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18 will be minimum age for buying tobacco
KEVIN SCHOFIELDJune 05 2007


Public Health Minister Shona Robison will today announce that the minimum age for buying cigarettes is to be increased from 16 to 18.

The move is the culmination of plans set in motion by Andy Kerr, the health minister in the previous executive.

He said he wanted to increase the age limit as a way of preventing young people from becoming addicted to nicotine early in life.

A consultation exercise by the executive found widespread support for the move among health experts, local authorities and the tobacco firms themselves.

England and Wales have already announced that they will increase the age limit to 18 from October 1, but the decision north of the border was delayed because of the Holyrood election.

Ms Robison will announce that Scotland is following suit during an engagement in Dundee today.

Last night, both pro and anti-smoking campaigners welcomed the move. But they warned it must be backed up by a publicity campaign and strict sanctions against shopkeepers who flout the law.

Maureen Moore OBE, chief executive of ASH Scotland, which lobbies for tobacco control, said: "Scotland has the highest rate of young smokers in Britain so I hope this will help reduce the numbers of young people taking up smoking. The move sends a clear message about the health hazards of tobacco use and also brings Scotland into line with the rest of Britain."

‘Anyone who sells to underage children must be properly penalised’

Ms Moore pointed to a report which last week showed that 82% of 15- year-olds and nearly half of 13-year-olds who smoke claimed to buy their cigarettes from a shop.

She said that cigarette licensing, along the lines of alcohol licensing, should be introduced.

She said: "If the new purchase age is to do any good then effective enforcement of the law, backed by tobacco licensing, is vital."

"Retailers who sell cigarettes to anyone under age must be properly penalised. Licensing means licence suspension and ultimately revocation for repeated violation can be used as enforcement tools as well as implementing a system of fines.

"Licensing would also help the targeting and funding of enforcement efforts. Adequate resources must also be made available to ensure proper enforcement and to run campaigns to back the change."

The Scottish Grocers' Federation, which represents some 5500 stores, called on the executive to introduce free national proof of age cards as a measure against intimidation or abuse of staff.

SGF chief executive John Drummond said: "Proof of age is vital to ensuring that community stores are safe places for consumers and staff alike.

"Reforming the age to smoke continues Scotland's progressive leadership in this area but it must not be done at the expense of the safety of shop workers.

"With 16 and 17-year-olds set to lose their ability to smoke overnight, it is shop workers, not the police or politicians, who will be expected to enforce the law."

Neil Rafferty, spokesman for Forest, which campaigns against smoking restrictions, said the new rules must be effectively policed.

He said: "We've got no problem with raising the age limit to 18 because cigarettes are not for children. The problem is that the existing age limit has not been enforced."

He said the number of prosecutions "is pitifully low and so unless there is a proper enforcement regime to back up this new age limit, then you may as well raise it to 118".


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Posted by: Scott2006, Outside Glasgow on 11:01am Tue 5 Jun 07
You can drive a car at 17. You can drink alcohol in a pub as part of a meal if with your parents. You can get married and have children at 16. When ID cards are brought in by the UK Labour Party - will young people have to show them to an unqualified and unknowledgeable shop worker? Can the police demand to see a young person's ID card if they believe they see someone under 18 smoking in the near future?

Is it only the fact that 18 year olds can vote that stops the next step in smoking control?
A la Methodone Method... which is... you may only be allowed to buy cigarettes if you can prove to your doctor that you are physically emotionally and mentally addicted to nicotine and all the other ingredients of flamable tobacco and can produce a note from your doctor or are registered as an addict with your local store.

It's a drip drip drip of small freedoms disappearing that will change laws long before it changes the lives of poorer sections of our community while overpaid politicians increase police numbers and ask them to police responsibly while introducing petty laws that in many circumstance will be counter-productive.
How many politicians does it take to crack a walnut? If they can't crack it with a hammer - they would change the law that you need a larger hammer if that doesn't do it the law changes that you need a sledge hammer if that fails the law changes so you need a pile-driver. In the end they crack the walnut and all that is left is a middle-class cosy morality and a million more law breakers and another stop on a journey of harrassment for the youth that are perceived to be poor.
Only those frightened rigid of being collared by the police will take notice of this law. Do we really want a youth that can't throw a cigarette away if cornered by the police - as that would be a £50 fine and can't get caught with a cigarette as that is only allowed for those of voting age? What are they supposed to do? Swallow it - or take a ticking off from an overworked PC?
Posted by: RETIRED....... but still switched on, Fed Up To The Teeth on 2:24pm Tue 5 Jun 07
Radical approach needed here.
Why don't we ban them from people OVER 18 ???
Posted by: stef, Edinburgh on 1:39am Wed 6 Jun 07
#Scott2006
Excellent posting....
Scotland felt a little re-vitalised and optimistic following the ousting of McConnells junta.. Oh! dear now we have Ms. Robison MSP SNP, following on with the policies inaugurated by the hapless Andy Kerr and his bunch of lackeys. So we have achieved nothing whatsoever in voting for the SNP,, hopes for that elusive, ' inclusive' society has gone with our wasted votes. The hospitality trade and small business can expect more bankruptcy's and decline whilst the elderly and disabled, effectively remain under house arrest as their places of social interaction disappear 1by1.
We are on the road to creating a truly fascist state where every part of our lives is under surveillance, legislated upon, policed and penalised..
I despair to see The Herald, and the other Scottish rags using quotes and statistics spouted from Maureen Moore IC (Iron Cross)..... ASH are one of the most corrupt unelected political organisations that exist. They are funded by some of the most sinister backers imaginable whilst projecting a public profile of being a caring health charity... Their 'Charitable' status should be examined and their position as a powerful extreme right wing political pressure group be exposed.. Maureen Moore is a most contemptible woman but when you start to look at who is behind her it becomes more apparent as to what is really going on behind our backs.
All these headlines we have read over the last few years ,,, start to add them. piece them together,,, then look at their agenda, it has just as #Scott2006 has described ,,'Its a drip drip drip of our small freedoms disappearing' Maureen Moore IC is only the public face of the 'Control Freak' mentality.
People who believe in freedom of choice, get a disproportionate opportunity to express themselves as opposed to these right wing groups that have control of both the press and media... We gasp!!!! when we read 'Headlines' of the great success of these bans, more signs, policing and punishment concepts whilst what we see in our communities a totally different scene..
What happened to issues like social housing, poverty, hospitals, schools care for the elderly/disabled,, are they too hard for our elected representatives to be dealing with? As opposed to alienating people, working on policies of social exclusion, and now prefer too demonising our teenagers, particularly those between 16-18, then 18-21 yr olds,, What the hell is going on?
I proudly support www.freedom2choose.c



o.uk , we are not pro-smoking we are pro-choice,, I would ask if there are any investigative journalists out there,, also sick and tired, prepared to show the courage,, to expose the attack on all of our fundamental rights and freedoms by these organisation I have mentioned..
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