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SNP criticises Alexander’s month of ‘self-imposed silence’
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Labour's Holyrood leader Wendy Alexander was accused yesterday of going on a month-long "self-imposed silence" since the Electoral Commission began investigating an illegal donation to her leadership campaign.
The SNP's Roseanna Cunningham said that by Friday a full month would have passed without the Labour leader
giving any interviews or answering any questions.
But Labour sources accused the Perth MSP of showing a lack of respect for due process now that the Electoral Commission is investigating the matter.
Ms Cunningham said: "It is ridiculous that the leader of Scotland's opposition has maintained her vow of silence for nearly a month. What kind of leadership or opposition is that? Silence is golden but Scotland deserves better from the leader of the opposition."
The Herald broke the
story on November 29 about the donation of just under £1000 from Jersey-based
businessman Paul Green to Ms Alexander's leadership campaign coffers.
As he cannot register to vote in UK elections he is barred from making political donations, but Ms Alexander's campaign team went ahead and solicited the money.
Cathcart MSP Charlie Gordon paid for that with his place in Labour's shadow cabinet. Ms Alexander insisted that she had e-mails which cleared her of any involvement in the illegal donation, although she sent a handwritten note to Jersey thanking Mr Green.
Ms Cunningham said yesterday: "Wendy's problems have made her a lame duck leader and it's time both she and the Labour Party thought long and hard about this
strategy.
"With Scottish MPs rebelling against her leadership, Wendy Alexander seems increasingly isolated.
"The Electoral Commission must report as early as possible and as Ms Alexander and her team have admitted breaking the law it seems the only place for this investigation to go is either straight to the police or the procurator-fiscal. Breaking the law is breaking the law."
But a Scottish Labour spokesman insisted last night: "Wendy Alexander has fully co-operated with the Electoral Commission. Due process is under way and must be respected."
The Electoral Commission has been unable to give any estimate of how long its investigation will take, or whether it is likely to be followed by a referral to the police. The issue of an illegal donation to Ms Alexander's leadership campaign could not have come at a worse time for Labour, which was coming under fire for accepting £600,000 in donations through proxies acting on behalf of the North of England property developer David Abrahams.
The Metropolitan Police are investigating whether anyone should be charged over this illegal use of go-betweens.
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Posted by: Dougie Douglas, Brisbane on 12:09am Wed 2 Jan 08
"The SNP are showing a lack of respect for due process"
The irony of that statement obviously escapes the intellectual colussus that is the labour 'source' - if labour had acknowledged due process they wouldn't be in this pickle in the first place.
"The SNP are showing a lack of respect for due process"
The irony of that statement obviously escapes the intellectual colussus that is the labour 'source' - if labour had acknowledged due process they wouldn't be in this pickle in the first place.
Posted by: Saul Tyre, Germany on 12:11am Wed 2 Jan 08
As the song goes: [italic]she says it best when she says nothing at all[/italic] .
As the song goes:
she says it best when she says nothing at all .
Posted by: Bruce, Glasgow on 12:12am Wed 2 Jan 08
[quote]But Labour sources accused the Perth MSP of showing a lack of respect for due process now that the Electoral Commission is investigating the matter.[/quote]
[bold]She doesn't have to talk abotu the donations, there's plenty of other topics she can talk about, she simply only needs to say 'no commnet' - how hard can it be.... she's obviously on strict orders from the king of the dissapearing act himself, Mcavity
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[quote]Breaking the law is breaking the law[/quote]
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But Labour sources accused the Perth MSP of showing a lack of respect for due process now that the Electoral Commission is investigating the matter.
She doesn't have to talk abotu the donations, there's plenty of other topics she can talk about, she simply only needs to say 'no commnet' - how hard can it be.... she's obviously on strict orders from the king of the dissapearing act himself, Mcavity
Breaking the law is breaking the law
100% Posted by: Eckwatch on 12:21am Wed 2 Jan 08
Poor old Roseanna. The vindictive Ewing clan ensured she would never be SNP leader. Eck has sidelined her and made sure she never gets her feet under a ministerial desk. Now she's reduced to being the conduit for all the snide stuff the Eckster would like to say himself but mindful of his position daren't.
It's not worth it Rosie. You're finished in the SNP and you must know it. No matter how willing you are to be Eck's gopher. Unless you've a few hundred grand to loan them. Then you'll walk into government like Jim Mather. But a lifetime's devotion to the cause means nothing to the New Nats as Big Margo found out before you and you are learning the hard way
Poor old Roseanna. The vindictive Ewing clan ensured she would never be SNP leader. Eck has sidelined her and made sure she never gets her feet under a ministerial desk. Now she's reduced to being the conduit for all the snide stuff the Eckster would like to say himself but mindful of his position daren't.
It's not worth it Rosie. You're finished in the SNP and you must know it. No matter how willing you are to be Eck's gopher. Unless you've a few hundred grand to loan them. Then you'll walk into government like Jim Mather. But a lifetime's devotion to the cause means nothing to the New Nats as Big Margo found out before you and you are learning the hard way
Posted by: doonhamer on 12:25am Wed 2 Jan 08
Poor wee lass, every time she wants to say something, Maggie Broon won't let her. So she has to let Andy Kerr, Jackie Bailie and the rest of the bunch do it for her. That explains the absolute disasterous stretch of stories being pandered about by Labour spinners.
Anything to hide the fact that both Broon and Alexander are spending the holidays in self-imposed bunkers.
Best place for both of them.
Poor wee lass, every time she wants to say something, Maggie Broon won't let her. So she has to let Andy Kerr, Jackie Bailie and the rest of the bunch do it for her. That explains the absolute disasterous stretch of stories being pandered about by Labour spinners.
Anything to hide the fact that both Broon and Alexander are spending the holidays in self-imposed bunkers.
Best place for both of them.
Posted by: Eckwatch on 12:25am Wed 2 Jan 08
Back on point though, Wendy really should come out of hiding, I know that despite my best efforts to deflect attention from the story - there's a BIG BROON ELEPHANT in the room....
Breaking Labour's Law is Breaking THE Law
Back on point though, Wendy really should come out of hiding, I know that despite my best efforts to deflect attention from the story - there's a BIG BROON ELEPHANT in the room....
Breaking Labour's Law is Breaking THE Law
Posted by: doonhamer on 12:27am Wed 2 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Eckwatch[/bold] wrote:
Poor old Roseanna. The vindictive Ewing clan ensured she would never be SNP leader. Eck has sidelined her and made sure she never gets her feet under a ministerial desk. Now she's reduced to being the conduit for all the snide stuff the Eckster would like to say himself but mindful of his position daren't. It's not worth it Rosie. You're finished in the SNP and you must know it. No matter how willing you are to be Eck's gopher. Unless you've a few hundred grand to loan them. Then you'll walk into government like Jim Mather. But a lifetime's devotion to the cause means nothing to the New Nats as Big Margo found out before you and you are learning the hard way[/quote] Aye, and she is partial to eating hamsters too.
Lie down laddie and stop hitting your head on the floor.
Eckwatch wrote:
Poor old Roseanna. The vindictive Ewing clan ensured she would never be SNP leader. Eck has sidelined her and made sure she never gets her feet under a ministerial desk. Now she's reduced to being the conduit for all the snide stuff the Eckster would like to say himself but mindful of his position daren't. It's not worth it Rosie. You're finished in the SNP and you must know it. No matter how willing you are to be Eck's gopher. Unless you've a few hundred grand to loan them. Then you'll walk into government like Jim Mather. But a lifetime's devotion to the cause means nothing to the New Nats as Big Margo found out before you and you are learning the hard way
Aye, and she is partial to eating hamsters too.
