does. Ma granny says HE is pure dead brilliant for looking efter the auld Folk. Gone yersel Alex! Posted by: nouveauxscum on 12:53am Sat 10 May 08
[quote][bold]Dave[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]nouveauxscum[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]nouveauxscum[/bold] wrote: [bold]Wendy for Emperor.[/bold] I'm a new manscum, I don't like gender specific nouns.[/quote] What exactly does being a Man United fan have to do with gender???(Puzzled, not trying to be rude....perhaps you younguns have a new meaning for the term?)[/quote] Football in-jokes are wasted on me Dave.[/quote] Sorry, ns, but I've only ever run across the term "manscum" in relation to Manchester United F.C.....I have no point of reference for your comment.....[/quote] No? Fair enough.
Dave wrote:
nouveauxscum wrote: Dave wrote: nouveauxscum wrote: Wendy for Emperor. I'm a new manscum, I don't like gender specific nouns.
What exactly does being a Man United fan have to do with gender???(Puzzled, not trying to be rude....perhaps you younguns have a new meaning for the term?)
Football in-jokes are wasted on me Dave.
Sorry, ns, but I've only ever run across the term "manscum" in relation to Manchester United F.C.....I have no point of reference for your comment.....
No? Fair enough.
Posted by: Steve A, Glasgow on 12:55am Sat 10 May 08
Anybody think when the weferwendum is over and Scotland is free that the bendy will try and take all the credit?
Anybody think when the weferwendum is over and Scotland is free that the bendy will try and take all the credit?
Posted by: Tunnock, kirkton on 12:55am Sat 10 May 08
Margo won't sign anything, she was on the box the other day looking seriously cheesed of with the whole thing.
Margo won't sign anything, she was on the box the other day looking seriously cheesed of with the whole thing.
Posted by: Dave, Away on 12:56am Sat 10 May 08
"David Cameron is beside himself with glee until Mundell introduces himself as THE tory member from Scotland.""
Hey, leave puir Mundell alone....he's busy saving phone boxes :-) (and could well be the next Scottish Secretary if the job still exists...)
"David Cameron is beside himself with glee until Mundell introduces himself as THE tory member from Scotland.""
Hey, leave puir Mundell alone....he's busy saving phone boxes :-) (and could well be the next Scottish Secretary if the job still exists...)
Posted by: Neil, Aberdeenshire on 1:01am Sat 10 May 08
Just to be serious for a moment... didn't I read yesterday that the Labour group in the Parliament backed Wendy's call for a referendum? If that's the case, why should Wendy quit and, if she does quit, won't her replacement still be duty bound to back a referendum? It doesn't matter which numpty fronts Labour in Holyrood, they've made their public statements in favour of a referendum so... [bold]bring it on![/bold]
Just to be serious for a moment... didn't I read yesterday that the Labour group in the Parliament backed Wendy's call for a referendum? If that's the case, why should Wendy quit and, if she does quit, won't her replacement still be duty bound to back a referendum? It doesn't matter which numpty fronts Labour in Holyrood, they've made their public statements in favour of a referendum so...
bring it on! Posted by: Im no really here, but over there on 1:02am Sat 10 May 08
[quote][bold]Steve A[/bold] wrote:
That Cbi Scotland guy whits his name thinks Scottish independence is a boil on Scotland's neck that needs lanced!He needs to be remembered for that statement when we are free!Get loss-ed and dont dare to try and speak for Scotland ever again you traitor![/quote] "That CBI Scotland guy" is a supposedly impartial member of the Calman Commission. His name is Iain McMillan. But then again, who ever said the Calman Commission was going to be fair and impartial to party politics. I've never read that anywhere.
Steve A wrote:
That Cbi Scotland guy whits his name thinks Scottish independence is a boil on Scotland's neck that needs lanced!He needs to be remembered for that statement when we are free!Get loss-ed and dont dare to try and speak for Scotland ever again you traitor!
"That CBI Scotland guy" is a supposedly impartial member of the Calman Commission. His name is Iain McMillan. But then again, who ever said the Calman Commission was going to be fair and impartial to party politics. I've never read that anywhere.
Posted by: Steve A, glasgow on 1:02am Sat 10 May 08
Anybody think Mundell looks like garfield?
Anybody think Mundell looks like garfield?
Posted by: Tunnock, kirkton on 1:03am Sat 10 May 08
A nice double for any punters, Hilary out of the presidential race and Wendy out on her behind by Tuesday.
Mcririck screams NAILED ON.
