New blow for Wendy Alexander as key aide quits
Douglas Fraser: "Some send their poison by post. Others post it online"
Wendy Alexander, Scottish Labour's embattled leader, has suffered another blow after it emerged a top aide is to quit.
Although Labour officials were last night stressing Tony McElroy had been planning his departure for a while, the timing could hardly be worse for the party's leader.
He will be the third spin doctor to leave since Ms Alexander became leader less than five months ago, and news of his departure comes as the Electoral Commission prepares to announce whether they are calling in the police over the illegal donation to Ms Alexander's leadership campaign.
Mr McElroy, who has been Scottish Labour's head of communications for the past four-and-a-half years, is leaving to take up a public affairs post with the supermarket giant Tesco.
His departure follows that of Brian Lironi, who resigned as Labour's chief spin doctor at Holyrood after Ms Alexander became leader last September.
Matthew Marr was also forced to resign as Ms Alexander's spokesman in November after shouting an obscenity at First Minister Alex Salmond during The Herald Politician of the Year awards ceremony. One senior Labour source last night predicted that other disgruntled party workers are set to resign.
The commission is meeting tomorrow and is expected to announce the outcome of its two-month investigation into
the illegal donation the follow-ing day.
Ms Alexander has admitted accepting the £950 cheque from Jersey-based businessman Paul Green, despite the fact non-UK residents are banned from making political donations.
Dr Jim Dyer, the Scottish Parliament's Standards Commissioner, has already called in the procurator-fiscal over Ms Alexander's failure to register donations to her campaign fund.
Her defence is that she had sought and followed guidance from parliamentary authorities in November that she did not have to declare the money.
When asked yesterday if she was considering resigning in light of the new developments, Ms Alexander said: "I don't think anybody's future should be called into question on the basis of following the advice of parliamentary authorities."
But yesterday a parliament spokeswoman said: "While we cannot comment on any individual case which may or may not be under investigation,
we have no reason to believe that any member has been provided with erroneous advice from officials."
Dr Dyer issued a statement yesterday insisting he had no option but to refer Ms Alexander's case to the procurator-
fiscal once he believed the rules had been broken.
He said: "I am not a final arbiter of what should be counted as a registrable interest - that is, in the end, a matter for the parliament and in some cases the courts."
A former deputy leader of the SNP also waded into the row by claiming Dr Dyer owed Ms Alexander an apology.
Jim Sillars said: "If I had been in Wendy Alexander's shoes this weekend, I would have sought judicial review of the administrative process and actions taken by the office, and person, of the Standards Commissioner in relation to this decision to make a referral to the procurator-fiscal."
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Posted by: Proud to be Scottish, Glasgow on Tue 5 Feb 08
Wendy has clearly done very little ‘wrong’. At most she has been a little disorganised.
Only seems to be hanging offence in the ‘bright new utopian Scotland’ of the SNP.
Let’s stick to the real story of SNP sleaze and corruption a la Aviemoregate and Trumpgate.
The buzzing gnats can’t handle that.
Wendy has clearly done very little ‘wrong’. At most she has been a little disorganised.
Only seems to be hanging offence in the ‘bright new utopian Scotland’ of the SNP.
Let’s stick to the real story of SNP sleaze and corruption a la Aviemoregate and Trumpgate.
The buzzing gnats can’t handle that.
Posted by: Duns Scotus, The Borders on Tue 5 Feb 08
Gie Sillars the joab!
Posted by: Supershug, Eaglesham on 12:02am Tue 5 Feb 08
[bold]New blow for Wendy Alexander as key aide[/bold]
As key aide what? Do The Herald work experience kids see any other sites make so many amateurish, sloppy mistakes?
New blow for Wendy Alexander as key aide
As key aide what? Do The Herald work experience kids see any other sites make so many amateurish, sloppy mistakes?
Posted by: Duns Scotus, The Borders on 12:03am Tue 5 Feb 08
Hey Proud to be! You must have had that typed up ready to post. I typed just 4 words so I could be first.
Come to think of it you cut and pasted your post from a previous thread, thought it looked familiar.
Hey Proud to be! You must have had that typed up ready to post. I typed just 4 words so I could be first.
Come to think of it you cut and pasted your post from a previous thread, thought it looked familiar.
Posted by: Clare, Lanarkshire on 12:05am Tue 5 Feb 08
"One senior Labour source last night predicted that other disgruntled party workers are set to resign."
Another anonymous Labour source eh? What a pack of back-stabbing sods they are. You have to laugh at the likes of Foulkes tho, blaming "cyber-nats" for all of this, when her own are hell-bent on making sure the really damaging hits just keep coming
"One senior Labour source last night predicted that other disgruntled party workers are set to resign."
Another anonymous Labour source eh? What a pack of back-stabbing sods they are. You have to laugh at the likes of Foulkes tho, blaming "cyber-nats" for all of this, when her own are hell-bent on making sure the really damaging hits just keep coming
Posted by: Alastair, Aberdeen on 12:07am Tue 5 Feb 08
PtbS:
This is desperate stuff you're pushing here. Let me put it this way for you, seeing as you obviously have great difficulty understanding it. It is against the law to accept donations from foreign donors for election purposes. She has admitted breaking the law. The paper trail leads directly back to her. Thus it is beyond all doubt that a crime has been committed BY HER. The only thing left to talk about is the trial date! Does that make it any simpler for you?
PtbS:
This is desperate stuff you're pushing here. Let me put it this way for you, seeing as you obviously have great difficulty understanding it. It is against the law to accept donations from foreign donors for election purposes. She has admitted breaking the law. The paper trail leads directly back to her. Thus it is beyond all doubt that a crime has been committed BY HER. The only thing left to talk about is the trial date! Does that make it any simpler for you?