Lie down laddie and stop hitting your head on the floor.
Posted by: george alexander, north lanarkshire on 12:40am Wed 2 Jan 08
I see the village idiot known as 'eckwatch' is attempting to disrupt the comments with his usual troll like pronouncments ........ duly ignored.
Note how the headline to this article rightly makes it clear that this is an accusation by the SNP. Why are we not seeing a similar approach to headlines when accusations are levelled at the SNP by the Unionist parties?
I see the village idiot known as 'eckwatch' is attempting to disrupt the comments with his usual troll like pronouncments ........ duly ignored.
Note how the headline to this article rightly makes it clear that this is an accusation by the SNP. Why are we not seeing a similar approach to headlines when accusations are levelled at the SNP by the Unionist parties?
Posted by: stuart donaldson on 12:46am Wed 2 Jan 08
Roseanna is doing well here firm but steady pressure
award winning pressure probably plus she is doing us all a favour Wendy has to be removed but roseanna take it easy not to fast :-)
Roseanna is doing well here firm but steady pressure
award winning pressure probably plus she is doing us all a favour Wendy has to be removed but roseanna take it easy not to fast :-)
Posted by: Politically-incorrec
t Man, Glasgow on 12:49am Wed 2 Jan 08
[quote]The Electoral Commission has been unable to give any estimate of how long its investigation will take, or whether it is likely to be followed by a referral to the police. [/quote]
Please Sir, Please Sir, I know the answers.
It will take forever, and there won't be a referral to the Police.
The Electoral Commission has been unable to give any estimate of how long its investigation will take, or whether it is likely to be followed by a referral to the police.
Please Sir, Please Sir, I know the answers.
It will take forever, and there won't be a referral to the Police.
Posted by: Tired of excuses, Galashiels on 12:58am Wed 2 Jan 08
[quote]Now she's reduced to being the conduit for all the snide stuff the Eckster would like to say himself but mindful of his position daren't.[/quote]
Sounds like my dream job actually. Not being one to hold my tongue.
But back on topic, where is Wendy ? What has she been doing all this time ? What have the Labour party been doing ?
Performance? Pathetic in a word.
If only NuLabour had set performance targets for its politicians (instead of setting them for virtually everybody else).
I hope Wendys electorate are taking note here, does anybody think they are getting value for money out of this particular MSP ?
Now she's reduced to being the conduit for all the snide stuff the Eckster would like to say himself but mindful of his position daren't.
Sounds like my dream job actually. Not being one to hold my tongue.
But back on topic, where is Wendy ? What has she been doing all this time ? What have the Labour party been doing ?
Performance? Pathetic in a word.
If only NuLabour had set performance targets for its politicians (instead of setting them for virtually everybody else).
I hope Wendys electorate are taking note here, does anybody think they are getting value for money out of this particular MSP ?
Posted by: Alex Brodie, Edinburgh on 1:20am Wed 2 Jan 08
Bendy was relying on her Labour cronies in the media to "just make it all go away."
They'd hoped it would blow over and we'd all forget about it. We all know the Electoral Commission will do nothing about it and neither will the police.
But these Labour numpties are still going on blatantly working against the best interests of the Scottish people - still belieiving there's nothing the "mugs" can do about it.
They haven't worked it out yet that was only possible when they were "untouchable" in power. Now the ordinary people of Scotland have finally stumbled on a way to remind them who's really in charge - by voting SNP!
IF Wendy doesn't get her come uppance via the police - as she should - then she will get it for sure at the polling booths. People will just not stand for one law for Wendy Alexander and one law for the rest of us.
And especially not when they aren't even running the show any more.
It's a tough world!
Bendy was relying on her Labour cronies in the media to "just make it all go away."
They'd hoped it would blow over and we'd all forget about it. We all know the Electoral Commission will do nothing about it and neither will the police.
But these Labour numpties are still going on blatantly working against the best interests of the Scottish people - still belieiving there's nothing the "mugs" can do about it.
They haven't worked it out yet that was only possible when they were "untouchable" in power. Now the ordinary people of Scotland have finally stumbled on a way to remind them who's really in charge - by voting SNP!
IF Wendy doesn't get her come uppance via the police - as she should - then she will get it for sure at the polling booths. People will just not stand for one law for Wendy Alexander and one law for the rest of us.
And especially not when they aren't even running the show any more.
It's a tough world!
Posted by: baffies away on 1:36am Wed 2 Jan 08
she is just trying to get people used to what it will be like when she is inside doing her time.
she is just trying to get people used to what it will be like when she is inside doing her time.
Posted by: Aquila, Lochaber on 1:41am Wed 2 Jan 08
What still puzzles me is how all this started. Wendy and co must be fuming with rage at the fact that she has been done down by one of her own. She must know by now who it was. Brian Lironi was fingered, but Wendy must know for definite.
What will happen when Wendy takes the fall? It certainly won't end cleanly, nor should it. The Labour Mafia have had this coming for some time. Justice will be served.
What still puzzles me is how all this started. Wendy and co must be fuming with rage at the fact that she has been done down by one of her own. She must know by now who it was. Brian Lironi was fingered, but Wendy must know for definite.
What will happen when Wendy takes the fall? It certainly won't end cleanly, nor should it. The Labour Mafia have had this coming for some time. Justice will be served.
Posted by: shuggie on 1:55am Wed 2 Jan 08
is it true that some of Wendy's donors are on the investigating electoral commission
is it true that some of Wendy's donors are on the investigating electoral commission
Posted by: Joe on 2:02am Wed 2 Jan 08
I wish Roseanna Cunninghame would undertake a self-imposed silence. She hasn't made a useful contribution to Scottish politics since the Perth by-election.
I wish Roseanna Cunninghame would undertake a self-imposed silence. She hasn't made a useful contribution to Scottish politics since the Perth by-election.
Posted by: Bruce, Glasgow on 2:03am Wed 2 Jan 08
Really Joe, I found her comment on this article very useful....
Really Joe, I found her comment on this article very useful....
Posted by: Electoral Commission on 2:41am Wed 2 Jan 08
[bold]deceit[/bold]
[italic]1. the act or practice of deceiving; concealment or distortion of the truth for the purpose of misleading; duplicity; fraud; cheating: Once she exposed their deceit, no one ever trusted them again.
2. an act or device intended to deceive; trick; stratagem.
3. the quality of being deceitful; duplicity; falseness: a man full of deceit.[/italic]
deceit
1. the act or practice of deceiving; concealment or distortion of the truth for the purpose of misleading; duplicity; fraud; cheating: Once she exposed their deceit, no one ever trusted them again.
2. an act or device intended to deceive; trick; stratagem.
3. the quality of being deceitful; duplicity; falseness: a man full of deceit. Posted by: doonhamer on 2:41am Wed 2 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Joe[/bold] wrote:
I wish Roseanna Cunninghame would undertake a self-imposed silence. She hasn't made a useful contribution to Scottish politics since the Perth by-election. [/quote] People in glass houses.....
Joe wrote:
I wish Roseanna Cunninghame would undertake a self-imposed silence. She hasn't made a useful contribution to Scottish politics since the Perth by-election.
People in glass houses.....
