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Salmond: Back my Budget or I will seek election
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Alex Salmond says he will quit and seek fresh Holyrood elections if he does not win today's knife-edge vote on the SNP government's Budget.
The First Minister challenged his opponents not to vote down the spending plans, knowing that Labour, in particular, is poorly positioned to fight a campaign and could be punished at the polls for being seen to force an election.
A source close to Mr Salmond said last night that if MSPs cannot agree the plans, it should be for the people to decide on them. He signalled that an election campaign would feature the SNP's populist call for a council tax freeze while warning that Budget defeat would deprive them of £144m from April.
"There are serious implications if Parliament were not to support the Budget," he said. "We're at the heart of minority government here. Opposition parties have decisions to make - very major decisions with very major consequences and that's true for every group in the parliament.
"If parliament doesn't want the Budget, it would be appropriate for the issues to be taken to the people."
Unlike Westminster, the head of government cannot simply call for a dissolution. Mr Salmond would have to get a two-thirds majority for dissolving the parliament, or there would be a dissolution if
his opponents failed to form an administration within 28 days. He also has the alternative, if the Budget is defeated, of bringing back an amended spending plan as an emergency measure.
Last night one senior Labour MP branded the First Minister's ultimatum as "grandstanding", claiming his threat to quit was only made in the full knowledge that sufficient support for the Budget plans had already been gained from Opposition groups.
Tom Harris, Glasgow South MP, told The Herald: "This is cynical grandstanding by Alex Salmond. He's already done a deal with the Tories, it is all just an empty threat."
However, the SNP government claimed discussions on the support of Conservatives, Greens and independent MSP Margo MacDonald were "ongoing". But the SNP, with 47 votes, is confident that it can count on their support to reach the minimum 65 votes it needs for a majority.
Part of the deal-making process was an exchange of letters yesterday in which the SNP's junior
justice minister, Fergus Ewing, spelled out to Tory justice spokesman Bill Aitken how he intends to meet the Conservative demands on drugs policy.
Conservatives have also used their 16-MSP leverage for more spending to recruit 500 more police by 2011, and await an announcement today from Finance Secretary John Swinney, which is expected to meet the third demand of accelerating
the introduction of a small
businesses' rates relief scheme.
The two Green MSPs are also holding out for a further concession this afternoon. They have told Mr Swinney they want an increase in the £57m bus subsidy budget, which current SNP plans would cut in cash terms.
Mr Swinney was last night keeping his final concessions to a three-hour debate this afternoon. Tories and Greens say they are leaving it until they hear the wording of his speech to decide if they will back him, while Labour, which has opposed the Budget up to now, refused to comment on the election brinkmanship.
In London, Labour's Holyrood leader, Wendy Alexander, told the Scottish Trades Union Congress that the SNP Budget would fail vulnerable people.
But with the Electoral Commission expected to decide at its meeting today how to handle the results of an investigation into an illegal donation to her leadership campaign, her attempts to win support for party and policy reforms have been overshadowed by doubts on whether she can hang on to the leadership.
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Posted by: Duns Scotus, The Borders on 12:01am Wed 6 Feb 08
PtbS where are you?
Posted by: Duns Scotus, The Borders on 12:03am Wed 6 Feb 08
[quote]Tom Harris, Glasgow South MP[/quote] Who he? Hee haw.
Tom Harris, Glasgow South MP
Who he? Hee haw.
Posted by: Proud to be Scottish, Glasgow on 12:05am Wed 6 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Duns Scotus[/bold] wrote:
PtbS where are you?[/quote] Duns you are a very, very sad man.
You cannot possibly have read the story in 1 minute - you just posted straight away.
GET A LIFE
Duns Scotus wrote:
PtbS where are you?
Duns you are a very, very sad man.
You cannot possibly have read the story in 1 minute - you just posted straight away.
GET A LIFE
Posted by: Grahamski, Falkirk on 12:05am Wed 6 Feb 08
It's not up to Alex Salmond whether there will be an election. Power-mad unhinged and delusional. His First Ministership has been punctuated by posturing, trouble-making and grandstanding. Meanwhile frontline services are being cut to pay for his council tax freeze...he shames the office of FM and if he had a decent bone in his body he would go now.
It's not up to Alex Salmond whether there will be an election. Power-mad unhinged and delusional. His First Ministership has been punctuated by posturing, trouble-making and grandstanding. Meanwhile frontline services are being cut to pay for his council tax freeze...he shames the office of FM and if he had a decent bone in his body he would go now.
Posted by: Proud to be Scottish, Glasgow on 12:07am Wed 6 Feb 08
Wendy is of course correct - the SNP couldn't give a hoot about the vulnerable in society.
SNP = Tartan Tories.
Labour have taken overe 100 00 kids straight out of poverty
Labour has carefully managed the largest era of economic growth in Scotland
Labour cares for those that do not have a voice.
Call an election Eck, you will be obliterated
Wendy is of course correct - the SNP couldn't give a hoot about the vulnerable in society.
SNP = Tartan Tories.
Labour have taken overe 100 00 kids straight out of poverty
Labour has carefully managed the largest era of economic growth in Scotland
Labour cares for those that do not have a voice.
Call an election Eck, you will be obliterated
Posted by: Proud to be Scottish, Glasgow on 12:09am Wed 6 Feb 08
Where the buzzing gnats???!!! - you would normally have posted 30 posts between the three of you by now.
Still awaiting instructions from Bute House no doubt
Where the buzzing gnats???!!! - you would normally have posted 30 posts between the three of you by now.
Still awaiting instructions from Bute House no doubt
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 12:09am Wed 6 Feb 08
Is this really necessary from Salmond?
We can do without this kind of 'ultimatum' - he should just things run there course, if labour/libs/torys vote done the budget then maybe is the time for this.....
I'm not convinced this kind of tactic will go down well with floating voters, the kind that the SNP needs to convince if they are to return a a better majority in 2011.
By all means stress the fact that voting down the budget would create serious problems at this stage for local government and seriously dent the Scottish Government's st5anding and would be reason enough to ask for a vote of confidence..... but I get the feeling that this type of article just won't play well, will distract people form the key issues of the budget and play into Labour's hands by allowing them to point to Salmond as an ego gone wild....
Probably the first move I've disagreed with by the SNP in 8 Months.
Is this really necessary from Salmond?
We can do without this kind of 'ultimatum' - he should just things run there course, if labour/libs/torys vote done the budget then maybe is the time for this.....
I'm not convinced this kind of tactic will go down well with floating voters, the kind that the SNP needs to convince if they are to return a a better majority in 2011.
By all means stress the fact that voting down the budget would create serious problems at this stage for local government and seriously dent the Scottish Government's st5anding and would be reason enough to ask for a vote of confidence..... but I get the feeling that this type of article just won't play well, will distract people form the key issues of the budget and play into Labour's hands by allowing them to point to Salmond as an ego gone wild....
Probably the first move I've disagreed with by the SNP in 8 Months.