Posted by: Kiera Hardie on 12:09am Tue 5 Feb 08
I don't completely understand. Someone working for the Labour Party (for Labour Party wages) has moved on after four years to a private sector job which probably pays two or three times as much. Isn't that just what happens? Hardly a crushing blow. At least this guy hasn't left under a cloud, so that's a novelty, but I imagine Ms Alexander has bigger things to worry about than a party functionary getting a better job.
I don't completely understand. Someone working for the Labour Party (for Labour Party wages) has moved on after four years to a private sector job which probably pays two or three times as much. Isn't that just what happens? Hardly a crushing blow. At least this guy hasn't left under a cloud, so that's a novelty, but I imagine Ms Alexander has bigger things to worry about than a party functionary getting a better job.
Posted by: Kiera Hardie on 12:11am Tue 5 Feb 08
[quote]"One senior Labour source last night predicted that other disgruntled party workers are set to resign."[/quote] Well maybe it's Andy Kerr. Or maybe it's a cleaner at John Smith House.
"One senior Labour source last night predicted that other disgruntled party workers are set to resign."
Well maybe it's Andy Kerr. Or maybe it's a cleaner at John Smith House.
Posted by: Duns Scotus, The Borders on 12:12am Tue 5 Feb 08
No mention of the "man who never was" - Kerron Cross, Ms Alexander's spin doctor who left the jobe BEFORE he even started it!
This quote from Mr Cross's website gives us a clue ...
[quote]Your superpower is that you smell like dandelions whenever someone lies. How will you maintain your secret identity?
Ensure [bold]I never hang around liars[/bold] [/quote]
No mention of the "man who never was" - Kerron Cross, Ms Alexander's spin doctor who left the jobe BEFORE he even started it!
This quote from Mr Cross's website gives us a clue ...
Your superpower is that you smell like dandelions whenever someone lies. How will you maintain your secret identity?
Ensure I never hang around liars
Posted by: Astonished, Inverclyde on 12:12am Tue 5 Feb 08
Proud to be Scottish - "Labour are fighting like a sack of rats" was the comment on a previous message board.
I thought the phrase accurate and telling - What I want to know is who do think will win ? And what will be left ?
Hope you can answer - I'll check back later.
Proud to be Scottish - "Labour are fighting like a sack of rats" was the comment on a previous message board.
I thought the phrase accurate and telling - What I want to know is who do think will win ? And what will be left ?
Hope you can answer - I'll check back later.
Posted by: Politically-incorrec
t Man, Glasgow on 12:13am Tue 5 Feb 08
Watched Newsnight Scotland for the Wendy-bashing session. Jackie Baillie sounds like one of those dolls that you pull a string on and it repeats ad nauseum the same phrases.
Why have they stopped mentioning that the Check from Mr Green was recorded as coming from another source (the property company)?
That I would have thought was evidence of deliberate fraud.
Watched Newsnight Scotland for the Wendy-bashing session. Jackie Baillie sounds like one of those dolls that you pull a string on and it repeats ad nauseum the same phrases.
Why have they stopped mentioning that the Check from Mr Green was recorded as coming from another source (the property company)?
That I would have thought was evidence of deliberate fraud.
Posted by: An t-Amadan, Alba on 12:15am Tue 5 Feb 08
Just how many spin doctors have now walked out on her? Is it four, or have I missed some? Rats and the sinking ship (with apologies to the rats)?
Just how many spin doctors have now walked out on her? Is it four, or have I missed some? Rats and the sinking ship (with apologies to the rats)?
Posted by: Ronald, Glasgow on 12:16am Tue 5 Feb 08
PAUL HUTCHEON - JOURNALIST OF THE YEAR - ANTIDOTE TO
THE TRUELY DREADFULL, FRASER, YOUNG ,SCHOFIELD
" ITS A SLAM - DUNK CASE OF CRIMINALITY !"
AND
" IT 'S WENDY 'S MESS, NO ONE ELSE' S"
READ IT AN' WEEP YOU NEW LABOUR CLOWNS!
And do you think newsnight invited him on to try desperetly
regain some sintilla of credibility? Cos we all know the
bbc is even worse than the herald - almost!
PAUL HUTCHEON - JOURNALIST OF THE YEAR - ANTIDOTE TO
THE TRUELY DREADFULL, FRASER, YOUNG ,SCHOFIELD
" ITS A SLAM - DUNK CASE OF CRIMINALITY !"
AND
" IT 'S WENDY 'S MESS, NO ONE ELSE' S"
READ IT AN' WEEP YOU NEW LABOUR CLOWNS!
And do you think newsnight invited him on to try desperetly
regain some sintilla of credibility? Cos we all know the
bbc is even worse than the herald - almost!
Posted by: pehman, sussex on 12:18am Tue 5 Feb 08
THERE'S SOMETHING MISSING FROM THE HEADLINE;-
New blow for Wendy Alexander as key aide (QUITS FOR JOB IN TESCO'S)
THERE'S SOMETHING MISSING FROM THE HEADLINE;-
New blow for Wendy Alexander as key aide (QUITS FOR JOB IN TESCO'S)
Posted by: pehman, sussex on 12:21am Tue 5 Feb 08
How's wendy going to get headlines now ?
How's wendy going to get headlines now ?
Posted by: doonhamer on 12:22am Tue 5 Feb 08
Is their anyone who wants to work with Wendy?
Is their anyone who wants to work with Wendy?
Posted by: An t-Amadan, Alba on 12:24am Tue 5 Feb 08
[quote][bold]pehman[/bold] wrote:
THERE'S SOMETHING MISSING FROM THE HEADLINE;-
New blow for Wendy Alexander as key aide (QUITS FOR JOB IN TESCO'S)[/quote] He'd probably rather be stacking shelves.
pehman wrote:
THERE'S SOMETHING MISSING FROM THE HEADLINE;-
New blow for Wendy Alexander as key aide (QUITS FOR JOB IN TESCO'S)
He'd probably rather be stacking shelves.
