The naked truth: strip-o-grams could be outlawed
Hen nights and the rugby club's Christmas party may never be the same again.
According to leading figures in Scotland's licensed trade, regulations which will govern the adult entertainment industry will be painted with such a broad brush that strip-o-grams, and possibly even kiss-o-grams, could be severely affected.
Only premises with separate toilet and changing rooms and CCTV coverage would be fit to host such performances''. Despite their popularity the lack of suitable venues could see strip-o-grams become a thing of the past.
Although they have yet to be finally agreed, the Scottish Executive's guidelines on adult entertainment released last year are not expected to change in any significant way.
Targeted primarily at lap and pole dancing clubs, as well as dedicated strip joints, the regulations define adult entertainment as that performed live for an audience, under commercial arrangement, and by a person whose actions are erotic or explicitly sexual.
The proposals to govern the trade include ensuring dancers are 18 and over, that the public cannot participate or touch the performers, private booths are removed, CCTV cameras covering the entire area are to the satisfaction of the chief constable and that separate toilets and changing facilities need to be provided exclusively for the performers.
Sources have told The Herald that in dialogue with the executive officials have claimed that strip-o-grams would, in all likelihood, be swallowed up in the new guidelines.
Yesterday, the executive could only say it would be up to the new administration after Thursday's election to decide on guidelines and that after that it would be down to individual licensing boards.
But Janet Hood, of the British Institute of Innkeeping and a former executive adviser, said the word erotic was such a catch-all term that strip-o-grams were almost certain to be caught up by default.
She said: "It must be remembered this isn't strip clubs we are talking about. These events are generally just harmless fun for giggles more than titillation.
"There is a huge market for these entertainments and it would appear that they will be things of the past in a short time.
"I suspect no, or certainly very few, mainstream licensees would consider going to the expense of complying with the regulations in the off-chance a strip-o-gram might pitch up."
Paul Waterson, chief executive of the Scottish Licensed Trade Association, said: "They can be harmless fun but strip-o-grams can get a bit raunchy and things have been known to get a bit wild. But that said the issue yet again is the executive not thinking things through and taking a catch-all approach."
Last night, the owner of one Glasgow-based strip-o-gram firm admitted being fearful for the future . He said: "Things are hard enough without being lumped in with lap dancing clubs and strip joints."
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Posted by: donald anderson, glasgow on 7:56am Sat 28 Apr 07
The Emperor has nae claes - and nae seats next week.
The Emperor has nae claes - and nae seats next week.
Posted by: Neil 9% Growth Party, Glasgow on 10:49am Sat 28 Apr 07
The same vindictive politically correct puritanism which brought in the smoking ban. Doubtless we will be told that passive enjoyment at looking at sexy women can harm you.
It should be remembered that the smoking ban was supported by all parties - Scotland's political class, not merely one party, is the problem.
Among the 26 things we support & the other parties almost unanimously oppose was not merely ending the smoking ban but:
16) No new politically correct vindictive bans. The smoking ban was NOT in manifestos at the last election.
I must admit I had thought they would get the election over before announcing such things.
The same vindictive politically correct puritanism which brought in the smoking ban. Doubtless we will be told that passive enjoyment at looking at sexy women can harm you.
It should be remembered that the smoking ban was supported by all parties - Scotland's political class, not merely one party, is the problem.
Among the 26 things we support & the other parties almost unanimously oppose was not merely ending the smoking ban but:
16) No new politically correct vindictive bans. The smoking ban was NOT in manifestos at the last election.
I must admit I had thought they would get the election over before announcing such things.
Posted by: M Thompson, Carluke on 1:28pm Sat 28 Apr 07
Same as the legislation on the smoking ban!
A Heavy Goods Vehicle driver can leave his/her operating centre, work all over Britain alone in the cab of the H.G.V. and not come back for two or more days. The cab is their work place and their home. During this time, they can cook, eat, sleep, phone a friend, watch TV in the cab but are not allowed to smoke, by law, in Scotland
Prisoners in their cells are allowed to smoke.
Why did the Scottish Parliament give convicted criminals more rights than hard working H.G.V. drivers?
Same as the legislation on the smoking ban!
A Heavy Goods Vehicle driver can leave his/her operating centre, work all over Britain alone in the cab of the H.G.V. and not come back for two or more days. The cab is their work place and their home. During this time, they can cook, eat, sleep, phone a friend, watch TV in the cab but are not allowed to smoke, by law, in Scotland
Prisoners in their cells are allowed to smoke.
Why did the Scottish Parliament give convicted criminals more rights than hard working H.G.V. drivers?
Posted by: Alex OBrien, Glasgow on 1:28pm Sat 28 Apr 07
Another instance of the state interfering where there really is no need.