Posted by: Duns Scotus, The Borders on 12:09am Wed 6 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Proud to be Scottish[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Duns Scotus[/bold] wrote: PtbS where are you?[/quote] Duns you are a very, very sad man. You cannot possibly have read the story in 1 minute - you just posted straight away. GET A LIFE[/quote] Of course I didn't read it all. But I'm a happy man because Salmond has outwitted the unionists. It appears to me that perhaps you are the sad one, for you could not see my little joke. I've got a life, may I suggest you get a sense of humour?
Proud to be Scottish wrote:
Duns Scotus wrote: PtbS where are you?
Duns you are a very, very sad man. You cannot possibly have read the story in 1 minute - you just posted straight away. GET A LIFE
Of course I didn't read it all. But I'm a happy man because Salmond has outwitted the unionists. It appears to me that perhaps you are the sad one, for you could not see my little joke. I've got a life, may I suggest you get a sense of humour?
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 12:13am Wed 6 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Proud to be Scottish[/bold] wrote:
Wendy is of course correct - the SNP couldn't give a hoot about the vulnerable in society.
SNP = Tartan Tories.
Labour have taken overe 100 00 kids straight out of poverty
Labour has carefully managed the largest era of economic growth in Scotland
Labour cares for those that do not have a voice.
Call an election Eck, you will be obliterated[/quote] Pat Watters of COSLA has already made the comment that Labour have said more about the 'vulnerable' & the 'dispossessed' in the last 6 months that they said in 8 years in Government.....
Labour presides over some of the worst poverty in Western Europe in Glasgow PtbS, there's nothing there to be proud of.....must try harder
Proud to be Scottish wrote:
Wendy is of course correct - the SNP couldn't give a hoot about the vulnerable in society.
SNP = Tartan Tories.
Labour have taken overe 100 00 kids straight out of poverty
Labour has carefully managed the largest era of economic growth in Scotland
Labour cares for those that do not have a voice.
Call an election Eck, you will be obliterated
Pat Watters of COSLA has already made the comment that Labour have said more about the 'vulnerable' & the 'dispossessed' in the last 6 months that they said in 8 years in Government.....
Labour presides over some of the worst poverty in Western Europe in Glasgow PtbS, there's nothing there to be proud of.....must try harder
Posted by: AM2, Glasgow on 12:14am Wed 6 Feb 08
Salmond's ego will be his downfall. The signs are more obvious by the day.
Salmond's ego will be his downfall. The signs are more obvious by the day.
Posted by: Alastair, Aberdeen on 12:15am Wed 6 Feb 08
PtbS:
Given that Alex Salmond and the SNP are wiping the floor with the rump of slab, I would say that you, not Duns are the sad, sad man, especially given your defence of the completely indefensible money-grubbing going on in your ranks. No, I would say Duns is a very happy man!
PtbS:
Given that Alex Salmond and the SNP are wiping the floor with the rump of slab, I would say that you, not Duns are the sad, sad man, especially given your defence of the completely indefensible money-grubbing going on in your ranks. No, I would say Duns is a very happy man!
Posted by: BM, Glasgow on 12:15am Wed 6 Feb 08
Alex Salmond seems to be in a win-win situation. Either he gets his budget through or there is an election. With the Labour party in total disarray over the Wendy affair, what better time could there be for this, with an increased majority all but assured?
Alex Salmond seems to be in a win-win situation. Either he gets his budget through or there is an election. With the Labour party in total disarray over the Wendy affair, what better time could there be for this, with an increased majority all but assured?
Posted by: Stuart Braithwaite, Scotland on 12:16am Wed 6 Feb 08
This is a ballsy move and one that makes perfect sense. The position of the Lib Dems since the election has been nothing short of pathetic and if they vote the budget down "because their pals are going to" then they deserve electoral obliteration, which will inevitably happen.
This is a ballsy move and one that makes perfect sense. The position of the Lib Dems since the election has been nothing short of pathetic and if they vote the budget down "because their pals are going to" then they deserve electoral obliteration, which will inevitably happen.
Posted by: Proud to be Scottish, Glasgow on 12:17am Wed 6 Feb 08
Wardog
I was just about to hold you up as an example of a reasonable nat (with reference to your first post) as opposed to the gnat that is duns then you go and post nonsense at 12.13.
These baseless allegations about poverty are often made but never supported by hard fact.
One can only presume you a troll sir
Wardog
I was just about to hold you up as an example of a reasonable nat (with reference to your first post) as opposed to the gnat that is duns then you go and post nonsense at 12.13.
These baseless allegations about poverty are often made but never supported by hard fact.
One can only presume you a troll sir
Posted by: David on 12:19am Wed 6 Feb 08
[bold]Alex Salmond will not allow the SNP Government to have the good measures for Scotland be stolen by opportunists. A wee threat to get the greedy parties off his back.[/bold]
Alex Salmond will not allow the SNP Government to have the good measures for Scotland be stolen by opportunists. A wee threat to get the greedy parties off his back. Posted by: John J. Sheridan, Z'ha'dum on 12:19am Wed 6 Feb 08
Bring it on then.
Stop talking and ask the electorate.
I am sick of you unionist pratts and your crap.
Vote against, lets have an election.
Ask the people.
SHitbags the lot of you/.
Bring it on then.
Stop talking and ask the electorate.
I am sick of you unionist pratts and your crap.
Vote against, lets have an election.
Ask the people.
SHitbags the lot of you/.
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 12:19am Wed 6 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Grahamski[/bold] wrote:
It's not up to Alex Salmond whether there will be an election. Power-mad unhinged and delusional. His First Ministership has been punctuated by posturing, trouble-making and grandstanding. Meanwhile frontline services are being cut to pay for his council tax freeze...he shames the office of FM and if he had a decent bone in his body he would go now.[/quote] The article is quite clear that the process would be simply that voting down the budget would essentially be a vote of 'no confidence' by the parliament.... triggering the opposition parties to form an administration and if unsuccessful then Scotland would go to the polls...
It's unfortunate that it's going be reported as an 'ultimatum' (as I've mentioned above this isn't attractive to voters) but essentially a vote against the budget means exactly that......
I can't see any other way of progressing in that scenario (it is after all uncharted waters if the budget is voted down) - the Council Tax Freeze is the best thing to happen in years, bring on the Local Income Tax......
Grahamski, you should be signing it's praises, no bills for pensioners and reduced ones for all those on low incomes...... hopefully they will eventually bring in the inheritance tax reforms that the Tories are talking about, it s asure fired vote winner - who wants to spend a life working to just give over everything to the Government...... that's no incentive to work....
Grahamski wrote:
It's not up to Alex Salmond whether there will be an election. Power-mad unhinged and delusional. His First Ministership has been punctuated by posturing, trouble-making and grandstanding. Meanwhile frontline services are being cut to pay for his council tax freeze...he shames the office of FM and if he had a decent bone in his body he would go now.
The article is quite clear that the process would be simply that voting down the budget would essentially be a vote of 'no confidence' by the parliament.... triggering the opposition parties to form an administration and if unsuccessful then Scotland would go to the polls...
