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How SNP’s pressure for change just might backfire

For many of its advocates devolution was supposed to strengthen the Union. By showing that the United Kingdom could accommodate the distinctive needs and wishes of Scotland, it was hoped that Scots would be persuaded they could pursue their aspirations and secure political recognition of their distinctive national identity within the framework of the Union. Yet on May 3, 2007, just eight years after the creation of the devolved Scottish Parliament, the Scottish National Party, the principal advocate of Scottish independence, topped the poll and its leader, Alex Salmond, was elected the country's First Minister. It would seem that the most crucial foundation of the Union of all - public support - is now close to collapse.

Does the SNP "victory" last May indicate that the introduction of devolution has served to undermine public support for the Union in Scotland? Over the past decade typically only around three in 10 Scots have said they would prefer Scotland to be independent. The most popular option has consistently been some form of devolution within the framework of the United Kingdom. Moreover, there is not any sign of a trend over time, gradual or otherwise, towards greater support for independence. While there was some indication in 2005 that this might be happening, with support reaching 35%, the independence tide has subsequently ebbed again (our evidence comes primarily from the Scottish Social Attitudes Survey with access to the provisional data from the 2007 survey conducted after the May election).

On the basis of the figures, it seems that a more powerful parliament within the framework of the Union would most likely emerge the winner in any future "multi-option" referendum in which people in Scotland are invited to choose between independence, a more powerful version of devolution and the status quo. It seems there is considerable support for changing the way in which the devolved institutions are financed. In recent years, more than half have consistently agreed with the proposition that "now that Scotland has its own parliament, it should pay for its services out of taxes paid in Scotland". Only one-quarter appear to be opposed. This is despite the fact that government statistics suggest (albeit not uncontroversially) that current levels of public expenditure in Scotland outstrip current tax revenues.

While a clear majority of Scots may want to remain in the Union, and while there is some evidence that they may have become more persuaded of the economic and financial benefits of membership, this does not mean that there is not pressure for change. The Scottish Parliament is widely regarded as weaker than it should be, and as a result there is considerable public support for increasing the powers of the institution, including its financial powers. Evidently, a key challenge now facing the Union is whether it can accommodate this public mood.

The SNP may be committed to making Scotland independent, but its election to office does not seem to have signified growing public discontent with the Union. If anything, in some respects at least, the Union now appears to be regarded in a somewhat more favourable light than it was eight years ago.

This finding is not, in fact, as paradoxical as it might seem. First, it should be remembered that, while the SNP came first in the 2007 election, it still won less than one-third of the vote. Its tally was just 32.9% in the constituency contests and 31% on the list vote. The party was simply the largest minority in that election, rather than anything approaching a majority.

Secondly, while the SNP's share of the vote in the 2007 election might have been some nine to 10 points above the tally the Nationalists achieved in 2003, support for other parties that favoured independence, most notably the Greens and the far left, fell back substantially. Taken together, the increase in support for parties favouring independence was a far more modest three points on both ballots.

Indeed, while fewer people may have backed independence in 2007, those who did were far more likely to vote for the SNP than they were four years previously. In 2003 only just more than half (51%) of those who said they favoured independence voted for the SNP on the regional list vote. In 2007 no less than three-quarters (76%) did so. This change more than compensated for the impact of the apparent decline in support for independence. At the same time, however, the SNP also won an important slice of additional votes among the much larger group of people who supported devolution.

Nearly one-quarter of those who favoured some form of devolution voted for the SNP, up by nine points on 2003.

Given the mood among many who support devolution, the ability of the SNP to secure the support of those who do not support independence should not surprise us. For many, devolution was not providing as powerful a symbol of Scotland's distinctive national identity as they would like to see. However, it appears to have been among this group that the SNP did relatively well; those in favour of devolution but also backing more powers were twice as likely to vote for the SNP (28% did so on the list vote) as those not in favour of more powers (14%).

The SNP has always outpointed other parties in Scotland when people are asked how closely the various parties look after the interests of people in Scotland. For example, in 2007, nearly one-quarter (24%) said the SNP looked after those interests "very closely", while well under one in 10 said the same of any other party. It has thus, perhaps, always had the potential to appeal to those who, while still supportive of the Union, would like the apparent balance of power between Westminster and Holyrood reversed. Meanwhile, now that it has taken office, the SNP minority government has proved willing to state its disagreements with a policy stance being taken by the UK Government in public, in stark contrast to the rather coy approach taken by the previous Labour-Liberal Democrat coalition.