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 12:25am Tue 5 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Proud to be Scottish[/bold] wrote:
Wendy has clearly done very little ‘wrong’. At most she has been a little disorganised.
Only seems to be hanging offence in the ‘bright new utopian Scotland’ of the SNP.
Let’s stick to the real story of SNP sleaze and corruption a la Aviemoregate and Trumpgate.
The buzzing gnats can’t handle that.
[/quote] [bold]ha ha ha ha[/bold] - your a comedian PtbS
But lets just indulge you for wee bit.... we're all a little bored of this Wendy SAGA......
[bold]Trump Development[/bold]
Committee still to report but anyone who has followed the hearings and certainly the hacks that have sat through it all have all reported that despite Duncan McNeill trying his damnest to try and smear the Scottish Government, Jim Makinnon and Alec Salmond......not a shred of wrongdoing has either been found or a coherent charge made..... next you'll be telling us that it 'smells' of sleaze yet you won't show any proof whatsoever whilst at the same time you seem to be having breathtaking difficulty accepting that Wendy is in it up to her neck....
You can read Nichol Stephen's interview response in the P+J / Evening Express regarding the Trump Development debacle and the smearing of Alec Salmond and Jim Mackinnon in the parliament.
http://tinyurl.com/2
ajbpg
The last story ran on the affair incldued the Chairman of the CBI criticising the Labour led committee into the Development for sending out the message that Scotland was 'Closed for Business' ...... Labour seems to even balls it up in opposition....
[bold]Aviemore[/bold]
See Above, what exactly is the charge?
SEPA have confirmed that they were under no pressure to make a decision and as far as I am aware, all parties involved have agreed to publish all of the correspondence, that includes Labour's Rona Grant who wrote to the First Minister asking him to 'intervene'..... which of course would have been wrong....
Mike Russell the Environment Minister called SEPA to ensure that all procedures were being carried out correctly to which they confirmed that they were. Mr Russell subsequently wrote to the MSP's confirming that SEPA were acting within their remit.
What did come to light and is endemic in Labour's poorly administered quangos is that SEPA have no prioritisation system for larger developments of regional importance.... the development proposed will significantly increase visitor numbers in the Cairngorms national park providing a very welcome boost to employment whilst also providing up to 200 new homes which will hopefully alleviate the chronic housing shortage for young folk wishing to stay in the area but until recently forced out due to spiralling house prices.....
Labour's Scotland - Closed for Business....... No interest in Investment unless it';s in the Central Belt Trough..... no wonder their iis hardly any significant Labour representation anywhere north of stirling.
I wonder if the Deputy Chairman of SEPA, a £995 donor to Wendy Alexander's Leadership 'Campaign' will have anything further to add on why SEPA waited 6 years to express concern over the Aviemore development.......
He'll be able to tell the Labour Party when they next meet......i[bold]n Aviemore[/bold] for their March Conference..... are you going PtbS
Proud to be Scottish wrote:
Wendy has clearly done very little ‘wrong’. At most she has been a little disorganised.
Only seems to be hanging offence in the ‘bright new utopian Scotland’ of the SNP.
Let’s stick to the real story of SNP sleaze and corruption a la Aviemoregate and Trumpgate.
The buzzing gnats can’t handle that.
ha ha ha ha - your a comedian PtbS
But lets just indulge you for wee bit.... we're all a little bored of this Wendy SAGA......
Trump Development
Committee still to report but anyone who has followed the hearings and certainly the hacks that have sat through it all have all reported that despite Duncan McNeill trying his damnest to try and smear the Scottish Government, Jim Makinnon and Alec Salmond......not a shred of wrongdoing has either been found or a coherent charge made..... next you'll be telling us that it 'smells' of sleaze yet you won't show any proof whatsoever whilst at the same time you seem to be having breathtaking difficulty accepting that Wendy is in it up to her neck....
You can read Nichol Stephen's interview response in the P+J / Evening Express regarding the Trump Development debacle and the smearing of Alec Salmond and Jim Mackinnon in the parliament.
http://tinyurl.com/2
ajbpg
The last story ran on the affair incldued the Chairman of the CBI criticising the Labour led committee into the Development for sending out the message that Scotland was 'Closed for Business' ...... Labour seems to even balls it up in opposition....
Aviemore
See Above, what exactly is the charge?
SEPA have confirmed that they were under no pressure to make a decision and as far as I am aware, all parties involved have agreed to publish all of the correspondence, that includes Labour's Rona Grant who wrote to the First Minister asking him to 'intervene'..... which of course would have been wrong....
Mike Russell the Environment Minister called SEPA to ensure that all procedures were being carried out correctly to which they confirmed that they were. Mr Russell subsequently wrote to the MSP's confirming that SEPA were acting within their remit.
What did come to light and is endemic in Labour's poorly administered quangos is that SEPA have no prioritisation system for larger developments of regional importance.... the development proposed will significantly increase visitor numbers in the Cairngorms national park providing a very welcome boost to employment whilst also providing up to 200 new homes which will hopefully alleviate the chronic housing shortage for young folk wishing to stay in the area but until recently forced out due to spiralling house prices.....
Labour's Scotland - Closed for Business....... No interest in Investment unless it';s in the Central Belt Trough..... no wonder their iis hardly any significant Labour representation anywhere north of stirling.
I wonder if the Deputy Chairman of SEPA, a £995 donor to Wendy Alexander's Leadership 'Campaign' will have anything further to add on why SEPA waited 6 years to express concern over the Aviemore development.......