It's unfortunate that it's going be reported as an 'ultimatum' (as I've mentioned above this isn't attractive to voters) but essentially a vote against the budget means exactly that......
I can't see any other way of progressing in that scenario (it is after all uncharted waters if the budget is voted down) - the Council Tax Freeze is the best thing to happen in years, bring on the Local Income Tax......
Grahamski, you should be signing it's praises, no bills for pensioners and reduced ones for all those on low incomes...... hopefully they will eventually bring in the inheritance tax reforms that the Tories are talking about, it s asure fired vote winner - who wants to spend a life working to just give over everything to the Government...... that's no incentive to work....
Posted by: Alastair, Aberdeen on 12:20am Wed 6 Feb 08
PtbS:
I was at church last Sunday, and our minister, a pretty switched on kind of guy, ran through some pretty damning statistics. Want to hear some? These are two for starters. In the last 10 years:
1: Homelessness in Scotland has increased by 120%
2: The gap between the richest and the poorest has increased by over 100%
Now, guess who has been in power for all but 9 months of the last 10 years. Care to comment?
PtbS:
I was at church last Sunday, and our minister, a pretty switched on kind of guy, ran through some pretty damning statistics. Want to hear some? These are two for starters. In the last 10 years:
1: Homelessness in Scotland has increased by 120%
2: The gap between the richest and the poorest has increased by over 100%
Now, guess who has been in power for all but 9 months of the last 10 years. Care to comment?
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 12:22am Wed 6 Feb 08
Proud To Be A Balloon[quote]Duns you are a very, very sad man[/quote] You wish. truth is, you're the dumbest poster on the forum.
Proud To Be A Balloon
Duns you are a very, very sad man
You wish. truth is, you're the dumbest poster on the forum.
Posted by: pehman, sussex on 12:22am Wed 6 Feb 08
From the article;-
Last night one senior Labour MP branded the First Minister's ultimatum as "grandstanding", claiming his threat to quit was only made in the full knowledge that sufficient support for the Budget plans had already been gained from Opposition groups
Note the slab spokesman said opposition groups
While later in the article this appears;-
while Labour, which has opposed the Budget " up to now," refused to comment on the election brinkmanship.
The story as I've just heard it goes like this
Slab approached the SNP yesterday/ today and said they'll back the budget IF the SNP accept slabs program of apprentiseships
The SNP yes we would like to support this as a worthwhile proposal,
But we have no more cash to offer
So an agreement is reach whereby the apprentises scheme can go ahead in the future
Sorted------- No news leaks out that slab are preparing a press release saying that slab have snatched back the agenda--
Enter AS AND MAKES HIS BACK ME OR SACK ME Speech thus forcing slabs hand to do just that and keep the SNP agenda.
The SNP have made the concession ------- the ball is now in slabs court (no pun intended wendy)
If slab don't want an election, then they have a way out by supporting the apprentices
From the article;-
Last night one senior Labour MP branded the First Minister's ultimatum as "grandstanding", claiming his threat to quit was only made in the full knowledge that sufficient support for the Budget plans had already been gained from Opposition groups
Note the slab spokesman said opposition groups
While later in the article this appears;-
while Labour, which has opposed the Budget " up to now," refused to comment on the election brinkmanship.
The story as I've just heard it goes like this
Slab approached the SNP yesterday/ today and said they'll back the budget IF the SNP accept slabs program of apprentiseships
The SNP yes we would like to support this as a worthwhile proposal,
But we have no more cash to offer
So an agreement is reach whereby the apprentises scheme can go ahead in the future
Sorted------- No news leaks out that slab are preparing a press release saying that slab have snatched back the agenda--
Enter AS AND MAKES HIS BACK ME OR SACK ME Speech thus forcing slabs hand to do just that and keep the SNP agenda.
The SNP have made the concession ------- the ball is now in slabs court (no pun intended wendy)
If slab don't want an election, then they have a way out by supporting the apprentices
Posted by: John J. Sheridan, Z'ha'dum on 12:22am Wed 6 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Los Angeles[/bold] wrote:
Proud To Be A Balloon[quote]Duns you are a very, very sad man[/quote] You wish. truth is, you're the dumbest poster on the forum.
[/quote] Indeed.
Los Angeles wrote:
Proud To Be A BalloonDuns you are a very, very sad man
You wish. truth is, you're the dumbest poster on the forum.
Indeed.
Posted by: Scotsgait, www.scotsgait.co.uk on 12:23am Wed 6 Feb 08
There may well be an election called in the next few days but it won't be Alex Salmond calling it and most of us won't be voting in it.
There may well be an election called in the next few days but it won't be Alex Salmond calling it and most of us won't be voting in it.
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 12:25am Wed 6 Feb 08
If Gordon Brown was caught with his trousers down in the doggy style sex position with Douglas Alexander or David Cairns while John Reid looked on smoking a joint and the photos were published in the News of the World.
Glaswegians would still vote labour. like votes for like, ned vermin votes for ned vermin I suppose. Sad but true.
If Gordon Brown was caught with his trousers down in the doggy style sex position with Douglas Alexander or David Cairns while John Reid looked on smoking a joint and the photos were published in the News of the World.
Glaswegians would still vote labour. like votes for like, ned vermin votes for ned vermin I suppose. Sad but true.
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 12:25am Wed 6 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Proud to be Scottish[/bold] wrote:
Wardog
I was just about to hold you up as an example of a reasonable nat (with reference to your first post) as opposed to the gnat that is duns then you go and post nonsense at 12.13.
These baseless allegations about poverty are often made but never supported by hard fact.
One can only presume you a troll sir [/quote] PtbS - Shettleston was just on the new again tonight for having a male life expectancy of 54, 70% of adults having addictions and in Glasgow having over 26% on benefits, 50% incapacity benefit in Shettleston.....
I';m by no means drubbing Glasgow, have lived there in a past life and love the place and I'm well aware that the poverty is historical but Steven Purcell's (whom I rate quite highly) acceptance was that the aspiration fo these areas hasn't changed in 50+ years....
Labour have a stranglehold on Glasgow and it's surrounding areas, one only has to visit the fabled North Lanarkshire area to see the bad policy and squandered monies that Labour has failed to deliver for these people..... it is sickening....
The best thing that has happened for many of these areas was the lottery, at least some of there cash is redirected into grassroots youth, sports and education projects...... the rest ....well who knows....
Proud to be Scottish wrote:
Wardog
I was just about to hold you up as an example of a reasonable nat (with reference to your first post) as opposed to the gnat that is duns then you go and post nonsense at 12.13.
These baseless allegations about poverty are often made but never supported by hard fact.
One can only presume you a troll sir
PtbS - Shettleston was just on the new again tonight for having a male life expectancy of 54, 70% of adults having addictions and in Glasgow having over 26% on benefits, 50% incapacity benefit in Shettleston.....