No doubt we will be getting a new brigade of snoopers to add to the traffic,tobacco, dog,emmision wardens et al.
You couldnt make it up.
Another instance of the state interfering where there really is no need.
No doubt we will be getting a new brigade of snoopers to add to the traffic,tobacco, dog,emmision wardens et al.
You couldnt make it up.
Posted by: Benson Gallagher, In the car on 5:14pm Sat 28 Apr 07
[quote][bold]M Thompson[/bold] wrote:
Same as the legislation on the smoking ban! A Heavy Goods Vehicle driver can leave his/her operating centre, work all over Britain alone in the cab of the H.G.V. and not come back for two or more days. The cab is their work place and their home. During this time, they can cook, eat, sleep, phone a friend, watch TV in the cab but are not allowed to smoke, by law, in Scotland Prisoners in their cells are allowed to smoke. Why did the Scottish Parliament give convicted criminals more rights than hard working H.G.V. drivers? [/quote] When I was in Education, I was allowed to smoke in my own car. Thanks a bloody bunch Education Authority. Here's the laugh though...if I went to a meeting in my car - and took a passenger - I wouldn't be allowed to smoke. Answer...passenger told to **** off and get the bus.
M Thompson wrote:
Same as the legislation on the smoking ban! A Heavy Goods Vehicle driver can leave his/her operating centre, work all over Britain alone in the cab of the H.G.V. and not come back for two or more days. The cab is their work place and their home. During this time, they can cook, eat, sleep, phone a friend, watch TV in the cab but are not allowed to smoke, by law, in Scotland Prisoners in their cells are allowed to smoke. Why did the Scottish Parliament give convicted criminals more rights than hard working H.G.V. drivers?
When I was in Education, I was allowed to smoke in my own car. Thanks a bloody bunch Education Authority. Here's the laugh though...if I went to a meeting in my car - and took a passenger - I wouldn't be allowed to smoke. Answer...passenger told to **** off and get the bus.
Posted by: bamba, leith on 5:17pm Sat 28 Apr 07
As I and the Clan Haggis watch the goings-on of Stag and Hen groupings stagger through the night in various stages of undress and stupor, we simply shake our heads and hope they get home safely! As to the banning of Stripograms, I would ask of the politicians who are contemplating such a move - "Hiv' yi' no' goatt onythin' bettir tae be dain'?"
As I and the Clan Haggis watch the goings-on of Stag and Hen groupings stagger through the night in various stages of undress and stupor, we simply shake our heads and hope they get home safely! As to the banning of Stripograms, I would ask of the politicians who are contemplating such a move - "Hiv' yi' no' goatt onythin' bettir tae be dain'?"
Posted by: Neil 9% Growth Party, Glasgow on 12:21pm Sun 29 Apr 07
Yes but they aren't doing it.
Measures like this allow them to give the appearance of activity.
For most people in time of peace the top issue is "Its the economy stupid" to quote the charmless Clinton. The amount of inactivity of our MSPs on improving the economy is mountanous.
Yes but they aren't doing it.
Measures like this allow them to give the appearance of activity.
For most people in time of peace the top issue is "Its the economy stupid" to quote the charmless Clinton. The amount of inactivity of our MSPs on improving the economy is mountanous.
Posted by: J F Crawford, Newton Mearns on 2:57pm Sun 29 Apr 07
The smoking ban has nothing whatsoever to do with 'political correctness. It is a measure designed to make vast improvements in the health of the nation (as was the provision of clean supplies of drinking water). There's nothing to stop you're HGV driver pulling up and getting out to smoke if he feels he has to: a prisoner cannot!
The smoking ban has nothing whatsoever to do with 'political correctness. It is a measure designed to make vast improvements in the health of the nation (as was the provision of clean supplies of drinking water). There's nothing to stop you're HGV driver pulling up and getting out to smoke if he feels he has to: a prisoner cannot!
Posted by: David Cheetham, Toowoomba , Queensland Australia on 11:26pm Sun 29 Apr 07
No wonder The Naked Rambler (Steve Gough)is still in Prison in Edinbourgh after trying to hike naked the length of Britain! He got as far as Scotland in 1995 and has been in prison ever since for BOP. His accommodation costs are now over 108,000 Pounds.The Scots do not like anything nekked it seems, even if nobody is offended.
No wonder The Naked Rambler (Steve Gough)is still in Prison in Edinbourgh after trying to hike naked the length of Britain! He got as far as Scotland in 1995 and has been in prison ever since for BOP. His accommodation costs are now over 108,000 Pounds.The Scots do not like anything nekked it seems, even if nobody is offended.
Posted by: tony sager, england on 11:06pm Tue 8 May 07
layby; area to the side of the road where smoking lorry drivers congregate.
layby; area to the side of the road where smoking lorry drivers congregate.
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