He'll be able to tell the Labour Party when they next meet......i
n Aviemore for their March Conference..... are you going PtbS
Posted by: nouveauxscum, something better on 12:25am Tue 5 Feb 08
Another flees in a desperate attempt to avoid the fallout.
Another flees in a desperate attempt to avoid the fallout.
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 12:25am Tue 5 Feb 08
ooopssss....... back to the wendy affair.... SEPA Donations anyone?
ooopssss....... back to the wendy affair.... SEPA Donations anyone?
Posted by: pehman, sussex on 12:26am Tue 5 Feb 08
Posted by: Duns Scotus, The Borders on today
Gie Sillars the joab!
Gie Sillars the joab!
I've just choked on my coffee and caramel waffer
Posted by: Duns Scotus, The Borders on today
Gie Sillars the joab!
Gie Sillars the joab!
I've just choked on my coffee and caramel waffer
Posted by: pehman, sussex on 12:31am Tue 5 Feb 08
Posted by: An t-Amadan, Alba on 12:24am today
pehman wrote: THERE'S SOMETHING MISSING FROM THE HEADLINE;- New blow for Wendy Alexander as key aide (QUITS FOR JOB IN TESCO'S)
He'd probably rather be stacking shelves.
Well I suppose it's better than shelving stacks
Posted by: An t-Amadan, Alba on 12:24am today
pehman wrote: THERE'S SOMETHING MISSING FROM THE HEADLINE;- New blow for Wendy Alexander as key aide (QUITS FOR JOB IN TESCO'S)
He'd probably rather be stacking shelves.
Well I suppose it's better than shelving stacks
Posted by: gurugordon, US on 12:41am Tue 5 Feb 08
How many Labour spin doctors does it take to change a light bulb?
How many Labour spin doctors does it take to change a light bulb?
Posted by: gurugordon, US on 12:41am Tue 5 Feb 08
How many Labour spin doctors does it take to change a light bulb?
How many Labour spin doctors does it take to change a light bulb?
Posted by: pehman, sussex on 12:45am Tue 5 Feb 08
Go on Guru, I'll go for it
How many labour spin Dr's does it take to change a light bulb
Go on Guru, I'll go for it
How many labour spin Dr's does it take to change a light bulb
Posted by: Proud to be Scottish, Glasgow on 12:51am Tue 5 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Duns Scotus[/bold] wrote:
Hey Proud to be! You must have had that typed up ready to post. I typed just 4 words so I could be first. Come to think of it you cut and pasted your post from a previous thread, thought it looked familiar.[/quote] No Duns
That is a tactic of a desperate cybergnat.
Perhaps I logged on before you and can type faster than you?
Show me where I have posted that before (re-hashing posts is another cybergnat tactic!) and I will retract every single word
Duns Scotus wrote:
Hey Proud to be! You must have had that typed up ready to post. I typed just 4 words so I could be first. Come to think of it you cut and pasted your post from a previous thread, thought it looked familiar.
No Duns
That is a tactic of a desperate cybergnat.
Perhaps I logged on before you and can type faster than you?
Show me where I have posted that before (re-hashing posts is another cybergnat tactic!) and I will retract every single word
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 12:52am Tue 5 Feb 08
Who would be likely to have leaked her law breaking in the first instance?
The Line-up of the usual Suspects - Spot the Snitch......
www.scottishlabour.o
rg.uk/shadow_cabinet
Iain Grey has a funny twitching eye.....guilt?
Who would be likely to have leaked her law breaking in the first instance?
The Line-up of the usual Suspects - Spot the Snitch......
www.scottishlabour.o
rg.uk/shadow_cabinet
Iain Grey has a funny twitching eye.....guilt?
Posted by: jim mitchell, Sauchie, Clack's on 12:53am Tue 5 Feb 08
I still prefer it when they name sources but I wonder what there disgruntled about, a real journalist would find out and not leave us guessing.
BTW, there's getting to be a real ' the boy stood on the burning deck,' feel to 'proud to be's posts.
I still prefer it when they name sources but I wonder what there disgruntled about, a real journalist would find out and not leave us guessing.
BTW, there's getting to be a real ' the boy stood on the burning deck,' feel to 'proud to be's posts.
Posted by: nouveauxscum, solo on 12:53am Tue 5 Feb 08
[quote][bold]gurugordon[/bold] wrote:
How many Labour spin doctors does it take to change a light bulb?[/quote] Feck it. I'll have a bash. As many as it takes to make the world revolve around Wendy?
gurugordon wrote:
How many Labour spin doctors does it take to change a light bulb?
Feck it. I'll have a bash. As many as it takes to make the world revolve around Wendy?
Posted by: jim mitchell, Sauchie, clack's on 12:56am Tue 5 Feb 08
I forgot to ask, does anybody know if the press guy they sent up from London to help Wendy out is still here?
He's doing a wonderful job!
I forgot to ask, does anybody know if the press guy they sent up from London to help Wendy out is still here?
He's doing a wonderful job!
Posted by: nouveauxscum, sniffer on 12:57am Tue 5 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Wardog[/bold] wrote:
Who would be likely to have leaked her law breaking in the first instance? The Line-up of the usual Suspects - Spot the Snitch...... www.scottishlabour.o rg.uk/shadow_cabinet Iain Grey has a funny twitching eye.....guilt? [/quote] Someone posted the other day that Ms Baillie was shouting the loudest, protesting too much was the suggestion.
Wardog wrote:
Who would be likely to have leaked her law breaking in the first instance? The Line-up of the usual Suspects - Spot the Snitch...... www.scottishlabour.o rg.uk/shadow_cabinet Iain Grey has a funny twitching eye.....guilt?
Someone posted the other day that Ms Baillie was shouting the loudest, protesting too much was the suggestion.