But if in so doing the SNP can persuade people in Scotland that the devolved institutions can be made more effective and that Scotland's voice in the Union is now being heard more loudly, perhaps they might be encouraged to believe that devolution within the Union can deliver - so long, perhaps, as the institutions are invested with a little more autonomy. By causing more friction within the Union, the SNP could ironically help persuade the public that remaining within that Union continues to be worth while.



  • John Curtice is Professor of Politics at Strathclyde University.


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    Posted by: Grassy Knollington on 9:33pm Wed 14 May 08
    Somebody said all the tame Unionists were being brought out this week to try and salvage what's left of Labour.

    Seems to be true, what's coming tomorrow?

    Kirsty Wark ," how my iconic interview with Salmond brought Scotland together."

    Prof. Arthur Bleak Midwinter , "an independent Scotland will lead to
    famine , pestilence and disease."

    Iain MacMillan, "we'll be back to a barter economy with independence unless we lance the boil."

    Michelle Mone, "why I'll definitely be taking my big bra and leaving this time if we go independent, no really."

    Muriel Gray, " Don't even mention independence to me, it's absolutely ghastly, Braveheart, Connery, yadda yadda yadda."

    And so on ad nauseum until we see sense and vote for Labour again?
    Posted by: Curley Bill, the southwest on 9:50pm Wed 14 May 08
    No, the nutty professor isn't far off the mark. The SNP's success in showing how devolution should have worked from the beginning might be a hindrance when it comes to the independence referendum.
    But this does not hide the fact that the SNP are the only party with solely Scottish interests at heart.
    At the next general election only a fool would think the Tories won't win it. And only a fool would vote for anyone other than the SNP.
    Posted by: Observer, Glasgow on 9:53pm Wed 14 May 08
    Is this the tartan shawl effect we have been talking about on the letters page ? It is a concern that if the SNP focus too much on good governance, then the drive to independence could be diminished. What a shame that the letter on the subject by Chris Walker disappeared at the same time that this article appeared !
    Posted by: John Leven, Leven Fife on 10:44pm Wed 14 May 08
    This is one of the biggest loads of one sided crap that I have read in a long time.

    The Prof is very selective in his figures, the 40% and 41% support for independence, in polls, including one for the Herald, have been conveniently forgotten. Whats wrong prof do they not fit your argument.

    The old discredited GERS is also floated in this argument, keep up prof everyone with brains knows with oil at $50 a barrel GERS was a nonsense, at $120 a barrel it is farcical to say Scotland receives more in support than it receives in taxes.

    In another article the well know intrepid labour press release reporter Douglas quotes the bleak Midwinter. This is a sign of how desperate Labour are when they have had to dig him up again.

    Any bets prof on the percentage in favor of independence after the many U turns from UBend Wend.

    Look out for loads more of this rubbish in the future, the unionists are clearly rattled, and it shows.
    Posted by: Clarinda, Tayside on 10:52pm Wed 14 May 08
    Observer - yup, not so much a tartan shawl as a tartan muffler.
    It's somewhat ironic that the better the SNP governance and impact of devolution, bolstered by Scotland receiving the likely sugared saps from cornered Westminster Labour, the more difficult it may be to promote independence.
    Does the SNP need to appoint an Independence Chieftan (not a Tsar!) to act as the public relations officer to sustain an ongoing contrast to devolved and reserved issues promoting the advantage of these same issues were Scotland independent? We need to understand what the parallel world of independence would be like when faced with the referendum. At the very least, in the absence of any rational political opposition at Holyrood, barring the occassional couthy riposte from Miss Goldie, the SNP need their own Devil's Advocate.
    Posted by: ratzo on 11:02pm Wed 14 May 08
    John Curtice posits the notion that the SNP unintentionally establishes a state of political equilibrium. In other words they are the agency of a transition form an unstable state to a stable one.

    The flaw with this is the presupposition that the terrain upon which equilibrium is eventually reached is neutral. But its is not. The continued decline of the UK state (stagflation anyone?), the collapse of British identity, and the inevitable trade-off between Scottish and European sovereignty, means that the ground is itself completely unstable. Perhaps it will be the case that for a transitional period an SNP-ruled devolution parliament may sustain a reasonably settled consensus. But the attachment to the UK & the union was always expedient and is slipping beneath the quicksand of change.
    Posted by: frank mcbride, lusitania on 12:25am Thu 15 May 08
    Everyone should be aware what will be reserved powers.

    Foreign policy: Iraq war (1 000 000 innocents dead), EU (fishing, natural resources, Lisbon Treaty), US/UK Alliance.

    Fiscal policy: monetary policy (MPC).

    National Security: 42 days without charge, machine-coded ID cards.

    Lest we become too comfortable with good governance, never forget the above.

    Do we want to be party to illegal wars? Do we want the use of our natural resources decided by others? Do we want to blindly follow American foreign policy? Do we want American Nuclear missiles 25 miles from our larget city?

