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Record numbers crowded into Scots prisons
Exclusive by LUCY ADAMS, Chief ReporterAugust 29 2007
PLEDGE: Kenny MacAskill
PLEDGE: Kenny MacAskill

Scotland's prison population yesterday reached a record high of 7497, with young offenders and those on remand accounting for the bulk of the latest increase.

The average population of the country's prisons - estimated last year provisionally at 7111 - is up more than 9% on the 2005 figure of 6792.

There are also more than 200 prisoners currently on Home Detention Curfew (HDC) - which means they are serving the remainder of their sentence tagged at home. Without HDC the population would be at 7700. The new population high comes as a report reveals growing concern about the lack of support provided to female prisoners when they are released back into the community.

The report, entitled What Life After Prison, was conducted by Circle, a charity which works with children and families affected by drug misuse.

The study, which reveals that women are leaving prison with insufficient help to prevent them returning to a life of crime, will be launched today at Stirling University.

Most women walk out of Scotland's all-female jail with no home to go to and just £47 and a travelcard in their pocket.

They said they feared returning to their "old ways" once released because there was so little support for them - particularly those with drug misuse problems.

Tackling reoffending is a key target of the executive, however, there are just over 6700 places in Scotland's jails, making overcrowding a growing concern for prison chiefs and a major hindrance to rehabilitation programmes.

Alongside its burgeoning overall population, Scotland has one of the fastest-growing female prisoner populations in Europe, despite repeated promises from ministers to reduce the problem.

In the past 10 years, it has more than doubled. Last year, the population of women behind bars reached 365. On the same day in 2002, there were 273 women in jail. There are currently 375 women in Cornton Vale.

Criminal justice experts say the overall figures, which come amid falling crime rates, indicate that Scotland is becoming increasingly punitive, while opponents say the figures undermine promises from a litany of ministers to cut the prison population.

The prison service is planning to build two new jails - one at Addie-well in West Lothian and the other on the site of the existing Low Moss Prison in Bishopbriggs, north of Glasgow. When both are complete there will be room for an extra 1400 prisoners. In addition, developments are planned at four other prisons, which will create more spaces.

Kenny MacAskill, the Justice Secretary, last week announced a new 700-prisoner publicly run jail will be built in the North-east to replace Peterhead and Aberdeen prisons.

He has insisted that prison should not lock up the "flotsam and jetsam" and pledged to establish an independent commission to consider how imprisonment is currently used in Scotland.

"I think there is something manifestly wrong in Scotland when, compared with 20 years ago, the number of crimes committed has fallen by 40,000 but our prison population has increased by almost one-third," he said.


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Posted by: Hard Hearted Hannah, Savannah on 12:25am Wed 29 Aug 07
I blame the Government.

no of course I don't. I blame the criminals. Some people need the jail. They just do.

Do you know what would be nice? If government ministers would stop apologising for the fact that the courts are sending more criminals to jail.

They should get more jail cells built instead, and get more cops and cameras and forensic services so more perpetrators get caught, more criminals are safely convicted, and more convicts are severely punished, with those who need it being locked away for a long time.

All the decent people of Scotland would thank them for it, except for some Herald journalists, and a few social workers and socialist worker sellers. And criminals and their mums. They won't thank them.

Posted by: donald, glasgow on 6:09am Wed 29 Aug 07
Record numbers crowded into Scots prisons
Labour Cooncillors still at large
Posted by: Seumas on 7:06am Wed 29 Aug 07
The simple truth is that problem criminals should be locked up. In England recently there was the high profile case of a child abuser who was given some sort of community order nonsense – let’s not forget about the victims.

Unfortunately, most of those who are involved with sentencing policy are seldom the victims of these problem criminals. Even when the criminals are convicted to a term of imprisonment it can hardly be called a punishment. I heard on the radio the other day of a prisoner who was complaining because she had to LEAVE prison and therefore wouldn’t get to finish some course or other she was doing!

I understand that prisons are costly, but for the non-violent offender prisons could be built quite cheaply in isolated areas. The use of natural barriers such as water, or razor wire and electric fencing, should be sufficient to contain the non-violent criminals who cause distress to many thousands of people. Shoplifters, aggressive beggars, abusive drunkards etc must be taken out of decent society until they have mended their ways.
Posted by: Albert Einstein on 8:45am Wed 29 Aug 07
The world s a dangerous place to live;
not because of the people who are evil,
but because of the people who don't do anything about it.
Posted by: Yok Finney, Ross-shire on 8:50am Wed 29 Aug 07
Some people need the jail. They just do.