I';m by no means drubbing Glasgow, have lived there in a past life and love the place and I'm well aware that the poverty is historical but Steven Purcell's (whom I rate quite highly) acceptance was that the aspiration fo these areas hasn't changed in 50+ years....
Labour have a stranglehold on Glasgow and it's surrounding areas, one only has to visit the fabled North Lanarkshire area to see the bad policy and squandered monies that Labour has failed to deliver for these people..... it is sickening....
The best thing that has happened for many of these areas was the lottery, at least some of there cash is redirected into grassroots youth, sports and education projects...... the rest ....well who knows....
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 12:26am Wed 6 Feb 08
AM-Skewered[quote]Salmond's ego will be his downfall.[/quote] Oh, no! AM-Squared projects his failings onto another yet again. Very Freudian and very amusing,
AM-Skewered
Salmond's ego will be his downfall.
Oh, no! AM-Squared projects his failings onto another yet again. Very Freudian and very amusing,
Posted by: dws on 12:26am Wed 6 Feb 08
[quote][bold]AM2[/bold] wrote:
Salmond's ego will be his downfall. The signs are more obvious by the day.[/quote] In your dreams.
There are quite a few "ego's" around in politics at the moment. One of them is ominously silent because of the knives protruding from her back.
Do you really think Labour are ready for an election?
AM2 wrote:
Salmond's ego will be his downfall. The signs are more obvious by the day.
In your dreams.
There are quite a few "ego's" around in politics at the moment. One of them is ominously silent because of the knives protruding from her back.
Do you really think Labour are ready for an election?
Posted by: Mac Coinnich, London on 12:26am Wed 6 Feb 08
I see the yahoo unionist lacky's are giving it large again. Lets get something straight so called proud to be Scottish (my er**!) Your beloved British state masters are the Party of poverty & you kid only yourself with your piffel about labour cares for those without a voice. They the labour party are, when not invading sovereign states the party who thrive on poverty the Kings of nepotism but they just love jokers like you & the rest of the hand oot mob to pay for their public jobs for the boys / girls, their political careers & pensions. When the English boot them into touch & they will because the hate the west of Scotland mafia & the dependancy culture you people have engenderd you people will have to earn money not spend other people's money like the low life dregs that make up the gangsters of the Scottish & unionist labour mafia do for a living, the lot of you drop dead with your deep fried pizza!
I see the yahoo unionist lacky's are giving it large again. Lets get something straight so called proud to be Scottish (my er**!) Your beloved British state masters are the Party of poverty & you kid only yourself with your piffel about labour cares for those without a voice. They the labour party are, when not invading sovereign states the party who thrive on poverty the Kings of nepotism but they just love jokers like you & the rest of the hand oot mob to pay for their public jobs for the boys / girls, their political careers & pensions. When the English boot them into touch & they will because the hate the west of Scotland mafia & the dependancy culture you people have engenderd you people will have to earn money not spend other people's money like the low life dregs that make up the gangsters of the Scottish & unionist labour mafia do for a living, the lot of you drop dead with your deep fried pizza!
Posted by: Scamp on 12:26am Wed 6 Feb 08
Proud to be Scottish says:
[quote]Labour has carefully managed the largest era of economic growth in Scotland[/quote]
I'm sure you're a nice chap but you really are on the wrong planet. Most of the economic growth in Scotland has been due to growth in the public sector, house price inflation and lending. That's growth but unfortunately it's the wrong type of growth.
Proud to be Scottish says:
Labour has carefully managed the largest era of economic growth in Scotland
I'm sure you're a nice chap but you really are on the wrong planet. Most of the economic growth in Scotland has been due to growth in the public sector, house price inflation and lending. That's growth but unfortunately it's the wrong type of growth.
Posted by: doonhamer on 12:27am Wed 6 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Proud to be Scottish[/bold] wrote:
Wendy is of course correct - the SNP couldn't give a hoot about the vulnerable in society. SNP = Tartan Tories. Labour have taken overe 100 00 kids straight out of poverty Labour has carefully managed the largest era of economic growth in Scotland Labour cares for those that do not have a voice. Call an election Eck, you will be obliterated[/quote] So we agree.. call an election.. SNP and Labour more than enough votes needed to pass two thirds.
Proud to be Scottish wrote:
Wendy is of course correct - the SNP couldn't give a hoot about the vulnerable in society. SNP = Tartan Tories. Labour have taken overe 100 00 kids straight out of poverty Labour has carefully managed the largest era of economic growth in Scotland Labour cares for those that do not have a voice. Call an election Eck, you will be obliterated
So we agree.. call an election.. SNP and Labour more than enough votes needed to pass two thirds.
Posted by: watz, g31 on 12:28am Wed 6 Feb 08
proud to be scottish-so, you've never been in glasgow?
proud to be scottish-so, you've never been in glasgow?
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 12:28am Wed 6 Feb 08
Scotsgait Goes Fir His Gun[quote]There may well be an election called in the next few days but it won't be Alex Salmond calling it and most of us won't be voting in it.[/quote] Is their a new sheriff in town?
Scotsgait Goes Fir His Gun
There may well be an election called in the next few days but it won't be Alex Salmond calling it and most of us won't be voting in it.
Is their a new sheriff in town?
Posted by: Cynicus, Scotland on 12:28am Wed 6 Feb 08
What makes the First Minister or any of the above SIObS (single-issue obsessives) think that an election is within Salmond's gift, if the budget is defeated?
What makes the First Minister or any of the above SIObS (single-issue obsessives) think that an election is within Salmond's gift, if the budget is defeated?
Posted by: John J. Sheridan, Z'ha'dum on 12:30am Wed 6 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Wullie[/bold] wrote:
If Gordon Brown was caught with his trousers down in the doggy style sex position with Douglas Alexander or David Cairns while John Reid looked on smoking a joint and the photos were published in the News of the World.
Glaswegians would still vote labour. like votes for like, ned vermin votes for ned vermin I suppose. Sad but true.[/quote] For once I agree with you wullie.
I was born and brought up in Glasgow and I love the city.
But you are correct in one way, the moronic element will vote ' jist like ma faither ' and that is depressing.
I have known many, many very astute astute and clever Glaswegians in my time but they are sickened by the actions of nu labour in the council.
It has become almost a city of despair.
None of that makes wullie right.....!
Wullie wrote:
If Gordon Brown was caught with his trousers down in the doggy style sex position with Douglas Alexander or David Cairns while John Reid looked on smoking a joint and the photos were published in the News of the World.
Glaswegians would still vote labour. like votes for like, ned vermin votes for ned vermin I suppose. Sad but true.
For once I agree with you wullie.
I was born and brought up in Glasgow and I love the city.
But you are correct in one way, the moronic element will vote ' jist like ma faither ' and that is depressing.
I have known many, many very astute astute and clever Glaswegians in my time but they are sickened by the actions of nu labour in the council.
It has become almost a city of despair.
None of that makes wullie right.....!
Posted by: Proud to be Scottish, Glasgow on 12:35am Wed 6 Feb 08
Well goodnight gnats, us normal people will leave you to another night of slapping each on other on the back, and swarming around any dissent.
