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Embattled Brown pledges to halve UK troops in Iraq
CATHERINE MacLEOD, Political EditorOctober 09 2007
PHASED PULL-OUT: Gordon Brown set out plans for phased withdrawal
PHASED PULL-OUT: Gordon Brown set out plans for phased withdrawal

Gordon Brown paved the way for the complete withdrawal of British troops from Iraq before the end of next year yesterday as he announced plans to halve the number of British troops in Iraq from next spring.

In a long-awaited statement in the House of Commons yesterday, the Prime Minister, battling to restore his dented authority, explained that the first stage of troop withdrawal had begun.

The statement came as the PM sought to regain the political initiative after his humiliating decision not to go to the country after allowing speculation about a snap election to grow.

Speaking at a televised Downing Street press briefing earlier, Mr Brown came close to apologising for the retreat after he admitted he may have delayed too long in announcing his decision.

Later, Mr Brown received a more sympathetic reception from Labour MPs and peers at the regular meeting of the Parliamentary Labour Party in the Commons as he sought to draw a line under the election controversy.

Mr Brown had made his statement on Iraq amid boisterous scenes in the Commons.

He said: "With the Iraqis already assuming greater security responsibility, we expect to establish Provincial Iraqi Control in Basra province in the next two months as announced by the Prime Minister of Iraq."

He added they would "move to the first stage of overwatch'; reduce numbers in southern Iraq from this summer's 5500 to 4500 immediately after Provincial Iraqi Control, and then to 4000".

"Then in the second stage of overwatch' from the spring - and guided as always by the advice of military commanders - we will reduce to around 2500 troops, with a further decision about the next phase made then," he said. Des Browne, the Defence Secretary, refused to be drawn on the long term prospects but earlier Whitehall officials admitted that all British troops could be brought home.

"Certainly at this stage there is no guarantee that they are going to be there beyond the end of 2008. The policy will be made in the spring," he said.

In a packed Commons, against a backdrop of noisy protesters in Parliament Square, Mr Brown set out a number of measures designed to ease the transfer of power in Iraq while silencing the government's critics in the UK.

l Local staff, who have worked for British forces for more than 12 months in Iraq would be able to apply for financial aid to settle there, elsewhere in the region or "in agreed circumstances" in the UK; l There are plans to allow professional staff, including interpreters and translators, with a similar length of service who have left British employment since the beginning of 2005 to apply for help. Further details of the scheme will be announced later this week; l Orders had been placed for an additional 140 Mastiff patrol vehicles which Mr Brown described as offering the "best known protection against mines and roadside bombs"; l Additional funding for troops in Iraq and Afghanistan to double the number of internet terminals and provide free wireless internet connections.

Mr Brown appeared in the Commons after taking a battering in the media over a series of blunders, beginning in Iraq last week during the Tory party conference, when he announced the withdrawal of 1000 troops by Christmas.

In the Commons, David Cameron accused Mr Brown of spinning and playing politics with Britain's servicemen. While he welcomed the prospect of troop reductions and help for Iraqis who had worked with UK forces, he asked Mr Brown if "on reflection" he agreed the way announcements on troop reductions had been made were "mistakes".

Mr Cameron reminded the Prime Minister that he had promised to make any important announcements to the Commons.

"But you didn't. You promised a thousand of our troops would be brought back before Christmas but isn't it the case that 500 of them had already been announced and 270 of them were already back in the country? I have to say to you this is of a different order of magnitude to what we've had from you over the last decade," he said.

Sir Menzies Campbell, the leader of the Liberal Democrats, said it was time for Mr Brown to set a framework "for the complete withdrawal" of British forces from Iraq.

"After four and a half years Britain has more than fulfilled any moral obligation to the people of Iraq and our obligation now is to our young men and young women in our armed forces?" he said.


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Posted by: Paxton on 2:01am Tue 9 Oct 07
Embattled can be translated in two different ways, so just take your pick if you have any preferance. It's not my cup of tea to indulge in politics anyway. I better leave it to the forum who seem to be occupied with other matters of life importance at the moment.. I'm going to examine the inside of my eyelids myself now and bid ye all goodnight. Goodnight!
Posted by: Yok Finney, Ross-shire on 4:10am Tue 9 Oct 07
"Calling together all of the Chiefs of Staff was not easy since they were deeply involved in running the war , if not in winning it."

- H. Harrison from "The SSR Wants You".

The Taleban, which many Afghanis choose to join, don't control South Afghanistan, nor did they attempt this folly even when armed by the USA via its client state of Pakistan.
Posted by: donald, glasgow on 4:33am Tue 9 Oct 07
Embattled Brown pledges to halve UK troops in Iraq

Embattleed Broon pledges to Double the Scottish Cannon Fodder for Afghanistan.
Posted by: Addison De Witt, Throwing Gordon Brown Off The Top of The Empire State Building on 5:27am Tue 9 Oct 07


The photo of Gordon Brown above.