In order of malfeasance:

1st ranking of badyins : the members of the Scottish Establishment who fiascoed the Holyrood Parliament project that Benadetta Tagliabue so heroically completed for us, the poeple of Scotland. I mean you Chancellor of Glasgow University. 2 years? 5 years? What's your plea?

2nd dire cases : 90% of Scottish Judges and Sheriffs who'se ignorance of Law, Propriety, Procedure, Justice is legendary and makes our Scotland a laughing stock in the world's eyes if this was in anyway funny (oh and neither is Billy Effin Conoly these days)

3rd : the Procurator Fiscal Service : can you hand over your sexual perverts, and financial fraudsters, or will it be a knock on the door from your masonic brothers in the police. For on this ex SAS with master mariners tickets ex Falklands can pull rank. And we will. Haha we're masons too.

Who's next?
Posted by: Colin B, Bearsden on 9:50am Wed 29 Aug 07
Build more prisons and keep the criminals in longer - at least there they can only re-offend against other offenders. Make parents responsible for youth criminals

The Criminal ( and Civil ) Justice system already discriminates against males

We have to accept there is a lot of scum in Scotland

Social Workers should be removed from the system- Lord Turnbull called them absurd for arguing for non custodial sentence for attmepted murder. SACRO is a criminals lobby group not a reform organisation.

The probelm is McCaskill is going native on the trapping of office and the useless civil servants -lets hope Alex is not. Elish Angiolini is hopeless and was her predecessor plodder Boyd
Posted by: STU, gLASGOW on 11:29am Wed 29 Aug 07
How much is immigration affecting the crime rates. Every country in Europe experiencing mass immigration has seen crime rates increase dramatically directly as a result.
Netherlands went from average to 2nd highest crime rate in Europe.
Sweden crime rates quadroupled.
Norway 2/3 crime in Oslo commited by immigrants.
75% of crime in London by immigrants.

Why has crime rate risen 9% in 2 years ?
Posted by: Lisa natale, U.S.A. Massachuetts on 1:02pm Wed 29 Aug 07
MY name is Lisa Natale, as much as I admirer Scotland, I have limited knowledge of Scotland. There were a few key thought's that stood out after reading the article. 1. economic distress 2. women 3. drugs 4.more prisons 5.a failed proven process that stimulates residual system.( much like the US)Let me digress for pointing out failed approaches. ie.when the medical profession learned that blood letting or impacting the vagina with dirt after imdimident chid bearing-failed proven processes. Today these medical methods are
both gross and silly. Much like our crimimal justice system when dealing with drug related crimes. Which are criminal offenes ,first and foremost.Now the the core of it all (often) an indiivaul that is also sick (in a indoctranated format).Here lies the conundrum.
A mass procsessing system that fails the individual at the end.
(and re-endanger s the communiy at large) this phase has to be re-addressed completey,I don't have grand solutions fom the cheap seats. I'm an old hippie just going to college. But this my take on this
plague, that has us all in grind lock,in appling justice solutions.
Posted by: Ronald, Glasgow on 1:13pm Wed 29 Aug 07
Record numbers of people incarcerated. Record levels of poverty.
the gap between the rich and poor wider than ever. And an extreme right - wing New - Labour Government. Nah, can't be any connection between these facts!
Posted by: vamp from savannnah, Georgia US on 1:52pm Wed 29 Aug 07
Agree with all these sensible comments, with the exception of Lisa who is either going to college to study EFL (English as a Foreign Language) or was indulging one of her old hippie habits while she was writing that post. Far out, man!
Posted by: tim, Dontucker on 1:58pm Wed 29 Aug 07
"Criminal justice experts say the overall figures, which come amid falling crime rates, indicate that Scotland is becoming increasingly punitive, while opponents say the figures undermine promises from a litany of ministers to cut the prison population."
Oh dear, what a conundrumdrumdrum! Could it be the crime rates are falling because the freaking criminals are in jail? Duh!! Ya think just maybe??? (This is just too easy.)
Posted by: Brad, Glasgow on 2:28pm Wed 29 Aug 07
How come you know the stats for all these countries but not Scotland?
Posted by: George Laird, Glasgow on 3:37pm Wed 29 Aug 07
Well let us look at the benefits of going to prison.

1/ Free board.

2/ Free food.

3/ No Council tax.

4/ No Gas or electric bills.

5/ No household chores.

6/ Free Medical and Dental treatment.

7/ Free tv and video games.

8/ Free leisure facilities.

9/ Educational opportunities.

10/ Free clothing.

11/ Learn skills like cooking.

12/ Free teaching how to be a better criminal

13/ Networking opportunities

It appears that prison can offer a lot if a person enters it in the right frame of mind, especially for the aspiring career criminal or terrorist.