Duns, isn't the only one requiring a life - you all know how you are
Well goodnight gnats, us normal people will leave you to another night of slapping each on other on the back, and swarming around any dissent.
Duns, isn't the only one requiring a life - you all know how you are
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 12:40am Wed 6 Feb 08
Proud To Be A Balloon[quote]Well goodnight gnats[/quote] Yes, even balloons need beauty sleep...
Proud To Be A Balloon
Well goodnight gnats
Yes, even balloons need beauty sleep...
Posted by: pehman, sussex on 12:41am Wed 6 Feb 08
The story as I've just heard it goes like this
Slab approached the SNP yesterday/ today and said they'll back the budget IF the SNP accept slabs program of apprentiseships
The SNP yes we would like to support this as a worthwhile proposal,
But we have no more cash to offer
So an agreement is reach whereby the apprentises scheme can go ahead in the future
Sorted------- No news leaks out that slab are preparing a press release saying that slab have snatched back the agenda--
Enter AS AND MAKES HIS BACK ME OR SACK ME Speech thus forcing slabs hand to do just that and keep the SNP agenda.
The SNP have made the concession ------- the ball is now in slabs court (no pun intended wendy)
If slab don't want an election, then they have a way out by supporting the apprentices
The story as I've just heard it goes like this
Slab approached the SNP yesterday/ today and said they'll back the budget IF the SNP accept slabs program of apprentiseships
The SNP yes we would like to support this as a worthwhile proposal,
But we have no more cash to offer
So an agreement is reach whereby the apprentises scheme can go ahead in the future
Sorted------- No news leaks out that slab are preparing a press release saying that slab have snatched back the agenda--
Enter AS AND MAKES HIS BACK ME OR SACK ME Speech thus forcing slabs hand to do just that and keep the SNP agenda.
The SNP have made the concession ------- the ball is now in slabs court (no pun intended wendy)
If slab don't want an election, then they have a way out by supporting the apprentices
Posted by: Carnwarth, Carnwarth on 12:42am Wed 6 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Proud to be Scottish[/bold] wrote:
Wendy is of course correct - the SNP couldn't give a hoot about the vulnerable in society. SNP = Tartan Tories. Labour have taken overe 100 00 kids straight out of poverty Labour has carefully managed the largest era of economic growth in Scotland Labour cares for those that do not have a voice. Call an election Eck, you will be obliterated[/quote] When in power Scottish NuLabor deliver more poverty, a greater gap between rich and poor and dawn raids on refugee children. Your grip on reality is very weak which is, of course, a good thing as it means NuLabor is going nowhere!
Proud to be Scottish wrote:
Wendy is of course correct - the SNP couldn't give a hoot about the vulnerable in society. SNP = Tartan Tories. Labour have taken overe 100 00 kids straight out of poverty Labour has carefully managed the largest era of economic growth in Scotland Labour cares for those that do not have a voice. Call an election Eck, you will be obliterated
When in power Scottish NuLabor deliver more poverty, a greater gap between rich and poor and dawn raids on refugee children. Your grip on reality is very weak which is, of course, a good thing as it means NuLabor is going nowhere!
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 12:43am Wed 6 Feb 08
Cynicus Coins An Acronym[quote]SIObS[/quote] Clunk! Thud.
Cynicus Coins An Acronym
SIObS
Clunk! Thud.
Posted by: subrosa on 12:43am Wed 6 Feb 08
Whit's Wendydoing at a Scottish Trades Union Congress in LONDON? (See towards the end). Auch maybe she'll be down there for her orders and to have Gordon hold her hand when the EC result comes through.
Whit's Wendydoing at a Scottish Trades Union Congress in LONDON? (See towards the end). Auch maybe she'll be down there for her orders and to have Gordon hold her hand when the EC result comes through.
Posted by: Cynicus, Scotland. on 12:44am Wed 6 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Wullie[/bold] wrote:
If Gordon Brown was caught with his trousers down in the doggy style sex position with Douglas Alexander or David Cairns while John Reid looked on smoking a joint and the photos were published in the News of the World.
Glaswegians would still vote labour. like votes for like, ned vermin votes for ned vermin I suppose. Sad but true.[/quote] Don't be fooled by Wullie, Aberdeen
He is NO "cyberNat " ( © Lord George Fuchs) but is, in fact, a SLAB troll who masquerades as a Nat and makes outrageous posts in a bid to discredit the SNP. Go on, Wullie , deny it.
Wullie wrote:
If Gordon Brown was caught with his trousers down in the doggy style sex position with Douglas Alexander or David Cairns while John Reid looked on smoking a joint and the photos were published in the News of the World.
Glaswegians would still vote labour. like votes for like, ned vermin votes for ned vermin I suppose. Sad but true.
Don't be fooled by Wullie, Aberdeen
He is NO "cyberNat " ( © Lord George Fuchs) but is, in fact, a SLAB troll who masquerades as a Nat and makes outrageous posts in a bid to discredit the SNP. Go on, Wullie , deny it.
Posted by: dws on 12:45am Wed 6 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Proud to be Scottish[/bold] wrote:
Well goodnight gnats, us normal people will leave you to another night of slapping each on other on the back, and swarming around any dissent. Duns, isn't the only one requiring a life - you all know how you are [/quote] You're a sad weasel PtbS.
I'm off tto bed.
Sweet dreams.
Proud to be Scottish wrote:
Well goodnight gnats, us normal people will leave you to another night of slapping each on other on the back, and swarming around any dissent. Duns, isn't the only one requiring a life - you all know how you are
You're a sad weasel PtbS.
I'm off tto bed.
Sweet dreams.
Posted by: scotsborn, Aberdeen on 12:45am Wed 6 Feb 08
I think the Glaswegians might surprise your (hope so, too). The Bliar was too thick the thatch and even the most dyed-in-the-wool labour voter could see what he was (is) - A TORY, like the rest of his crooked party
I think the Glaswegians might surprise your (hope so, too). The Bliar was too thick the thatch and even the most dyed-in-the-wool labour voter could see what he was (is) - A TORY, like the rest of his crooked party
Posted by: Cynicus, Scotland on 12:45am Wed 6 Feb 08
Los Angeles: a sad SIOb story
Los Angeles: a sad SIOb story
Posted by: Cynicus, Scotland on 12:48am Wed 6 Feb 08
Hey, Los Angeles: Ever thought of changing your moniker to McGonagall?
Hey, Los Angeles: Ever thought of changing your moniker to McGonagall?
Posted by: Cynicus, Scotland on 12:49am Wed 6 Feb 08
Bit slow, tonight LA.
Bang!
Bit slow, tonight LA.
Bang!