Posted by: Scunnert, Travelling in Nihlon on 4:49am Wed 2 Jan 08
I have no faith in this electoral commission - they're nothing but place men. Justice delayed is justice denied.
I have no faith in this electoral commission - they're nothing but place men. Justice delayed is justice denied.
Posted by: pencildick on 6:26am Wed 2 Jan 08
[quote][bold]shuggie[/bold] wrote:
is it true that some of Wendy's donors are on the investigating electoral commission[/quote] Lord Elder is the advisor to the electoral commision, which means the commision will follow his guidelines (or in other words do what he tells them).
He was also a donor to Wendy Alexanders election campaign(or if not to her campaign to the labour party in Scotland).
The cronyism of the Unionist parties in Scotland are a joke.
Anyone voting for this corrupt shower of self interested politians need their heads examined, if not their conscience.
shuggie wrote:
is it true that some of Wendy's donors are on the investigating electoral commission
Lord Elder is the advisor to the electoral commision, which means the commision will follow his guidelines (or in other words do what he tells them).
He was also a donor to Wendy Alexanders election campaign(or if not to her campaign to the labour party in Scotland).
The cronyism of the Unionist parties in Scotland are a joke.
Anyone voting for this corrupt shower of self interested politians need their heads examined, if not their conscience.
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 7:08am Wed 2 Jan 08
Eckwitch Tries First Names[quote]It's not worth it Rosie.[/quote]But as ever there's nothing of any substance in his remarks.
SaulTyre suggests[quote]As the song goes: she says it best when she says nothing at all .[/quote] Excellent. I suspect she's been told to stay silent by her lawyers.
Scunnert gets Impatient[quote]Justice delayed is justice denied.[/quote]No comment needed.
Eckwitch Tries First Names
It's not worth it Rosie.
But as ever there's nothing of any substance in his remarks.
SaulTyre suggests
As the song goes: she says it best when she says nothing at all .
Excellent. I suspect she's been told to stay silent by her lawyers.
Scunnert gets Impatient
Justice delayed is justice denied.
No comment needed.
Posted by: James, Dundee on 8:40am Wed 2 Jan 08
No matter the bluff'n'stuff of the Electoral Commission fudge and Labour Party spin, the one thing that won't go away is the
ELECTORATE.
They will be the judge and the jury.
Keep Alexander in place and you'll be able to weigh the SNP votes at the next election.
What the SNP can do is ensure proper monitoring of the process such as Postal voting.
No matter the bluff'n'stuff of the Electoral Commission fudge and Labour Party spin, the one thing that won't go away is the
ELECTORATE.
They will be the judge and the jury.
Keep Alexander in place and you'll be able to weigh the SNP votes at the next election.
What the SNP can do is ensure proper monitoring of the process such as Postal voting.
Posted by: Disgusted Dorothy, Glasgow on 9:09am Wed 2 Jan 08
And when this investigation is finished,will they then investigate Crossrail,the computer firm and that friend of Mr Sarwar??
And when this investigation is finished,will they then investigate Crossrail,the computer firm and that friend of Mr Sarwar??
Posted by: Jock in the Box, embra on 9:41am Wed 2 Jan 08
[bold]Politically-incorrec t Man, Glasgow on 12:49am[/bold]
Absolutely!
You can put money on it!
What I dont get is
Does Big Muppet Broon really think we will swallow this guff?
Labours activists are avoiding being seen also because they are so embarrassed.
Maybe if we say nothing people will believe us?
You are on a sure fire winner there Gordon!
Maybe East Fife will win the European Cup next season !
Even the megadense numpties often refferred to as the Labour faithfull must be having doubts now!
Politically-incorrec t Man, Glasgow on 12:49am
Absolutely!
You can put money on it!
What I dont get is
Does Big Muppet Broon really think we will swallow this guff?
Labours activists are avoiding being seen also because they are so embarrassed.
Maybe if we say nothing people will believe us?
You are on a sure fire winner there Gordon!
Maybe East Fife will win the European Cup next season !
Even the megadense numpties often refferred to as the Labour faithfull must be having doubts now!
Posted by: Phil C on 10:14am Wed 2 Jan 08
Headline should read "Scottish Newspaper mentions Bendy Wendy"
Headline should read "Scottish Newspaper mentions Bendy Wendy"
Posted by: Peter Thomson, Looking over the heads of unionist dwarfs on 10:24am Wed 2 Jan 08
Wendy broke the law, a law put in place in by Labour to reduce the effectiveness of Tory and SNP fund raising, there is a sweet irony in that.
If the Electoral Commission white wash this; the Unionists will have handed the SNP around 40+ seats at the next Westminster Election and majority control at the next Holyrood election.
If Brown is serious about keeping the Union then Wendy has to be thrown to the wolves as, coupled with all the rest of Labour in Scotland's Tammany Hall practices, this is the one that will break the the Unionist back.
Then again the old saw; There's none so blind as those who will not see, applies in this case.
Wendy broke the law, a law put in place in by Labour to reduce the effectiveness of Tory and SNP fund raising, there is a sweet irony in that.
If the Electoral Commission white wash this; the Unionists will have handed the SNP around 40+ seats at the next Westminster Election and majority control at the next Holyrood election.
If Brown is serious about keeping the Union then Wendy has to be thrown to the wolves as, coupled with all the rest of Labour in Scotland's Tammany Hall practices, this is the one that will break the the Unionist back.
Then again the old saw; There's none so blind as those who will not see, applies in this case.
Posted by: Retired, ....but still Switched Onr, Fed Up To The Teeth on 10:29am Wed 2 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Eckwatch[/bold] wrote:
Poor old Roseanna. The vindictive Ewing clan ensured she would never be SNP leader. Eck has sidelined her and made sure she never gets her feet under a ministerial desk. Now she's reduced to being the conduit for all the snide stuff the Eckster would like to say himself but mindful of his position daren't. It's not worth it Rosie. You're finished in the SNP and you must know it. No matter how willing you are to be Eck's gopher. Unless you've a few hundred grand to loan them. Then you'll walk into government like Jim Mather. But a lifetime's devotion to the cause means nothing to the New Nats as Big Margo found out before you and you are learning the hard way[/quote] ECKWATCH............
....(a brain -free Zone)
..........and not a single WORD of proferred opinion re your view as to what the labour party should have done on learning of this admitted lawbreaking. Just a rather sad effort at deflection of attention. Are you really JASON4QUEEN????.....
....or do you just attend the same late night public toilets?
Eckwatch wrote:
Poor old Roseanna. The vindictive Ewing clan ensured she would never be SNP leader. Eck has sidelined her and made sure she never gets her feet under a ministerial desk. Now she's reduced to being the conduit for all the snide stuff the Eckster would like to say himself but mindful of his position daren't. It's not worth it Rosie. You're finished in the SNP and you must know it. No matter how willing you are to be Eck's gopher. Unless you've a few hundred grand to loan them. Then you'll walk into government like Jim Mather. But a lifetime's devotion to the cause means nothing to the New Nats as Big Margo found out before you and you are learning the hard way
ECKWATCH............
....(a brain -free Zone)
..........and not a single WORD of proferred opinion re your view as to what the labour party should have done on learning of this admitted lawbreaking. Just a rather sad effort at deflection of attention. Are you really JASON4QUEEN????.....
....or do you just attend the same late night public toilets?
Posted by: Aurora, Edinburgh on 10:34am Wed 2 Jan 08
Wouldnt it be great to have just a WEEK of silence from Wee Eck ???