    Do we want a fiscal policy (interest rates etc) that is dictated by the vagaries of London's economy?
    Do want an economic policy dependant on Tory/Neo-Tory (NuLab) Govt. in Westminster?

    Do we want to live in a police state?
    Do we want to live in a constant state of fear, especially of our government?

    The above is far more important than any economic argument, and should be argued with equal, if not more, authority.

    FOR A FAIRER, MORE JUST AND MORE PROSPEROUS SCOTLAND - VOTE SNP AND INDEPENDENCE.
    Posted by: Samoyed, Costa del Menie on 1:01am Thu 15 May 08
    The Scottish Social Attitudes ( SSA) survey was launched by the Scottish Centre for Social Research 2 (part of the National Centre for Social Research) in 1999, following the advent of devolution. Based on annual rounds of interviews with 1,500-1,600 people drawn using random probability sampling (based on a stratified, clustered sample) 3, its aims are to facilitate the study of public opinion and inform the development of public policy in Scotland.

    i was thinking of a 50.000 interviews, as is normal in Europe to be named survey, but wuih that sample size is just another poll.

    Curtice has obviously chosen it because it agrees with his "findings" more than others.

    Bullhorn.
    Posted by: rob4i, Scottish Borders on 5:30am Thu 15 May 08
    Curtice said, "By showing that the United Kingdom could accommodate the distinctive needs and wishes of Scotland, it was hoped that Scots would be persuaded they could pursue their aspirations and secure political recognition of their distinctive national identity within the framework of the Union."

    Well, actually this was supposed to have always been the case within the Union since 1707, but as usual, Westminster can't pass up an opportunity to show they are all powerful, or rather the politicians within it.

    This is why the EU Charter deemed that Westminster was governing Scotland illegally, in a quasi-colonial fashion, and forced Westminster to comply with their ruling, under the threat of sanctions, to get their house in order!!

    Hence, the devolution settlement, and NOT as New Labour tries to have us believe, brought in by them, more Unionist lies yet again to the Scottish people, neither Blair or Brown wanted Scotland to have a parliament, no wonder the situation is the way it is, at present.

    Over 3 centuries Westminster has just been using Scotland as a pawn in their political games, showing no respect to what was meant to have been equal signatories to the Union.
    Because of that alone, Scotland deserves to see its demise!!
    Posted by: Mac, Dundee on 9:28am Thu 15 May 08
    Re headline: "How SNP’s pressure for change just might backfire."

    re question: "Does the SNP "victory" last May indicate that the introduction of devolution has served to undermine public support for the Union in Scotland? "

    re figures: "On the basis of the figures, it seems that a more powerful parliament within the framework of the Union would most likely emerge the winner in any future "multi-option" referendum."

    So the evidence does point to change with the establishment of a SNP Government, and a referendum supporting change would weaken the Union with England.

    The only thing backfiring here is a Professor who seemingly cannot profess the truth.
    Posted by: Patrick Kirkwood, West Kilbride on 10:38am Thu 15 May 08
    Curtis is talking primarily about a multi-option referendum, not the straight yes/no choice which the two biggest parties in Scotland: SNP and Labour have now backed.

    He is worth listening to, however, he said before the last election: should Cunningham North go SNP, victory was on for them ...
    Posted by: GML, right here on 10:44am Thu 15 May 08
    I don't think there is any need to criticise Professor Curtice's choice of data. It is fair to say that over the last ten years an average of polls has found about one third of voters in favour if independence 'now', with increased powers (ie fiscal autonomy) for the Scottish Parliament generally the most popular constitutional option. What has been missed out is that many people who express this preference also hold the view that they expect Scotland to become independent eventually. Typically for Scots, many want to ca' canny to make sure everything will be ok, in the face of a lifetime of being told the opposite.

    This explains why 'fear' is the recurring tactic of British unionists. (Remember Douglas Alexander's infamous "The way to win an election is Scotland is to promote fear in the electorate " leaked Labour Party memo? No? They didn't publish it in The Herald for some reason...and Labour made him Secretary of State for Scotland . Truly shameful.)

    My interpetation of the same data is that "independence a bit at a time, making sure it is ok as we go" is the most popular option. Hence the long, slow retreat of British unionism, falling back one trench at a time, and the dire warnings of old-style unionist prophets like Tam Dalyell that devolution would inevitably lead to the break-up of the United Kingdom. It will, and it should. The question is one of timescale.