A nice double for any punters, Hilary out of the presidential race and Wendy out on her behind by Tuesday.
Mcririck screams NAILED ON.
Posted by: Strathturret, Montrose on 1:03am Sat 10 May 08
word on Scotsman site is the girls are working on Wendy's resignation speach.
When would be a good time to 'bury this news?'
Wednesday night when Rangers are playing Euro final. Sun and Record will lead with footie on Thursday whatever the result!
word on Scotsman site is the girls are working on Wendy's resignation speach.
When would be a good time to 'bury this news?'
Wednesday night when Rangers are playing Euro final. Sun and Record will lead with footie on Thursday whatever the result!
Posted by: doonhamer on 1:04am Sat 10 May 08
[quote][bold]Steve A[/bold] wrote:
Anybody think Mundell looks like garfield?[/quote] No, Garfield looks more human.
Steve A wrote:
Anybody think Mundell looks like garfield?
No, Garfield looks more human.
Posted by: Strathturret, Montrose on 1:06am Sat 10 May 08
Neil I agree, but you need to remember who supplies the money to slab? 80% of what they spent in 2007 came from down south. Brown is paying for them (well increasing labour's overdraft!). So he gets to call the tune.
Neil I agree, but you need to remember who supplies the money to slab? 80% of what they spent in 2007 came from down south. Brown is paying for them (well increasing labour's overdraft!). So he gets to call the tune.
Posted by: Steve A, Glasgow on 1:07am Sat 10 May 08
Doonhammer
Seriously google him pay particular attention to the eyes its uncanny !
Doonhammer
Seriously google him pay particular attention to the eyes its uncanny !
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 1:08am Sat 10 May 08
here i could do wendys resignations speech for her.
Thankyou for coming here today press people I called you all here today to tell you that i have decided to resign as the leader of the scottish labour group.
However after giving it a bit of thought i have decided to "bring it on" and i am totally not resigning in fact that wasnt my intention at all i have always thought about not resigning. I was in fact just highligting the fact that gordon totally supports me and i am doing a brilliant job in fact i give myself 10 out of 10.
here i could do wendys resignations speech for her.
Thankyou for coming here today press people I called you all here today to tell you that i have decided to resign as the leader of the scottish labour group.
However after giving it a bit of thought i have decided to "bring it on" and i am totally not resigning in fact that wasnt my intention at all i have always thought about not resigning. I was in fact just highligting the fact that gordon totally supports me and i am doing a brilliant job in fact i give myself 10 out of 10.
Posted by: Vivas, Embra on 1:09am Sat 10 May 08
Good Guardian article on Brown by Matin Kettle
http://www.guardian.
co.uk/commentisfree/
2008/may/10/labour.s
cotland
[italic]
"Brown is set in his ways. His ways are tactical, triangulatory and increasingly old-fashioned. He remains fixated on the Daily Mail. His response to Frank Field's campaign about the effects of his tax changes on the poor was classic old politics: first he vehemently denied it; then he sent out his nasties to try to take his critics down; then, I am told, he tried to buy Field off - twice - with a government job. Only when that failed did he then concede, extremely grudgingly, that he had got anything wrong.
These were not the responses of a man who understands change. His preposterous 20-hour days - the Sarah Brown profile in the June issue of Vogue reveals that he is often still working at 4am - will become 22-hour days and at some point, he believes, the voters will realise that he is right. To put it at its gentlest, this is what Joan Didion calls magical thinking."[/italic]
Good Guardian article on Brown by Matin Kettle
http://www.guardian.
co.uk/commentisfree/
2008/may/10/labour.s
cotland
"Brown is set in his ways. His ways are tactical, triangulatory and increasingly old-fashioned. He remains fixated on the Daily Mail. His response to Frank Field's campaign about the effects of his tax changes on the poor was classic old politics: first he vehemently denied it; then he sent out his nasties to try to take his critics down; then, I am told, he tried to buy Field off - twice - with a government job. Only when that failed did he then concede, extremely grudgingly, that he had got anything wrong.
These were not the responses of a man who understands change. His preposterous 20-hour days - the Sarah Brown profile in the June issue of Vogue reveals that he is often still working at 4am - will become 22-hour days and at some point, he believes, the voters will realise that he is right. To put it at its gentlest, this is what Joan Didion calls magical thinking." Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 1:10am Sat 10 May 08
Does anyone think that the wendys problem was that she forgot her crib sheet.
Does anyone think that the wendys problem was that she forgot her crib sheet.
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