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1000 join in Botanic Gardens protest against nightclub plan
CALUM MacDONALDMarch 31 2008

More than 1000 people gathered in Glasgow's Botanic Gardens yesterday in the largest demonstration so far against the controversial plan to open a bar and nightclub in the park.

Among the protesters was the actor Robert Carlyle, who spoke of his "anger" at the proposal for a nightclub in the west end park. He attended the demonstration with his wife and children.

The star of Trainspotting and The Full Monty, who grew up on one side of the gardens in Maryhill and now lives on the other side with his family in Dowanhill, said: "My family and I use this park about three or four times a week, but it's not about me, it's about the thousands of people who regularly use the gardens.

"I'm really interested in the history of Glasgow and it angers me so much that anyone could try to claim ownership of even just one square foot of this park; it belongs collectively to the people of this great city."

The bar and nightclub plan has met with vehement opposition across the city since news of it emerged last year.

G1 Group, the leisure chain owned by Glasgow entrepreneur Stefan King, initially wanted to spend £7m developing the site of a disused Victorian railway on the southern edge of the park into a nightclub and cafe/bar.

Save Our Botanics, a pressure group set up to oppose the scheme, has campaigned relentlessly against the proposal and two weeks ago The Herald reported that the G1 Group was poised to abandon the nightclub element of the plan.

Nevertheless, doubts remain over whether G1 still intends to create a bar on the site, which is also opposed by Save Our Botanics.

A piper at the gates of the gardens greeted the protesters as they arrived yesterday while in the park the Kirkintilloch Kelvin Brass Band played as people planted miniature flags in the plot of land where the proposed bar will be built.

The scheme has turned into one of the most contentious planning disputes in the city for years and opposition to it has come from every quarter.

Academics, artists, authors and stage and screen celebrities were among the 4000 people who signed a petition opposing plans.

Novelist and artist Alasdair Gray, Belle and Sebastian frontman Stuart Murdoch and Paul Riley, Greg Hemphill and Ford Kiernan from television comedy Still Game have all joined the opposition campaign.

The Astronomer Royal for Scotland, Professor John C Brown, has even threatened to resign in protest. Many of those opposed to the scheme are connected to the university, either as students or staff, and a number of senior professors have been actively involved in the protests.

David Howat, a solicitor in the west end of the city who is chairman of Save Our Botanics, said afterwards: "Although we have heard that the nightclub plans may have been dropped, there has been no official confirmation of this yet. Nevertheless, we remain concerned that even if the nightclub scheme is abandoned, some other kind of licensed premises will take its place. That too would be unacceptable to us.

"There is a real need in the gardens for a proper visitors' centre, perhaps incorporating a cafe or restaurant, and there would be no problem with that being licensed. But we are fundamentally opposed to the leasing of a part of the gardens to a company such as G1."

Kelvin MSP Pauline McNeill, one of very few Labour politicians opposed to the scheme from the outset, said: "I'm hopeful that at the very least the nightclub element of this scheme has been dropped. But we must continue campaigning until that is confirmed."

Robert Brown, the Glasgow list Liberal Democrat MSP, said: "It's great to see so many people here because people power is a very important factor in issues such as this one."


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Posted by: Scunnert, Travelling in Nihlon on 10:24pm Sun 30 Mar 08
An t-Amadan wrote:
They're wasting their time with this corrupt council. Look what happened at Pollock Park.
Look at Caltongate in Edinburgh and their plans to sell
ALL
of Princes Street to some Arab oil fund. Look at the mess of Aberdeen. Look at the wholesale appropriation of common goods across Scotland for the benefit of developers and brown envelopes. Just look at Scotland.
Posted by: bob mckay, glasgow on 11:59pm Sun 30 Mar 08
An t-Amadan wrote:
They're wasting their time with this corrupt council. Look what happened at Pollock Park.
Now now we can distinguish between the two proposals. Im very much delighted go-ape is going ahead but horrified that a nightclub is proposed for the Botanics.
As someone who has lived in Glasgow from the 60s-noughties it is clear the city is far cleaner healthier, richer and fun than at any time in my life.
Whether the council takes major credit i dont know but they take some credit. Bring on the commonwealth games. But keep the bollinger out the botanics, its a no-brainer.
Glasgow; scotland with heart and style.
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 12:26am Mon 31 Mar 08

One has to assume the council will ignore them as yet another rabble from the McChattering classes and award as they please.

I hope somebody challeneges the council in the courts.





Posted by: subrosa on 2:39am Mon 31 Mar 08
Bob, I'm not a resident of Glasgow but can I ask why you consent to Pollack Park being used for a commercial child's playground and you dissent from a playground for adults in the Botanic Gardens? Serious question by the way.
Posted by: Duncan B, Glasgow on 8:48am Mon 31 Mar 08
Pollok and Botanics, both the same all part of the same drive to the privatisation of our public spaces. Both should be resisted. A report in the Observer yesterday showed how they are privatising the whole of Liverpool city centre, 34 streets are being handed over to the Duke of Westminster. Coming here soon....

Pollack is a fish btw.
Posted by: Clare, Lanarkshire on 8:49am Mon 31 Mar 08
"Robert Brown, the Glasgow list Liberal Democrat MSP, said: "It's great to see so many people here because people power is a very important factor in issues such as this one."

What an odd quote. Isn't people power an important factor, full stop Mr Brown?


Posted by: bob mckay, glasgow on 11:56am Mon 31 Mar 08
subrosa wrote:
Bob, I'm not a resident of Glasgow but can I ask why you consent to Pollack Park being used for a commercial child's playground and you dissent from a playground for adults in the Botanic Gardens? Serious question by the way.
Pollok park will have about 40 trees affected. It encourages outdoor activity, something we desperately need; the clocks went forward, last night, sun shining....empty streets and parks. Kids indoors WII, PS3 XBOX ,PC .....Go-ape should be how we develop swingparks for the 21st century;. Its fun!
A nighyclub is late night alcahol- it fuels our national obsesssion with needing a drink to enjoy ourselves. It creates mess and noise in an area many Glaswegians find spiritually recharging.
Fellow Glaswegians....go-ap
e! You have nothing to lose but your beer bellies.
Posted by: mulross, Glasgow on 1:22pm Mon 31 Mar 08
Pollok park will have about 40 trees affected. It encourages outdoor activity, something we desperately need; the clocks went forward, last night, sun shining....empty streets and parks. Kids indoors WII, PS3 XBOX ,PC .....Go-ape should be how we develop swingparks for the 21st century;. Its fun!


Swing parks are normally free of charge. Do you HONESTLY believe that a Go Ape facility in Pollok Park would be used regularly by Glasow children, given the prices that are charged (and that children need to be accompanied by paying adults)? £45 for 1 adult plus 1 child. If 3 children then 2 adults must take part which makes the cost £110 for a 2 - 3 hour facility?

To quote a certain tennis star - "you can't be serious"
Posted by: The Missing City, Glasgow on 3:36pm Mon 31 Mar 08
Clare wrote:
"Robert Brown, the Glasgow list Liberal Democrat MSP, said: "It's great to see so many people here because people power is a very important factor in issues such as this one." What an odd quote. Isn't people power an important factor, full stop Mr Brown?
Isn't people power an important factor, full stop Mr Brown?


Yes it is Clare, you can actually comment with People Power on the Evening Times website regarding the Botanic Gardens Issue mate ;-)
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