Posted by: Proud to be Scottish, Glasgow on 12:58am Tue 5 Feb 08
"One senior Labour source last night predicted that other disgruntled party workers are set to resign"
What complete nonsense. Unsubstantiated drivel. What will you gnats make up today?
You really are a very sad bunch - up half the night repeating and re-invorcing each others manufactured and dream-like posts.
Happy buzzing gnats
Goodnight.
"One senior Labour source last night predicted that other disgruntled party workers are set to resign"
What complete nonsense. Unsubstantiated drivel. What will you gnats make up today?
You really are a very sad bunch - up half the night repeating and re-invorcing each others manufactured and dream-like posts.
Happy buzzing gnats
Goodnight.
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 12:59am Tue 5 Feb 08
[quote][bold]nouveauxscum[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Wardog[/bold] wrote:
Who would be likely to have leaked her law breaking in the first instance? The Line-up of the usual Suspects - Spot the Snitch...... www.scottishlabour.o rg.uk/shadow_cabinet Iain Grey has a funny twitching eye.....guilt? [/quote] Someone posted the other day that Ms Baillie was shouting the loudest, protesting too much was the suggestion. [/quote] mmmm....The lady doth protest too much
nouveauxscum wrote:
Wardog wrote:
Who would be likely to have leaked her law breaking in the first instance? The Line-up of the usual Suspects - Spot the Snitch...... www.scottishlabour.o rg.uk/shadow_cabinet Iain Grey has a funny twitching eye.....guilt?
Someone posted the other day that Ms Baillie was shouting the loudest, protesting too much was the suggestion.
mmmm....The lady doth protest too much
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 1:02am Tue 5 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Proud to be Scottish[/bold] wrote:
"One senior Labour source last night predicted that other disgruntled party workers are set to resign"
What complete nonsense. Unsubstantiated drivel. What will you gnats make up today?
You really are a very sad bunch - up half the night repeating and re-invorcing each others manufactured and dream-like posts.
Happy buzzing gnats
Goodnight.
[/quote] Glad to have you up with along the way with us PtbS....
......night night...don't let the bed gnats bite
Proud to be Scottish wrote:
"One senior Labour source last night predicted that other disgruntled party workers are set to resign"
What complete nonsense. Unsubstantiated drivel. What will you gnats make up today?
You really are a very sad bunch - up half the night repeating and re-invorcing each others manufactured and dream-like posts.
Happy buzzing gnats
Goodnight.
Glad to have you up with along the way with us PtbS....
......night night...don't let the bed gnats bite
Posted by: Mercutio, Falkirk on 1:02am Tue 5 Feb 08
Saw the fair Roseanna on Newsnicht earlier on and it fair puzzles me why this talented lady who is an elected constituency MSP is left swanning around on the back benches when list hacks like Russell,Hyslop,Maxwe
ll,Watt, and Fabiani are given cabinet posts.
Saw the fair Roseanna on Newsnicht earlier on and it fair puzzles me why this talented lady who is an elected constituency MSP is left swanning around on the back benches when list hacks like Russell,Hyslop,Maxwe
ll,Watt, and Fabiani are given cabinet posts.
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 1:07am Tue 5 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Mercutio[/bold] wrote:
Saw the fair Roseanna on Newsnicht earlier on and it fair puzzles me why this talented lady who is an elected constituency MSP is left swanning around on the back benches when list hacks like Russell,Hyslop,Maxwe
ll,Watt, and Fabiani are given cabinet posts.[/quote] I've often mused the same thought about the right honourable Baron Foulkes of Cumnock..... what a waste sitting it out on the back benches...... maybe not for long though....
Mercutio wrote:
Saw the fair Roseanna on Newsnicht earlier on and it fair puzzles me why this talented lady who is an elected constituency MSP is left swanning around on the back benches when list hacks like Russell,Hyslop,Maxwe
ll,Watt, and Fabiani are given cabinet posts.
I've often mused the same thought about the right honourable Baron Foulkes of Cumnock..... what a waste sitting it out on the back benches...... maybe not for long though....
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 1:14am Tue 5 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Wardog[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Mercutio[/bold] wrote:
Saw the fair Roseanna on Newsnicht earlier on and it fair puzzles me why this talented lady who is an elected constituency MSP is left swanning around on the back benches when list hacks like Russell,Hyslop,Maxwe
ll,Watt, and Fabiani are given cabinet posts.[/quote] I've often mused the same thought about the right honourable Baron Foulkes of Cumnock..... what a waste sitting it out on the back benches...... maybe not for long though....[/quote] Not that the Gracious Baron is a 'lady' - That would be wrong.....
Wardog wrote:
Mercutio wrote:
Saw the fair Roseanna on Newsnicht earlier on and it fair puzzles me why this talented lady who is an elected constituency MSP is left swanning around on the back benches when list hacks like Russell,Hyslop,Maxwe
ll,Watt, and Fabiani are given cabinet posts.
I've often mused the same thought about the right honourable Baron Foulkes of Cumnock..... what a waste sitting it out on the back benches...... maybe not for long though....
Not that the Gracious Baron is a 'lady' - That would be wrong.....
Posted by: Mac-a-ghobha, Cumbernauld on 1:50am Tue 5 Feb 08
Good morning Wullie, your childish humour disappoints again. Try to address the matter being discussed, The posts from aledgedly Proud to be Scottish (driven out of Bannockburn, I presume) are more entertaining than your nonsense. I wonder if aledgedly proud is in cahoots with that failed politician Sillars?
Good morning Wullie, your childish humour disappoints again. Try to address the matter being discussed, The posts from aledgedly Proud to be Scottish (driven out of Bannockburn, I presume) are more entertaining than your nonsense. I wonder if aledgedly proud is in cahoots with that failed politician Sillars?