Thats him smiling .


Addison De Witt
Posted by: bert on 7:34am Tue 9 Oct 07
If you want a laugh try listening to Des Browne on Radio 4's PM programme last night. It was hilarious. Eddie Mair got him to admit that a lot of these troops will just be moving to Kuwait and not coming home at all. It was great stuff.
Posted by: jackslad on 9:06am Tue 9 Oct 07
With Douglas Alexander in his elecion planning is it any wonder it became a farce? How can the Broons judgement be trusted?
Posted by: Albert, Glasgow on 9:22am Tue 9 Oct 07
Mr Brown came close to apologising for the retreat
Posted by: Albert, Glasgow on 9:25am Tue 9 Oct 07
Oops! A big cyberned stole my punchline and ran away.

Entry @ 9:22am should be a Quote followed by,

No silly, he was talking about the election that never was, not the war that never should have been.
Posted by: Mac, Dundee on 9:39am Tue 9 Oct 07
By all accounts conditions in Basra have gotten worse since UK troops have left the city. More militia, more murders, more kidnapping, more bloody awful misery.

The whole military adventure has been an unmitigated disaster for the UK, but it could get worse. If the stories are correct the Americans will start a bombing campaign in Iran early summer, and that could mean UK troops stationed at Basra airport fighting their way all the way back to Kuwait.

Never mind Rent-A-Jock Co. Ltd (British Army to you and me) will still be operating in Afghanistan protecting the opium poppy crops for the warlords.
Posted by: Bill Irvine on 9:57am Tue 9 Oct 07
The insurgents have much the same plan, but I believe that they really mean it in a simple un-spun way.
Posted by: Craig, Edinburgh on 10:24am Tue 9 Oct 07
Out of the frying pan (Iraq) into the fire (Afghanistan). And - for what?
Posted by: maragdubh, lewis on 11:14am Tue 9 Oct 07
Craig wrote:
Out of the frying pan (Iraq) into the fire (Afghanistan). And - for what?
and for what.? I ask the same question and them remember the film ZULU and ask the same question why are they (the welsh troop) there and arriver at this conclusion, british troop are no more than a cheap, subsidised (by the taxpayer) security service to protect the wealth of the wealthy (I was ex service)
Posted by: Ronald, Glasgow on 12:47pm Tue 9 Oct 07
I was bemused by that idiot - "Ming the Magnificent" Campbell and
his insistance that "after for and a half years Britain has fulfilled
any moral obligation to the people of Iraq!"
Try telling that to the friends and relatives of the 677,000 kiddies, women, and men butchered by "our brave boys!"
Generations will pass and we still will still be unable to repay the
Iraq people for the murderous onslaught NEW LABOUR and their cronies in other political parties unleashed upon them.
Iraq was bombed "back to the stone age" - with water, sewage, and
electrical plants utterly destroyed. Proud to be British? Youbetcha!!
Posted by: Ronald, Glasgow on 12:48pm Tue 9 Oct 07
I was bemused by that idiot - "Ming the Magnificent" Campbell and
his insistance that "after for and a half years Britain has fulfilled
any moral obligation to the people of Iraq!"
Try telling that to the friends and relatives of the 677,000 kiddies, women, and men butchered by "our brave boys!"
Generations will pass and we still will still be unable to repay the
Iraq people for the murderous onslaught NEW LABOUR and their cronies in other political parties unleashed upon them.
Iraq was bombed "back to the stone age" - with water, sewage, and
electrical plants utterly destroyed. Proud to be British? Youbetcha!!
Posted by: Ronald, Glasgow on 12:49pm Tue 9 Oct 07
I was bemused by that idiot - "Ming the Magnificent" Campbell and
his insistance that "after for and a half years Britain has fulfilled
any moral obligation to the people of Iraq!"
Try telling that to the friends and relatives of the 677,000 kiddies, women, and men butchered by "our brave boys!"
Generations will pass and we still will still be unable to repay the
Iraq people for the murderous onslaught NEW LABOUR and their cronies in other political parties unleashed upon them.
Iraq was bombed "back to the stone age" - with water, sewage, and
electrical plants utterly destroyed. Proud to be British? Youbetcha!!
Posted by: David on 12:14am Wed 10 Oct 07
donald wrote:
Embattled Brown pledges to halve UK troops in Iraq
Embattleed Broon pledges to Double the Scottish Cannon Fodder for Afghanistan.
If you want Scots to have a meaningful role in the UK army then yes they will have to go operational the same as everyone else. Alternatively you can cut back the role of Scots, remove this chosen career from many people (no conscripts remember), and have your esteemed leader Kim Jong Eck get up on his hind legs complaining that defence spending is unfairly biased against Scots. As ever, your comments are half baked.
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