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Empty for 25 years … landmark seminary could be saved
PHIL MILLER, Arts CorrespondentNovember 02 2007

It is a former seminary described as one of the most important modern buildings in Europe, but has been left abandoned and vandalised for more than 25 years.

Now, however, the derelict St Peter's Seminary in Cardross, a modernist building which lies as an empty eyesore, could be in line for a major makeover.

A leading commercial developer has made a firm offer to buy and renovate the decaying masterpiece, which was designed by lauded Glasgow architects Isi Metzstein and Andy MacMillan.

Significantly, The Herald understands that the official conservation report commissioned by the Catholic Church for the site stresses the architectural and cultural importance of the building and says it should be more than just "mothballed" as an inconvenient ruin.

The seminary, which closed in 1980, is A-listed and earlier this year was included on the 100 most endangered sites by the World Monument Fund, while Historic Scotland have said it is "one of Scotland's most important twentieth-century historic buildings".

The Church, which still owns the building and site, has lodged plans with Argyll and Bute Council to make the ruin safe, but not for re-use, and build 29 houses on adjacent land.

However, the conservation report is believed to recommend that the building is restored and put to a use. The report, by conservation specialist Avanti Architects, was commissioned in January by the Archdiocese of Glasgow, working with Argyll and Bute Council and Historic Scotland.

Yesterday Mr Metzstein and Mr MacMillan, now both 79, speaking at the launch of a major retrospective of their work for the Gillespie, Kidd and Coia firm at the Lighthouse in Glasgow, said they were less than enthusiastic about the seminary being turned into a hotel - but hoped it could be used again in the future.

Urban Splash, a leading urban developer in Manchester, has made a bid to buy the building from the Archdiocese of Glasgow - which won the Royal Institute of British Architects' Gold Medal - to convert it into a hotel.

A spokesman for the Catholic Church said, however, that no decision on its future could be made until the publication of the conservation report.

The report is due to be published early next month, but one source who has read it said last night: "The report concludes it is a highly significant building and it needs care and attention. That will call into question the current planning application.

"It says the answer is not to mothball' the building. It needs proper thought to its future and a mix of private and public funding to secure its future. It is encouraging for those who wish to see the building put to future use."

Mr Metzstein said he was unsure that the building could be a functional hotel.

"Personally, I think the rooms are too small, and of course there are no en-suite bathrooms," he said, half jokingly.

"My ideal would be to go back 20 years and have it used again as a seminary, but that is not going to happen. But nor do I want it all pulled down and its concrete used to pave motorways.

"I would like it being made into a music centre for young musicians, who could live there in residence and have concerts: but they would have to tolerate less than comfortable conditions."

Mr MacMillan added: "Even in its ruined state it has so much support and admiration. It was designed specifically for a spiritual use: if you fill it full of shops it would take away from that."

The exhibition at the Lighthouse is the first major survey of the two architects' work and focuses on their legacy, including St Brides Church in East Kilbride, the library at Wadham College in Oxford, Robinson College in Cambridge and the series of buildings they designed for the Catholic Church in the 1950s and 1960s.

Nick Barley, director of the Lighthouse, said: "I would just like to see St Peter's Seminary have a future at all. It is one of their greatest designs and right now it is just a ruin.

"However, I do think there is now a belief that the building can be re-used and not just preserved as it is."

The exhibition runs from tomorrow until February 10, 2008.



From icon to ruin
1953 Gillespie Kidd & Coia commissioned by the Catholic Church to build the centre.

1966 Seminary opens to first trainee priests 1971 Listed category B by Historic Scotland 1980 Seminary closes, building used as drug rehab centre until 1987.

1992 Listing upgraded to category A 2007 January It becomes the second modernist building in UK on the World Monument Fund's list of 100 most endangered sites. The Catholic Church commissions conservation report by Avanti Architects.

October Hotel plans mooted by Urban Splash. Avanti report, due December, said to advise sensitive restoration.