Posted by: Scunnert, Travelling in Nihlon on 2:32am Tue 5 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Mac-a-ghobha[/bold] wrote:
Good morning Wullie, your childish humour disappoints again. Try to address the matter being discussed, The posts from aledgedly Proud to be Scottish (driven out of Bannockburn, I presume) are more entertaining than your nonsense. I wonder if aledgedly proud is in cahoots with that failed politician Sillars?[/quote] Nae sense ae humour - jist ignore him Wullie!
Mac-a-ghobha wrote:
Good morning Wullie, your childish humour disappoints again. Try to address the matter being discussed, The posts from aledgedly Proud to be Scottish (driven out of Bannockburn, I presume) are more entertaining than your nonsense. I wonder if aledgedly proud is in cahoots with that failed politician Sillars?
Nae sense ae humour - jist ignore him Wullie!
Posted by: azg, Glasgow on 2:35am Tue 5 Feb 08
So Wendy can't even keep paid pals?
Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.
So Wendy can't even keep paid pals?
Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.
Posted by: Dave, Away on 2:35am Tue 5 Feb 08
[quote][bold]doonhamer[/bold] wrote:
Is their anyone who wants to work with Wendy?[/quote] Aye. Give me three months and a free hand.
The girl is fundamentally honest, decent and hard working. We can work with that.
She's been set up for failure by the party machine.
That is wrong.
They need to be dealt with...
Some debate coaching and non-sabotaged research and we'll have her a cross between the new-and-improved Hillary and Arnold Swartzenegger.....Sw
eet, yet indestructably tough.
Labour appartchniks would fear her and flee to their hidey-holes.
doonhamer wrote:
Is their anyone who wants to work with Wendy?
Aye. Give me three months and a free hand.
The girl is fundamentally honest, decent and hard working. We can work with that.
She's been set up for failure by the party machine.
That is wrong.
They need to be dealt with...
Some debate coaching and non-sabotaged research and we'll have her a cross between the new-and-improved Hillary and Arnold Swartzenegger.....Sw
eet, yet indestructably tough.
Labour appartchniks would fear her and flee to their hidey-holes.
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 2:54am Tue 5 Feb 08
Proud To Be A Balloon[quote]Wendy has clearly done very little ‘wrong’.[/quote] How come a phoney like you manages to log a post [bold]with no time appended to it?[/bold] Shall I look into it?
Proud To Be A Balloon
Wendy has clearly done very little ‘wrong’.
How come a phoney like you manages to log a post
with no time appended to it? Shall I look into it?
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 2:59am Tue 5 Feb 08
Proud To Be A Balloon[quote]Goodnight.[/quote] Goodbye.
It's remarkable how many anti-independence posters have diddly squat to say. They cannot be categorised as Unionists because they don't espouse even that weak-kneed belief.
Proud To Be A Balloon
Goodnight.
Goodbye.
It's remarkable how many anti-independence posters have diddly squat to say. They cannot be categorised as Unionists because they don't espouse even that weak-kneed belief.
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 3:02am Tue 5 Feb 08
[quote]Tony McElroy had been planning his departure for a while, the timing could hardly be worse for the party's leader.
He will be the third spin doctor to leave since Ms Alexander became leader less than five months ago,[/quote] One could suggest it's rats deserting a sinking ship, but it might be a case of protecting their livelihood from potential litigation ... on top of being unable to take the fragrant Alexander's winsome ways.
Tony McElroy had been planning his departure for a while, the timing could hardly be worse for the party's leader.
He will be the third spin doctor to leave since Ms Alexander became leader less than five months ago,
One could suggest it's rats deserting a sinking ship, but it might be a case of protecting their livelihood from potential litigation ... on top of being unable to take the fragrant Alexander's winsome ways.
Posted by: wisnaeme, wisnae there on 3:47am Tue 5 Feb 08
Hmm. Strange that. I post on the comment section of the tax story and it promptly disappeared along with the comment section within seconds.
Was it something I wrote?
The loss of one spin doctor could possibly be put down to carelessness, the loss of two is unfortunate but the loss of three? Dearie me.
I wonder who the next unfortunate will be? It will most certainly be a challenge putting the best spin on what is now surely more disasters for Labour in Scotland. Perhaps a Dunkirk scenario might be employed. That would no doubt appeal to MacCavity's Britishness but then again, we wouldn't fall for an unmitigated disaster tarted up as victory again,would we? Aye right, maybe some folk would.
Hmm. Strange that. I post on the comment section of the tax story and it promptly disappeared along with the comment section within seconds.
Was it something I wrote?
The loss of one spin doctor could possibly be put down to carelessness, the loss of two is unfortunate but the loss of three? Dearie me.
I wonder who the next unfortunate will be? It will most certainly be a challenge putting the best spin on what is now surely more disasters for Labour in Scotland. Perhaps a Dunkirk scenario might be employed. That would no doubt appeal to MacCavity's Britishness but then again, we wouldn't fall for an unmitigated disaster tarted up as victory again,would we? Aye right, maybe some folk would.
Posted by: Donald Anderson, glasgow on 4:36am Tue 5 Feb 08
Bendy belated reported her post campaign donations to a clerk not employed by Dr Dyer and eagerly took their word. (Others still dont') The Labour selected Electrical Commission is still frightened to report yet.
Hope the Herald doesn't duplicate this post again, again. I don't have this problem with other online papers. It does allow the Pom Frits to avoid the actual content and complain of the technicalities beyond my control.
Bendy belated reported her post campaign donations to a clerk not employed by Dr Dyer and eagerly took their word. (Others still dont') The Labour selected Electrical Commission is still frightened to report yet.