Posted by: DouglasT, kirkintilloch on 12:50am Wed 6 Feb 08
voting down the budget could be taken as a vote of no confidence by the parliament so, if AS resigns, its for the opposition parties to form an administration - now who would lead that group, Wendy? Nicol? Goldie? bit of a problem then :)
Could be that Wendy he may even be otherwise engaged tomorrow :)
voting down the budget could be taken as a vote of no confidence by the parliament so, if AS resigns, its for the opposition parties to form an administration - now who would lead that group, Wendy? Nicol? Goldie? bit of a problem then :)
Could be that Wendy he may even be otherwise engaged tomorrow :)
Posted by: Cynicus, Scotland on 12:51am Wed 6 Feb 08
LA: You are not Wullie are you? I thought that was Lord Fuchs.
LA: You are not Wullie are you? I thought that was Lord Fuchs.
Posted by: Cynicus, Scotland on 12:52am Wed 6 Feb 08
Can't wait all night. I will expose the cross-dressers (on both sides) come daylight.
GN SIObS
Can't wait all night. I will expose the cross-dressers (on both sides) come daylight.
GN SIObS
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 12:55am Wed 6 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Proud to be Scottish[/bold] wrote:
Well goodnight gnats, us normal people will leave you to another night of slapping each on other on the back, and swarming around any dissent.
Duns, isn't the only one requiring a life - you all know how you are
[/quote] I have an update for you on Aviemore, I know you love the place dearly.... the Scottish Government is about to publish all of the correspondence and Campbell Gemmell, Sepa's chief executive has said that "Our minister put us under no pressure to withdraw our objection."
Sepa raised concerns about possible flooding problems for homes in Aviemore if the 140-house development went ahead, and asked for a flood-risk assessment from the developer. After ministers sought calrification on SEPA's processes, SEPA withdrew its objections.
Campbell Gemmell confirmed "Our decision was made [bold]purely[/bold] on environmental grounds."
Are you going to the Labour conferenc ein Aviewmore this year PtbS
Say hullo tae the previous Deputy Chairman of SEPA, a £995 donor to Wendy Alexander's Leadership 'Campaign' will ye!
Proud to be Scottish wrote:
Well goodnight gnats, us normal people will leave you to another night of slapping each on other on the back, and swarming around any dissent.
Duns, isn't the only one requiring a life - you all know how you are
I have an update for you on Aviemore, I know you love the place dearly.... the Scottish Government is about to publish all of the correspondence and Campbell Gemmell, Sepa's chief executive has said that "Our minister put us under no pressure to withdraw our objection."
Sepa raised concerns about possible flooding problems for homes in Aviemore if the 140-house development went ahead, and asked for a flood-risk assessment from the developer. After ministers sought calrification on SEPA's processes, SEPA withdrew its objections.
Campbell Gemmell confirmed "Our decision was made
purely on environmental grounds."
Are you going to the Labour conferenc ein Aviewmore this year PtbS
Say hullo tae the previous Deputy Chairman of SEPA, a £995 donor to Wendy Alexander's Leadership 'Campaign' will ye!
Posted by: WJ, Ayrshire on 12:55am Wed 6 Feb 08
As a result of AS pledge, Labour find themselves in the nightmare scenario here.
In addition to the recent report highly critical of Lab/Lib plans to shut A&E units, and the report highlighting the appalling levels of poverty under their watch, in addition to their admission of law breaking in relation to misappropriated funds, plus the referral of their leader to the Procurator Fiscal for contravention of standards legislation - are they really going to set themselves up as the party that voted against a council tax freeze?
Ready to portray themselves as the party that rode roughshod over the wishes and agreements of many of their local authority brethern?
Ready to show themselves to be the party that brought national and local government to a halt purely on party political grounds?
Are they really ready and willing to show themselves as such on the very same day their leader and/or senior party members may be referred to the police for criminal investigation/prosec
ution?
They'll be a long time dead in Scottish politics if they do.
As a result of AS pledge, Labour find themselves in the nightmare scenario here.
In addition to the recent report highly critical of Lab/Lib plans to shut A&E units, and the report highlighting the appalling levels of poverty under their watch, in addition to their admission of law breaking in relation to misappropriated funds, plus the referral of their leader to the Procurator Fiscal for contravention of standards legislation - are they really going to set themselves up as the party that voted against a council tax freeze?
Ready to portray themselves as the party that rode roughshod over the wishes and agreements of many of their local authority brethern?
Ready to show themselves to be the party that brought national and local government to a halt purely on party political grounds?
Are they really ready and willing to show themselves as such on the very same day their leader and/or senior party members may be referred to the police for criminal investigation/prosec
ution?
They'll be a long time dead in Scottish politics if they do.
Posted by: Carnwarth, Carnwarth on 12:56am Wed 6 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Cynicus[/bold] wrote:
Can't wait all night. I will expose the cross-dressers (on both sides) come daylight. GN SIObS[/quote] Reduce your drinking now.
Cynicus wrote:
Can't wait all night. I will expose the cross-dressers (on both sides) come daylight. GN SIObS
Reduce your drinking now.
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 12:57am Wed 6 Feb 08
Juankerr: Play Fair[quote]I really hope they do call his bluff and vote for an early election.[/quote] I cannot see them doing it because they are in utter disarray, held in low esteem if not contempt by the public. How can they go out canvassing voters' trust when all the time accusations of illegality and sleaze trail in their wake?
"Trust me, I am your Labour candidate."
"Trust me, Lib-Dems refuse to take and share power."
"Trust me. It's not easy being Green.'
No. Somehow I don't think the chancers will chance it. Salmond has their lack of integrity by the very throat ...
Juankerr: Play Fair
I really hope they do call his bluff and vote for an early election.
I cannot see them doing it because they are in utter disarray, held in low esteem if not contempt by the public. How can they go out canvassing voters' trust when all the time accusations of illegality and sleaze trail in their wake?
"Trust me, I am your Labour candidate."
"Trust me, Lib-Dems refuse to take and share power."
"Trust me. It's not easy being Green.'
No. Somehow I don't think the chancers will chance it. Salmond has their lack of integrity by the very throat ...
Posted by: subrosa on 1:02am Wed 6 Feb 08
Can nobody tell me why the Scottish Trades Union Congress is being held in LONDON and Wendy's been speaking at it today? Please someone give me a response.
Can nobody tell me why the Scottish Trades Union Congress is being held in LONDON and Wendy's been speaking at it today? Please someone give me a response.
Posted by: Ronald, Glasgow on 1:03am Wed 6 Feb 08
"Sister" Wendy I salute you! The woman is clearly a saintly figure.
Vunrable two year olds, poor pensioners, sad little puppy dogs,
and the "good Sister Wendy feels their pain. Wendy - I am sure I speak for millions of the poor, needy and oppresed who cannot fail to be touched by your gentle, caring touch. ................
NOW SOD OFF BACK TO YOUR MANSION AND DO US ALL A FAVOUR -RETIRE FROM PUBLIC LIFE BECAURE YOU HAVE
ALL THE CREDIBILITY AND SINCERITY OF A CRACK-WHORE !
"Sister" Wendy I salute you! The woman is clearly a saintly figure.
Vunrable two year olds, poor pensioners, sad little puppy dogs,
and the "good Sister Wendy feels their pain. Wendy - I am sure I speak for millions of the poor, needy and oppresed who cannot fail to be touched by your gentle, caring touch. ................