Wouldnt it be great to have just a WEEK of silence from Wee Eck ???
Posted by: Aurora, Edinburgh on 10:34am Wed 2 Jan 08
Wouldnt it be great to have just a WEEK of silence from Wee Eck ???
Wouldnt it be great to have just a WEEK of silence from Wee Eck ???
Posted by: Exiled Aussie, Banff on 10:41am Wed 2 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Eckwatch[/bold] wrote:
Poor old Roseanna. The vindictive Ewing clan ensured she would never be SNP leader. Eck has sidelined her and made sure she never gets her feet under a ministerial desk. Now she's reduced to being the conduit for all the snide stuff the Eckster would like to say himself but mindful of his position daren't. It's not worth it Rosie. You're finished in the SNP and you must know it. No matter how willing you are to be Eck's gopher. Unless you've a few hundred grand to loan them. Then you'll walk into government like Jim Mather. But a lifetime's devotion to the cause means nothing to the New Nats as Big Margo found out before you and you are learning the hard way[/quote] A very sensible posting.
I had the privilege of meeting Ms Cunningham some years back and found her a very interesting person - despite her politics.
It has been clear for some time that the "keep out the left at all costs" brigade that dominates the Nats have wanted Roseanna sidelined and the observations by Eckwatch are bang to rights.
Eckwatch wrote:
Poor old Roseanna. The vindictive Ewing clan ensured she would never be SNP leader. Eck has sidelined her and made sure she never gets her feet under a ministerial desk. Now she's reduced to being the conduit for all the snide stuff the Eckster would like to say himself but mindful of his position daren't. It's not worth it Rosie. You're finished in the SNP and you must know it. No matter how willing you are to be Eck's gopher. Unless you've a few hundred grand to loan them. Then you'll walk into government like Jim Mather. But a lifetime's devotion to the cause means nothing to the New Nats as Big Margo found out before you and you are learning the hard way
A very sensible posting.
I had the privilege of meeting Ms Cunningham some years back and found her a very interesting person - despite her politics.
It has been clear for some time that the "keep out the left at all costs" brigade that dominates the Nats have wanted Roseanna sidelined and the observations by Eckwatch are bang to rights.
Posted by: Melanthios on 10:44am Wed 2 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Aurora[/bold] wrote:
Wouldnt it be great to have just a WEEK of silence from Wee Eck ???[/quote] ..or even better..a MONTH without you?
A belated happy new year anyway.
Aurora wrote:
Wouldnt it be great to have just a WEEK of silence from Wee Eck ???
..or even better..a MONTH without you?
A belated happy new year anyway.
Posted by: Jock in the Box, embra on 10:52am Wed 2 Jan 08
[bold]Aurora, Edinburgh on 10:34am[/bold]
No because unlike Wendy he is the elected First Minister and its his job to speak.
Of course as leader of the opposition Wendy also should speak,It says volumes for her tremendous intellect when she is under instruction to shut her gob in case she blows it!
It reminds me of a question thrown at the late Donald Dewar,which was name one single job you have saved Donald. Someone from the crowd shouted PASS DONALD!
Donald immediately responded with "No,not pass at all" then passed !
He should have said his own because that was the only job he ever saved!
You really do have a capacity for inane comment which is quite exceptional .
Do you have to have special training for this or does it just come naturally ?
Aurora, Edinburgh on 10:34am
No because unlike Wendy he is the elected First Minister and its his job to speak.
Of course as leader of the opposition Wendy also should speak,It says volumes for her tremendous intellect when she is under instruction to shut her gob in case she blows it!
It reminds me of a question thrown at the late Donald Dewar,which was name one single job you have saved Donald. Someone from the crowd shouted PASS DONALD!
Donald immediately responded with "No,not pass at all" then passed !
He should have said his own because that was the only job he ever saved!
You really do have a capacity for inane comment which is quite exceptional .
Do you have to have special training for this or does it just come naturally ?
Posted by: John Saultire, Scotland on 11:12am Wed 2 Jan 08
Eckwatch reminds me of a film star. You know the one in Father of the Bride. Walter Mitty CIA Circle of trust etc. I have this vision of Eckwatch giving the the two finger sign to his eyes with unspoken " I am watching you!" [bold]Delusions of everything or what?[/bold]
Eckwatch reminds me of a film star. You know the one in Father of the Bride. Walter Mitty CIA Circle of trust etc. I have this vision of Eckwatch giving the the two finger sign to his eyes with unspoken " I am watching you!"
Delusions of everything or what? Posted by: Mac, Dundee on 11:34am Wed 2 Jan 08
Long may Wendy Alexander's 'vow of silence' continue, preferably behind bars in prison.
Long may Wendy Alexander's 'vow of silence' continue, preferably behind bars in prison.
Posted by: harris tweed & levis, Edinburgh on 11:43am Wed 2 Jan 08
Eckwatch
Also known as WC Kaecht, very apt.
Eckwatch
Also known as WC Kaecht, very apt.
Posted by: Proud to be Scottish, Glasgow on 11:44am Wed 2 Jan 08
Bleat, bleat, bleat - the inane postings of the cyber nats follow a rather predictable pattern - blame the English, bleat, throw mud around, winge, bleat - what a small minded self loathing bunch of sheep, bleat.
Do you not have any opinions of your own?
Bleat, bleat, bleat - the inane postings of the cyber nats follow a rather predictable pattern - blame the English, bleat, throw mud around, winge, bleat - what a small minded self loathing bunch of sheep, bleat.
Do you not have any opinions of your own?
Posted by: Proud to be Scottish, Glasgow on 11:46am Wed 2 Jan 08
[quote][bold]harris tweed & levis[/bold] wrote:
Eckwatch Also known as WC Kaecht, very apt. [/quote] Purile, but utterly predictable form a gnat
harris tweed & levis wrote:
Eckwatch Also known as WC Kaecht, very apt.
Purile, but utterly predictable form a gnat
Posted by: Mac, Dundee on 11:49am Wed 2 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Proud to be Scottish[/bold] wrote:
Bleat, bleat, bleat - the inane postings of the cyber nats follow a rather predictable pattern - blame the English, bleat, throw mud around, winge, bleat - what a small minded self loathing bunch of sheep, bleat. Do you not have any opinions of your own?[/quote] Congratulations you are the first to mention the "English".
Proud to be Scottish wrote:
Bleat, bleat, bleat - the inane postings of the cyber nats follow a rather predictable pattern - blame the English, bleat, throw mud around, winge, bleat - what a small minded self loathing bunch of sheep, bleat. Do you not have any opinions of your own?
Congratulations you are the first to mention the "English".
Posted by: Proud to be Scottish, Glasgow on 11:54am Wed 2 Jan 08
Mac
If this the first blog that dosen't have half of you lot blaming the English for it it will be a first.
Mac
If this the first blog that dosen't have half of you lot blaming the English for it it will be a first.
Posted by: Melanthios on 12:00pm Wed 2 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Proud to be Scottish[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]harris tweed & levis[/bold] wrote:
Eckwatch Also known as WC Kaecht, very apt. [/quote] Purile, but utterly predictable form a gnat[/quote] Purile? Pure?. Perhaps you mean puerile. Either way you're a balloon.
Proud to be Scottish wrote:
harris tweed & levis wrote:
Eckwatch Also known as WC Kaecht, very apt.
Purile, but utterly predictable form a gnat
Purile? Pure?. Perhaps you mean puerile. Either way you're a balloon.
