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Schools set to back scheme for vocational courses at colleges
ALISON CHIESAJune 06 2008

PUPILS preferring a vocational rather than an academic career will be able to spend half a week of their school time at college or university under the first scheme of its kind in Scotland.

The scheme, which is due to start in August, applies to fifth and sixth-year pupils in East Renfrewshire.

So far, 380 pupils in the council's seven secondary schools and one special school have applied for the £400,000 scheme which timetables the vocational hours into their school week as full recognition that the vocational and academic streams have equal weight and importance.

Universities and colleges taking part include the Strathclyde University, Glasgow Caledonian University, Langside College, Cardonald College, Glasgow Metropolitan College and Glasgow College of Nautical Studies.

As project partners, they are offering a wide range of courses under the East Renfrewshire programme, ranging from child care through catering for support-needs pupils from Isobel Mair School, to an HND in engineering at Glasgow Caledonian University.

On completion, the HND can lead to second-year entry into a degree course after leaving school.

The development replaces an existing vocational scheme in which 80 third and fourth-year pupils have been attending colleges for one or two days per week and extends the range of vocational courses to appeal to a wider range of pupils in fifth and sixth year.

The council believes that moving vocational education to fifth and sixth year will be much more effective.

John Wilson, director of education, said: "This is an exciting new scheme involving our schools and the universities and colleges.

"It comes out of our work on A Curriculum for Excellence and reflects our excellent relationship with the post-school sector.

"The scheme ensures our secondary pupils and, crucially, their parents and employers, recognise that we give as much weight to the vocational route as we do to the academic, and allows those pupils who wish, to follow a clear and appropriate vocational path towards a career."

The East Renfrewshire schools that are taking part are Williamwood, Woodfarm, Eastwood, Mearns Castle, Barrhead, St Ninian's and St Luke's High School, and Isobel Mair School.


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Posted by: Lobeydosser, Woodlands Road on 12:45am Fri 6 Jun 08
This is not news, it is old hat.

Schools and colleges were able to do this anyway, and have been for the past few years; so no news there, then.

Is this the new buch of graduates?
Posted by: thedoc, Glasgow on 8:57am Fri 6 Jun 08
"This is not news, it is old hat.

Schools and colleges were able to do this anyway, and have been for the past few years; so no news there, then".


This is not old hat. If you read the article properly you will see that this new initaitive is targeted at S5 and S6 pupils - pupils who will have achieved acdemic qualifications in S4 and S5 - rather than young pupils in S3/4who will not have achived any previous qualifications. This is an exciting initiative providing opportunities for our qualified young people to follow a vocational route, which is what the economy needs, rather than going to university, where too many go to study courses of no value to the economy and run up thousands of pounds of personal debt.
Posted by: Lobeydosser, Woodlands Road on 1:27pm Fri 6 Jun 08
Ok fair enough doc, but my reading of it again, is that it is a change to the current system, so it is half-old hat. The reason I say that is that some friend have their teenager mixing and matching school and college courses with spending part of the week at school and the other at college.

I am not deriding the idea; it is an excellent one, especially as we need vocationally trained people and it is a lot cheaper or more affordable. However I was just trying to work out the difference between this scheme and the one my friends kids were on.
Posted by: thedoc, Glasgow on 3:28pm Fri 6 Jun 08
However I was just trying to work out the difference between this scheme and the one my friends kids were on.

The main difference as far as I can see is that the previous scheme was generally, although not always, undertaken by the disaffecetd with the academic route and the schols were keen to get them out of the classroom and into college away from the teachers. This is about enabling bright pupils to follow an vocational route rather than them being channeled in to higher education where we already have too many doing courses of no relevance to the economy. This was fine in my day when it didn't cost you anything, but today they run up huge debts.
Posted by: dippy, newton mearns on 10:06pm Sun 8 Jun 08
Vocational education is about the experience it brings to the young person helping them with the transition from school to FE, HE or employment.

yes these programmes have been running for a few years but only for s3 or s4 this takes it to the next level.
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