Perhaps it would finanically prudent if the Scottish Executive were to put in place measures to attempt to keep people out by offering training opportunities so that these people have some kind of stake in society.

If it costs £30k a year to keep a person locked up doing nothing and paying no taxes.

However Prison does serve a purpose to keep the worst of offenders off the streets.

I would say that there is room for a properly sponsored pilot programme to put a toe in the water.

When you have nothing, you have nothing to lose.

Yours sincerely

George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Posted by: alp, carluke on 4:43pm Wed 29 Aug 07
Everyone makes the assumption that everyone in prison deserves to be there.
Let's take a look at one young 20 year old woman in Cornton Vale.
She had an accident in her car just over 2 years ago at the age of eighteen. Her car clipped the nearside verge of a main trunk road dual carriageway after she was distracted by something in the car or outside the car. She cannot remember because during the crash she had a severe impact to the back of her neck, resulting in a broken neck in five locations. Sadly, her friend in the back of her car, who had refused to wear a seatbelt, did not survive the accident. Both the driver and front seat passenger were wearing seatbelts.
She had to wear a halo frame screwed to her skull and attached to a tight body brace for 3 months and was off work for 5 months.
She pled guilty on three occassions to careless driving but was pursued by the Procurator Fiscal over a 20 month period and dragged through the High Court and put on trial. Her plea was not good enough for him.
The findings of the trial - when she clipped the kerb she was travelling at 55mph. She was in a 40mph zone but was just one and a half seconds out of a 70mph zone on a downhill stretch of this main trunk road dual-carriageway. This was the only thing that she was seen to do wrong. She did not do one other thing wrong - not one thing. She was not overtaking or changing lanes or driving dangerously. Indeed in the trial the Police did not say that her driving was dangerous. She had never had a parking ticket or any other involvement with the Police.
Her sentence - 3 years in prison and a 5 year driving ban.
Her story was featured in the Sunday Mail at her appalling treatment because of a tragic accident.
This is only one instance of why our prisons are overcrowded.
Posted by: Bryan, Glasgow on 7:03pm Wed 29 Aug 07
7497..... GREAT!!!

If there is overcrowding just build more jails. Prison should be a brutal regime that prisoners NEVER want to return to.

Posted by: 'happy bean in baroque pot', still life on 7:25pm Wed 29 Aug 07
Was Mr MacAskill's not portrayed before just a few weeks ago from a different angle though?
As a portraitist I remember faces and portraits.
Posted by: Seumas on 7:54pm Wed 29 Aug 07
Jonny Bond 5:57

Almost everyone shares your distaste for paedophiles, but offering these individuals up to be "ripped limb from limb" is to invite people to break the law and is therefore wrong.

For this category of criminal I think extremely long prison sentences are required in conjuction with chemicals castration. This is certainly one type of offence where a conviction should lead to the criminal's assets being seized (if he has any) and the proceeds from their sale donated to some good cause.

From what Rab Jones above has written the fuction of imprisonment as a form of punishment no longer exists.



Posted by: allymax, dundee on 7:55pm Wed 29 Aug 07
it doesn't take a uni' professor to see what's right in front of you every day. vine from the dundee cop shop says he's gonna start copping the cuffs on mobile phone users while driving. well bliar you pig you give him more power to oppress us, then you give him a gong for doing it.
Posted by: Yok Finney, Ross-shire on 5:40am Thu 30 Aug 07
She was pursued by the Procurator Fiscal over a 20 month period This has happened to me. First my mother, at the trial, was refused entry to the women's public toilet because the 2 PCs about to give evidence were busy concocting their stories -- which still didn't match in Court.

"Who was that dirty minded old man?"

"That, mother, was the Procurator Fiscal."

Who spent all of half an hour slavering over PC T's breast which I allegedly "might" have touched. Thankfully we then adjourned for lunch which I did enjoy with my mother au Bon Appétit.

And the sun was shining outside.

This Crocodile Fisc is hiding under anonymity but I will get my local lawyer to hunt him down. But I am far too busy with my design-engineering business the now, where my concerns are truth and accuracy and it is mentally painfull to then consider a scottish Court. I am not a good multi-tasker.

It got worse as the afternoon wore. Did he not get a good lunch?

"Anyone for a lesbian sexual?" Verbatim : Sheriff Hughes.

These were not my words, nor those of Constable T.

What she in fact said was ...

(But why bother with facts in a scottish Court; where "creative writing" is the order of the day)

This in quite enough, I think, for the morning. I had a look at the popular press at the supermarket and it seems "Daily Star" material. I am not holding © on this, you are welcome to sell them the story.

Buy yourself the Best of Freddie King on CD with your cheque. You'll feel alot better for it. And so will I when I open it at 1.fm 's blues channel.
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