Posted by: Melanthios on 12:02pm Wed 2 Jan 08
The quote button appears to have a mind of its own. What the **** does [bold]&[/bold] mean?
The quote button appears to have a mind of its own. What the **** does
& mean?
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 12:10pm Wed 2 Jan 08
Proud He's Quackers[quote]If this the first blog that dosen't have half of you lot blaming the English for it it will be a first.[/quote] If you mean your birth tell us your dad was English and who else can we blame?
Proud He's Quackers
If this the first blog that dosen't have half of you lot blaming the English for it it will be a first.
If you mean your birth tell us your dad was English and who else can we blame?
Posted by: harris tweed & levis, Edinburgh on 12:11pm Wed 2 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Proud to be Scottish[/bold] wrote:
Mac If this the first blog that dosen\'t have half of you lot blaming the English for it it will be a first. [/quote] A stunning insight there.
Do you have any other pearls of wisdom to amuse us poor deluded “gnats”.
Go on, tell us what is that makes you so “proud to be Scottish”, that should be worth a laugh.
Proud to be Scottish wrote:
Mac If this the first blog that dosen\'t have half of you lot blaming the English for it it will be a first.
A stunning insight there.
Do you have any other pearls of wisdom to amuse us poor deluded “gnats”.
Go on, tell us what is that makes you so “proud to be Scottish”, that should be worth a laugh.
Posted by: Proud to be Scottish, Glasgow on 12:22pm Wed 2 Jan 08
[quote][bold]harris tweed & levis[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Proud to be Scottish[/bold] wrote: Mac If this the first blog that dosen\\\\\\\'t have half of you lot blaming the English for it it will be a first. [/quote] A stunning insight there. Do you have any other pearls of wisdom to amuse us poor deluded “gnats”. Go on, tell us what is that makes you so “proud to be Scottish”, that should be worth a laugh. [/quote] I'm proud that I live in the best wee country in the world, I'm proud that I'm British.
Your proud to hate the English and blame them for everything.
United we are strong, divided we are weak.
You nats will have us begging at the EU, you have no idea what you are trying to get us into.
Do you honestly think we can compete with England, Germany or France economically?
Do you think Alex Salmond is honest enough to have ANY respect from other leaders.
Take of your tartan tinted sunglasses.
harris tweed & levis wrote:
Proud to be Scottish wrote: Mac If this the first blog that dosen\\\\'t have half of you lot blaming the English for it it will be a first.
A stunning insight there. Do you have any other pearls of wisdom to amuse us poor deluded “gnats”. Go on, tell us what is that makes you so “proud to be Scottish”, that should be worth a laugh.
I'm proud that I live in the best wee country in the world, I'm proud that I'm British.
Your proud to hate the English and blame them for everything.
United we are strong, divided we are weak.
You nats will have us begging at the EU, you have no idea what you are trying to get us into.
Do you honestly think we can compete with England, Germany or France economically?
Do you think Alex Salmond is honest enough to have ANY respect from other leaders.
Take of your tartan tinted sunglasses.
Posted by: Gregor Addison, Münster, Germany on 12:24pm Wed 2 Jan 08
Since when did due process mean going into hiding?
Since when did due process mean going into hiding?
Posted by: Peter Thomson, Looking over the heads of unionist dwarfs on 12:27pm Wed 2 Jan 08
Unionists are going down the pan big time unless Broon gives up Wendy to the beaks, a fine and a 'community service' order will do much to stop the wasting away of Unionist support.
I can just see Wendy in her overalls, goggles and hard hat picking up dog crap, cleaning off graffiti and chewing gum around Paisley's streets and buildings. Probably be the first positive thing she will ever do for Paisley!
Proud to be Scottish - note I am blaming the Labour Party per se for the mess you lot find yourself in - not those natives south of the border. Do you understand Westminster does not equal the English?
Unionists are going down the pan big time unless Broon gives up Wendy to the beaks, a fine and a 'community service' order will do much to stop the wasting away of Unionist support.
I can just see Wendy in her overalls, goggles and hard hat picking up dog crap, cleaning off graffiti and chewing gum around Paisley's streets and buildings. Probably be the first positive thing she will ever do for Paisley!
Proud to be Scottish - note I am blaming the Labour Party per se for the mess you lot find yourself in - not those natives south of the border. Do you understand Westminster does not equal the English?
Posted by: Melanthios on 12:28pm Wed 2 Jan 08
Proud to be etc...
[quote]
I'm proud that I live in the best wee country in the world, I'm proud that I'm British.[/quote]
That slogan showed all that was wrong with Scotland. Thank God it's been ditched.
Proud to be etc...
I'm proud that I live in the best wee country in the world, I'm proud that I'm British.
That slogan showed all that was wrong with Scotland. Thank God it's been ditched.
Posted by: Ronald, Glasgow on 12:30pm Wed 2 Jan 08
It's almost touching, isn't it? Seeing the return of the village idiots
"Eckwatch", "Aurora", and "Ashamed to be Scottish"!
I thought you guys had done a runner in the wake of "Wendygate".
It must be tough being a NEW LABOUR flunky nowadays - all you got from your glorious leader over the holiday period was doom and gloom. And we know how Her Braun's message is going to work in practice; Hammer the poor, the sick and unemployed. Child poverty rates - already at record levels, will reach new heights. Give asylum seekers a good kicking - continue to incarcerate parents and their kids in NEW LABOUR hellholes.
But wait ! - when dumb'n dumber - WEE WENDY finally gets the boot
you can look forward to THE BARON GEORDIE VON DEM FOULKES taking over the tiller of the sinking NEW LABOUR ship. Dear, oh dear, oh dear! And when Gordon throws in the towel as a result of his mental health issues perhaps Peter "Mandy" Mandelson, David Blunket, or Jack Straw will take over. What a prospect !hahahhahahahhahahah
haha
And it really couldn't happen to a more deserving and verminous rable than the "Scottish" NEW LABOUR PARTY.
Happy New Year!! hahhahahhahahaha Its all gone Tonto for the
"socialists" - not that there are any left in the Party!
It's almost touching, isn't it? Seeing the return of the village idiots
"Eckwatch", "Aurora", and "Ashamed to be Scottish"!
I thought you guys had done a runner in the wake of "Wendygate".
It must be tough being a NEW LABOUR flunky nowadays - all you got from your glorious leader over the holiday period was doom and gloom. And we know how Her Braun's message is going to work in practice; Hammer the poor, the sick and unemployed. Child poverty rates - already at record levels, will reach new heights. Give asylum seekers a good kicking - continue to incarcerate parents and their kids in NEW LABOUR hellholes.
But wait ! - when dumb'n dumber - WEE WENDY finally gets the boot
you can look forward to THE BARON GEORDIE VON DEM FOULKES taking over the tiller of the sinking NEW LABOUR ship. Dear, oh dear, oh dear! And when Gordon throws in the towel as a result of his mental health issues perhaps Peter "Mandy" Mandelson, David Blunket, or Jack Straw will take over. What a prospect !hahahhahahahhahahah
haha
And it really couldn't happen to a more deserving and verminous rable than the "Scottish" NEW LABOUR PARTY.
Happy New Year!! hahhahahhahahaha Its all gone Tonto for the
"socialists" - not that there are any left in the Party!