Hope the Herald doesn't duplicate this post again, again. I don't have this problem with other online papers. It does allow the Pom Frits to avoid the actual content and complain of the technicalities beyond my control.
Posted by: Donald Anderson, glasgow on 4:36am Tue 5 Feb 08
Bendy belated reported her post campaign donations to a clerk not employed by Dr Dyer and eagerly took their word. (Others still dont') The Labour selected Electrical Commission is still frightened to report yet.
Hope the Herald doesn't duplicate this post again, again. I don't have this problem with other online papers. It does allow the Pom Frits to avoid the actual content and complain of the technicalities beyond my control.
Bendy belated reported her post campaign donations to a clerk not employed by Dr Dyer and eagerly took their word. (Others still dont') The Labour selected Electrical Commission is still frightened to report yet.
Hope the Herald doesn't duplicate this post again, again. I don't have this problem with other online papers. It does allow the Pom Frits to avoid the actual content and complain of the technicalities beyond my control.
Posted by: Donald Anderson, glasgow on 4:38am Tue 5 Feb 08
Sorry Labour British subjects. It is doing it again. Again.
Sorry Labour British subjects. It is doing it again. Again.
Posted by: Donald Anderson, glasgow on 4:50am Tue 5 Feb 08
Shelve stackers are useful and necessary.
Ex Weegie Provost and Celtic Brit, Sir Michael Kelly is a PR for Tescoland. He is trying to convince Doonhaimers that they would be better off as a Tesco, as well a a British, colony.
I only need to say this once, whilst the Herald keeps repeating non sleaze attempts on the SNP.
Shelve stackers are useful and necessary.
Ex Weegie Provost and Celtic Brit, Sir Michael Kelly is a PR for Tescoland. He is trying to convince Doonhaimers that they would be better off as a Tesco, as well a a British, colony.
I only need to say this once, whilst the Herald keeps repeating non sleaze attempts on the SNP.
Posted by: Donald Anderson, glasgow on 4:50am Tue 5 Feb 08
Shelve stackers are useful and necessary.
Ex Weegie Provost and Celtic Brit, Sir Michael Kelly is a PR for Tescoland. He is trying to convince Doonhaimers that they would be better off as a Tesco, as well a a British, colony.
I only need to say this once, whilst the Herald keeps repeating non sleaze attempts on the SNP.
Shelve stackers are useful and necessary.
Ex Weegie Provost and Celtic Brit, Sir Michael Kelly is a PR for Tescoland. He is trying to convince Doonhaimers that they would be better off as a Tesco, as well a a British, colony.
I only need to say this once, whilst the Herald keeps repeating non sleaze attempts on the SNP.
Posted by: Saul Tyre, Germany on 6:27am Tue 5 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Kiera Hardie[/bold] wrote:
[quote]"One senior Labour source last night predicted that other disgruntled party workers are set to resign."[/quote] Well maybe it's Andy Kerr. Or maybe it's a cleaner at John Smith House. [/quote] There's no need for you to bring Cathy Jamieson into this.
Kiera Hardie wrote:
"One senior Labour source last night predicted that other disgruntled party workers are set to resign."
Well maybe it's Andy Kerr. Or maybe it's a cleaner at John Smith House.
There's no need for you to bring Cathy Jamieson into this.
Posted by: AM2, Alba on 6:35am Tue 5 Feb 08
In my humble opinion Wendy has done no wrong.
Jim Sillars is my new hero.
Looks like the SNP is finshed nw.
In my humble opinion Wendy has done no wrong.
Jim Sillars is my new hero.
Looks like the SNP is finshed nw.
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 7:03am Tue 5 Feb 08
AM-Squared Squired[quote]Looks like the SNP is finshed nw.[/quote]6.35 in the morning and you left you bed (and wife) to read the forum and post an inflammatory comment. Do you need help?
AM-Squared Squired
Looks like the SNP is finshed nw.
6.35 in the morning and you left you bed (and wife) to read the forum and post an inflammatory comment. Do you need help?
Posted by: AM2, Alba on 7:25am Tue 5 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Los Angeles[/bold] wrote:
AM-Squared Squired[quote]Looks like the SNP is finshed nw.[/quote]6.35 in the morning and you left you bed (and wife) to read the forum and post an inflammatory comment. Do you need help?[/quote] Did you not notice my new location ?
Los Angeles wrote:
AM-Squared SquiredLooks like the SNP is finshed nw.
6.35 in the morning and you left you bed (and wife) to read the forum and post an inflammatory comment. Do you need help?
Did you not notice my new location ?
Posted by: jomellon, Lodève, France on 7:31am Tue 5 Feb 08
> Wendy has clearly done very little ‘wrong’. At most she has been a little disorganised.
Oh yes she has: lets rehearse the admitted facts:
- she sought donations from a property developer who needs to get planning permissions thru the Labour controlled councils, principally Glasgow: any possibility of a conflict of interests?
- the donations were designed to be of an amount that would avoid the need to declare them: why dont they want the public to know who is giving money?
- the donation was illegal being from a non-resident: this was known and not an oversight
- the source of the donation was changed to conceal the identity
This isnt a small oversight of an "impermissible" donation: this is planned criminality, with intent before and after the fact, as part of a system of sleaze.
Exactly what the law was supposed to prevent.
> Let’s stick to the real story of SNP sleaze and corruption a la Aviemoregate and Trumpgate.
There are no "gates": these were Labour spin, happily trumpeted by the tame media who expect a return to Labour domination, and dont want to be left out in the cold: Labour had soooo many sweeties to give out down the years: interviews, quango memberships, planning permissions, ....
> Wendy has clearly done very little ‘wrong’. At most she has been a little disorganised.
Oh yes she has: lets rehearse the admitted facts:
- she sought donations from a property developer who needs to get planning permissions thru the Labour controlled councils, principally Glasgow: any possibility of a conflict of interests?