    The unionists' greatest fear is that circumstances could rapidly precipitate a shift in this crucial section of the electorate from "sometime later" to "now". The prospect of ten years plus of rule by the Old Etonians might be enough...
    Posted by: Shirley Hodge, Glasgow on 10:48am Thu 15 May 08
    "But this does not hide the fact that the SNP are the only party with solely Scottish interests at heart." This quote by a writer identifying himself as Curley Bill tells us that he is unaware the the SNP is really a party of misfits who dream of power but being unable to achieve it on a national basis they created their own party to reel in the other misfits and malcontents in Scotland. The simple fact that the majority of Scots do not want to leave the UK is testimony to the fact that most Scots are not misfits and malcontents but then I already knew that.
    Posted by: Shirley Hodge, Glasgow on 10:48am Thu 15 May 08
    "But this does not hide the fact that the SNP are the only party with solely Scottish interests at heart." This quote by a writer identifying himself as Curley Bill tells us that he is unaware the the SNP is really a party of misfits who dream of power but being unable to achieve it on a national basis they created their own party to reel in the other misfits and malcontents in Scotland. The simple fact that the majority of Scots do not want to leave the UK is testimony to the fact that most Scots are not misfits and malcontents but then I already knew that.
    Posted by: Disgusted Dorothy, Glasgow on 11:07am Thu 15 May 08
    Shirley, I am amazed that anyone can be so sure of any outcome.
    I have yet to hear one , just one , reasonable argument for Scotland to stay in the union.
    There has been as far as I can see , absolutely no benefit.
    My fear is that Scots are too apathetic to read and analyse information , like the McCrone report , like the UN report on child poverty, like the OECD report.
    They will instead ,believe what they read and hear from a very biased media, which does nothing but mis inform .
    Their remit to be neutral, as in the case of the BBC., well and truly ignored.
    Posted by: Gregor Addison, Scotland on 12:51pm Thu 15 May 08
    This might all be true but, then again, it might not. We do not know what the current trend regarding independence is, since we have not had any recent polls. If a poll appears over the next few weeks showing the SNP on an all time high and independence nearing 50%, then does Professor Curtice's argument collapse? Perhaps; perhaps not. Wendy Alexander has done a great deal of harm to her party and may have boosted support for independence. But it is still possible that events could turn that around and support for both the SNP and independence may slip. At the moment, there does seem to be a trend towards increased support for both the SNP and for independence. We shall just have to wait and see. I suspect, however, that the SNP's success in government may not offer the counterbalance that Professor Curtice seems to desire.
    Posted by: GML, right here on 1:37pm Thu 15 May 08
    The logical corollary of Shirley Hodge's ad hominem argument is that the rational approach of those who wish to achieve power was to join the Labour Party, regardless of their political beliefs, if any. But then I already knew that.
    Posted by: Observer, Glasgow on 5:31pm Thu 15 May 08
    ''But it is still possible that events could turn that around and support for both the SNP and independence may slip''

    That is what those of us who have been arguing about the tartan shawl effect have been saying. That in concentrating on good governance and not aiming for an early referendum, and not exploiting Wendy's moment of madness in agreeing to one, the SNP might have made a mistake on two fronts.

    Firstly the tartan shawl may mean that voters increasingly support the SNP as the government, but not independence.

    Secondly, the SNP like any other government are hostage to ''events, dear boy'' so having a policy of demonstrating good government before initiating a referendum could prove costly if the good governance is difficult to deliver, due to the aforesaid ''events''.

    I think the SNP should concentrate primarily on independence and on an early referendum. Every month they delay could prove costly in the long term. it should be concentrating on the issues which are reserved - as demonstrated so ably by Frank McBride - in an effort to get the message through to Scots that devolution is no comfortable half way house where they can sit and have a rest for a few years.
    Posted by: Joe Middleton, Edinburgh, Scotland on 1:21pm Fri 16 May 08
    On the question of people who want more powers for their parliament it might be worth finding out what those powers actually are because some powers (ie over foreign policy, defence and social security) are only available and only guaranteed with independence.
    Posted by: Joe Middleton, Edinburgh on 1:26pm Fri 16 May 08
    Also, the most recent polling on the SNP's preferred question, which will be going on the ballot paper unless the unionists come up with a scheme to geninely increase the powers of the parliament shows support of 41%, to 40% for the union, why are these figures ignored by the herald along with all the other surveys that showed higher support for independence over the years, such as this one by the Daily Telegraph which showed support at 52% on 27/11/2006:

    http://www.telegraph
    .co.uk/news/uknews/1
    535193/Britain-wants
    -UK-break-up,-poll-s
    hows.html
    Posted by: porker, stirling on 5:06pm Fri 16 May 08
    Do people really want to go back to a labour government in Scotland.
    Do people really believe that they put Scotland first at all times.
    I don"t think so.
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