Posted by: John Edgar, Cupar Fife on 12:42pm Wed 2 Jan 08
The real root cause of Labour's travails is that their cosy wee world has changed. No longer will Scots vote unthinkingly. The subservient cottar-mentality that has afflicted Scots is being overcome. The Tory bogy man has been laid to rest and Labour are in a tail spin. The world is not as it is and Labour have gone into bunker -mode. Hence they cannot communicate with he people. Gordon Brown has been urging the Kenyans to talk to end the violence. The "big man" plays at being a statesman, but he cannot talk to the devolved gov ernments of the UK because the people are no longer playing the game of passively voting Labour. The seismic shift in Scottish politics has begun!
The real root cause of Labour's travails is that their cosy wee world has changed. No longer will Scots vote unthinkingly. The subservient cottar-mentality that has afflicted Scots is being overcome. The Tory bogy man has been laid to rest and Labour are in a tail spin. The world is not as it is and Labour have gone into bunker -mode. Hence they cannot communicate with he people. Gordon Brown has been urging the Kenyans to talk to end the violence. The "big man" plays at being a statesman, but he cannot talk to the devolved gov ernments of the UK because the people are no longer playing the game of passively voting Labour. The seismic shift in Scottish politics has begun!
Posted by: Callum Roxburgh, Jakarta on 12:45pm Wed 2 Jan 08
Proud to be Scottish:
It make come as a great shock, but you being an obvious labour supporter I will excuse your ignorance of Business and Commerce, countries economys are not football teams where one wins and the other loses. Economies are made up of business's all competing with each other. No Scotlands economy will never be as big as Germany or France. But we could be more like Luxembourg or Denmark which have the Highest GDP per capita in Europe. We will however find that awfully difficult to acheive while the millstone of England and NuLabour hanging around our necks.
Proud to be Scottish:
It make come as a great shock, but you being an obvious labour supporter I will excuse your ignorance of Business and Commerce, countries economys are not football teams where one wins and the other loses. Economies are made up of business's all competing with each other. No Scotlands economy will never be as big as Germany or France. But we could be more like Luxembourg or Denmark which have the Highest GDP per capita in Europe. We will however find that awfully difficult to acheive while the millstone of England and NuLabour hanging around our necks.
Posted by: Kinghob on 12:45pm Wed 2 Jan 08
The truth is that Labour are in a big state, in Scotland and in the British Isles.
No credibility.
No leadership.
No policies.
Amateurish antics with less help or spin from the Scottish press than they are used to except for the usual culprits like the 'record' or the 'northbritishperson' newspapers.
It really is a dire dire political period for Labour, and a terrible time to be into the so called 'union'.
Don't let the trolls tell it like it isn't-there is no reason to respond to somebody who pretends that the Labour party are doing great, or call Scottish voters 'gnats' etc.
They are yesterday's desperate people-lost and confused.
The truth is that Labour are in a big state, in Scotland and in the British Isles.
No credibility.
No leadership.
No policies.
Amateurish antics with less help or spin from the Scottish press than they are used to except for the usual culprits like the 'record' or the 'northbritishperson' newspapers.
It really is a dire dire political period for Labour, and a terrible time to be into the so called 'union'.
Don't let the trolls tell it like it isn't-there is no reason to respond to somebody who pretends that the Labour party are doing great, or call Scottish voters 'gnats' etc.
They are yesterday's desperate people-lost and confused.
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 12:57pm Wed 2 Jan 08
Proud To Be Quackers[quote]Take of your tartan tinted sunglasses.[/quote] And have to look at prats like you? No thanks.
Proud To Be Quackers
Take of your tartan tinted sunglasses.
And have to look at prats like you? No thanks.
Posted by: Proud to be Scottish, Glasgow on 1:17pm Wed 2 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Callum Roxburgh[/bold] wrote:
Proud to be Scottish: It make come as a great shock, but you being an obvious labour supporter I will excuse your ignorance of Business and Commerce, countries economys are not football teams where one wins and the other loses. Economies are made up of business's all competing with each other. No Scotlands economy will never be as big as Germany or France. But we could be more like Luxembourg or Denmark which have the Highest GDP per capita in Europe. We will however find that awfully difficult to acheive while the millstone of England and NuLabour hanging around our necks.[/quote] The SNP struggle to run local councils, and have a dismall record of doing so, so I'll not be taking any lessons from gnats about economics.
You must live in cloud cookoo land if you think that Scotland could compete with major countries. Denmark and Luxembourg are only rich because the EU props them up.
The labour party have managed the longest period of economic growth in Scotlands history in the last 10 years.
If you were properly Scottish you'd spell your name correctly
Callum Roxburgh wrote:
Proud to be Scottish: It make come as a great shock, but you being an obvious labour supporter I will excuse your ignorance of Business and Commerce, countries economys are not football teams where one wins and the other loses. Economies are made up of business's all competing with each other. No Scotlands economy will never be as big as Germany or France. But we could be more like Luxembourg or Denmark which have the Highest GDP per capita in Europe. We will however find that awfully difficult to acheive while the millstone of England and NuLabour hanging around our necks.
The SNP struggle to run local councils, and have a dismall record of doing so, so I'll not be taking any lessons from gnats about economics.
You must live in cloud cookoo land if you think that Scotland could compete with major countries. Denmark and Luxembourg are only rich because the EU props them up.
The labour party have managed the longest period of economic growth in Scotlands history in the last 10 years.
If you were properly Scottish you'd spell your name correctly
Posted by: Proud to be Scottish, Glasgow on 1:21pm Wed 2 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Los Angeles[/bold] wrote:
Proud To Be Quackers[quote]Take of your tartan tinted sunglasses.[/quote] And have to look at prats like you? No thanks. [/quote] Thats all you gnats have to offer isn't it?
When youv'e lost the argument you resort to name calling.
Why don't you come back when you have something to contrubute? - oh, sorry, I forgot you live on this board don't you L.A., or rather live in the dingy basement of the nest that is SNP HQ typing purile nonsense.
Los Angeles wrote:
Proud To Be QuackersTake of your tartan tinted sunglasses.
And have to look at prats like you? No thanks.
Thats all you gnats have to offer isn't it?
When youv'e lost the argument you resort to name calling.
Why don't you come back when you have something to contrubute? - oh, sorry, I forgot you live on this board don't you L.A., or rather live in the dingy basement of the nest that is SNP HQ typing purile nonsense.
Posted by: Proud to be Scottish, Glasgow on 1:29pm Wed 2 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Kinghob[/bold] wrote:
The truth is that Labour are in a big state, in Scotland and in the British Isles. No credibility. No leadership. No policies. Amateurish antics with less help or spin from the Scottish press than they are used to except for the usual culprits like the 'record' or the 'northbritishperson' newspapers. It really is a dire dire political period for Labour, and a terrible time to be into the so called 'union'. Don't let the trolls tell it like it isn't-there is no reason to respond to somebody who pretends that the Labour party are doing great, or call Scottish voters 'gnats' etc. They are yesterday's desperate people-lost and confused.[/quote] Oh, yes - it's all a big media conspiracy isn't it?
You are lucky to live i the country with the free-ist press in the world, has it ever struck your pea-brain that the media critises everybody?, but mostly the SNP as you are a mickey mouse party running a mickey mouse government.
The media has a duty to report issues like:
1000 new police - broken promise
cash for favours (at SNP conference)
scrapping student loans - broken promise
in bed with Trump and lying about it.
Thank god for our press.