- the donations were designed to be of an amount that would avoid the need to declare them: why dont they want the public to know who is giving money?
- the donation was illegal being from a non-resident: this was known and not an oversight
- the source of the donation was changed to conceal the identity
This isnt a small oversight of an "impermissible" donation: this is planned criminality, with intent before and after the fact, as part of a system of sleaze.
Exactly what the law was supposed to prevent.
> Let’s stick to the real story of SNP sleaze and corruption a la Aviemoregate and Trumpgate.
There are no "gates": these were Labour spin, happily trumpeted by the tame media who expect a return to Labour domination, and dont want to be left out in the cold: Labour had soooo many sweeties to give out down the years: interviews, quango memberships, planning permissions, ....
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 7:47am Tue 5 Feb 08
Jomellon In France[quote]There are no "gates": these were Labour spin[/quote] Well done, Jomellon.
What we are witnessing is a decrepit old guard determined to ensure there will be no change for Scotland. How wrong they are.
Jomellon In France
There are no "gates": these were Labour spin
Well done, Jomellon.
What we are witnessing is a decrepit old guard determined to ensure there will be no change for Scotland. How wrong they are.
Posted by: daveymac, web on 7:54am Tue 5 Feb 08
Join the Herald Caption Competition, couldnt think how to finish the headline so though we would give the cyber vermin a wee go.
New blow for Wendy Alexander as key aide _______
drops trousers.
completes McDonalds training.
cheque bounces and assets are seized.
is sick of apologies.
develops cringe allergy.
Join the Herald Caption Competition, couldnt think how to finish the headline so though we would give the cyber vermin a wee go.
New blow for Wendy Alexander as key aide _______
drops trousers.
completes McDonalds training.
cheque bounces and assets are seized.
is sick of apologies.
develops cringe allergy.
Posted by: AM2, Alba on 8:08am Tue 5 Feb 08
It is purely co-incidental that 50% of the donations for Wendy's
leadership campaign were just under the £1000.
There was clearly no intentional coercion of any of
the donors to make them donate just below the limit.
In terms of questions of where the £17,000 was spent
it was wisely directed to Mr Sillars and was worth every
penny.
It is purely co-incidental that 50% of the donations for Wendy's
leadership campaign were just under the £1000.
There was clearly no intentional coercion of any of
the donors to make them donate just below the limit.
In terms of questions of where the £17,000 was spent
it was wisely directed to Mr Sillars and was worth every
penny.
Posted by: KT, Dundee on 8:16am Tue 5 Feb 08
as key aide ... threatens St Kilda
as key aide ... threatens St Kilda
Posted by: Proud to be Scottish, Glasgow on 8:18am Tue 5 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Los Angeles[/bold] wrote:
Proud To Be A Balloon[quote]Wendy has clearly done very little ‘wrong’.[/quote] How come a phoney like you manages to log a post [bold]with no time appended to it?[/bold] Shall I look into it?[/quote] Yes please 'MR completely and utterly para'
LOL
It's all a big conspiracy isn't it?
LOL
Perhaps I work for the Herald
LOL
Perhaps I'm Douglas Fraser?
LOL
Los Angeles wrote:
Proud To Be A BalloonWendy has clearly done very little ‘wrong’.
How come a phoney like you manages to log a post with no time appended to it? Shall I look into it?
Yes please 'MR completely and utterly para'
LOL
It's all a big conspiracy isn't it?
LOL
Perhaps I work for the Herald
LOL
Perhaps I'm Douglas Fraser?
LOL
Posted by: JohnJ, Edinburgh on 8:19am Tue 5 Feb 08
On Monday's NewsNight during the discussion on declaring donations and gifts Roseanna Cunningham claimed that all the information on Wendy Alexander's advice from officials that was in the public domain was a single line quote from Wendy.
Jackie Baillie then put the other two at a considerable disadvantage by stating that all Wendy Alexander's emails on the subject had been published.
I cannot find this correspondence in the papers or on the internet. Can anyone provide a URL for them ?
On Monday's NewsNight during the discussion on declaring donations and gifts Roseanna Cunningham claimed that all the information on Wendy Alexander's advice from officials that was in the public domain was a single line quote from Wendy.
Jackie Baillie then put the other two at a considerable disadvantage by stating that all Wendy Alexander's emails on the subject had been published.
I cannot find this correspondence in the papers or on the internet. Can anyone provide a URL for them ?
Posted by: Vronsky, Scotland on 8:23am Tue 5 Feb 08
[quote]How many Labour spin doctors does it take to change a light bulb?
[/quote]
There is nothing wrong with the light bulb, and it will not be changed. Although the bulb does not glow when switched on, this is not intentional behaviour on the part of the light bulb. The light bulb was selected for its present light-giving role and has indicated that it will remain in place to continue this work. We are confident that it will be exonerated from all accusations of failure, and Gordon Brown has almost expressed personal and unequivocal support for the bulb.
Even if the bulb has failed, which we of course refute utterly, it would be unjustified to take further action as the amount of additional darkness caused thereby is entirely negligible and trivial. It was only a 40-watt bulb.
How many Labour spin doctors does it take to change a light bulb?
There is nothing wrong with the light bulb, and it will not be changed. Although the bulb does not glow when switched on, this is not intentional behaviour on the part of the light bulb. The light bulb was selected for its present light-giving role and has indicated that it will remain in place to continue this work. We are confident that it will be exonerated from all accusations of failure, and Gordon Brown has almost expressed personal and unequivocal support for the bulb.
Even if the bulb has failed, which we of course refute utterly, it would be unjustified to take further action as the amount of additional darkness caused thereby is entirely negligible and trivial. It was only a 40-watt bulb.
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