NOW SOD OFF BACK TO YOUR MANSION AND DO US ALL A FAVOUR -RETIRE FROM PUBLIC LIFE BECAURE YOU HAVE
ALL THE CREDIBILITY AND SINCERITY OF A CRACK-WHORE !
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 1:03am Wed 6 Feb 08
Don't mock him, Sheridan. That's about as intellectual as Graham of Glasgow can get. he's away to soak his head in bath salts to stop it throbbing.
Don't mock him, Sheridan. That's about as intellectual as Graham of Glasgow can get. he's away to soak his head in bath salts to stop it throbbing.
Posted by: subrosa on 1:04am Wed 6 Feb 08
I notice the Daily Express now has a Scottish online section. See the menu on main page.
I notice the Daily Express now has a Scottish online section. See the menu on main page.
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 1:06am Wed 6 Feb 08
Subrosa Subway[quote]I notice the Daily Express now has a Scottish online section[/quote] Any good, Subrosa?
Subrosa Subway
I notice the Daily Express now has a Scottish online section
Any good, Subrosa?
Posted by: subrosa on 1:07am Wed 6 Feb 08
Aye doesn't seem too bad LA, space for comments too.
Aye doesn't seem too bad LA, space for comments too.
Posted by: John J. Sheridan, Z'ha'dum on 1:09am Wed 6 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Los Angeles[/bold] wrote:
Don't mock him, Sheridan. That's about as intellectual as Graham of Glasgow can get. he's away to soak his head in bath salts to stop it throbbing.[/quote] Thanks LA....but trust me ..I am just in the mood for a coward like him.
But I know his balls are small.
Prove me wrong Graham.
Los Angeles wrote:
Don't mock him, Sheridan. That's about as intellectual as Graham of Glasgow can get. he's away to soak his head in bath salts to stop it throbbing.
Thanks LA....but trust me ..I am just in the mood for a coward like him.
But I know his balls are small.
Prove me wrong Graham.
Posted by: Graham, Glasgow on 1:09am Wed 6 Feb 08
La, 12:27. The Snpee lost their integrity when they took Souters Gold and did a deal with Souters real Party, The Tories. I bet it really makes you spew. Harrumph. Any new transport deals going for Stagecoach that you know of you LA Socialist!![bold]bold[/bold]
La, 12:27. The Snpee lost their integrity when they took Souters Gold and did a deal with Souters real Party, The Tories. I bet it really makes you spew. Harrumph. Any new transport deals going for Stagecoach that you know of you LA Socialist!!
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 1:11am Wed 6 Feb 08
[quote][bold]subrosa[/bold] wrote:
Can nobody tell me why the Scottish Trades Union Congress is being held in LONDON and Wendy's been speaking at it today? Please someone give me a response.[/quote] [bold]UNION DIVIDEND[/bold] evidently....
I hear they are auditioning for 'Annie' and that Wendy is keen to 'get inside the minds' of a 'dispossessed vulnerable two year old'
subrosa wrote:
Can nobody tell me why the Scottish Trades Union Congress is being held in LONDON and Wendy's been speaking at it today? Please someone give me a response.
UNION DIVIDEND evidently....
I hear they are auditioning for 'Annie' and that Wendy is keen to 'get inside the minds' of a 'dispossessed vulnerable two year old'
Posted by: subrosa on 1:11am Wed 6 Feb 08
Just looked more closely at it LA, they're behind the times by about a day I'd say.
Just looked more closely at it LA, they're behind the times by about a day I'd say.
Posted by: Graham, Glasgow on 1:12am Wed 6 Feb 08
Sheridan, 1:01. Anytime HEN.[bold]bold[/bold]
Sheridan, 1:01. Anytime HEN.
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 1:12am Wed 6 Feb 08
Graham of Gurgle[quote]LA Socialist!![/quote] I often refer to [italic]The Big Issue[/italic] as "Homeless and Gardenless."
Graham of Gurgle
LA Socialist!!
I often refer to
The Big Issue as "Homeless and Gardenless."
Posted by: subrosa on 1:14am Wed 6 Feb 08
Now now Wardog, that's too sensible a reason :) I think Mr Salmond should have a wee word with the Unions and tell them it's actually better for their imagine to have their Congress in Scotland as they call themselves Scottish.
Now now Wardog, that's too sensible a reason :) I think Mr Salmond should have a wee word with the Unions and tell them it's actually better for their imagine to have their Congress in Scotland as they call themselves Scottish.
Posted by: John J. Sheridan, Z'ha'dum on 1:16am Wed 6 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote:
La, 12:27. The Snpee lost their integrity when they took Souters Gold and did a deal with Souters real Party, The Tories. I bet it really makes you spew. Harrumph. Any new transport deals going for Stagecoach that you know of you LA Socialist!![bold]bold[/bold] [/quote] Please tell me you are not the moron you seem to be.
I would hate to kick the crap out of someone who was beyond the normal world.
This is not the normal me speaking you understand, merely the one who loves his mother and hates blowhard cowards.
Graham wrote:
La, 12:27. The Snpee lost their integrity when they took Souters Gold and did a deal with Souters real Party, The Tories. I bet it really makes you spew. Harrumph. Any new transport deals going for Stagecoach that you know of you LA Socialist!!
Please tell me you are not the moron you seem to be.
I would hate to kick the crap out of someone who was beyond the normal world.
This is not the normal me speaking you understand, merely the one who loves his mother and hates blowhard cowards.
Posted by: John J. Sheridan, Z'ha'dum on 1:17am Wed 6 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote:
Sheridan, 1:01. Anytime HEN.[bold]bold[/bold] [/quote] Name the place sonny
Graham wrote:
Sheridan, 1:01. Anytime HEN.
Name the place sonny
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 1:21am Wed 6 Feb 08
[quote][bold]subrosa[/bold] wrote:
Now now Wardog, that's too sensible a reason :) I think Mr Salmond should have a wee word with the Unions and tell them it's actually better for their imagine to have their Congress in Scotland as they call themselves Scottish.[/quote] Aye, there was a murmur earlier in the week that the SNP had progressed some of their recent agreements with the big unions and that they were generally happy with the way Scotland was being Governed....
I've always been a little taken aback by the Union's continual support for the New labour Project despite their major falling out.... Labour don't have a monopoly on workers rights, hopefully the Scottish Government's moves regarding nurses & police pay will start to open eyes a little....
Until the Union's invoke a 'opt in' policy for their political funding then I can only view them as the same as Big Business, no different..... It's Time that some local democracy was maybe brought to the trade union executive committee's decision making in this regard.....
subrosa wrote:
Now now Wardog, that's too sensible a reason :) I think Mr Salmond should have a wee word with the Unions and tell them it's actually better for their imagine to have their Congress in Scotland as they call themselves Scottish.
Aye, there was a murmur earlier in the week that the SNP had progressed some of their recent agreements with the big unions and that they were generally happy with the way Scotland was being Governed....