We will be back, you will be left sniping away for another 50 years
Kinghob wrote:
The truth is that Labour are in a big state, in Scotland and in the British Isles. No credibility. No leadership. No policies. Amateurish antics with less help or spin from the Scottish press than they are used to except for the usual culprits like the 'record' or the 'northbritishperson' newspapers. It really is a dire dire political period for Labour, and a terrible time to be into the so called 'union'. Don't let the trolls tell it like it isn't-there is no reason to respond to somebody who pretends that the Labour party are doing great, or call Scottish voters 'gnats' etc. They are yesterday's desperate people-lost and confused.
Oh, yes - it's all a big media conspiracy isn't it?
You are lucky to live i the country with the free-ist press in the world, has it ever struck your pea-brain that the media critises everybody?, but mostly the SNP as you are a mickey mouse party running a mickey mouse government.
The media has a duty to report issues like:
1000 new police - broken promise
cash for favours (at SNP conference)
scrapping student loans - broken promise
in bed with Trump and lying about it.
Thank god for our press.
We will be back, you will be left sniping away for another 50 years
Posted by: DJ, Glasgow on 1:30pm Wed 2 Jan 08
New year new nat grump. You may be proud to be Scottish, but they are proud to be grumpy. Happy new grumps to you all.
New year new nat grump. You may be proud to be Scottish, but they are proud to be grumpy. Happy new grumps to you all.
Posted by: Scunnered, Galloway the Daft on 1:31pm Wed 2 Jan 08
Could Wendy no' be given Cornton Vale as list MSP?
Be fair she hasnae got theadvice of her brother as he has obviously been in charge of a successful Scottish General Election, now the Kenyan General Elections and he will have to get to Islamabad quick to bring success to the Paklistani General election as only he knows how. After the 08 January Wendy will be able to get some advice form her brother.
And after all it is all the SNP's fault that they don't take the big bribes like the big parties in anotyher place. Not joining seems to be the biggest sin in the third way.
Could Wendy no' be given Cornton Vale as list MSP?
Be fair she hasnae got theadvice of her brother as he has obviously been in charge of a successful Scottish General Election, now the Kenyan General Elections and he will have to get to Islamabad quick to bring success to the Paklistani General election as only he knows how. After the 08 January Wendy will be able to get some advice form her brother.
And after all it is all the SNP's fault that they don't take the big bribes like the big parties in anotyher place. Not joining seems to be the biggest sin in the third way.
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 1:33pm Wed 2 Jan 08
[bold]Proud to be Scottish wrote...I'm proud that I live in the best wee country in the world......[/bold]
How did you measure this?
[italic]That's quite a boast![/italic]
Proud to be Scottish wrote...I'm proud that I live in the best wee country in the world......
How did you measure this?
That's quite a boast! Posted by: Oscar, Dumfropolis on 1:47pm Wed 2 Jan 08
Is it not the case that anything she says can be used in court as evidence against her?
Is it not the case that anything she says can be used in court as evidence against her?
Posted by: Brian Hill, Edinburgh on 1:55pm Wed 2 Jan 08
Roseanna Cunningham does a very good job for the Government and her constituents and she has great support throughout the SNP. All parties have internal squabbles and it's to her credit that she is still in their fighting Scotland's corner if she has had personal setbacks to her political career.
As for Wendy. I've never been keen on technical knockouts in politics and this would be one of the biggest in Scottish political history were Wendy to fall as leader of the opposition. I don't think her demise in this way would be good for anybody.
The irony and the only element in this unfortunate episode which even remotely justifies Wendy's pain is that the electoral laws which have snared her were put in place by Labour to deprive the SNP of funding from overseas supporters.
Electoral laws, like all laws need to be simplified and for sake of Scottish politics this particular axe must either fall on Wendy or be removed as soon as possible.
Roseanna Cunningham does a very good job for the Government and her constituents and she has great support throughout the SNP. All parties have internal squabbles and it's to her credit that she is still in their fighting Scotland's corner if she has had personal setbacks to her political career.
As for Wendy. I've never been keen on technical knockouts in politics and this would be one of the biggest in Scottish political history were Wendy to fall as leader of the opposition. I don't think her demise in this way would be good for anybody.
The irony and the only element in this unfortunate episode which even remotely justifies Wendy's pain is that the electoral laws which have snared her were put in place by Labour to deprive the SNP of funding from overseas supporters.
Electoral laws, like all laws need to be simplified and for sake of Scottish politics this particular axe must either fall on Wendy or be removed as soon as possible.
Posted by: harris tweed & levis, Edinburgh on 1:57pm Wed 2 Jan 08
“Your proud to hate the English and blame them for everything.”
Do you have any evidence that I “hate the English”?
I have even been known to communicate in the English language, using communally accepted forms of grammar and syntax.
You may like to try it sometime.
“United we are strong, divided we are weak”.
Who exactly are the “we” of your premise?
Does this group include the downtrodden under classes of not only England, but also those of France, Germany , Italy, Africa and Asia?
My political philosophy of civic nationalism, allows me to embrace the concept of Scotland contributing towards the greater well being of not only Europe, but the plant as a whole.
I despair of the insular, narrow, bigoted and introverted viewpoint, espoused by those who would limit their intellectual horizons to their own back gardens.
“You nats will have us begging at the EU, you have no idea what you are trying to get us into”
It may have escaped your notice, but we are already a member of the EU, and the SNP do have representatives there in the form of MEP’s.
An independent Scotland would take it’s turn at hosting the presidency of this organisation, should we decide that continued membership is appropriate.
The current presidency is held by Slovenia, with a population of less than half of ours, and a GDP (excluding our oil & gas revenues) , of around 1/6th of ours.
“Do you honestly think we can compete with England, Germany or France economically?”
Yes, in the same manner that Norway, Denmark, Ireland , Sweden, Netherlands and Belgium do.
“Do you think Alex Salmond is honest enough to have ANY respect from other leaders.”
Who did you have in mind by “other leaders”?
The leaders of Eire, Northern Ireland , Wales, and various Scandinavian countries have had enough respect for Mr Salmond to join him for talks.
The leader of which country has attempted to blank Scotland’s First Minister, and why has this been the case?
“Take of your tartan tinted sunglasses“
As the sky has yet to fall in following the election of a SNP .government, perhaps I should retain my sunglasses for the time being.
Perhaps they will shield me from the bright shining light emanating from the great intellectual giant, possessed of a wonderful moral compass, otherwise knows as Wendy the Great?
“Your proud to hate the English and blame them for everything.”
Do you have any evidence that I “hate the English”?
I have even been known to communicate in the English language, using communally accepted forms of grammar and syntax.
You may like to try it sometime.
“United we are strong, divided we are weak”.
Who exactly are the “we” of your premise?
Does this group include the downtrodden under classes of not only England, but also those of France, Germany , Italy, Africa and Asia?
My political philosophy of civic nationalism, allows me to embrace the concept of Scotland contributing towards the greater well being of not only Europe, but the plant as a whole.
I despair of the insular, narrow, bigoted and introverted viewpoint, espoused by those who would limit their intellectual horizons to their own back gardens.
“You nats will have us begging at the EU, you have no idea what you are trying to get us into”
It may have escaped your notice, but we are already a member of the EU, and the SNP do have representatives there in the form of MEP’s.
An independent Scotland would take it’s turn at hosting the presidency of this organisation, should we decide that continued membership is appropriate.
The current presidency is held by Slovenia, with a population of less than half of ours, and a GDP (excluding our oil & gas revenues) , of around 1/6th of ours.
“Do you honestly think we can compete with England, Germany or France economically?”