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Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 6:13am Fri 2 Nov 07
A leading commercial developer has made a firm offer to buy and renovate the decaying masterpiece, which was designed by lauded Glasgow architects Isi Metzstein and Andy MacMillan.
Long overdue - but the architects can't have it both ways; so long as it doesn't get knocked about in the conversion a hotel is as good a new use as any, and a better use than a seminary for dubious priests. The only pity is that the Vatican couldn't see its way to providing some of its ill-gotten money to preserve the building in the interim.
Posted by: John, Glasgow on 9:16am Fri 2 Nov 07
Los Angeles
Focus on the topic and don't use it to vent your bile against the Church!!
Posted by: sam, greenock on 10:47am Fri 2 Nov 07
John wrote:
Los Angeles Focus on the topic and don't use it to vent your bile against the Church!!
Surely a large part of the topic is the fact that the "church" has vast reserves of cash but don't seem to be to inclined to spend it on this masterpiece which at the end of the day is actually their responsibility.
What I think was also being reiterated by LA is the fact that the "church" isn't actually up for fulfilling their obligations to society no matter what they may be and this is just another example of that.
Posted by: Saint Peter, Cardross on 4:15pm Fri 2 Nov 07
A video of the building as it is today can be seen here:

http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=f4jm6ottc

PM
Posted by: devils in the detail, glasgow on 8:43pm Fri 2 Nov 07
'sensitive restoration' why restore something that was poorly designed, detailed and built in the first place????


Posted by: Albert, Glasgow on 10:20pm Fri 2 Nov 07
Ah, Mr MacMillan has emerged now that the parliament building controversy has died down. Yes he was one of that little panel of "experts" including Kirsty Wark to decide which of their favourite architects would get this plum contract.

His East Kilbride church is known locally as Fort Apache and its campanile (bell tower) had to be demolished before it fell down.

If Mr MacMillan wants to save this seminary then raise the money yourself. It will be a disgrace if public funds are used to rescue a concrete monstrosity. If the luvvies luv, then you pay for it!
Posted by: devils in the detail, glasgow on 8:14am Sat 3 Nov 07
cumbernauld college was also a 'masterpeice' of theirs!

how such an inefficient, crude and ugly building came to be built is a wonder - especially when you consider that some bits fell down several times during its construction and have to be rebuilt!
Posted by: Pete on 9:07am Mon 5 Nov 07
Typical philistines approach, if you had even read the article you would know there was private investors looking at it. Andy McMillan had also in the past condoned the idea of the building being consolidated as a ruin. Just because it isn't to everyones taste, doesn't mean that it isn't an important or historic building that is worth keeping in some capacity. It is probably the most significant and extreme example of the modernist era, it's not just Mackintosh & Thomson buildings that should be preserved.

If you want an informed critque of the building you could do worse than looking up the RCHAMS booklet on it, there were many reasons for its decline, social, economical, religious.

Posted by: LeCourbousier on 10:34am Mon 5 Nov 07
ALBERT tells us

His East Kilbride church is known locally as Fort Apache and its campanile (bell tower) had to be demolished before it fell down.


An extract from "God's architects" by Gavin Stamp, recently in the Scotsman.
http://living.scotsm
an.com/index.cfm?id=
1712992007

"What is also not clear is how far defects in construction were the fault of the architects rather than due to the way in which the Archdiocese handed out contracts. In the case of the church at East Kilbride, that great box of rugged brick walls penetrated by deep openings, the failure of the brickwork on the detached campanile was due to an imminently bankrupt contractor supplying substandard materials."

Stamp also notes that for a few hundreds pounds the campanile could have been saved...

Posted by: LeCourbousier on 10:42am Mon 5 Nov 07
ALBERT tells us

His East Kilbride church is known locally as Fort Apache and its campanile (bell tower) had to be demolished before it fell down.


An extract from "God's architects" by Gavin Stamp, recently in the Scotsman.
http://living.scotsm
an.com/index.cfm?id=
1712992007

"What is also not clear is how far defects in construction were the fault of the architects rather than due to the way in which the Archdiocese handed out contracts. In the case of the church at East Kilbride, that great box of rugged brick walls penetrated by deep openings, the failure of the brickwork on the detached campanile was due to an imminently bankrupt contractor supplying substandard materials."

Stamp also notes that for a few hundreds pounds the campanile could have been saved...

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