I've always been a little taken aback by the Union's continual support for the New labour Project despite their major falling out.... Labour don't have a monopoly on workers rights, hopefully the Scottish Government's moves regarding nurses & police pay will start to open eyes a little....
Until the Union's invoke a 'opt in' policy for their political funding then I can only view them as the same as Big Business, no different..... It's Time that some local democracy was maybe brought to the trade union executive committee's decision making in this regard.....
Posted by: Graham, Glasgow on 1:22am Wed 6 Feb 08
LA,1:12. This gurgle is fast and furious. I have to say that it is not nice to be homeless, but you do get on with. It would be nice to have a wee gerden![bold]bold[/bold]
LA,1:12. This gurgle is fast and furious. I have to say that it is not nice to be homeless, but you do get on with. It would be nice to have a wee gerden!
Posted by: scotsborn, Aberdeen on 1:24am Wed 6 Feb 08
subrosa
Can nobody tell me why the Scottish Trades Union Congress is being held in LONDON and Wendy's been speaking at it today? Please someone give me a response.
Can nobody tell me why the Scottish Trades Union Congress is being held in LONDON and Wendy's been speaking at it today? Please someone give me a response.
The TUC is based in London, the STUC is just a regional office.
subrosa
Can nobody tell me why the Scottish Trades Union Congress is being held in LONDON and Wendy's been speaking at it today? Please someone give me a response.
Can nobody tell me why the Scottish Trades Union Congress is being held in LONDON and Wendy's been speaking at it today? Please someone give me a response.
The TUC is based in London, the STUC is just a regional office.
Posted by: John J. Sheridan, Z'ha'dum on 1:24am Wed 6 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote:
LA,1:12. This gurgle is fast and furious. I have to say that it is not nice to be homeless, but you do get on with. It would be nice to have a wee gerden![bold]bold[/bold] [/quote] Hey , big mouth...name a place and time.
Sometimes you can overstep the mark and you did.
Have some balls.
Graham wrote:
LA,1:12. This gurgle is fast and furious. I have to say that it is not nice to be homeless, but you do get on with. It would be nice to have a wee gerden!
Hey , big mouth...name a place and time.
Sometimes you can overstep the mark and you did.
Have some balls.
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 1:26am Wed 6 Feb 08
AM-Albatross[quote]I apologise in advance for any further drivel that will no doubt emenate from my alter-ego.[/quote] Doppelganger.
AM-Squid likes to bite off more than he can chew and we can swallow.
And on the Western Front: Obama is doing well over here..
AM-Albatross
I apologise in advance for any further drivel that will no doubt emenate from my alter-ego.
Doppelganger.
AM-Squid likes to bite off more than he can chew and we can swallow.
And on the Western Front: Obama is doing well over here..
Posted by: alba nach, USA on 1:29am Wed 6 Feb 08
PTBS - you are Wendy Alexander, and I claim my 5 pounds.
PTBS - you are Wendy Alexander, and I claim my 5 pounds.
Posted by: John J. Sheridan, Z'ha'dum on 1:31am Wed 6 Feb 08
I am waiting Graham.
Posted by: John J. Sheridan, Z'ha'dum on 1:34am Wed 6 Feb 08
How about right now big mouth?
How about right now big mouth?
Posted by: John J. Sheridan, Z'ha'dum on 1:36am Wed 6 Feb 08
Still waiting big mouth....
Still waiting big mouth....
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 1:39am Wed 6 Feb 08
The mean comments from anti-nationhood trolls are as damp and draughty as an empty public urinal, and stink twice as bad.
The mean comments from anti-nationhood trolls are as damp and draughty as an empty public urinal, and stink twice as bad.
Posted by: John J. Sheridan, Z'ha'dum on 1:45am Wed 6 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Los Angeles[/bold] wrote:
The mean comments from anti-nationhood trolls are as damp and draughty as an empty public urinal, and stink twice as bad.[/quote] I bow to a wiser head.
Los Angeles wrote:
The mean comments from anti-nationhood trolls are as damp and draughty as an empty public urinal, and stink twice as bad.
I bow to a wiser head.
Posted by: Graham, Glasgow on 1:45am Wed 6 Feb 08
LA, 1:39AM. Thats one of your best yet LA. Did you get it from Churchill. I recall him saying something about a municipal drainpipe![bold]bold[/bold]
LA, 1:39AM. Thats one of your best yet LA. Did you get it from Churchill. I recall him saying something about a municipal drainpipe!
Posted by: Scunnert, Travelling in Nihlon on 1:46am Wed 6 Feb 08
Posted by: Grahamski, Falkirk on 12:05am today;
Weak - very weak!
Posted by: Grahamski, Falkirk on 12:05am today;
Weak - very weak!
Posted by: John J. Sheridan, Z'ha'dum on 1:47am Wed 6 Feb 08
Good night LA and thanks for the wee stopknot.
Good night LA and thanks for the wee stopknot.
Posted by: Graham, Glasgow on 1:49am Wed 6 Feb 08
Sheridan. 1:45am. That sounded like someone that does crawl up drainpipes towards the excrement.[bold]bold[/bold]
Sheridan. 1:45am. That sounded like someone that does crawl up drainpipes towards the excrement.
Posted by: John J. Sheridan, Z'ha'dum on 1:49am Wed 6 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote:
LA, 1:39AM. Thats one of your best yet LA. Did you get it from Churchill. I recall him saying something about a municipal drainpipe![bold]bold[/bold] [/quote] You still around?
Say your peace blowhard.
Graham wrote:
LA, 1:39AM. Thats one of your best yet LA. Did you get it from Churchill. I recall him saying something about a municipal drainpipe!
You still around?
Say your peace blowhard.
Posted by: Scunnert, Travelling in Nihlon on 1:50am Wed 6 Feb 08
Wardog: Get a grip!
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 1:51am Wed 6 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Scunnert[/bold] wrote:
Wardog: Get a grip! [/quote] Regarding what?
Scunnert wrote:
Wardog: Get a grip!
Regarding what?
Posted by: Scunnert, Travelling in Nihlon on 1:51am Wed 6 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Stuart Braithwaite[/bold] wrote:
This is a ballsy move and one that makes perfect sense. The position of the Lib Dems since the election has been nothing short of pathetic and if they vote the budget down "because their pals are going to" then they deserve electoral obliteration, which will inevitably happen.[/quote] Spot on Stuart!
Stuart Braithwaite wrote:
This is a ballsy move and one that makes perfect sense. The position of the Lib Dems since the election has been nothing short of pathetic and if they vote the budget down "because their pals are going to" then they deserve electoral obliteration, which will inevitably happen.
Spot on Stuart!
Posted by: John J. Sheridan, Z'ha'dum on 1:51am Wed 6 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Graham[/bold] wrote:
Sheridan. 1:45am. That sounded like someone that does crawl up drainpipes towards the excrement.[bold]bold[/bold] [/quote] Maybe Graham.
But I have no knowledge of your mother.
Woul
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