Yes, in the same manner that Norway, Denmark, Ireland , Sweden, Netherlands and Belgium do.
“Do you think Alex Salmond is honest enough to have ANY respect from other leaders.”
Who did you have in mind by “other leaders”?
The leaders of Eire, Northern Ireland , Wales, and various Scandinavian countries have had enough respect for Mr Salmond to join him for talks.
The leader of which country has attempted to blank Scotland’s First Minister, and why has this been the case?
“Take of your tartan tinted sunglasses“
As the sky has yet to fall in following the election of a SNP .government, perhaps I should retain my sunglasses for the time being.
Perhaps they will shield me from the bright shining light emanating from the great intellectual giant, possessed of a wonderful moral compass, otherwise knows as Wendy the Great?
Posted by: Clare, Lanarkshire on 2:09pm Wed 2 Jan 08
"THE BODY investigating an illegal donation to Wendy Alexander's Labour leadership campaign has admitted its inquiry may lead to criminal proceedings against her and her allies.
The Electoral Commission is declining to publish its correspondence with Team Alexander as it may breach their right to a fair trial. Officials for the watchdog have also stated they have been in touch with the prosecuting authorities over the matter."
The above was in an article by Paul Hutcheon in the Sunday Herald 23 rd December.
"THE BODY investigating an illegal donation to Wendy Alexander's Labour leadership campaign has admitted its inquiry may lead to criminal proceedings against her and her allies.
The Electoral Commission is declining to publish its correspondence with Team Alexander as it may breach their right to a fair trial. Officials for the watchdog have also stated they have been in touch with the prosecuting authorities over the matter."
The above was in an article by Paul Hutcheon in the Sunday Herald 23 rd December.
Posted by: Observer on 2:12pm Wed 2 Jan 08
Lord Elder will need to declare an interest here, whatever goes on in the background he will need to be seen as being removed from the process. The electoral commission are subject to the Freedom of Information act. I hope robbie dinwoodie's got lots of time on his hands because I expect he will be making plenty of requests for information. Inccidentally, anyone can do that.
Lord Elder will need to declare an interest here, whatever goes on in the background he will need to be seen as being removed from the process. The electoral commission are subject to the Freedom of Information act. I hope robbie dinwoodie's got lots of time on his hands because I expect he will be making plenty of requests for information. Inccidentally, anyone can do that.
Posted by: Observer on 2:16pm Wed 2 Jan 08
Yes clare I read that too, Paul Hutcheon used the FOI Act as his lever, they said they couldn't release information as it was an ongoing enquiry.
Yes clare I read that too, Paul Hutcheon used the FOI Act as his lever, they said they couldn't release information as it was an ongoing enquiry.
Posted by: Clare, Lanarkshire on 2:20pm Wed 2 Jan 08
"Roseanna Cunningham does a very good job for the Government and her constituents and she has great support throughout the SNP. All parties have internal squabbles and it's to her credit that she is still in their fighting Scotland's corner if she has had personal setbacks to her political career."
Brian, I agree. I always wondered why she seemed to fall from grace tho. She is a very clever, capable lady.
"Roseanna Cunningham does a very good job for the Government and her constituents and she has great support throughout the SNP. All parties have internal squabbles and it's to her credit that she is still in their fighting Scotland's corner if she has had personal setbacks to her political career."
Brian, I agree. I always wondered why she seemed to fall from grace tho. She is a very clever, capable lady.
Posted by: Melanthios on 2:23pm Wed 2 Jan 08
Proud to be a grammar Nazi said, "If you were properly Scottish you'd spell your name correctly"
Yet you decide to spell the following wrongly...dismall
In addition when you write "Scotlands history ", you should put in an apostrophe.
Proud to be a grammar Nazi said, "If you were properly Scottish you'd spell your name correctly"
Yet you decide to spell the following wrongly...dismall
In addition when you write "Scotlands history ", you should put in an apostrophe.
Posted by: Melanthios on 2:27pm Wed 2 Jan 08
More spelling lessons for "Proud to be illiterate"
1 "youv'e" should be you've.
2 "contrubute" should be contribute
3 "don't you L.A." should have a question mark
4 I've told you before it's PUERILE - not purile.
(You started this matey).
More spelling lessons for "Proud to be illiterate"
1 "youv'e" should be you've.
2 "contrubute" should be contribute
3 "don't you L.A." should have a question mark
4 I've told you before it's PUERILE - not purile.
(You started this matey).
Posted by: Clare, Lanarkshire on 2:27pm Wed 2 Jan 08
Observer, whatever happens one would hope that everyone, regardless of political persuasion, will want this whole mess investigated. Surely even Labour supporters can't be hoping Alexander survives this when she has become a liability as a result of it and will forever be a lame duck?
Are Labour supporters on this particular thread actually hoping it will all be buried and be prepared to continue with her at the helm? And if she goes, doesn't the fact that it was one of her own who did this to her prove what a mess the Party is in with its various factions and mini-wars? It is hardly a healthy situation surely?
Observer, whatever happens one would hope that everyone, regardless of political persuasion, will want this whole mess investigated. Surely even Labour supporters can't be hoping Alexander survives this when she has become a liability as a result of it and will forever be a lame duck?
Are Labour supporters on this particular thread actually hoping it will all be buried and be prepared to continue with her at the helm? And if she goes, doesn't the fact that it was one of her own who did this to her prove what a mess the Party is in with its various factions and mini-wars? It is hardly a healthy situation surely?
Posted by: Melanthios on 2:30pm Wed 2 Jan 08
Proud to be nuts
He (?) complains about name-calling then calls somebody "pea-brain."
Pot..kettle...black.
Proud to be nuts
He (?) complains about name-calling then calls somebody "pea-brain."
Pot..kettle...black.
Posted by: Clare, Lanarkshire on 2:51pm Wed 2 Jan 08
"Electoral laws, like all laws need to be simplified and for sake of Scottish politics this particular axe must either fall on Wendy or be removed as soon as possible."
Brian I hear what you say however the whole issue of funding is now causing serious concern, especially when it comes to business people being able to donate and possibly buy favours from Councils and even Governments as a result. A favourite Labour one, that.
Transparency was allegedly the aim and yet we still don't have it as Labour simply got around new Laws (they thought) by encouraging donors to give less than £1000 and thereby avoid being identified.
Money for political Parties is clearly a huge issue I accept but don't the vast amounts being spent by Labour and the Tories prove that it really is just all about hype and publicity for them rather than actually connecting with the people and doing real politics?
If we reject funding by the taxpayer for Parties then I think we might consider a sort of Party "treasury" which would handle funding for all of them including all transactions in and out of the Party coffers. Every donation would be listed with no facility for anonymity. No exceptions. The public would then know that the funding of all Parties was being overseen and managed by impartial people rather than people employed specifically to conceal the truth about where the money is coming from. Parties who sell favours to donors would also be up the creek along with the donors seeking to purchase favours.
The Alexander issues must be addressed under the Law which she broke and which her Party broke. They admitted this. At the same time however we need to address the whole issue of funding properly and clean it up once and for all.
"Electoral laws, like all laws need to be simplified and for sake of Scottish politics this particular axe must either fall on Wendy or be removed as soon as possible."
Brian I hear what you say however the whole issue of funding is now causing serious concern, especially when it comes to business people being able to donate and possibly buy favours from Councils and even Governments as a result. A favourite Labour one, that.
Transparency was allegedly the aim and y
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